Terrorazer 0 Posted September 19, 2008 My question is... how did you get LT, Randy Moss, Braylon Edwards, Andre Johnson, and Brandon Marshall all in the same draft? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cribdog 0 Posted September 19, 2008 I just ripped off this guy in my league, what do you guys think? This sap traded me Rivers, Hasselback and up and coming DeSean Jackson for the fast-fading Bengals combo of Palmer and Ocho Cinco, and I also got to dump the starting QB from the worst team in the league Pennington! What a bozo...I love my league! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
16 and 33 0 Posted September 19, 2008 My question is... how did you get LT, Randy Moss, Braylon Edwards, Andre Johnson, and Brandon Marshall all in the same draft? Did you try reading the OP? Yaaa boieeee.... Check it out... In my keeper league, where we keep six... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,368 Posted September 19, 2008 Here's one more thing to consider...Rivers will extend his lead over Palmer this weekend, meaning that nearly 20% into the season he'll have put up better #'s 100% of the time. And remember for evaluation of Mad Brad's trade, MB had P. Rivers and did not have Palmer for the first two weeks of this season, so evaluation of this specific trade will begin week 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Milwalkeysbeast 0 Posted September 19, 2008 Sorry the drinking came after the trade... It's called celebrating... HTH MB Drinking to celebrate a fantasy trade is ghey So is initialing every post you put on a website MB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
urmother 0 Posted September 20, 2008 i just made a buy-low trade without a huge amount of risk imo. i gave delhomme and kevin smith for housh in a ppr league. kevin smith is a must start because it's a 3wr 2 rb 2wr/rb start league so he's got more value than in a league with a max of 2rb slots (and more in a ppr), but housh has so much upside still imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BernardPollardFan Posted September 20, 2008 Palmer is certainly a stud talent.. and 85 has some good years left in him from a talent standpoint. It all comes down to team situations. I dunno his contract sitch & NFL trades for franchise QBs aren't likely. Assuming Marvin is toast.. How long until Palmer has a line and running game again? Rivers isn't as talented but he's on the team with the sick Oline and more weapons now. Carson's a stand up guy and River's is a collosal p*nis.. and I own neither in a keeper.. so i'm rooting for you Mad Brad. Colossal (don't use big words if you can't spell them) pen*s? Since when is there a rule that you can trash-talk at every other position but QB? When Chad Johnson does it, it's comedic. When Ray Lewis does it, he's trying to intimidate the opposing players. When Rivers does it, he's male genitalia? Everyone makes the scene out with him and Cutler out to be more than it was. Cutler was the one facing the Chargers bench and yelling obscenities. All Rivers says is "The ball is that way." So tell me, why does nobody talk about Cutler being a "colossal pen*s"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TopGun77 1 Posted September 21, 2008 Chad Ocho Cinco Career Stats more Season Team Receiving Rushing Fumbles G GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost 2008 Cincinnati Bengals 2 2 5 59 11.8 22 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2007 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 93 1,440 15.5 70T 8 6 47 7.8 16 0 2 1 2006 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 87 1,369 15.7 74T 7 6 24 4.0 8 0 1 1 2005 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 97 1,432 14.8 70T 9 5 33 6.6 11 0 1 0 2004 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 95 1,274 13.4 53T 9 4 39 9.8 18 0 1 0 2003 Cincinnati Bengals 16 14 90 1,355 15.1 82T 10 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2002 Cincinnati Bengals 16 14 69 1,166 16.9 72T 5 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2001 Cincinnati Bengals 12 3 28 329 11.8 28 1 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- TOTAL 564 8,424 14.9 82 49 21 143 6.8 18 0 5 2 Carson Palmer Career Stats more Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost 2008 Cincinnati Bengals 2 2 25 51 49.0 228 4.5 0 3 3 17 37.1 3 15 5.0 0 1 0 2007 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 373 575 64.9 4,131 7.2 26 20 17 119 86.7 24 10 0.4 0 5 1 2006 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 324 520 62.3 4,035 7.8 28 13 36 233 93.9 26 37 1.4 0 15 7 2005 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 345 509 67.8 3,836 7.5 32 12 19 105 101.1 34 41 1.2 1 5 2 2004 Cincinnati Bengals 13 13 263 432 60.9 2,897 6.7 18 18 25 178 77.3 18 47 2.6 1 2 2 2003 Cincinnati Bengals 0 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- -- TOTAL 1,330 2,087 63.7 15,127 7.2 104 66 100 652 88.8 105 150 1.4 2 28 12 I agree that the future (i.e. terrible offensive line, no running game, terrible defense) is more important, but let's not forget just how good Palmer and Johnson have been the last few years. Madbrad- you are correct. Just as in the stock market, fantasy football is all about "buy low / sell high." Good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
urmother 0 Posted September 21, 2008 i just made a buy-low trade without a huge amount of risk imo. i gave delhomme and kevin smith for housh in a ppr league. kevin smith is a must start because it's a 3wr 2 rb 2wr/rb start league so he's got more value than in a league with a max of 2rb slots (and more in a ppr), but housh has so much upside still imo. boom! housh did it today so it may be somewhat tougher to pick up cj, but he's a prime player to target imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donut Cops 0 Posted September 23, 2008 Yaaa boieeee....Check it out... In my keeper league, where we keep six... Me and a guy are both 0-2... I heard from another owner his was offering Palmer up for trade... So Bradley mcMAdly steps into the frey and offers him... P. Rivers, M. Hasselsuck, and Deshawn (my boy, who likes to leave the rock at the 1 yard line after a big play) Jackson and I get... Drum roll please... Carson Palmer, Chad (the artist formerly known as ocho cinco) Johnson and Chad Pennington... GOD I LOVE THIS COUNTRY !!!!!! MB You owned him! Stupid rookies! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Brad 0 Posted September 23, 2008 You owned him! Stupid rookies! DC Nice 17th career post... As I stated earlier... Trades can't be evaluated properly in most cases for months or even years... Only a 17th poster dooosh bag drags this out after Rivers had been GIVEN sweet field position all nite and has his main rb dinged and the back up rb hurting as well... Granted Rivers has had a very nice start to the year... And the Jets have LET him continue his nice start giving them the ball 3 times on their side of the field... A week, a month, sometimes not even a year does a trade make... So settle down and go get yourself another donut loser... Cause I would make the same trade today if given the choice... And a month or 2 ago YOU would have made the same trade as well, to try and claim otherwise would just make you a liar... HTH MB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwyjibo 0 Posted September 23, 2008 There is also the concept of Buy High, Sell Higher. By the end of the season you will wish you still had Rivers and DeSean on your team as Cincinnati continues its major suckage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donut Cops 0 Posted September 23, 2008 Nice 17th career post... As I stated earlier... Trades can't be evaluated properly in most cases for months or even years... Only a 17th poster dooosh bag drags this out after Rivers had been GIVEN sweet field position all nite and has his main rb dinged and the back up rb hurting as well... Granted Rivers has had a very nice start to the year... And the Jets have LET him continue his nice start giving them the ball 3 times on their side of the field... A week, a month, sometimes not even a year does a trade make... So settle down and go get yourself another donut loser... Cause I would make the same trade today if given the choice... And a month or 2 ago YOU would have made the same trade as well, to try and claim otherwise would just make you a liar... HTH MB (sigh) Man bites dog. I guess I will hit the 7/11 for a dozen powdered donuts, maybe a glazed cruller or two, and because I plan to leave my deal-a-meal cards at home, a bear claw, too. DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK0001 99 Posted September 23, 2008 So, Mad Brad, you say you haven't won a game yet this year? I find that hard to believe, such a fantasy wizard as yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Brad 0 Posted September 23, 2008 So, Mad Brad, you say you haven't won a game yet this year? I find that hard to believe, such a fantasy wizard as yourself. I am 1 and 2 so far after 3 weeks... I dare say I look really good on "paper" but have had players who are under performing right now... Starting with Randy Moss... (Who I traded Jamal Lewis for pre-week 1 of the 2007 season) I think I did ok there... Also Braylon Edwards... ( I traded Rudi Johnson, Deshaun Foster, and Marc Bulger for Braylon Edwards, Edgerrin James and Darrell Jackson) I'd say I did ok on that one too... Also Andre Johnson... (I got him and McNabb for my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks in 2007... I went 3rd then waited 3 rounds to go again But I survived it...) Also I traded for LT last october... ( I traded Wilie Parker, Larry Fitz, Calvin Johnson, and Javon Walker... I got LT, Brandon Marshall, Rudi, and Deshaun) I'd say I did ok there too... So now my 6 keepers for 2008-09 are at this point... C. Palmer, L. Tomlinson, R. Moss, Braylon, A. Johnson, and Brandon Marshall, with gould/akers as kickers and the Cowboys defense... Chad Johnson, Edgerrin James, Dallas Clark, Pittman and Ray Rice as bench fill ins, and guys like Ryan Torain as potential hit or miss flyers... I'll take that squad all day and I'll see where it takes me... and not a bad re-build in 18 months if you ask me... A fantasy wizard prolly not... But I have been doing this little Hobby since 1989... So I have a little experience at this endeavor... The league were talking about here is 11 years old, all internet based with 12 guys who don't know each other, but 8 owners are from the original group, I found them all at the huddle dot com... Pretty cool hobby we have, even though many "normal people" don't really understand the "rush" we get out of it... LOL MB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK0001 99 Posted September 23, 2008 Just bustin' your balls, MB. I think that trade looks like garbage, but who knows how things pan out. At least you didn't trade LT2 in the redraft league for a drop happy WR and a 3rd tier RB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rozniarek 0 Posted September 23, 2008 What a fool.Jackson is huge so far.Hassellback gets Branch And Engram back along with K. Rob.Ocho is hurt Palmer has no pass protection. You put your team in the hands of the Bengals. Congradulations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BernardPollardFan Posted September 23, 2008 Ha what a laugh. How many of you responding own Philip Rivers? While I think DeSean looks like a solid player for a keeper league and that Chad Johnson is actually a step back thinking long term in a keeper... Palmer will turn it around and in the end be a better QB than Rivers. Not that Palmer will be great this year, but better than Rivers. This is a fact. Philip Rivers... are you guys kidding me? He sucks, always has and always will. Will be an average QB at the end of the year, or any other year, and will never have any significant impact on anyones rosters. I'm having a hard time believing most of the criticism is revolving around him in this thread. One or two good games, or bad games, a fantasy season does not make. lol how much did Rivers suck tonight, assclown? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antiramie 50 Posted September 23, 2008 Sell High + Buy Low = Screw Job Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smetana34 0 Posted September 23, 2008 Chad Ocho Cinco Career Stats more Season Team Receiving Rushing Fumbles G GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost 2008 Cincinnati Bengals 2 2 5 59 11.8 22 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2007 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 93 1,440 15.5 70T 8 6 47 7.8 16 0 2 1 2006 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 87 1,369 15.7 74T 7 6 24 4.0 8 0 1 1 2005 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 97 1,432 14.8 70T 9 5 33 6.6 11 0 1 0 2004 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 95 1,274 13.4 53T 9 4 39 9.8 18 0 1 0 2003 Cincinnati Bengals 16 14 90 1,355 15.1 82T 10 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2002 Cincinnati Bengals 16 14 69 1,166 16.9 72T 5 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2001 Cincinnati Bengals 12 3 28 329 11.8 28 1 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- TOTAL 564 8,424 14.9 82 49 21 143 6.8 18 0 5 2 85's numbers are very skewed. His season totals look good, but dig a little deeper and look at the game-by-game stats. He explodes two or three weeks of the season and is non-existent the rest of the season. Hes not all hes cracked up to be. I dont get why everyones on his jock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smetana34 0 Posted September 23, 2008 Nice 17th career post... As I stated earlier... Trades can't be evaluated properly in most cases for months or even years... Only a 17th poster dooosh bag drags this out after Rivers had been GIVEN sweet field position all nite and has his main rb dinged and the back up rb hurting as well... Granted Rivers has had a very nice start to the year... And the Jets have LET him continue his nice start giving them the ball 3 times on their side of the field... A week, a month, sometimes not even a year does a trade make... So settle down and go get yourself another donut loser... Cause I would make the same trade today if given the choice... And a month or 2 ago YOU would have made the same trade as well, to try and claim otherwise would just make you a liar... HTH MB So what your saying is...winning next year is more important then this year. Interesting. This isnt the real NFL here. You play to win now in FF. The guys looking to next year are the losers in the league. I do agree, however, that your team is severly underachieving. Call me a liar then. Everybody knew going in that Cinncinati was gonna be bad. They dont have much of a run game, no defense, and 85 didnt wanna be there and has a bad shoulder. Hes not that good in the first place. That there alone shoulda been warning enough to stay away from Cinncinati Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rerun 0 Posted September 23, 2008 Sorry the drinking came after the trade... It's called celebrating... HTH MB should have been to dull the pain Pennington? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Brad 0 Posted September 23, 2008 should have been to dull the painPennington? Actually I dropped Pennington, and went out and got Joe Flacco and Brady Quinn... I'll be just fine, as will the Bengal offense... Phillip Rivers is not going to toss 3 scores every week, and from a keeper perspective the trade made sense, despite how the first 3 weeks played out... Plain and simple... Put it this way... Fanball's "keeper league" cheat sheet, which ranks players at each position, gives some weight to age as well, and provides auction values for each player has it this way... qb rank: 5th C. Palmer $13 10th Rivers $5 and 11th Hasslebeck $5 23rd Quinn $1 27th Flacco $1 wr rank: 12th C. Johnson $13 60th DeSean Jackson $1 So according to their july/august values from fanball: I traded $11 in players and received $27 in return... Bad trade ??? Maybe, maybe not I'm banking it's not... And the first 3 weeks of a season do not a season make, but I've said that already... At the end of this year, or even the end of next year, I will have formed my opinion of the trade... Regardless of what all of you speculate of the deal, I made the deal, and would again... Down the road we'll see how it pans out... Many of you can say I got the bad end of the deal... The reality is that only time will tell, but I had the guts to roll the dice and see what happends !!! MB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smetana34 0 Posted September 23, 2008 Dipsh*t, If you couldnt handle the critisicm of everybody else, why would you put this up? The trade absolutly blows for you, you blew it. You've stated youd blow it again if given the chance. Congrats. In no way shape or form have you upgraded your team. You took a hit by going from Rivers to Palmer, Hasslebeck to Pennington, and at this point, DeShaun is better then Johnson. 85 will rarely start for you, and when he does, have fun with 4 catches for 37 yards. You made a dumb move. Say hello to 1-3 for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enis_44 0 Posted September 23, 2008 This thread has the chance to become a board classic. Every time someone gets ripped off they can come here to brag about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagles Green 34 Posted September 23, 2008 Actually I dropped Pennington, and went out and got Joe Flacco and Brady Quinn... I'll be just fine, as will the Bengal offense... Phillip Rivers is not going to toss 3 scores every week, and from a keeper perspective the trade made sense, despite how the first 3 weeks played out... Plain and simple... Put it this way... Fanball's "keeper league" cheat sheet, which ranks players at each position, gives some weight to age as well, and provides auction values for each player has it this way... qb rank: 5th C. Palmer $13 10th Rivers $5 and 11th Hasslebeck $5 23rd Quinn $1 27th Flacco $1 wr rank: 12th C. Johnson $13 60th DeSean Jackson $1 So according to their july/august values from fanball: I traded $11 in players and received $27 in return... Bad trade ??? Maybe, maybe not I'm banking it's not... And the first 3 weeks of a season do not a season make, but I've said that already... At the end of this year, or even the end of next year, I will have formed my opinion of the trade... Regardless of what all of you speculate of the deal, I made the deal, and would again... Down the road we'll see how it pans out... Many of you can say I got the bad end of the deal... The reality is that only time will tell, but I had the guts to roll the dice and see what happends !!! MB Did you really quote July/august auction values to support your argument? What does that have to do with anything? Let me ask you this, what was Tom Brady's value in July? Why didn't you trade for him? Now I know why Brad is Mad............He sucks at fantasy football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted January 7, 2009 Brad is mad his trades are bad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Garcia 8 Posted January 7, 2009 Brad is madhis trades are bad! This thread is fun to read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enis_44 0 Posted January 7, 2009 No debate at the end of the year. MB got his azz handed to him then came here to brag about it. What a tool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted January 7, 2009 i'm glad you guys bumped this. that was a great trade MB Made much better by the fact that you dropped Pennington for Quinn??? (and Flacco, but still). How'd that OchoStinko work out? You guys are right, this thread could become a classic for the "i got bent over without lube" but still think I won! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyness 0 Posted January 8, 2009 The simple fact is... most trades can't be measured in the 1st 48 hours... Try more like 10 weeks to 2 years... A month ago EVERY ONE OF YOU WOULD HAVE MADE THAT TRADE !!!! Now after 2 weeks into a season... I got taken ??? We'll talk in 3 months from now, or a year from now... Hey, it's only January. You can't evaluate how good or bad this trade is after 16 weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyness 0 Posted January 8, 2009 True. My point is simply that he made a great trade and the bashing is not deserved and that people are just way off in their evaluation of this trade. I might have to add this to my sig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted January 8, 2009 85's year was a fluke and Palmer should be back next season that said whoever got the Rivers end was happy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Brad 0 Posted January 8, 2009 OK OK... Thanks for bringing this back to the front page... D!cks !!! LOL And 16 weeks later, yes I got the bad end of the deal... I could have used Rivers this season as he was on fire and while DeJax didn't do much this year, either did a hurt C. Palmer or a disappointing Ocho stinko... Luckily for me, (after getting bashed here for the deal)... I picked up M.Cassel off waivers just in case, and plugged him in there, and I got Gerrard as an emergency back up... And then I traded Ocho Stinko and Ryan Torrian... Getting S.Slaton and A. Bryant ... I was the 5th seed in the playoffs, and made it to the SB, and despite M. Cassels's huge day on week 16... I lost the big game and won 75 instead of 175... Too bad... Luckily, I look to keep as my 6 guys... LT, Slaton, Andre Johnson, R. Moss, B. Marshall, B. Edwards, with C. Palmer or M. Cassell as an option or as trade bait in the spring... So I'll survive the bad trade of 2008... Special thanks to Jarvis @SSnight for helping me re-live the pain of this deal, 4 months later... LOL MB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enis_44 0 Posted January 8, 2009 OK OK... Thanks for bringing this back to the front page... D!cks !!! LOL And 16 weeks later, yes I got the bad end of the deal... I could have used Rivers this season as he was on fire and while DeJax didn't do much this year, either did a hurt C. Palmer or a disappointing Ocho stinko... Luckily for me, (after getting bashed here for the deal)... I picked up M.Cassel off waivers just in case, and plugged him in there, and I got Gerrard as an emergency back up... And then I traded Ocho Stinko and Ryan Torrian... Getting S.Slaton and A. Bryant ... I was the 5th seed in the playoffs, and made it to the SB, and despite M. Cassels's huge day on week 16... I lost the big game and won 75 instead of 175... Too bad... Luckily, I look to keep as my 6 guys... LT, Slaton, Andre Johnson, R. Moss, B. Marshall, B. Edwards, with C. Palmer or M. Cassell as an option or as trade bait in the spring... So I'll survive the bad trade of 2008... Special thanks to Jarvis @SSnight for helping me re-live the pain of this deal, 4 months later... LOL MB Wow, you keep taking your medicine like a champ like this and we're gonna change your name to even_tempered_Brad really though, nice job on Cassel. The waiver wire IS the key when it's all said and done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted January 8, 2009 Typical response. "yeah, well I did this and this and this and won my league anyway and my 'other' trades made me super awesome" mb lacking in the self-esteem dept Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Brad 0 Posted January 8, 2009 Wow, you keep taking your medicine like a champ like this and we're gonna change your name to even_tempered_Brad really though, nice job on Cassel. The waiver wire IS the key when it's all said and done. Yea the waiver wire is key... I think back to how many times after a draft you feel like you have all the bases covered, and then by years end you have made 5-10 waiver moves or more sometimes... It happens every year in one of my 6 leagues... Although 4 of them are dynasty leagues now, as I only do one total re-draft a year now a days...LOL I really got lucky on Cassel, someone else picked him up, then after a bad week dropped him, I figured I might need him and acted quickly grabbing him, thinking he just had an "off week" that week, and I knew he'd be the guy iat QB in NE all year good or bad, in the end he was good... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Brad 0 Posted January 8, 2009 Typical response. "yeah, well I did this and this and this and won my league anyway and my 'other' trades made me super awesome" mb lacking in the self-esteem dept Hey Jarvis, Who sh!t in your weaties today D!ckhead... If you could read you'd see I didn't win it all, and I simply filled everyone in on the rest of my year... Glad to see you care so much as... Your the douche bag to bring it back to the front page of this board, 4 months later... Have a nice day, MB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted January 8, 2009 Hey Jarvis, Who sh!t in your weaties today D!ckhead... If you could read you'd see I didn't win it all, and I simply filled everyone in on the rest of my year... Glad to see you care so much as... Your the douche bag to bring it back to the front page of this board, 4 months later... Have a nice day, MB Good stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
