Willie Parker - Turf Toe

[FreddieMercury 0]

Rotoworld - Willie Parker

 

Any indications of whether this will keep him out of his start vs. the Chargers this week? Which one would be a better pickup if Parker can't go - Mendenhall or Mewelde Moore?

 

Thanks!

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

He's actually got Camel Turf Toe which he's had for about 2 years now.

 

Having watched the games, I'd say MeMo has more value but there's no telling if ANY of them are worth owning at this point.

[KYSteel 0]

I think Moore can produce esp in PPR. He's involved in the passing attack and had some good games last year when Parker was out. I can see FWP coming in for 1 series, gimping off the field, and MEMO getting a decent amount of touches.

 

Mendy is failage.

[Jedi Sensei 17]

Per "Rotowire" (ESPN):

 

Parker is dealing with turf toe, according to the Steelers' web site.

Spin: Parker will likely be limited in the early portions of practice this week, but is expected to be fine for Week 4 against the Chargers.

 

 

In general, I think we're going to start seeing more teams be more open about player 'injuries,' which gives us fantasy owners fits, but the reality is that players have been playing through these kinds of things all along. I'm starting Parker in all the leagues I own him.

[ed_jones 0]

He's actually got Camel Turf Toe which he's had for about 2 years now.

 

Having watched the games, I'd say MeMo has more value but there's no telling if ANY of them are worth owning at this point.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Very funny

 

 

And I agree with your assessment here.Turf Toe is a real b1tch and depending on the severity could limit Parker in a big way, after him who knows how the carries shake out.Unless I got good news about Fast Willie I would'nt start any of the Pitt guys, likely a huge timeshare this week.

[ravenwood 1]

Turf toe killed McFadden's season last year.

 

Very funny

And I agree with your assessment here.Turf Toe is a real b1tch and depending on the severity could limit Parker in a big way, after him who knows how the carries shake out.Unless I got good news about Fast Willie I would'nt start any of the Pitt guys, likely a huge timeshare this week.

[plasma george 62]

Turf toe killed McFadden's season last year.

Rushing ATT YDS TD LG

W. Parker 25 93 0 24

M. Moore 1 6 0 6

Mendhall 0 0 0 0

 

What the fock are you guys talking about ? Do you not have the Sunday Ticket so you can actually watch these games ?

 

If FWP is OK to go....he's the man in Pitts now.

 

If you're interested, $200 a man, we'll go from 10-12 owners to make room for you guys.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

This news is priceless. I'm about to prey on the weakness of an opponent who already has a bad group of backs. Now, it looks worse for him. No offense to any SWP owners out there.

[KSB2424 3,148]

I don't own Parker, but this is bad news for ones that do. He was looking like his old self again last week. Really involved in the offense. However if it is indeed turf toe then Parker (and his owners) are screwed. That is a lingering injury that will have him in and out of games all season.

[plasma george 62]

I don't own Parker, but this is bad news for ones that do. He was looking like his old self again last week. Really involved in the offense. However if it is indeed turf toe then Parker (and his owners) are screwed. That is a lingering injury that will have him in and out of games all season.

Parker is dealing with turf toe, according to the Steelers' web site.

Spin: Parker will likely be limited in the early portions of practice this week, but is expected to be fine for Week 4 against the Chargers.

 

I don't agree with the overdrama.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Parker is dealing with turf toe, according to the Steelers' web site.

Spin: Parker will likely be limited in the early portions of practice this week, but is expected to be fine for Week 4 against the Chargers.

 

I don't agree with the overdrama.

 

There may be varying degrees of turf toe, but history shows it can really put a damper on a RB, especially one that depends on quickness.

[KSB2424 3,148]

There may be varying degrees of turf toe, but history shows it can really put a damper on a RB, especially one that depends on quickness.

Yeah, obviously us schmucks sitting here are not in the Steeler training room and know the severity, but turf toe is something feirce. It's ruined guys careers before.

 

When I own a fantasy player, I hate injuries but I don't mind an ankle sprain, or a tweaked hammy, or something. But I never want to hear the terms ACL or Turf Toe.

[jerryskids 6,790]

There may be varying degrees of turf toe, but history shows it can really put a damper on a RB, especially one that depends on quickness.

Yeah, I'm no doctor but I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. Seems like turf toe is one of those things that more often than not hangs around. I'm in an interesting situation where I need to start one of FWP/MeMo/Barber/Choice. Was thinking maybe FWP presuming GTD crap with the Cowboys, but with this news, I'll probably roll with Choice.

[ed_jones 0]

Parker is dealing with turf toe, according to the Steelers' web site.

Spin: Parker will likely be limited in the early portions of practice this week, but is expected to be fine for Week 4 against the Chargers.

 

I don't agree with the overdrama.

 

 

 

I normally would agree with you here, most injuries are over-dramatized but Turf Toe is alot worse on a RB than you would think.I know it sounds like a very small injury but it can ruin a RB for a while.All depends on the severity of it, something we wont know before the game this week.

[edjr 6,580]

isn't turftoe what LT2 had last year?

[Tony_Romo_Domination 0]

Willie sucks for 2 weeks then has a break out game only to get hurt. thanks willie.......I am dumping him if he does not produce this week. No more excuses for willie

[plasma george 62]

That's exactly my point....albeit fun to speculate on these boards, unless Willie's out, you start him, and he's the only startable Pitt. RB....as of now.

[Jeff Garcia 8]

isn't turftoe what LT2 had last year?

Gates also.

[NewbieJr 541]

Hold onto Mendenhall. That's all I'm sayin'

[jerryskids 6,790]

That's exactly my point....albeit fun to speculate on these boards, unless Willie's out, you start him, and he's the only startable Pitt. RB....as of now.

Umm... no you don't. You start him if you don't have better options. He had two crap games and one good one which was largely defined by a big catch and run after Ben escaped and coverage broke down. To say FWP is a "must start" is flat out wrong. I will agree however that, pending future info, I would start Parker over Moore or Mendenhall, if I had to make that choice.

[DeaLerZ 0]

Hold onto Mendenhall. That's all I'm sayin'

 

Mendenhall sucks ... i would say hold onto Mewelde Moore... he did great in the few games he played in last year when Parker was out

[plasma george 62]

and one good one which was largely defined by a big catch and run after Ben escaped and coverage broke down. \.

Uh....25 for 93 on the ground.

[NewbieJr 541]

Mendenhall sucks ... i would say hold onto Mewelde Moore... he did great in the few games he played in last year when Parker was out

Just wait.

[NewbieJr 541]

Uh....25 for 93 on the ground.

Do you realize that that's only about 3.7 yards per carry? Well below the league average of 4.2.

[RSersen 0]

Mendenhall sucks ... i would say hold onto Mewelde Moore... he did great in the few games he played in last year when Parker was out

 

And Moore only started those games because Mendenhall was already on IR.

 

Moore did pretty well in his 4 starts last season:

 

@ JAC - 17 for 99 - 3 rec for 17 - 11 FP

@ CIN - 20 for 120, 2 TD - 5 rec for 14, 1 TD - 31 FP

vs NYG - 19 for 84, 1 TD - 2 rec for 10 - 15 FP

vs IND - 24 for 57, 2 TD - 6 rec for 48 - 22 FP

 

But I don't think he can shoulder the load and be a feature back. If he could, Minnesota would have kept him, and ADP would be playing somewhere else.

 

Pittsburgh likes him as a 3rd down back - he's not going to see significant carries unless a situation like last year unfolds were both Parker and Mendenhall can't go.

[Yippie Skippy 0]

There is no such thing as a mild case of turf toe. I just don't see Willie playing through the pain all year and performing well.

[Bones40 0]

Turf toe sucks. I had it in college for my senior season and it still bothers me 10 years later. It's a terrible injury to have. Not necessarily bad enough to keep you out of the line up a whole lot, but bad enough to make sure you are about 75% of what you would be without it.

[Runningriot1966 6]

I panic big time the first time I saw Parker run with the ball this year. I thought they had some how sneaked an old Jamal Lewis into his uniform. He is not the same player he used to be, I think Moore is the better option now. I actually cut Parker off of my team, no way in hell im gonna start him.

[Jedi Sensei 17]

"[Parker]'s got a toe injury. And it's bad enough that it kept him from practicing on Wednesday.

 

"You ever have turf toe?" Parker said Wednesday, according to Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. "Oh, it's painful; yeah it's real painful."

 

...He says he's [played through pain] before, but that he can't remember when.

 

"I just remember the pain. It's just pain, just me knowing it's there, pretty much.""

 

 

 

Ouch. Still, if I can read between the lines on this, the Steelers don't want FWP running through pain when it doesn't count and didn't make him practice today. I expect he'll be "limited" TH, F and good to go on SUN.

 

While I already didn't have great expectations for FWP this year, this just has to knock him down that much more. If you've got him as an RB2....look for a way to upgrade, soon.

[steelers2101 7]

Is Memo even worth Shonn Greene or James Davis?

[Tony_Romo_Domination 0]

I am tired of the willie parker situation. Either shut up and play or get hurt for the season so I can drop him. He stinks it up for 2 weeks then explodes for week 3. Now when he is finally startable on some level he gets turf toe.

[NewbieJr 541]

Holy crap. Can we stop talking about Parker's week 3 performance as if he "expolded"? The dude was lucky to be standing in the right place as Big Ben shook three defenders and needed someone to drop the ball off to and ran untouched for a touchdown. As for running the ball, he has 93 yards on 25 carries. That's about 3.8 yards per carry. Well below the league average. It was another lackluster performance, except Pittsburgh fed him the ball 25 times. If he onlt had 15 carries, he wouldn't have hit 60 yards. Hell, if the Steelers gave him 50 carries, he would have "exploded" for 186 yards!

 

Some explosion.

 

 

I said it before and I'll say it again....hang onto Mendenhall.

[Low Score 0]

Bones40 hit it - turf tow is painful, not enough to keep you out of the lineup but enough to affect your performance. It's really, really hard to get rid of unless you stay inactive for a long while. (think plantar fasciitis)

 

As for Parker's "breakout", it wasn't so much his stats as it was his explosion, burst and quickness displayed last Sunday that has been missing for a while. The Steelers o-line has some serious issues but Parker actually showed some of his old skills. Will he continue to show those skills - not with turf toe.

[greggorymac 0]

Holy crap. Can we stop talking about Parker's week 3 performance as if he "expolded"? The dude was lucky to be standing in the right place as Big Ben shook three defenders and needed someone to drop the ball off to and ran untouched for a touchdown. As for running the ball, he has 93 yards on 25 carries. That's about 3.8 yards per carry. Well below the league average. It was another lackluster performance, except Pittsburgh fed him the ball 25 times. If he onlt had 15 carries, he wouldn't have hit 60 yards. Hell, if the Steelers gave him 50 carries, he would have "exploded" for 186 yards!

 

Some explosion.

I said it before and I'll say it again....hang onto Mendenhall.

 

I agree with NewbieJr, or at least want to believe. Parker's performance last week wasn't anything special, he just got a lot of touches. Mendenhall's benching last week (IMHO) was more of a motivational kick in the arse rather than they think he's garbage. Again, Memo filled in great last year, but that was because both options were out. If Parker does miss time, I believe the Steelers will give Mendenhall the opportunity for Parker's carries before they give them to Memo. It really depends on how the game is going... if the Steelers are playing from behind and passing it will be the Memo show. If the Steelers have the lead and are trying to protect it, Mendenhall will get more touches. Just my two cents.

 

I just hope the Steelers are realistic about Parker's injury. If they play a dinged up ineffective Parker, then everyone loses (Parker, Mendy and Memo owners).

[VaTerp 0]

Parker's prospects of playing not looking good this week.

 

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09275/1002557-100.stm

[KYSteel 0]

Rushing ATT YDS TD LG

W. Parker 25 93 0 24

M. Moore 1 6 0 6

Mendhall 0 0 0 0

 

What the fock are you guys talking about ? Do you not have the Sunday Ticket so you can actually watch these games ?

 

If FWP is OK to go....he's the man in Pitts now.

 

If you're interested, $200 a man, we'll go from 10-12 owners to make room for you guys.

 

Can we make it $500?

 

Though I was suprised by Mendy.

[Tony_Romo_Domination 0]

willie is done. turf toe dont heal unless you are off your feet for a month at the least. willie is done.

[Me_2006 14]

There are people still dumb enough to draft Soft Willie Parker? Was Selvin Young already off the board or something?

[RSersen 0]

Pittsburgh likes him [Moore] as a 3rd down back - he's not going to see significant carries unless a situation like last year unfolds were both Parker and Mendenhall can't go.

 

Results:

 

Mendenhall - 29 carries, 165 yards, 2 TD

Moore - 2 carries, 2 yards

 

 

Tried to tell you guys. Hope you didn't drop anyone valuable while scrambling to get Moore's worthless ass.

[LoOnAtIk 75]

I think Moore can produce esp in PPR. He's involved in the passing attack and had some good games last year when Parker was out. I can see FWP coming in for 1 series, gimping off the field, and MEMO getting a decent amount of touches.

 

Mendy is failage.

 

I rolled the dice and played Mendenhall and boy am i reaping the benefits. He was a monster in college and the steelers really like him. He just needs to keep his head in the game and he could be a real stud down the road.