jets24 6 Posted January 28, 2009 I am enjoying his candor and straightforwardness. However, he seems to me like he is talks to much and too freely. I actually appreciate it and find it refreshing but I suspect sometime soon he is going to say something that will get him in big trouble. Having Biden as your VP doesn't help him in that category. That guy can talk forever. Anyhow, just a thought about our POTUS. I really am starting to get a bit nervous for him. I could be wrong. Who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,453 Posted January 28, 2009 I like his style. He just had a long meeting with House Republicans discussing his stimulus bill. Even if he doesn't win many converts to it it's still a very impressive show of respect for their opinions. It certaily looks like he's trying to back his promise of trying change the tone in Washington, we'll see if he still has these meetings four years from now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted January 28, 2009 I like his style. He just had a long meeting with House Republicans discussing his stimulus bill. Even if he doesn't win many converts to it it's still a very impressive show of respect for their opinions. It certaily looks like he's trying to back his promise of trying change the tone in Washington, we'll see if he still has these meetings four years from now. Believe me, I totally agree. I was just reading about the meeting with Republicans today and I give him huge props. He just makes me a bit nervous when he speaks so comfortably. I picture a few "open mouth, insert foot" moments in the near future. Hopefully, they are innocent and harmless and he learns from them. Either way, I'm pleased with the way he has conducted himself. I suspect that Nancy P and Harry Reid are less pleased. We'll see where this stimulus plan lands. That will tell a lot. I will be curious how much input from the Republicans actually gets put into the bill. As he said yesterday, he will be judged by his actions, not words. Good for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravens 03 0 Posted January 28, 2009 It will be interesting to see what he does in his 1st 2 years. My guess = Radical left agenda which will drastically change America [not for the best]. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,453 Posted January 28, 2009 Believe me, I totally agree. I was just reading about the meeting with Republicans today and I give him huge props. He just makes me a bit nervous when he speaks so comfortably. I picture a few "open mouth, insert foot" moments in the near future. Hopefully, they are innocent and harmless and he learns from them. Either way, I'm pleased with the way he has conducted himself. I suspect that Nancy P and Harry Reid are less pleased. We'll see where this stimulus plan lands. That will tell a lot. I will be curious how much input from the Republicans actually gets put into the bill. As he said yesterday, he will be judged by his actions, not words. Good for him. I think there's nothing to worry about on message delivery. We've just had him under the microscope for two years and the only foot in mouth moment I can recall was talking about rural voters clinging to guns and religion to a San Francisco crowd. Other than that he's had smooth sailing and a close to flawless campaign. I don't know how much influence the GOP will have with the final bill, if it's not a lot then there won't be a lot of votes for him to mine there either. Now he's got every right and no hinderence to ram through a Democrat bill on party lines but if he wants a bipartisan bill like he says he does, he's going to have to make some concessions to GOP concerns. Now that Eric Cantor, the new minority whip who I didn't really like but don't know that well, he's got some good points. If the stimulus bill focuses on stimulus, the GOP is ready to back it. It seems the GOP is ready to deal if Nancy Pelosi will take the liberal pork out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 568 Posted January 28, 2009 I think there's nothing to worry about on message delivery. We've just had him under the microscope for two years and the only foot in mouth moment I can recall was talking about rural voters clinging to guns and religion to a San Francisco crowd. Other than that he's had smooth sailing and a close to flawless campaign. Off the top of my head, there was also his "typical white person" remark. Plus his 57 states gaffe (although that was a simple slip of the tongue). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,453 Posted January 28, 2009 Off the top of my head, there was also his "typical white person" remark. Plus his 57 states gaffe (although that was a simple slip of the tongue). I don't remember the "typical white person" remark which is strange considering it would have been trumpted up and down around here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted January 28, 2009 Off the top of my head, there was also his "typical white person" remark. Plus his 57 states gaffe (although that was a simple slip of the tongue). I'm not worried about the small stuff or the suggested racial stuff. I'm a big boy, I can handle "hot mike" moments and stupid media bytes. I worry about offending entire nation either friend or foe. Well, not so worried if he upsets our foes but you get the point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 568 Posted January 28, 2009 I don't remember the "typical white person" remark which is strange considering it would have been trumpted up and down around here. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...=typical++white Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 136 Posted January 28, 2009 I'm not worried about the small stuff or the suggested racial stuff. I'm a big boy, I can handle "hot mike" moments and stupid media bytes. I worry about offending entire nation either friend or foe. Well, not so worried if he upsets our foes but you get the point. where were you the past 8 years??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 28, 2009 Anxiously awaiting Recliner Pilot, Flawhawker, and phillybear's unbiased and reasonable response. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 28, 2009 I take some issue with Jesus Obama's blatant racism, the corrupt people he has surrounded himself with, and especially the stupid bailout which is something any normal person with half a brain knows is a terrible move. My biggest fear is all the self professed whimpering pussies who blindly support everything he does. I don't want to be on the same side as the weepy, estrogen injecting, tucking their junk back and dancing around in a robe, self professed whimpering pussies. I'd fock me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,453 Posted January 28, 2009 I take some issue with Jesus Obama's blatant racism, the corrupt people he has surrounded himself with, and especially the stupid bailout which is something any normal person with half a brain knows is a terrible move. My biggest fear is all the self professed whimpering pussies who blindly support everything he does. I don't want to be on the same side as the weepy, estrogen injecting, tucking their junk back and dancing around in a robe, self professed whimpering pussies. I'd fock me. I understand everything but the last sentence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 28, 2009 I understand everything but the last sentence. I was comparing NewbieJr to Jame Gumb from Silence of the Lambs. When he was posing in front of a mirror; that was part of his dialogue. Actually, this happens routinely around here. I'll make an analogy that goes by unnoticed and unexplained. Thanks for asking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,453 Posted January 28, 2009 I was comparing NewbieJr to Jame Gumb from Silence of the Lambs. When he was posing in front of a mirror; that was part of his dialogue. Actually, this happens routinely around here. I'll make an analogy that goes by unnoticed and unexplained. Thanks for asking. OK, I saw that movie (hose vs lotion) but didn't make the connection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,701 Posted January 28, 2009 Actually, this happens routinely around here. I'll make an analogy that goes by unnoticed and unexplained. Thanks for asking. I don't get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted January 28, 2009 Actually, this happens routinely around here. I'll make an analogy that goes by unnoticed and unexplained. unnoticed<>ignored Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted January 28, 2009 Wouldn't it be just wild if he established friendly relations with others and made us more safe by doing so? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted January 28, 2009 One concern I have, not really "scared" about it, but I'm concerned that Obama will grow frustrated with the intertia and bullshiit in Washington. Much as I tired of the inferiors herein, I can see him getting frustrated / pissed off at some of the jerkoffs in DC. I don't think that's a bad thing, but I can see him going off on Pelosi and Reid - and they, being the petty, petulant biitches that they are, completely bringing Congress to a stand-still until their feeliings are assuaged. I'd put huge money on that. I think this guy is truly trying to reach across the aisle and I think there's a shiitload of Dems who think "Aha! Payback time!" We've already seen that; Some Dems want to basically retroactively impeach the entire Bush Admin and Obama's more worried about what's ahead. I worry far less about him butting heads with the GOP than I do the buttheads in his own party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 28, 2009 One concern I have, not really "scared" about it, but I'm concerned that Obama will grow frustrated with the intertia and bullshiit in Washington. May have been a good idea for him to spend more than a few months in DC before wanting to be annointed President. Mebbe he would have a better grasp on how it works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,701 Posted January 28, 2009 May have been a good idea for him to spend more than a few months in DC before wanting to be annointed President. Mebbe he would have a better grasp on how it works. a·noint 1. To apply oil, ointment, or a similar substance to. 2. To put oil on during a religious ceremony as a sign of sanctification or consecration. 3. To choose by or as if by divine intervention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted January 28, 2009 May have been a good idea for him to spend more than a few months in DC before wanting to be annointed President. Mebbe he would have a better grasp on how it works. You do understand that your guy never set foot in Washington before he got the job, right? I mean, of all the shots you want to take, that's right up there with zapping him for a word gaffe. Glass houses and stones and all that, dontcha know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted January 28, 2009 I like his style. He just had a long meeting with House Republicans discussing his stimulus bill. Even if he doesn't win many converts to it it's still a very impressive show of respect for their opinions. It certaily looks like he's trying to back his promise of trying change the tone in Washington, we'll see if he still has these meetings four years from now. Did you especially like the part where Obama told them there would be no compromise? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 28, 2009 You do understand that your guy never set foot in Washington before he got the job, right? I mean, of all the shots you want to take, that's right up there with zapping him for a word gaffe. Glass houses and stones and all that, dontcha know. Yep. He was Gov of one of the largest states in the country with one of the largest economies in the world. Not quite a "Community Organizer" but................ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted January 28, 2009 Did you especially like the part where Obama told them there would be no compromise? link to him saying no compromise? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted January 28, 2009 Yep. He was Gov of one of the largest states in the country with one of the largest economies in the world. Not quite a "Community Organizer" but................ I thought your problem was about not spending enough time in Washington?? Guess you'll be voting for Gray Davis in 2012, huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 28, 2009 link to him saying no compromise? We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted January 28, 2009 link to him saying no compromise? Obama says "No Compromise". Sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted January 28, 2009 Too funny. Rusty can't keep his RP and FLAHawk straight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 28, 2009 I thought your problem was about not spending enough time in Washington?? Reading comprehension........catch it! Since Obama took the DC route I think he should have had more than a few months experience before starting his run for President (he thought that as well, see my sig). Had he racked up some executive experience elsewhere prior to going to DC it wouldn't be an issue, he didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted January 28, 2009 Reading comprehension........catch it! Since Obama took the DC route I think he should have had more than a few months experience before starting his run for President (he thought that as well, see my sig). Had he racked up some executive experience elsewhere prior to going to DC it wouldn't be an issue, he didn't. May have been a good idea for him to spend more than a few months in DC before wanting to be annointed President. Mebbe he would have a better grasp on how it works. I'm sorry, I missed in the bolded quote where you spoke of 'executive experience elsewhere'. Can you point that out please? Because, based upon your post, you're saying "how it works" in Washington is "how it works" in Texas. And, just ask Rusty Hardin how well that little assumption worked out. Still voting for Gray Davis, huh?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 28, 2009 I'm sorry, I missed in the bolded quote where you spoke of 'executive experience elsewhere'. Can you point that out please? I'll type slowly just for you Wif. You stated you were concerned about Obama getting rolled by the DC insiders. I pointed out he would have been smart to have more expereience in DC before running for President. I pointed this out because his experience in the Senate was what was suppose to convince us he was ready to be POTUS. This was an illustration of his lack of experience....I guess I should have spelled that out for the slower ones among us. You then came back with "But Bush didn't have DC experience". To which I pointed out the equally painfully obvious to anyone except the slower ones among us that Bush had executive experience in TX. Ya see, the "executive experience elsewhere" came up after you brought out your Bush Derangement Syndrome. Now, give us a Sarah Palin reference and your day will be complete. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted January 28, 2009 Obama says "No Compromise". Sorry. That made me laugh. Well played. So, back to my serious question....a link to where he says No Compromise? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted January 28, 2009 That made me laugh. Well played. I'm a bad bad man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted January 28, 2009 link to him saying no compromise? "Feel free to whack me over the head because I probably will not compromise on that part," the president replied, according to one of the aides, who requested anonymity because the member of Congress relaying information to the aide from inside the meeting wished to remain anonymous. http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/27/oba...ings/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted January 28, 2009 "Feel free to whack me over the head because I probably will not compromise on that part," the president replied, according to one of the aides, who requested anonymity because the member of Congress relaying information to the aide from inside the meeting wished to remain anonymous. http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/27/oba...ings/index.html He was speaking about a specific part of the stimulus package, not the whole thing. As a matter of fact, he seems fairly willing to make some small compromises, including getting rid of the condom thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,453 Posted January 29, 2009 Did you especially like the part where Obama told them there would be no compromise? That's why none of them voted for his stimulus package. Now, I thought the GOP made some good points but he didn't put many in the bill. At least there's a dialogue, maybe in the future if it continues it'll lead to something productive. If he wants a bipartisan administration like he says, he should do some bipartisan things. He's not going to get a lot of cooperation from moderate Republicans because there aren't many left, the most notable ones lost reelection the last couple of years. I like Obama's foreign policy especially. That's by far the easiest thing to fix. Also his transparency, his willingness to reach out to the Republican minority. I liked the promise of a sharp line between administration and government contractors but that turned out to only be a dull line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites