Am I crazy or is everyone in the world picking Philly over Minny?

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

Well since Wash only managed 10 points in that last game against the Eagles so I don't know how that comparison helps show how Minny "should" win with a lesser defense than Wash.

 

But yes if Minny gets consistent pressure on McNabb he can get rattled and start throwing balls at his guys feet and to the other team. Peterson has a big day and I could see Minny winning.

 

Problem is the Philly D is even a little better than them at getting pressure and can also cover a whole lot better. Even with his faults McNabb is still much, much better than Tavaris and I just think it's much more likely he gives away the game than McNabb.

Philly has the defensive personnel to play man-to-man on the outside and keep eight in the box against Peterson.

 

One thing that does scare me about the Eagle defense is the cut-back. They are prone to this. Portis kills them with this, and Portis is not as dangerous, IMO, as Peterson in this aspect.

 

MLB Stewart Bradley and S Quinton Mickael will be the keys to the defensive effort on Sunday. However, the real difference makers will be Chris Gocong and Trent Cole/Juqua Parker, because they will have to squeeze backside pursuit and will have to keep from getting too deep in their rush lanes.

 

Peterson will kill any defense that doesn't space themselves properly. That is the key to containing the big play.

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

1 reason - The Vikings are 1-dimensional. Stop AP, Stop the Vikings. Not to mention that you conveniently gloss-over or ignore the realities regarding both teams... or just flat-out have it wrong.

 

- The Eagles beat the sh!t out of Rothlisberger when we played Pittsburgh. They weren't "without him."

 

- The Eagles beat-up on the Giants knocking Jacobs out of the game. They weren't "without him."

 

- The Vikings beat a SUCKY Saints team. A Packers team without a defense to speak of. A Jags team with a patchwork offensive line (at best) having lost almost their entire starting offensive line early in the season (if not earlier), the fraud of an Arizona team, DETROIT twice.

 

The question really boils down to which Eagles team is going to show up and with what game plan. If Reid goes back to a 70/30 pass-run ratio, they're doomed. If they put in a creative offensive scheme like they did against Dallas and the Giants that involves much more balance... well, then it's on the defense to stop Peterson.

[Stewburtx8 67]

Sportsbooks rarely see equal action on a game. More typically, people are on one side or another 60-75% The offshore books are much more relevant than Vegas anyway. There are times when the books take a stand and decide to back one team over another. They will make the line very tempting for one side because they want to sucker you into a trap game, and even with overflowing action on one side, will not move the line. Anyway, that's enough about that...

 

I believe the stat is that a home dog playoff team is 11-1 ATS the last 12 times it happened. I'm not sure if they won straight up every time of those 11 situations, but the home dogs typically perform very well recently in the playoffs. Good news for Minnesota.

 

 

Books do NOT set trap lines to sucker you in to betting one side. Their goal is equal action. Equal action and they make money. They don't need to take any stands. 60-75% of PEOPLE means absolutely nothing to the books. Its all about TOTAL money bet. If 2000 people bet $100 on a game but then 1 person bets $200,000 on the game, then the money is equal but a overwhelming percentage of people are on one side. As far as the book is concerned, they win the $20,000 vig and could care less how many people are on one side. The percentages are absolutely useless. It's about money bet, and that information is not available.

 

Your home dog stat is very true. Normally I'd be on Minnesota, but im a huge Eagles fan so I'll just sit back and watch.

[edjr 5,600]

McNafro + Fatman + playoffs + dome - ADP = fayle

[phillybear 365]

Books do NOT set trap lines to sucker you in to betting one side. Their goal is equal action. Equal action and they make money. They don't need to take any stands. 60-75% of PEOPLE means absolutely nothing to the books. Its all about TOTAL money bet. If 2000 people bet $100 on a game but then 1 person bets $200,000 on the game, then the money is equal but a overwhelming percentage of people are on one side. As far as the book is concerned, they win the $20,000 vig and could care less how many people are on one side. The percentages are absolutely useless. It's about money bet, and that information is not available.

 

I'm talking about total money. % of bets is a good indicator too. But you can get money % wagered too, if you go to the right place. You hardly ever see equal action on a game. I'm not just talking from a bookie perspective, and how other books are told to hold a line to sucker in more action on one side. Sportsbooks do it too. Why do so many sports book managers talk about how badly they needed to win this side or that side to make it a good weekend, because 90% of the money was on one side or another. There is no equal action, sit back, and collect the vig. That is garbage. There is no truth behind it. Propaganda to convince the uninformed betting public that there is nothing shady going on. Yes, 60-75% of money wagered on one side or total is standard procedure.

[holamolla 0]

Washington's defense is MUCH better against the pass, which counters Philly's WCO style. Campbell > Jackson IMO as well. Plus that's a nasty division game. Minny is poorly coached and doesn't have the skill players outside of ADP that Skins have.

actually far from it, people still think this is 06 or 07 for the vikes.

[Stewburtx8 67]

I'm talking about total money. % of bets is a good indicator too. But you can get money % wagered too, if you go to the right place. You hardly ever see equal action on a game. I'm not just talking from a bookie perspective, and how other books are told to hold a line to sucker in more action on one side. Sportsbooks do it too. Why do so many sports book managers talk about how badly they needed to win this side or that side to make it a good weekend, because 90% of the money was on one side or another. There is no equal action, sit back, and collect the vig. That is garbage. There is no truth behind it. Propaganda to convince the uninformed betting public that there is nothing shady going on. Yes, 60-75% of money wagered on one side or total is standard procedure.

 

 

I'm mainly talking overall perspective..their goal is to create equal action or close to it. Obviously it's not always possible, but that is the goal. The times books may take a stand is when the line is sitting on a key number, but that is only because they don't want to open themselves up to being middled. A good example was the Philly vs New England Super Bowl where some books had the line go from 6.5 to 7 to 7.5 and back again. That was a very bad situation for them. But I do not believe that books set trap lines or want to take a ton of action on one side if they can avoid it, that is not what they are in business for. I also do not believe you can find any type of ACCURATE information on total money bet. There are sites that claim they have this information but it comes from less than reputable online sportsbooks. The big online books, and especially Vegas sportsbooks, do not release this type of information. Just my opinion based on reading a lot of information on the subject as I find it VERY interesting.

[listen2me 23 1,552]

The Eagles are such an up and down team. I am not picking the Eagles to get to the SB because they cannot string that many good games together. I am picking them over the Vikings, because I don't think there down week is this week. In addition, the Vikings blow. I would pick any team in the playoffs over them. When the QB is Tavaris Jackson, I would never bet that team.

 

Tavaris Jackson is the problem. If they had anyone decent, they could be a very solid team. But they do have a chance, because Philly can lay an egg at any time.

[listen2me 23 1,552]

I'm mainly talking overall perspective..their goal is to create equal action or close to it. Obviously it's not always possible, but that is the goal. The times books may take a stand is when the line is sitting on a key number, but that is only because they don't want to open themselves up to being middled. A good example was the Philly vs New England Super Bowl where some books had the line go from 6.5 to 7 to 7.5 and back again. That was a very bad situation for them. But I do not believe that books set trap lines or want to take a ton of action on one side if they can avoid it, that is not what they are in business for. I also do not believe you can find any type of ACCURATE information on total money bet. There are sites that claim they have this information but it comes from less than reputable online sportsbooks. The big online books, and especially Vegas sportsbooks, do not release this type of information. Just my opinion based on reading a lot of information on the subject as I find it VERY interesting.

 

How do you explain reverse line movement then? Where one side is being pounded yet the line moves in the publics favor anyway?

[xenophobe 1]

It should be an interesting game. I think Minn is going to have to get a huge game out of AP if they are going to win it.

[NewbieJr 540]

The Eagles are such an up and down team. I am not picking the Eagles to get to the SB because they cannot string that many good games together. I am picking them over the Vikings, because I don't think there down week is this week. In addition, the Vikings blow. I would pick any team in the playoffs over them. When the QB is Tavaris Jackson, I would never bet that team.

 

Tavaris Jackson is the problem. If they had anyone decent, they could be a very solid team. But they do have a chance, because Philly can lay an egg at any time.

This is exactly the reason that you don't hear any Eagle fans saying that they're going to slaughter Minnesota or win this one easily.

 

The people making that claim are neutral fans or fans of other teams.

 

Philly fans have been conditioned (especially this year) to expect the occasional game where they forget how to call plays, make throws, and make catches. As I stated earlier, these games tend to come immediately after a game where they look like they could kill anyone.

[phillybear 365]

I'm mainly talking overall perspective..their goal is to create equal action or close to it. Obviously it's not always possible, but that is the goal. The times books may take a stand is when the line is sitting on a key number, but that is only because they don't want to open themselves up to being middled. A good example was the Philly vs New England Super Bowl where some books had the line go from 6.5 to 7 to 7.5 and back again. That was a very bad situation for them. But I do not believe that books set trap lines or want to take a ton of action on one side if they can avoid it, that is not what they are in business for. I also do not believe you can find any type of ACCURATE information on total money bet. There are sites that claim they have this information but it comes from less than reputable online sportsbooks. The big online books, and especially Vegas sportsbooks, do not release this type of information. Just my opinion based on reading a lot of information on the subject as I find it VERY interesting.

 

No worries. I'm just stating what I know about the business. Been around it a long time, talked to a lot of people, acquired a lot of knowledge. We can disagree on some stuff. Sure, the books would like equal action on the game; less hassle for them, pure profit. But it rarely happens. When the books don't want to move the line off a key number, they adjust the juice instead. But they do set traps. Reverse line movements for example.

 

One thing I did want to say is that Vegas is no longer what drives the business. They take in a small fraction of what the offshores take in. And Vegas has a max of how much you can bet on a game. Less rules with the offshores. If the offshores are feeding misinformation to places of where the action and money is going on a game, so be it. But they drive the industry nowadays. Of course, this does include all the illegal bookmaking, but that is not information that is going to be disclosed anyway.

[listen2me 23 1,552]

This is exactly the reason that you don't hear any Eagle fans saying that they're going to slaughter Minnesota or win this one easily.

 

The people making that claim are neutral fans or fans of other teams.

 

Philly fans have been conditioned (especially this year) to expect the occasional game where they forget how to call plays, make throws, and make catches. As I stated earlier, these games tend to come immediately after a game where they look like they could kill anyone.

 

I just think it is a bad matchup for the Vikings as well. A bad QB vs Jim Johnson and his blitzes isn't good. If the Eagles can key on AP and slow him down a little they win easy. 3rd and long, Jackson has no shot. I also think DeSean Jackson will have a big day.

 

It shouldn't be a total blowout, since it is in Minnesota, but I just can't picture Tavaris Jackson winning a playoff game at this stage of his career. AP will need to have more than a couple LONG runs.

[Milwalkeysbeast 0]

I was being sarcastic in the noteworthiness of the lions wins."I wont mention the Lions wins as they dont even count."

Also the One dimesional Offense that you talk of could be used to describe the Eagles just as easily. Lets look at the league rankings shall we?

 

Eagles 6th in Passing 22nd in Rushing

Vikings 25th in Passing 5th in Rushing

 

Looks even to me?

 

 

They BARELY beat the Lions both times. Tavaras Jackson will be tested by Jim Johnson and a defense playing the best it has in years.

[NewbieJr 540]

I just think it is a bad matchup for the Eagles as well. A bad QB vs Jim Johnson and his blitzes isn't good. If the Eagles can key on AP and slow him down a little they win easy. 3rd and long, Jackson has no shot. I also think DeSean Jackson will have a big day.

 

It shouldn't be a total blowout, since it is in Minnesota, but I just can't picture Tavaris Jackson winning a playoff game at this stage of his career. AP will need to have more than a couple LONG runs.

Minnesota has to play very well early. If they do, they'll have the dome-crowd staying very loud and it will create a lot of energy. They will also be able to keep trying Peterson. As we've all seen, it doesn't matter if ADP had 12 carries for 27 yards, he can go 80 yards at any point. Ohilly has shown that they go 99% pass if they get behind. It never seems to work out well for them.

 

If Philly jumps out and takes the crowd out of it, and more-importantly, takes Minnesota's ground game out of it, it could get ugly. Tavares Jackson can be effective at times because of ADP's threat. Take that away and there's no way Jackson can take the team on his shoulders and bring them back.

[Stewburtx8 67]

How do you explain reverse line movement then? Where one side is being pounded yet the line moves in the publics favor anyway?

 

How do you know one side is being pounded? Just cuz Wagerline or Sportsinsights says 75% of people are on one team, this does not in any way tell you how much money is being bet. 300 people could bet $50 on a game and then 100 people could bet $200 on a game. The percentages would say 75% of the people are on so and so. BUT in terms of money bet, their would be $15000 on that side but $20000 on the other side, which could cause a half point move the other way. Everyone always wants to say the public is on this, the public is on that, but really the % of PEOPLE means nothing to the books. Not to mention if people are looking at wagerline, no one is actually betting any money there.

[listen2me 23 1,552]

How do you know one side is being pounded? Just cuz Wagerline or Sportsinsights says 75% of people are on one team, this does not in any way tell you how much money is being bet. 300 people could bet $50 on a game and then 100 people could bet $200 on a game. The percentages would say 75% of the people are on so and so. BUT in terms of money bet, their would be $15000 on that side but $20000 on the other side, which could cause a half point move the other way. Everyone always wants to say the public is on this, the public is on that, but really the % of PEOPLE means nothing to the books. Not to mention if people are looking at wagerline, no one is actually betting any money there.

When a game is 75% to 25% there would have to be a lot of HUGE bets on the 25% side. Take a minute and think of how many bets a game gets...to make it 75%-25% that is a lot of extra bets on 1 side, I'm betting the 75% side is getting its fair share of big bets too.

 

 

When the game is torn in that kind or ratio, it is almost impossible that the sides are close to even money.

[phillybear 365]

I once fixed a local college basketball game. Made some nice coin off it.

 

Believe me, shady things happen.

[dmleonard 0]

I just think it is a bad matchup for the Vikings as well. A bad QB vs Jim Johnson and his blitzes isn't good. If the Eagles can key on AP and slow him down a little they win easy. 3rd and long, Jackson has no shot. I also think DeSean Jackson will have a big day.

 

It shouldn't be a total blowout, since it is in Minnesota, but I just can't picture Tavaris Jackson winning a playoff game at this stage of his career. AP will need to have more than a couple LONG runs.

 

 

I'm from MN and this is what scares me the most. Philly is arguably the best team in the nfl when it comes to varying their blitz packages and disguising their blitzes That said, the best way to counter that is with a strong running game and a qb who can make plays with their feet, which MN has. If Jackson can get away from the blitz and buy a couple seconds, a play will be available.

 

I think it will boil down to how well TJack deals with it. If he doesn't end up "lost" with it and MN can keep Tjack and AD from turning the ball over, they have a good shot at winning. However if Jackson gets flustered and just all out confused with all the blitzes, I don't see a good day from MN.

[Stewburtx8 67]

No worries. I'm just stating what I know about the business. Been around it a long time, talked to a lot of people, acquired a lot of knowledge. We can disagree on some stuff. Sure, the books would like equal action on the game; less hassle for them, pure profit. But it rarely happens. When the books don't want to move the line off a key number, they adjust the juice instead. But they do set traps. Reverse line movements for example.

 

One thing I did want to say is that Vegas is no longer what drives the business. They take in a small fraction of what the offshores take in. And Vegas has a max of how much you can bet on a game. Less rules with the offshores. If the offshores are feeding misinformation to places of where the action and money is going on a game, so be it. But they drive the industry nowadays. Of course, this does include all the illegal bookmaking, but that is not information that is going to be disclosed anyway.

 

 

I don't believe in traps or reverse line movement, but we can agree to disagree on that.

 

I'll definitely agree with that. Obviously Vegas at this point is such a small percentage of the total bets being placed across the world on a particular event. That's the only problem with the offshores though, there are less rules, and they are hardly sanctioned. Not exactly trustworthy. And it's become more difficult in the United States to set up accounts and make easy money transfers to and from these online books. It's just become a hassle in my opinion, and has probably increased the illegal betting A LOT.

[Stewburtx8 67]

When a game is 75% to 25% there would have to be a lot of HUGE bets on the 25% side. Take a minute and think of how many bets a game gets...to make it 75%-25% that is a lot of extra bets on 1 side, I'm betting the 75% side is getting its fair share of big bets too.

When the game is torn in that kind or ratio, it is almost impossible that the sides are close to even money.

 

 

One huge bet by a professional can cover thousands of bets by college kids betting a couple bucks a game. Im just sayin. But im done talking about this and pretending I know more than I do about the industry. Just something that is very interesting to me. Lets get back to the Eagles beating the Vikings.

[listen2me 23 1,552]

I don't believe in traps or reverse line movement, but we can agree to disagree on that.

 

I'll definitely agree with that. Obviously Vegas at this point is such a small percentage of the total bets being placed across the world on a particular event. That's the only problem with the offshores though, there are less rules, and they are hardly sanctioned. Not exactly trustworthy. And it's become more difficult in the United States to set up accounts and make easy money transfers to and from these online books. It's just become a hassle in my opinion, and has probably increased the illegal betting A LOT.

 

Books are there to make money. I think it would be ignorant to think they don't try and make the most money they can. And one way to do that is manipulate the line, and the betting. The whole world of gambling is corrupt.

 

But yea Philly over MInny, Jackson blows.

[Mephisto 15]

Trust me, as an Eagles fan, I'm already having bad dreams about McNabb fumbling on the first drive inside their own 20 and giving the Vikings a quick score.

 

I don't think it's an easy game by any stretch.

[Tricky Williams 0]

Thanks for great input and discussion. I started this thread because I wanted to get some good analysis for the game and the media seemed to give a few sentences backing the Eagles and moving onto the next game. I will be excited to see where this thread goes Sunday Night/Monday morning!

[Polish Rifle 0]

Also Philly matches well with Washington (suspect qb and a one dimensional O) and they got smoked two weeks ago. What changes this week?

 

"SMOKED"? What game were YOU watching? It was 10-3. I wouldn't call that "smoked",

or are you just talking about what you do all day long?

[NewbieJr 540]

"SMOKED"? What game were YOU watching? It was 10-3. I wouldn't call that "smoked",

or are you just talking about what you do all day long?

10-3 and a perfect pass bounced off Desean Jackson's should pads in teh endzone in the fourth quarter.

 

If by 'smoked', he means, beaten by an inferior team, than I'd certainly agree with that. As far as the game goes, in the fourth quarter, the Eagles were moving the ball and Washington was holding on for dear life.

[CornKobb 48]

weather obviously wont be a factor......i will take mcnabb over Tarvarious.

 

bottom line......Philly 27 Minny13.

[BLS 313]

Washington's defense is MUCH better against the pass, which counters Philly's WCO style. Campbell > Jackson IMO as well. Plus that's a nasty division game. Minny is poorly coached and doesn't have the skill players outside of ADP that Skins have.

 

 

You have got to be SH!TTING ME?

 

all credibility lost.

 

dolt.

[49ER MAN 0]

Can someone please explain to me why the entire world has basically decided that Philly is going to crush Minny in the first round? Hear me out on this.

 

1. Philly blew out a Dallas team that had clearly quit and was overated to begin with at home. Good win for the Eagles but it seems that the media is giving them too much credit for beating a team with the wheels flying off already.

 

2. Philly looked awful against a Washington team that was already out of it the week before on the road.

 

3. Philly freaking tied Cincy with Ryan Fitzpatrick at the helm earlier in the year.

 

So explain the logic to me that every media and NFL expert has when they all say that Tavaris Jackson is so overmatched against the Philly D at home.

If that is true are we saying the Tavaris Jackson is worse than Ryan Fitzpatrick? or Jason Campbell?

 

If you compare Cincy and Washington to Minny, wouldnt you agree that Minny has better run game then both, a better D than both. Yet no one mentions this.

 

4. Look at the wins for both teams throughout the year. Philly beat Dallas twice, a Pit team without Rothlisberger at home, The entire NFC West (OOHH IMPRESSIVE), The Giants with out Jacobs in a game where the Giants had almost locked up everything (there most impressive win.) and F'ing Clevland late in the year.

 

On the other hand the Vikings beat the Panthers, Saints, Bears, Giants (washes out Philly's win), Packers, Jags, Arizona at AZ (Washes out Philly again), and a hot Houston team. I wont mention the Lions wins as they dont even count. Not to mention they handed wins back to the Colts and Falcons and Packers late in the 4th quater.

 

5. Andy Reid and Brad Childress are both horrible coaches so that washes out too. It's not like Bill Belicheck is coaching the Eagles.

 

6. Not two weeks ago Mcnabb was being traded in the offseason and Reid was being fired. What gives? He completes 50% of his passes and 175 yards in the Dallas game. That game was a blow out because of Dallas turnovers. Not because he was amazing.

 

I am not saying by any means the Vikings are going to destroy the Eagles, I just have a hard time beliving that the Eagles are such overwhelming favorites becasue of one game.

 

Please prove me wrong..

 

I totally agree with you on this. The Eagles have played poorly on the road, scoring only 3 points at Washington not to mention playing to a tie at Cincinnati. Yes, they have played well lately but their run ends in Minnesota and I believe Tarvais Jackson will outplay McNabb. My prediction: Vikes 20 Eagles 13

[phan420 0]

Can someone please explain to me why the entire world has basically decided that Philly is going to crush Minny in the first round? Hear me out on this.

 

I am not saying by any means the Vikings are going to destroy the Eagles, I just have a hard time beliving that the Eagles are such overwhelming favorites becasue of one game.

 

Please prove me wrong..

Still trying to figure out how a 3pt favorite is "overwhelming"?

[NewbieJr 540]

Still trying to figure out how a 3pt favorite is "overwhelming"?

That's what I'd like to know. I keep hearing people say that they can't figure out why everyone thinks Philly is going to kill Minnesota, but I have yet to see anyone actually say that Philly is going to kill Minnesota.

 

I think it's that Viking fans/Eagle-haters want the Vikes to be big underdogs so that they can seem like sympathetic characters (everyone loves an underdog, right?).

 

Also, if Philly loses, they can all say Philly sucks and if Philly 'only' wins by 1-7 points, they can say "The Eagles can only beat Minnesota by 3. They must suck". It happened in teh dallas game. I didn't see one poster say that Dallas sucked and that Philly should have no problem, but as soon as Philly won 44-6, the Cowboys were suddenly a terribkle, undisciplined team and the win wasn't all that impressive.

 

 

Anyway, please find a link to someone saying the Eagles are going to kill the Vikings. I sure as hell never said it and I doubt that any other Eagle fans are saying it, either. We've seen the rollercoaster all season long. We never know what team we're getting.

[xenophobe 1]

The case for Philly is far stronger. Statistically they are superior to Minn on both sides of the ball. They are coming in as the hotter team. They have the edge at QB, a top knotch coaching staff, and a veteran team with tons of playoff experience. They've played in bigger games, and have shown they are capable of winning meaningful games on the road.

 

If Philly plays their A game, the Vikings have no shot. None.

 

But what makes this an interesting game is the inconsistency in this Philly team, and it's not just this season. The McNabb/Reid combo have been somewhat inconsistent since reaching the SB in the 2004. They often look like one of the league's elite, but have suffered from far too many let downs in games you would expect them to win... the most recent taking place just two weeks ago.

 

So I guess the question here is, which Eagle team will show up this weekend? I guess we'll see.

[NewbieJr 540]

The case for Philly is far stronger. Statistically they are superior to Minn on both sides of the ball. They are coming in as the hotter team. They have the edge at QB, a top knotch coaching staff, and a veteran team with tons of playoff experience. They've played in bigger games, and have shown they are capable of winning meaningful games on the road.

 

If Philly plays their A game, the Vikings have no shot. None.

 

But what makes this an interesting game is the inconsistency in this Philly team, and it's not just this season. The McNabb/Reid combo have been somewhat inconsistent since reaching the SB in the 2004. They often look like one of the league's elite, but have suffered from far too many let downs in games you would expect them to win... the most recent taking place just two weeks ago.

 

So I guess the question here is, which Eagle team will show up this weekend? I guess we'll see.

I agree 100%. I'll think we'll know after the first quarter if this will be a Philadelphia route, or a 10-3-type Philly loss.

[49ER MAN 0]

The case for Philly is far stronger. Statistically they are superior to Minn on both sides of the ball. They are coming in as the hotter team. They have the edge at QB, a top knotch coaching staff, and a veteran team with tons of playoff experience. They've played in bigger games, and have shown they are capable of winning meaningful games on the road.

 

If Philly plays their A game, the Vikings have no shot. None.

 

But what makes this an interesting game is the inconsistency in this Philly team, and it's not just this season. The McNabb/Reid combo have been somewhat inconsistent since reaching the SB in the 2004. They often look like one of the league's elite, but have suffered from far too many let downs in games you would expect them to win... the most recent taking place just two weeks ago.

 

So I guess the question here is, which Eagle team will show up this weekend? I guess we'll see.

 

Great post. Philly went into the champs home and pummeled them and yet couldn't win in Washington and tied Cincy. I just don't get it.

[Candygram4Mongo 8]

Exactly. No way this Eagles team could ever beat the Giants in Giants Stadium.

It took me a second, but now I see the sarcasm.

As a Giant fan, the Eagles scare me as much as any team that might come to the meadowlands in the next 3 weeks.

 

The Eagles are such an up and down team. I am not picking the Eagles to get to the SB because they cannot string that many good games together. I am picking them over the Vikings, because I don't think there down week is this week.

The up and down theme is very similar to other out from nowhere SB champs, last yrs Giants included.

 

The original poster seemed not to be calling a 3 pt line overwhelming, but the number of 'experts' in studios picking philly.

If you ask me, I agree with them. Winning the SB is about having the talent in place and figuring out how to get everyone in the locker room on the same page. The eagles look to have the talent half of that equation, and the chemistry question is leaning toward yes, with the experience the team has.

If I'm in the eagles locker room, I'm looking around and thinking 'why not us?' That mindset has worked for more than one dark horse the last few years, and a SB parade down the turnpike in a month would not surprise me in the least.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course, with their feeble talent at WR, they could also be done by halftime on Sunday.

[Little Big Head 6]

Pat Williams missing this game would be a big blow to the Viking DL. I think Phillys offense matches up well vs the Viking D.

[dhockster 0]

weather obviously wont be a factor......i will take mcnabb over Tarvarious.

 

bottom line......Philly 27 Minny13.

 

Nice preciction.

 

I think the overwelming reason why the Eagles were a road favorite was prior inconsistent play from Taveris Jackson and inexperience in the playoffs.

 

Based on the game yesterday, I think the oddsmakers knew what they were talking about.

[Tricky Williams 0]

Great Win for the Eagles. The dominated the Vikes in the 2nd half. I was proud of the way the Vikes as a team played in the first half and proud of the D in the second half. However Childress continues to blow at 2nd half adjustments as evidenced by the offense completly falling apart and his clock management skills continue to be the worst in the league.

 

I think Tavaris was bad but I just dont get why they didnt roll him out more or have him scramble more. Plus the screen game seem to be working and they went away from that so that he could throw sideline hitches and stops. I put this loss squarely on Chilly and the O coordinater. Even the special teams didnt do that bad this week!

[NewbieJr 540]

Great Win for the Eagles. The dominated the Vikes in the 2nd half. I was proud of the way the Vikes as a team played in the first half and proud of the D in the second half. However Childress continues to blow at 2nd half adjustments as evidenced by the offense completly falling apart and his clock management skills continue to be the worst in the league.

 

I think Tavaris was bad but I just dont get why they didnt roll him out more or have him scramble more. Plus the screen game seem to be working and they went away from that so that he could throw sideline hitches and stops. I put this loss squarely on Chilly and the O coordinater. Even the special teams didnt do that bad this week!

Don't worry. Many more teams would win if it weren't for their quarterback, head coach, offense, and special teams.

 

Another thing not many are mentioning is the fact that the Eagles defense dominated against Pweterson. Yes, he had a 40 yard tpouchdown run, but he had 19 carries for 43 yards the rest of the game. When your star player is getting 2 yards per touch, and he has that many touches, there's going to be a lot of three-and-outs.

[plasma george 52]

"They are who we thought they were".