LittleGiants78 0 Posted April 2, 2009 no link- seeing it on NFL network as "breaking news" no terms either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdm_1971 0 Posted April 2, 2009 so what would the Broncos get? i think if the bears get cutler and draft a wr in the 1st round they could be dangerous on offense with Forte in the backfield....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pdoggs 0 Posted April 2, 2009 Just heard that as well on KOA850 here in Denver 2009 1st round and 3rd round.. 2010 1st round and Kyle Orton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dehaven123 31 Posted April 2, 2009 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/02/...l-be-a-redskin/ Just read Cutler to Skins 'imminent'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bjlmonster 0 Posted April 2, 2009 Reported also on ESPN News. Clayton to have details in a bit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted April 2, 2009 so what would the Broncos get? i think if the bears get cutler and draft a wr in the 1st round they could be dangerous on offense with Forte in the backfield....... Gotta believe if they get Cutler they wont have a first round pick left to take a WR or anything else with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdm_1971 0 Posted April 2, 2009 yeah i agree i am not sure what they gave up but for sure a 1st.....so if they still have a 2nd is there a wr that could have an impact this season anyway? i dont know if i like this move for fantasy reasons no real weapons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted April 2, 2009 Fire Childress!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted April 2, 2009 yeah i agree i am not sure what they gave up but for sure a 1st.....so if they still have a 2nd is there a wr that could have an impact this season anyway? i dont know if i like this move for fantasy reasons no real weapons I think depending on how thinks shake out on draft day, the Bears could go after a big WR target like Kenny Britt in the first few rounds. A guy like Hakeem Nicks or DHB MIGHT somehow fall and end up in Chi-town but I doubt they address WR early in the draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pdoggs 0 Posted April 2, 2009 Deal is done... per KOA Denver. 2009 1st round (18th overall) and a 3rd rounder, 2010 1st rounder and Kyle Orton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LittleGiants78 0 Posted April 2, 2009 NFL network saying Denver getting Chicago's first and third rounder this year- their first rounder next year and Kyle Orton for Cutler and Denvers fifth rounder this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windycityguy 1 Posted April 2, 2009 yeah i agree i am not sure what they gave up but for sure a 1st.....so if they still have a 2nd is there a wr that could have an impact this season anyway? i dont know if i like this move for fantasy reasons no real weapons THE BEARS DID SOME THING RIGHT !THE BEARS DID SOME THING RIGHT! THE BEARS DID SOME THING RIGHT! THE BEARS DID SOME THING RIGHT! I think now they have to sign a Holt or Harrison to line up with Hester. Hesters not great but he has speed and Orton could never hit him deep when he was open. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enis_44 0 Posted April 2, 2009 Frick. Well Eddie Royal it was a good year we had together. Now you're worthless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike FF Today 726 Posted April 2, 2009 Two first round picks? I'm sure Denver is pretty happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 2, 2009 interesting. for a franchise that has't had a qb in awhile, the price they paid isn't bad. gotta believe this pretty much seals the deal of the lions taking stafford. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdm_1971 0 Posted April 2, 2009 for a probowler i dont think 2 1st rounders is out of the question for a qb you know that can play.....the lions or somebody will be taking a chance on stafford with a high draft pick for an unproven qb i would would do this in a heartbeat!!!!!! and if they play well make the playoffs then they will be giving up a low 1st rounder next year so i think this is a good move for chicago i hate that my team is stuck with Romo!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 2, 2009 for a probowler i dont think 2 1st rounders is out of the question for a qb you know that can play.....the lions or somebody will be taking a chance on stafford with a high draft pick for an unproven qb i would would do this in a heartbeat!!!!!! and if they play well make the playoffs then they will be giving up a low 1st rounder next year so i think this is a good move for chicago i hate that my team is stuck with Romo!!!! yeah, i agree. there will be haters spinning it one way...but as a lion fan, gotta say i like the move for chicago. i'm not sure they compete right away this year...they've got some holes and they gave up some premium draft picks...but it's a good long-term move for them. i wouldn't have minded him in detroit, but detroit simply has way too many holes to be giving up multiple premium picks...especially considering they're in a position to take stafford and keep the rest of their picks. while i agree with what the bears gave up, it's also a good deal for denver. i predicted there would be a feeding frenzy for cutler and it looks like denver did maximize his value by playing the suitors off each other well. good dealing from all sides on this one, i think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,737 Posted April 2, 2009 yeah, i agree. there will be haters spinning it one way...but as a lion fan, gotta say i like the move for chicago. i'm not sure they compete right away this year...they've got some holes and they gave up some premium draft picks...but it's a good long-term move for them. i wouldn't have minded him in detroit, but detroit simply has way too many holes to be giving up multiple premium picks...especially considering they're in a position to take stafford and keep the rest of their picks. i think its a good move for them. on one hand it does suck to give away first rounders 2 years in a row as well as a 3rd rounder, but as ive been saying in the "lions should trade for cutler" debate thread, there is no saying what production you get from those draft picks, and at first round prices.. why not take a guy who has proven he can play at the NFL level... a very good defense, matt forte, cutler... all they need is another WR for him to throw to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 2, 2009 i think its a good move for them. on one hand it does suck to give away first rounders 2 years in a row as well as a 3rd rounder, but as ive been saying in the "lions should trade for cutler" debate thread, there is no saying what production you get from those draft picks, and at first round prices.. why not take a guy who has proven he can play at the NFL level... a very good defense, matt forte, cutler... all they need is another WR for him to throw to. cutler isn't without his own questions, but, yes, an (as of yet) undrafted college qb certainly has a lot more questions. the bears didn't have as many holes as the lions; as i've said, the lions need all the picks they can get...and young qb or not, they can't afford to give away 3 day-1 picks right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted April 2, 2009 cutler isn't without his own questions, but, yes, an (as of yet) undrafted college qb certainly has a lot more questions. the bears didn't have as many holes as the lions; as i've said, the lions need all the picks they can get...and young qb or not, they can't afford to give away 3 day-1 picks right now. cutler's record in games where his defense bothered to hold team to less than 21 pts??? 13-1, with the one loss coming in OT where the offense never touched the ball. kid's a gamer and McDaniels is a fockin idiot for letting him get away. Good look with Neckbeard Orton there McNugget Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 2, 2009 cutler's record in games where his defense bothered to hold team to less than 21 pts??? 13-1, with the one loss coming in OT where the offense never touched the ball. kid's a gamer and McDaniels is a fockin idiot for letting him get away. Good look with Neckbeard Orton there McNugget neckbeard...lol. hadn't heard that one before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 2, 2009 Wow. Da Bears just got ass raped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NFLisGreat79 0 Posted April 2, 2009 DA BEARRRRRRS!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Deal 0 Posted April 2, 2009 Wow. Da Bears just got ass raped. Seems they paid about the right price to me. I"m sure there was a bidding war and other teams would've paid close to that as well. How many times to 1st round draft picks end up being worth nothing. Sometimes you gotta take some chances Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mahoney 9 Posted April 2, 2009 Looks like they're about to add Orlando Pace to protect him as well... Maybe Holt will follow his former Ram teammate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted April 2, 2009 I'm thrilled with this deal. The bears still have another 3rd rounder, so that helps. Wow While Denver got good pick value, the deal throws them into rebuild mode and they will likely be a top 10 pick next year. Expect Pace to be signed and hopefully a vet WR like Holt or Harrison. Cutler should attract them somewhat. A do nothing off season was just righted with this move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
urban1 0 Posted April 2, 2009 The price is right for Chicago. Compare the picks to what Dallas paid for Roy Williams. Doesn't look so steep for a probowl QB who will touch the ball on every offensive play. Look at Cutlers contract and cap hit versus what Detroit will dish out when they draft Stafforf at number 1. Cutler didn't come cheap but Chicago got good value. From Denvers point of view it will really depend what they're able to do with the picks and if Orton or Simms can become a winner and not just be a servicable QB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 2, 2009 Seems they paid about the right price to me. I"m sure there was a bidding war and other teams would've paid close to that as well. How many times to 1st round draft picks end up being worth nothing. Sometimes you gotta take some chances Yeah, they're taking a chance all right. That's quite an understatement. If Cutler doesn't suddenly turn into Tom Brady, the Bears WAAAAAYYYYY overpaid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted April 2, 2009 THE BEARS DID SOME THING RIGHT !THE BEARS DID SOME THING RIGHT! THE BEARS DID SOME THING RIGHT! THE BEARS DID SOME THING RIGHT! I think now they have to sign a Holt or Harrison to line up with Hester. Hesters not great but he has speed and Orton could never hit him deep when he was open. I was thinking the same thing. They simple MUST bring in a WR or Cutler will be again at the start of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted April 2, 2009 Wow. Da Bears just got ass raped. no they didnt....if i hear 1 more person say..jays a crybaby, ill hurl..he had EVERY right to be bent out of shape...as did favre here.... no one called cutler a crybaby when he struggled through a season not knowing he had diabetes... so he said he has a stronger arm than elway? its pretty close and you NEED that in the chicago winds... they acquired the 1 guy that puts them back at the top with minny..that division is a 2 horse race now... they shouldve traded grossman and not orton..but thats minor... cutler is a stud and my friends in denver are rightfully ticked off about it....this has left denver with NO qb..the same idiot owner...a coach no one knows about..the best reciever cant stay out of jail or ir...good times....they can use the incomplete chants for their OWN qb now... denver is the team that got seriously raped here.... cmh must be wetting himself..... (i said it last summer...keep favre 1 more year and thats it..but let it end on good terms...team wouldve played better..and this offseason, THEY couldve had the divisions best qb in cutler...gbs loss) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roroco 75 Posted April 2, 2009 Seems they paid about the right price to me. I"m sure there was a bidding war and other teams would've paid close to that as well. How many times to 1st round draft picks end up being worth nothing. Sometimes you gotta take some chances If you outbid the Skins... You got raped... Plain and simple. No player is worth two first rounds, a third, and your QB (even with the 5th round throwaway). That was a dumb and desperate move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted April 2, 2009 I'm thrilled with this deal. The bears still have another 3rd rounder, so that helps. Wow While Denver got good pick value, the deal throws them into rebuild mode and they will likely be a top 10 pick next year. Expect Pace to be signed and hopefully a vet WR like Holt or Harrison. Cutler should attract them somewhat. A do nothing off season was just righted with this move. if pace helps the young guys just by having them learn..its worth it..and receivers CAN be found....they are everywhere..and dont the bears have a vandy guy already?.... wrs can be found..its not everyday you just get the divisions best qb.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Deal 0 Posted April 2, 2009 Yeah, they're taking a chance all right. That's quite an understatement. If Cutler doesn't suddenly turn into Tom Brady, the Bears WAAAAAYYYYY overpaid. An understatement to say they're 'taking a chance'. Whatever. First, Tom Brady would be worth a lot more than kyle orton and a couple # 1's. He doesn't need to be Tom Brady, he just needs to be a lot better than Kyle Orton. He's already proven to be a very good qb. It's really not that huge of a gamble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted April 2, 2009 Yeah, they're taking a chance all right. That's quite an understatement. If Cutler doesn't suddenly turn into Tom Brady, the Bears WAAAAAYYYYY overpaid. How did they overpay? How can you overpay for a Pro Bowl QB when they haven't had a franchise QB since Sid Luckman? So they should sit tight with their picks? Go with Orton again and go 8-8? They had enough of Orton/Grossman, and pulled the trigger. Broncos no doubt got a good price for a guy that didn't want to be there, but the Bears got possibly the most talented QB in their franchises history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted April 2, 2009 BEAR DOWN CHICAGO BEARS DA BEARSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Viqueen, Fudge-packers and lydown fans - YOU FAIL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 2, 2009 An understatement to say they're 'taking a chance'. Whatever. First, Tom Brady would be worth a lot more than kyle orton and a couple # 1's. He doesn't need to be Tom Brady, he just needs to be a lot better than Kyle Orton. He's already proven to be a very good qb. It's really not that huge of a gamble. I'm sure Brady would be worth more than 2 1st's and Kyle Orton but that's also less than the Bears just paid for Cutler. They gave up 2 1st's and a 3rd for Cutler. Orton was basically for a 5th round pick. And saying Cutler just has to be better than Orton is setting the bar about as low as possible. With those expectations, I'm sure you wont be disappointed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted April 2, 2009 If you outbid the Skins... You got raped... Plain and simple. No player is worth two first rounds, a third, and your QB (even with the 5th round throwaway). That was a dumb and desperate move. A desperate move? He is possibly the best QB in their franchise's history. What did they want to do sit tight with below average QBs and go 8-8 again? People make no sense. Did they give up a lot? Yes. But how many times are teams going to wait around draft unproven QBs and watch them bust? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 2, 2009 How did they overpay? How can you overpay for a Pro Bowl QB when they haven't had a franchise QB since Sid Luckman? So they should sit tight with their picks? Go with Orton again and go 8-8? They had enough of Orton/Grossman, and pulled the trigger. Broncos no doubt got a good price for a guy that didn't want to be there, but the Bears got possibly the most talented QB in their franchises history. Great logic. Because they haven't had a franchise QB in years, it's impossible for them to overpay. Brilliant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted April 2, 2009 For the maroons who think the Bears paid too much, just go and look at all the failed 1st round draft picks in every year's NFL draft. The list is full....Bears lost a #18 and next year they will definitely have a 1st rounder lower than that so who cares??? Also the Bears have an extra 3rd rounder this year (Comp pick) so we still have a 2nd rounder and 2 3rd rounders. Franchise QBs do NOT grow on trees. This makes the WRs, TEs, Forte, and our D so much better ..... look at what Cutler did with the shiatty Denver D .... now he gets a legit D that can force turnovers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted April 2, 2009 Great logic. Because they haven't had a franchise QB in years, it's impossible for them to overpay. Brilliant. Name me one franchise QB who is available after playing 2 years in the league .... the Bears just stabilized their position for the next 10 years. There is not much difference in talent between a mid to late 1st rounder and 3rd rounders. But there is a lot of difference between a probowl Qb and a non-probowl QB. The last time a QB this good was traded this young, it was with Favre (and even Favre was not as proven as Cutler is in this league). Get it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
