All-time playoff quarterback winning percentages

[FlaHawker 24]

If phillybear or Faghawker sees this, they may not allow you in the "Exciting time to be a Seahawks fan"-thread anymore.

Link to where I said Hass was better than McNabb? I'll save you some time. I never said it. You lose again Newbie. Now please get off this bored and go find a job!

[FlaHawker 24]

Refreshing there Joey. a reasonable Seahawks fan, who knew?

Why don't you tell us what an unreasonable Seahawk fan is?

[jgcrawfish 232]

Why don't you tell us what an unreasonable Seahawk fan is?

 

Step-by-step instructions for Flahawker to identify an unreasonable Seahawks fan...

 

1. Walk to mirror

2. Look in mirror

3. Try to overlook intense ugly factor

4. Fight urge to throw up in your own mouth

5. Realize that guy in the mirror is an unreasonable Seahawks fan

 

[FlaHawker 24]

Step-by-step instructions for Flahawker to identify an unreasonable Seahawks fan...

 

1. Walk to mirror

2. Look in mirror

3. Try to overlook intense ugly factor

4. Fight urge to throw up in your own mouth

5. Realize that guy in the mirror is an unreasonable Seahawks fan

 

Yeah I didn't expect much more than this...I mean to come back and say an unreasonable Seahawk fan is someone who thinks they should draft Crabtree at #4 would make you look pretty stupid. Nice diversion post

[jgcrawfish 232]

Yeah I didn't expect much more than this...I mean to come back and say an unreasonable Seahawk fan is someone who thinks they should draft Crabtree at #4 would make you look pretty stupid. Nice diversion post

 

No, an unreasonable Seahawks fan is one who openly criticizes someone who comes into "their" thread and has a different opinion of the franchise and what it should be looking for in the draft. But hey, everybody is entitled to their opinion right? Well, except anyone who's not a Seahawks fan, hell, even those who are Seahawks fans but who differ from you... I'm not trying to divert anybody, I think it's a mistake to spend a #4 overall pick on a WR, especially in light of some of the things I've pointed out about Crabtree already. I have very little doubt he'll end up being the most talented WR draft this year after some time. But again, it's "your" team. At this point, considering you're such a pr!ck about things, and despite my respect for Crabtree, I kind hope "you" draft him, he falls on his face, and you guys are looking up at the Lions record wise, just so this whole topic can the be shoved straight up your arse for months following.

[Super Cubs 154]

Ok, out of all quarterbacks with at least ten playoff starts (an outstanding accomplishment in its own right), here are the top winning percentages:

 

Bart Starr 9-1 .900

Tom Brady 14-3 .824

Terry Bradshaw 14-5 .737

Troy Aikman 11-4 .733

Joe Montana 16-7 .696

John Elway 14-7 .667

Donavan McNabb 10-5 .667

Roger Staubach 11-6 .647

Phil Simms 6-4 .600

Ken Stabler 7-5 .583

Steve Young 8-6 .571

Brett Favre 12-10 .545

 

I'm courious how Jim Kelly rates?

[bushy 0]

I'm courious how Jim Kelly rates?

 

Kelly was 9-8 in the playoffs.

[kmbryant09 1]

What is the average playoff passer rating? Obviously, playoff teams generally have much stronger defenses than non-playoff teams. You no longer play every other game against the league's #29th ranked defense. Also, playoff weather is usually bad, especially an east coast QB like McNabb. Look at yesterday's game. I don't know what his passer rating was, but every commentator, analysis, and sportswriter all raved about how well he played.

 

You can worry about passer rating all you want. I'll take a wins and losses as my criteria.

 

Joe Flacco is undefeated in the postseason - is he an all-time clutch QB??? He is not even one of the top 3 or 4 reasons his team has won games....And yes is maybe SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE in the playoffs, aka....NOT CLUTCH, nor the reason his team is winning...

[FlaHawker 24]

No, an unreasonable Seahawks fan is one who openly criticizes someone who comes into "their" thread and has a different opinion of the franchise and what it should be looking for in the draft. But hey, everybody is entitled to their opinion right? Well, except anyone who's not a Seahawks fan, hell, even those who are Seahawks fans but who differ from you... I'm not trying to divert anybody, I think it's a mistake to spend a #4 overall pick on a WR, especially in light of some of the things I've pointed out about Crabtree already. I have very little doubt he'll end up being the most talented WR draft this year after some time. But again, it's "your" team. At this point, considering you're such a pr!ck about things, and despite my respect for Crabtree, I kind hope "you" draft him, he falls on his face, and you guys are looking up at the Lions record wise, just so this whole topic can the be shoved straight up your arse for months following.

No, an unreasonable Seahawks fan is one who openly criticizes someone who comes into "their" thread and has a different opinion of the franchise and what it should be looking for in the draft.

That's interesting considering you came in with insults

you know what you get when your offensive line stinks, your qb situation is bad, you have little-to-no running game, your defense can't stop anyone and you draft a WR with a high draft pick??? Ladies and gentlemen, your Detroit Lions, er, uh, Seattle Seahawks for 2009. If you're not admitting that you're heading toward rebuilding then you are indeed delusional.

That was intended to insult, not to discuss the Seahawks draft. It was an indirect insult at anyone who favored Crabtree at 4 and not YOUR fix for the team, a fix for a team you openly stated you don't give a rat's arse about and that you know nothing about in terms of depth. So stop playing the I got attacked for simply disagreeing bullshite. We both know that isn't the case. Hell, Phillybear and I are on opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to Ruskell, John Carlson, and other Seahawk issues but you don't see me "attacking" him or any other Seahawk fan with a different opinion. Outsiders came in to throw stones, which is fine, but don't cry when they get tossed back. Personally, I don't even expect Ruskell to draft Crabtree. Crabtree doesn't exactly fit the player profile Ruskell desires (4 year starter, big time school). That falls to Michael Oher and Malcolm Jenkins. But because Ruskell likes some of the depth on the oline I think today the Hawks would lean towads to Jenkins. Like I said, I want Crabtree. Just because you don't like the pick, BFD!

[Eagles Green 34]

Joe Flacco is undefeated in the postseason - is he an all-time clutch QB??? He is not even one of the top 3 or 4 reasons his team has won games....And yes is maybe SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE in the playoffs, aka....NOT CLUTCH, nor the reason his team is winning...

He may end up being just that.

No ints or sacks taken, 2-0 in the playoffs.

 

After 10 playoff games, his name may be there.

[NewbieJr 541]

Joe Flacco is undefeated in the postseason - is he an all-time clutch QB??? He is not even one of the top 3 or 4 reasons his team has won games....And yes is maybe SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE in the playoffs, aka....NOT CLUTCH, nor the reason his team is winning...

I used a ten game minimum to eliminate flukes or guys with one good run. Not that Flacco isn't worthy of being considered a clutch-performer, but it's way too early to tell.

[tubby_mcgee 701]

McNabb is the biggest choker in the history of the NFL at this point. MULTIPLE playoff chokes, championship chokes and a SB choke. He's got a chance to change all that over the next few weeks.

[tubby_mcgee 701]

Nice reach assmaster.

League MVP Shaun Alexander carried that one-year-wonder team. But you do have a lot to be excited about. A top 5 pick in the next 4 drafts will be really fun.

 

Oh, and thanks for that tax money and the new building. It's very nice.

 

 

Whoooaaa whooaa. Just a minute here. LOL. You and the Eagles clan....jump on Romo (last years loss to the Giants) and credit Romo with the losses no matter what else happens. Nowwwwwwww you are crediting wins by Seattle to Alexander?

 

Call a spade a spade each and every time. Either it's the QB or it isn't Don't pick and choose.

 

Talk about haters. You can't even keep you hating straight.

 

Getting back to being consistent....if you are going to tag QB's with losses...then take a look at McNabbs playoff and SB losses. McNabb was bragging that they have been in the championship 5 of 10 seasons. Does that dumb bastage realize they lost in the championship or SB ----100% of the time. 100%. LOL.

 

He's got a chance to make everyone forget about his ineptness if he can guide the Eagles to a SB win. If not, it's 100% his fault no matter what.

[jgcrawfish 232]

That's interesting considering you came in with insults That was intended to insult, not to discuss the Seahawks draft. It was an indirect insult at anyone who favored Crabtree at 4 and not YOUR fix for the team, a fix for a team you openly stated you don't give a rat's arse about and that you know nothing about in terms of depth. So stop playing the I got attacked for simply disagreeing bullshite. We both know that isn't the case. Hell, Phillybear and I are on opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to Ruskell, John Carlson, and other Seahawk issues but you don't see me "attacking" him or any other Seahawk fan with a different opinion. Outsiders came in to throw stones, which is fine, but don't cry when they get tossed back. Personally, I don't even expect Ruskell to draft Crabtree. Crabtree doesn't exactly fit the player profile Ruskell desires (4 year starter, big time school). That falls to Michael Oher and Malcolm Jenkins. But because Ruskell likes some of the depth on the oline I think today the Hawks would lean towads to Jenkins. Like I said, I want Crabtree. Just because you don't like the pick, BFD!

 

It's funny that you leave off my entire post...

 

Couple of things here...

 

you know what you get when your offensive line stinks, your qb situation is bad, you have little-to-no running game, your defense can't stop anyone and you draft a WR with a high draft pick??? Ladies and gentlemen, your Detroit Lions, er, uh, Seattle Seahawks for 2009. If you're not admitting that you're heading toward rebuilding then you are indeed delusional. You're looking up at the 49ers by 3 freakin games and bordering dangerously close to becoming the doormat for far and away the weakest division in football. Trade your #4 pick to move down into the teens, stockpile as many picks as you can from it and use that to strengthen your offensive line and defense, forgettabout getting a high priced WR (especially Boldin) unless you can land him as a UFA for $$$ only and no picks and roll the dice with Burleson (who looked good before getting hurt), Branch and Carlson. Take a gamble on a "good" UFA RB like Derrick Ward (notice I said good, Julius Jones does not count) AND hope like hell that Hass can come back from his injury. If you have that opportunity to take Crabtree at #4 and do it, I'll guarantee that the Lions will win more games than the Seachickens 2 years from now.

 

You see "steelers fan in my thread" and "lions" and put the little chip on your shoulder. Quit fockin whining, it goes against your tough guy persona

[tubby_mcgee 701]

Ok, out of all quarterbacks with at least ten playoff starts there is one that has FAILED 100% of the time in attempt to win a SB. I've bolded him, in case you don't know.

 

Bart Starr 9-1 .900

Tom Brady 14-3 .824

Terry Bradshaw 14-5 .737

Troy Aikman 11-4 .733

Joe Montana 16-7 .696

John Elway 14-7 .667

Donavan McNabb 10-5 .667

Roger Staubach 11-6 .647

Phil Simms 6-4 .600

Ken Stabler 7-5 .583

Steve Young 8-6 .571

Brett Favre 12-10 .545

 

Yep.

[Eagles Green 34]

Whoooaaa whooaa. Just a minute here. LOL. You and the Eagles clan....jump on Romo (last years loss to the Giants) and credit Romo with the losses no matter what else happens. Nowwwwwwww you are crediting wins by Seattle to Alexander?

 

Call a spade a spade each and every time. Either it's the QB or it isn't Don't pick and choose.

 

Talk about haters. You can't even keep you hating straight.

 

Getting back to being consistent....if you are going to tag QB's with losses...then take a look at McNabbs playoff and SB losses. McNabb was bragging that they have been in the championship 5 of 10 seasons. Does that dumb bastage realize they lost in the championship or SB ----100% of the time. 100%. LOL.

 

He's got a chance to make everyone forget about his ineptness if he can guide the Eagles to a SB win. If not, it's 100% his fault no matter what.

What the fock are you babbling about? That's right, Romo was awesome vs the Giants last year.

 

I criticize Romo because he has never, ever, EVER played well in a big game. When I say big game, I'm talking playoffs or games needed to reach the playoffs. If he wins just one playoff game, maybe my view on him will change. But until then, he's just a choker.

 

And why can't I pick and choose who to blame for big losses? It's not always the QBs fault they lose, just like it isn't always the reason a team wins. Marino >>>>>> Dilfer. Dilfer's lone championship doesn't change that,

 

Mcnabb has had some bad losses in his career, I'll admit that. But he has more big wins than big losses.

 

You're obviously just a hater that can't stand watching Mcnabb succeed.

 

Move along

[NewbieJr 541]

Whoooaaa whooaa. Just a minute here. LOL. You and the Eagles clan....jump on Romo (last years loss to the Giants) and credit Romo with the losses no matter what else happens. Nowwwwwwww you are crediting wins by Seattle to Alexander?

 

Call a spade a spade each and every time. Either it's the QB or it isn't Don't pick and choose.

 

Talk about haters. You can't even keep you hating straight.

 

Getting back to being consistent....if you are going to tag QB's with losses...then take a look at McNabbs playoff and SB losses. McNabb was bragging that they have been in the championship 5 of 10 seasons. Does that dumb bastage realize they lost in the championship or SB ----100% of the time. 100%. LOL.

 

He's got a chance to make everyone forget about his ineptness if he can guide the Eagles to a SB win. If not, it's 100% his fault no matter what.

Do you realize that you sound like a retard here?

 

First of all, out of 32 starting quarterbacks, 31 of them either lose in their last playoff game, or lose so many times they don't even get to play any playoff games. McNabb has been good enough to raraely fall into that bottom 20 part. So, even then, his chances are 11 of 12 to lose his last game.

 

He's lost 5 playoff games EVER. Joe Montana lost 7.

 

Also, championship games and Super Bowls are not the only 'big games' a team plays. Just this year alone, McNabb and the Eagles have won 7 of 8 big games since the Cincy tie. They were all playoff games or games they needed to make the playoffs. By the way, McNabb's been playing great in that stretch.

 

There's still a pretty good chance that the Eagles may lose one of the two games remaining. They are both against teams that will have made it pretty damn far into teh playoffs. That's the thing about championship games and Super Bowls. Rarely is the other team 4-12 or ranked 30th in defense. Sometimes, when a team loses those games, they just weren't the better team.

 

Did you see Delhomme's game against Arizona? That's an example of a quarterback choking. When he has the clearly better team and continually throws interceptions and can't figure things out. Try to know ebeough about football to understand that three of the remaining four quarterbacks remaining will lose. That will bring this season's total (just like every other season) to 31. That doesn't mean they necessarily choked.

[FlaHawker 24]

It's funny that you leave off my entire post...

You see "steelers fan in my thread" and "lions" and put the little chip on your shoulder. Quit fockin whining, it goes against your tough guy persona

I am not whinning. Your the one running around starting threads about hating teams and posters. You're the one calling me football_scooter. Your the one with his panties in a bunch because I didn't let you walk into Seahawk with some half baked "plan" for the team after you admitted you know nothing about them. I'm sorry you were incompetent. You get a big fat F!

[tubby_mcgee 701]

First of all, out of 32 starting quarterbacks, 31 of them either lose in their last playoff game, or lose so many times they don't even get to play any playoff games.

 

He's lost 5 playoff games EVER. Joe Montana lost 7.

 

 

Ohhhhhhh I see. So for McNabb, just "getting there" is an accomplishment. But for Romo (the first two years he started, his team made it there), that "doesn't count".

 

Ohh...wait...wait.....let me guess. Now you're going to draw your "hate line" right between "being good enough to make it to the playoffs" )Romo) and making it, winning, but always choking when it counts (McNabb)?

 

Your hate blinders are strapped on pretty tight.

 

Here's a tip: Next time, think before you let your mouth runneth over, THEN post. You almost got it right. You posted, but failed to think altogether.

 

 

The bottom line...when all is said and done...is that 1.) McNabb in his 10+ years at the helm and the 2.) Eagles over that time frame, and the time frame back to the start of the NFL...have failed. Think about. There's got to be a reason for that-but what is it? Every single time...the Eagles come up short. 100% of the time. Why would some teams sh#t on their fans like that? Seriously. Chew on that for a bit.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

What the fock are you babbling about? That's right, Romo was awesome vs the Giants last year.

 

I criticize Romo because he has never, ever, EVER played well in a big game. When I say big game, I'm talking playoffs or games needed to reach the playoffs. If he wins just one playoff game, maybe my view on him will change. But until then, he's just a choker.

 

And why can't I pick and choose who to blame for big losses? It's not always the QBs fault they lose, just like it isn't always the reason a team wins. Marino >>>>>> Dilfer. Dilfer's lone championship doesn't change that,

 

Mcnabb has had some bad losses in his career, I'll admit that. But he has more big wins than big losses.

 

You're obviously just a hater that can't stand watching Mcnabb succeed.

 

Move along

 

You're a tool, but you're 100% correct. To compare McNabb's roughly 40% choke rate in big games to Romo's 100% choke rate is flat out ridiculous.

 

And I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

 

Donovan McNabb has won more playoff games already then Romo will EVER win. Period. End of discussion. I won't even entertain the idea of a debate on this.

[Eagles Green 34]

You're a tool, but you're 100% correct. To compare McNabb's roughly 40% choke rate in big games to Romo's 100% choke rate is flat out ridiculous.

 

And I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

 

Donovan McNabb has won more playoff games already then Romo will EVER win. Period. End of discussion. I won't even entertain the idea of a debate on this.

Then what are we arguing about?

 

And the main reason Mcnabb has no ring is becuase the Pats cheat.

 

HTH

[jerryskids 6,836]

Ohhhhhhh I see. So for McNabb, just "getting there" is an accomplishment. But for Romo (the first two years he started, his team made it there), that "doesn't count".

 

Ohh...wait...wait.....let me guess. Now you're going to draw your "hate line" right between "being good enough to make it to the playoffs" )Romo) and making it, winning, but always choking when it counts (McNabb)?

 

Your hate blinders are strapped on pretty tight.

 

Here's a tip: Next time, think before you let your mouth runneth over, THEN post. You almost got it right. You posted, but failed to think altogether.

The bottom line...when all is said and done...is that 1.) McNabb in his 10+ years at the helm and the 2.) Eagles over that time frame, and the time frame back to the start of the NFL...have failed. Think about. There's got to be a reason for that-but what is it? Every single time...the Eagles come up short. 100% of the time. Why would some teams sh#t on their fans like that? Seriously. Chew on that for a bit.

At the risk of defending Newbie, this is just stoopid. Romo has been the offensive leader of two extremely talented teams, and single-handedly botched a playoff game. McNabb has played most of his career with a box of rocks (and Westy recently) to throw to. To even compare the two is ludicrous.

[Eagles Green 34]

Ohhhhhhh I see. So for McNabb, just "getting there" is an accomplishment. But for Romo (the first two years he started, his team made it there), that "doesn't count".

Romo's team has never won a playoff game, and he fumbled their best chance away.

Mcnabb has won a bunch, including a Conf. Championship. If Mcnabb "just got" to the playoffs, and blew every game, I'd agree with you.

 

 

Until Mcnabb wins a SB, he will be lumped in with Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, and Jim Kelly. Great QBs that just couldn't win a ring.

 

If Mcnabb wins a SB, he's a 100% hall of famer. He may already be one without the hardware.

[NewbieJr 541]

At the risk of defending Newbie, this is just stoopid. Romo has been the offensive leader of two extremely talented teams, and single-handedly botched a playoff game. McNabb has played most of his career with a box of rocks (and Westy recently) to throw to. To even compare the two is ludicrous.

Thanks Jer, but I certainly don't need defending when the opponent is Tubby Mcgee. The dude is about as clueless as they come.

 

Comparing McNabb to Romo, when Romo is 0-2 lifetime in teh playoffs, with more talent than Mcnabb has ever had, is ridiculous. Add to it the fact that the two went head to head in week 17 in what was essentially a playoff game, and McNabb's Eagles slaughtered Romo's Cowboys, 44-6.

 

Also, the fact that McNabb even has Philly in a position to get to the Super Bowl, when no one predicted they'd finish higher in their division than third, is a testament to his quarterbacking. Sure the defense has been great, but McNabbs 10:2 Td-to-Int ration down teh stretch is why they're still alive. Short of a Delhomme-type meltdown this week, Mcnabb's accomplishments in 2009 are a ringing endorsment as to why he belongs in the HOF. Ring or no ring.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Then what are we arguing about?

 

And the main reason Mcnabb has no ring is becuase the Pats cheat.

 

HTH

 

I didn't know we were arguing. Maybe something involving McNabb vs. Hasselbeck.

 

I just had to chime in on comparing a guy who has never won anything of significance (Romo) to a guy like McNabb who has.

 

And blaming your SB loss on the Pats cheating is lame. You lost because McNabb folded down the stretch.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Until Mcnabb wins a SB, he will be lumped in with Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, and Jim Kelly. Great QBs that just couldn't win a ring.

 

I agree with you right up until here. Even if you put him in the same tier as these guys, he would be on the very very bottom.

 

Mentioning McNabb in the same sentence as Marino is flat out silly.

[jgcrawfish 232]

I hold no preference for either team, but McNabb >>> Romo at this point, and it's not even close. The Eagles have made the NFC Championships because of McNabb...and I agree, McNabb has already won more playoff games than Romo will likely ever win. Romo is a great 1st 1/2 of the season QB, but he shrinks under the weight of expectations. Both are victims of a bad TO drug-trip. If the Eagles win this weekend and go to the SB, McNabb will get in the HOF, win or lose. If I could only choose betweent these two guys as the QB of my team, I take McNabb every day and twice on Sunday.

[SUXBNME 1,516]

Steve Young = All around best to ever play the position...FWIW, I loath the Niners.

[phan420 0]

Ohhhhhhh I see. So for McNabb, just "getting there" is an accomplishment. But for Romo (the first two years he started, his team made it there), that "doesn't count".

 

Ohh...wait...wait.....let me guess. Now you're going to draw your "hate line" right between "being good enough to make it to the playoffs" )Romo) and making it, winning, but always choking when it counts (McNabb)?

 

Your hate blinders are strapped on pretty tight.

 

Here's a tip: Next time, think before you let your mouth runneth over, THEN post. You almost got it right. You posted, but failed to think altogether.

The bottom line...when all is said and done...is that 1.) McNabb in his 10+ years at the helm and the 2.) Eagles over that time frame, and the time frame back to the start of the NFL...have failed. Think about. There's got to be a reason for that-but what is it? Every single time...the Eagles come up short. 100% of the time. Why would some teams sh#t on their fans like that? Seriously. Chew on that for a bit.