NewbieJr 541 Posted January 12, 2009 Ok, out of all quarterbacks with at least ten playoff starts (an outstanding accomplishment in its own right), here are the top winning percentages: Bart Starr 9-1 .900 Tom Brady 14-3 .824 Terry Bradshaw 14-5 .737 Troy Aikman 11-4 .733 Joe Montana 16-7 .696 John Elway 14-7 .667 Donavan McNabb 10-5 .667 Roger Staubach 11-6 .647 Phil Simms 6-4 .600 Ken Stabler 7-5 .583 Steve Young 8-6 .571 Brett Favre 12-10 .545 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Next Generation 10 Posted January 12, 2009 Don't know where you got your numbers but McNabb is only 9-5 in the playoffs. It was Garcia in 2006. 2008 = 2-0 2004 = 2-1 2003 = 1-1 2002 = 1-1 2001 = 2-1 2000 = 1-1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 12, 2009 He also throws for about 200 yards a playoff game and has a QB rating under 80.0. For a couple of years, he had more playoff INTs than TD passes, but he has finally, eventually turned that stat around. I guess that Eagle defense and special teams deserve even more credit for their accomplishments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 12, 2009 He also throws for about 200 yards a playoff game and has a QB rating under 80.0. For a couple of years, he had more playoff INTs than TD passes, but he has finally, eventually turned that stat around. I guess that Eagle defense and special teams deserve even more credit for their accomplishments. What is the average playoff passer rating? Obviously, playoff teams generally have much stronger defenses than non-playoff teams. You no longer play every other game against the league's #29th ranked defense. Also, playoff weather is usually bad, especially an east coast QB like McNabb. Look at yesterday's game. I don't know what his passer rating was, but every commentator, analysis, and sportswriter all raved about how well he played. You can worry about passer rating all you want. I'll take a wins and losses as my criteria. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuse9 129 Posted January 12, 2009 You can worry about passer rating all you want. I'll take a wins and losses as my criteria. I'll take wins, as in two wins for the greatest QB of all-time, John Elway! He may have lost three, but he carried his team solely on his back. I can't rip on McNabb though, former Cuse guy....gotta love him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 12, 2009 I'll take wins, as in two wins for the greatest QB of all-time, John Elway! He may have lost three, but he carried his team solely on his back. I can't rip on McNabb though, former Cuse guy....gotta love him! Elway actually had the same reputation that Mcnabb has, at one point. Everyone knew he was a great quarterback, but until he won the Super Bowl, he was considered a choker. As if all those big games he won getting to the playoffs, championship games, and Super Bowls weren't big games. A true 'choker' is a guy like Romo, who presses and plays horribly as soon as the playoffs get within site. A quarterback who gets to teh playoffs like clockwork, and wins twice as many games as he loses (against other playoff teams, by the way) is in no way, shape, or form a choker. Sometimes, you're simply not the best team on the field. Every championship and Super Bowl game ever played had a losing quarterback in it. Not every one of those quarterbacks was a choker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagles Green 34 Posted January 12, 2009 He also throws for about 200 yards a playoff game and has a QB rating under 80.0. For a couple of years, he had more playoff INTs than TD passes, but he has finally, eventually turned that stat around. I guess that Eagle defense and special teams deserve even more credit for their accomplishments. The leader of the haters. Mcnabb is no Hasslehoff though. "We want the ball and we're gonna score!" Bwahahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 12, 2009 The leader of the haters. Mcnabb is no Hasslehoff though. "We want the ball and we're gonna score!" Bwahahaha Dude, haven't you heard? "It's an exciting time to be a Seahawks fan" Bwahahaha. Ha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 12, 2009 The leader of the haters. Mcnabb is no Hasslehoff though. "We want the ball and we're gonna score!" Bwahahaha Hasselbeck is 3x the QB McNabb is when it comes to playoff times. While Hasselbeck is constantly credited with carrying Seattle on his back in playoff games, I have never, not once, never, never, never heard anyone praise McNabb for winning a game for the Eagles. Except for Eagle fans. Typically, it's "well, if McNabb didn't play so poorly, the Eagles might have won." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 12, 2009 Look at yesterday's game. I don't know what his passer rating was, but every commentator, analysis, and sportswriter all raved about how well he played. FALSE. Everybody talked about how poorly Eli played, nobody said anything good about McNabb. I guess the 16 yards of total offense before the prevent defense in the first half was praise worthy. Make way. Here comes the FAILDOZER. Beep. Beep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagles Green 34 Posted January 12, 2009 Hasselbeck is 3x the QB McNabb is when it comes to playoff times. While Hasselbeck is constantly credited with carrying Seattle on his back in playoff games, I have never, not once, never, never, never heard anyone praise McNabb for winning a game for the Eagles. Except for Eagle fans. Typically, it's "well, if McNabb didn't play so poorly, the Eagles might have won." Nice reach assmaster. League MVP Shaun Alexander carried that one-year-wonder team. But you do have a lot to be excited about. A top 5 pick in the next 4 drafts will be really fun. Oh, and thanks for that tax money and the new building. It's very nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Next Generation 10 Posted January 12, 2009 FALSE. Everybody talked about how poorly Eli played, nobody said anything good about McNabb. I guess the 16 yards of total offense before the prevent defense in the first half was praise worthy. Make way. Here comes the FAILDOZER. Beep. Beep. WTF phillybear...you are a bigger hater than the Cowboys fans. McNabb absolutely played a good game against a VERY tough NYG defense in poor conditions (i.e. wind). He made some very nice stick throws and those 2 long passes (1 that was dropped by Curtis, the other caught by Jackson) were things of beauty. He led his team to a playoff win over the #1 team in the NFL. Your shtick is way old and flat-out wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 12, 2009 Nice reach assmaster.League MVP Shaun Alexander carried that one-year-wonder team. But you do have a lot to be excited about. A top 5 pick in the next 4 drafts will be really fun. Oh, and thanks for that tax money and the new building. It's very nice. Alexander spent most playoff games hiding or pretending to be hurt. Alexander was a terrible playoff performer. Hasselbeck was the star. Given the 4 straight years of winning playoff games for Seattle, it would be hard to label the Seahawks as a one year wonder. Yet, you did it anyway. FACE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 12, 2009 WTF phillybear...you are a bigger hater than the Cowboys fans. McNabb absolutely played a good game against a VERY tough NYG defense in poor conditions (i.e. wind). He made some very nice stick throws and those 2 long passes (1 that was dropped by Curtis, the other caught by Jackson) were things of beauty. He led his team to a playoff win over the #1 team in the NFL. Your shtick is way old and flat-out wrong. I'm tired of hearing all the undeserved praise for the Eagles. They are a very average team. Being that I live in Philadelphia makes it that much more horrific. I'm tired of the NewbieJr in my everyday life. They played mediocre football yesterday, but the Giants were awful. Congrats. I don't hear Baltimore spending so much time crowing over their lucky win over Tennessee. But saying that McNabb played a good game is going beyond being a fan. McNabb played less poorly than Manning. It's that simple. Good luck next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 66 Posted January 12, 2009 Ok, out of all quarterbacks with at least ten playoff starts (an outstanding accomplishment in its own right), here are the top winning percentages: Bart Starr 9-1 .900 Tom Brady 14-3 .824 Terry Bradshaw 14-5 .737 Troy Aikman 11-4 .733 Joe Montana 16-7 .696 Donavan McNabb 10-5 .667 Roger Staubach 11-6 .647 Phil Simms 6-4 .600 Ken Stabler 7-5 .583 Steve Young 8-6 .571 Brett Favre 12-10 .545 Nice list. Ben Roethlisberger: 6-2 .750 Maybe .. . just maybe. . . he can reach the minimum this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 12, 2009 Hasselbeck is 3x the QB McNabb is when it comes to playoff times. Matt Hasselbeck playoff record: 9 starts, 4 wins 5 losses Yeah. That's real good. The dude's under .500 as a playoff starter. bThongs sure change when yoiu get out of the comforts of the NFC west. Seriously, are you even trying anymore? You were always an idiot, but you used to sprinkle in a touch of knowledge once in a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 12, 2009 Nice list. Ben Roethlisberger: 6-2 .750 Maybe .. . just maybe. . . he can reach the minimum this year. Yes, Big Ben's been great. I think we're in the very early stages of seeing one of teh best ever with him. Warner also has an impressive post-season record (7-2), he'll be on the list after next week (win or lose). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Next Generation 10 Posted January 12, 2009 I'm tired of hearing all the undeserved praise for the Eagles. They are a very average team. Being that I live in Philadelphia makes it that much more horrific. I'm tired of the NewbieJr in my everyday life. They played mediocre football yesterday, but the Giants were awful. Congrats. I don't hear Baltimore spending so much time crowing over their lucky win over Tennessee. But saying that McNabb played a good game is going beyond being a fan. McNabb played less poorly than Manning. It's that simple. Good luck next week. Thanks...I guess. I think you're wrong about them being average. They were average when Reid constantly relied on the pass (in the 2nd Washington game he went back to his pass-happy ways), but since he's come around to a more balanced approach, they are well-above average. I can understand living in the area and hearing about them 24-7 and that grating on you, but I don't think you're being honest with yourself. This is a very good Eagles team. Their D is one of the best in the league all-around. Oh well...carry-on your hatefest, I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagles Green 34 Posted January 12, 2009 Alexander spent most playoff games hiding or pretending to be hurt. Alexander was a terrible playoff performer. Hasselbeck was the star. Given the 4 straight years of winning playoff games for Seattle, it would be hard to label the Seahawks as a one year wonder. Yet, you did it anyway. FACE. I hate miserable fat people. 4 straight years of winning playoff games, but only one SB appearance? I guess Hasslehoff is a choker. He sure choked at Lambeau with a pick 6 in OT. Mcnabb>>>>>>Hasslefuck That's why Mcnabb is playing football next week. CANKLE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 12, 2009 I hate miserable fat people. 4 straight years of winning playoff games, but only one SB appearance? I guess Hasslehoff is a choker. He sure choked at Lambeau with a pick 6 in OT. Mcnabb>>>>>>Hasslefuck That's why Mcnabb is playing football next week. CANKLE Wouldn't you be miserable if you led the anti-Obama charge and ended up looking foolish, supported a team that ended up 4-12 and with teh fourth overall draft pick next year, and had to watch the Philadelphia Eagles rise from teh dead in week 17 to make this miraculous playoff run? All while realizing that he could have chosen to be a fan of his hometown team, but instead chose a joke of a franchise with a quarterback who's 4-5 lifetime in the playoffs. Hasselbeck finally learned how to avoid his usal playoff chokefest....start choking during the regular season, instead. Bwahahahaha. haha. hee hee TAINT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted January 12, 2009 Wouldn't you be miserable if you led the anti-Obama charge and ended up looking foolish, supported a team that ended up 4-12 and with teh fourth overall draft pick next year, and had to watch the Philadelphia Eagles rise from teh dead in week 17 to make this miraculous playoff run? All while realizing that he could have chosen to be a fan of his hometown team, but instead chose a joke of a franchise with a quarterback who's 4-5 lifetime in the playoffs. Hasselbeck finally learned how to avoid his usal playoff chokefest....start choking during the regular season, instead. Bwahahahaha. haha. hee hee TAINT Hey but always remember: "IT'S AN EXCITING TIME TO BE A SEAHAWKS FAN!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ers_suck 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Elway actually had the same reputation that Mcnabb has, at one point. Everyone knew he was a great quarterback, but until he won the Super Bowl, he was considered a choker. As if all those big games he won getting to the playoffs, championship games, and Super Bowls weren't big games. A true 'choker' is a guy like Romo, who presses and plays horribly as soon as the playoffs get within site. A quarterback who gets to teh playoffs like clockwork, and wins twice as many games as he loses (against other playoff teams, by the way) is in no way, shape, or form a choker. Sometimes, you're simply not the best team on the field. Every championship and Super Bowl game ever played had a losing quarterback in it. Not every one of those quarterbacks was a choker. choker, puker same thing. i kinda hope mcchunky gets to the SB and blows chunks again. oh, but he'll still be one the greatest of all time. you cant put mcnabb in the same sentence with Elway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ers_suck 0 Posted January 12, 2009 The leader of the haters. Mcnabb is no Hasslehoff though. "We want the ball and we're gonna score!" Bwahahaha you are the eagles. you are surprised there are haters? you homos bring it on yourselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,676 Posted January 12, 2009 That 21 yard pass by McNabb on 3rd and 20 was a spirit killer yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagles Green 34 Posted January 12, 2009 choker, puker same thing. i kinda hope mcchunky gets to the SB and blows chunks again. oh, but he'll still be one the greatest of all time. you cant put mcnabb in the same sentence with Elway. Mcnabb may not be in the same sentence, but Romo isn't even in the book. But continue to hate, and watch a clutch QB win another big game. While your QB looks for red carpets and stages more "flat tire incidents." All the time saying, "It's just football." Tony Romo=Tony Banks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 12, 2009 choker, puker same thing. i kinda hope mcchunky gets to the SB and blows chunks again. oh, but he'll still be one the greatest of all time. you cant put mcnabb in the same sentence with Elway. McNabb can only hope to one-day have the nerves of steel and clutchness that Romo has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted January 12, 2009 Chunky McNabb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Choker Rhomo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewburtx8 67 Posted January 12, 2009 I'm tired of hearing all the undeserved praise for the Eagles. They are a very average team. Being that I live in Philadelphia makes it that much more horrific. I'm tired of the NewbieJr in my everyday life. They played mediocre football yesterday, but the Giants were awful. Congrats. I don't hear Baltimore spending so much time crowing over their lucky win over Tennessee. But saying that McNabb played a good game is going beyond being a fan. McNabb played less poorly than Manning. It's that simple. Good luck next week. Average teams don't finish in the top 8 in the NFL is offense, scoring offense, defense, and scoring defense. Their defense is one of the top 3 in the NFL right up there with Pittsburgh and Baltimore, and they're playing better than ever right now. Their offense still finished in the top 8 in the nfl in offense and scoring, and that's in spite of some very poor play calling games by Reid. I just think you're underestimating the talent on this team. They absolutely took it to the Giants yesterday. Everyone thought the Giants offensive line and running game could dominate an undersized Eagles front 7, but that was hardly the case. And while McNabb wasn't spectacular, he played 2 quarters throwing in very windy conditions against a very good defense at GIANT stadium. He still finished over 50% passing, led 4 scoring drives, and made some very crucial 3rd down conversions. Did you see the play he made on 3rd and 20?, that was vintage McNabb. He is doing a very nice job of escaping any pressure and putting the ball where it needs to go. Don't sleep on this Eagles team. They got all the momentum and are playing as well or better than anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FantasyBowl33 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Ok, out of all quarterbacks with at least ten playoff starts (an outstanding accomplishment in its own right), here are the top winning percentages:Tom Brady 14-3 .824 This is pretty impressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 12, 2009 This is pretty impressive. Agreed. This is why I considered Brady to be a top five all-time QB long before last season's crazy year with Moss, which scewed his stats quite a bit,. Brady was a clutch quarterback when his team wasn't always the best one on the field. That's why I hold post-season record so high in my rankings of quarterbacks. Weak divisons and whatnot are taken out of the eqaution. You are always playing top teams. No 4-12 teams paddding those records. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewburtx8 67 Posted January 12, 2009 choker, puker same thing. i kinda hope mcchunky gets to the SB and blows chunks again. oh, but he'll still be one the greatest of all time. you cant put mcnabb in the same sentence with Elway. You are right, you can't because Elways has the two Super Bowls. BUT if you look at the first 10 years of Elway's career versus McNabb, they are eerily similar, and the edge would actually go to McNabb. They both made many pro bowls and reached conference championship games and Super Bowls, but couldn't win it all. Elway was just considered a very good QB through 10 years that couldn't win the big game. Could McNabb turn in to the Elways of today? I don't know, but I think it is possible. But as you said, until McNabb gets a Super Bowl win, the comparisons can't be made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ers_suck 0 Posted January 12, 2009 McNabb can only hope to one-day have the nerves of steel and clutchness that Romo has. listen, i'm starting to wonder if Romo is the man myself. one things for sure though, mcchunk will never attain Aikman stature. Chunky McNabb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Choker Rhomo you're right. Romo has one or two more years to get it done. then the Cowboys look elsewhere. mcchunk is not gonna win a SB. he'll get tossed aside by the iggles, and sign with the dolphins, and break his hip. his mom will have to feed him chunky soup in bed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 12, 2009 listen, i'm starting to wonder if Romo is the man myself. one things for sure though, mcchunk will never attain Aikman stature. Oh. Well congratulation on your quarterback from fifteen years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted January 12, 2009 I would think Kurt Warner is right up there? 7-2? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted January 12, 2009 Philly deserves to be where they are. They took away everything the giants do well yesterday and did a pretty decent job of controlling that game yesterday. McNabb was a big reason for that, he played very well, particularly on 3rd down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagles Green 34 Posted January 12, 2009 Oh. Well congratulation on your quarterback from fifteen years ago. Leave him alone. When you have no future or present, you have to look at the past. Even if it was a millenium ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ers_suck 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Oh. Well congratulation on your quarterback from fifteen years ago. we're talkin all-time QB's here, right? you started the thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted January 12, 2009 Don't know where you got your numbers but McNabb is only 9-5 in the playoffs. It was Garcia in 2006. 2008 = 2-0 2004 = 2-1 2003 = 1-1 2002 = 1-1 2001 = 2-1 2000 = 1-1 Is Newbie gonna edit his wrong original post or is he gonna leave the lie up there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 12, 2009 I would think Kurt Warner is right up there? 7-2? He will be after next week's game. 10 playoff starts minimum. Obviosuly, the records mean more with the more playoff games you play. If I add Warner, I have to go back and check everyone with nine games. Then we'd have Rothlisberger-guys wanting his eight starts to count. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 12, 2009 we're talkin all-time QB's here, right? you started the thread. Yes we are. The list is in the original post. You brought up Aikman. He's already on the list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites