Tony Romo has won 6 of 16 December starts

[Phurfur 70]

And if you think the cowboys organization has been run anywhere close to as good as the colts organization your watching the same sport.

 

Cowboys have record 13 Pro Bowlers with Ellis' selection

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3221102

 

INdy never did that. So what was your excuse for Romo in 2007?

[lv_2_hack 0]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3221102

 

INdy never did that. So what was your excuse for Romo in 2007?

 

It's a popularity contest. If the cowboys and indy ended up with the same record, dallas will ALWAYS get more pro bowlers. Fock the pro bowl. That's like saying that Ohio State's Troy Smith or Florida's Tebow are better quarterbacks than Manning, Brady, or Brees because they won the Heisman.

[NewbieJr 541]

People weren't bragging that they think Trent Dilfer was some great quarterback before he won his Super Bowl. No one is saying that Romo has to win the Super Bowl before he is considered a top-level QB, but he can't be 5 out of 15 in Decemeber and winless in his career playoff games. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

 

You Romo-apologists act like he's playing for some rag-tag team who makes no effort to put talent around him. Jerry Jones is constantly signing free agents and making trades to surround him with talent. Like someone said, the guy had 12 Pro Bowlers with him a few years ago and still couldn't win a playoff game. And this year, Miles Austin has blossomed and he has a great three-back arsenal.

 

Let's drop the shtick about not having talent. Eagles lose Westbrook and Desean Jackson and McNabb still finds a way to win December games. Let's be real, people.

[KSB2424 3,148]

MAN LOVE!

What an absolutely wonderful and insightful retort to my common sense post.

[lv_2_hack 0]

People weren't bragging that they think Trent Dilfer was some great quarterback before he won his Super Bowl. No one is saying that Romo has to win the Super Bowl before he is considered a top-level QB, but he can't be 5 out of 15 in Decemeber and winless in his career playoff games. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

 

You Romo-apologists act like he's playing for some rag-tag team who makes no effort to put talent around him. Jerry Jones is constantly signing free agents and making trades to surround him with talent. Like someone said, the guy had 12 Pro Bowlers with him a few years ago and still couldn't win a playoff game. And this year, Miles Austin has blossomed and he has a great three-back arsenal.

 

Let's drop the shtick about not having talent. Eagles lose Westbrook and Desean Jackson and McNabb still finds a way to win December games. Let's be real, people.

 

 

But newbie, you still fail to realize or mention that wade phillips makes andy reid look like lombardi. Reid has owned the cowboys over the what, 8 years? Your delusional if you think that philly and cowboys records would be much different over last 2 or 3 years if mcnabb and romo were switched.

[Phurfur 70]

It's a popularity contest. If the cowboys and indy ended up with the same record, dallas will ALWAYS get more pro bowlers. Fock the pro bowl. That's like saying that Ohio State's Troy Smith or Florida's Tebow are better quarterbacks than Manning, Brady, or Brees because they won the Heisman.

 

 

I provided a link, where is yours or are you just running off at the mouth?

[Phurfur 70]

What an absolutely wonderful and insightful retort to my common sense post.

 

You protest too much.

 

MAN LOVE!

[lv_2_hack 0]

I provided a link, where is yours or are you just running off at the mouth?

 

Good comeback. I haven't ever said they didn't have talent. That's ridiculous. They have had talent. But I don't have to provide you a link that says cowboys have been the most popular team in the NFL in last 15 years to argue with you. Every story in Dallas is portrayed to such a higher degree than in Indy or New England. This moss situation is close to some of the T.O's situations except for the fact that T.O. and the cowboys had a running ticker on ESPN, and Moss has only got about 20 minutes worth of coverage.

 

Vince Young made the pro bowl in 2007. Go look at his stats and see if he deserved that honor. If your best argument is that they had 13 pro bowlers, your more of a fool than I thought you were.

[tubby_mcgee 700]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3221102

 

INdy never did that. So what was your excuse for Romo in 2007?

 

 

What's my excuse? My excuse is, that I'm not a hater, and am open minded. You're taking two things...relating them, then saying...."Explain".

 

That's like taking two fact like this, "23 soldiers were killed in Iraq today", "Obama is President" then saying "Obama must be the reason they died". Then someone arguing it, then coming back with, "Well, is it a fact or not?"

 

Or better yet:

 

"The Eagles have had over 40 opportunities to make it to and win a SB." "They have failed every single time." Repeat: EVERY FOCKING SINGLE TIME. EVERY TIME SINCE the SB started...they have F-A-I-L-E-D. So...therefore...obviously, the Eagles shouldn't be a franchise. I mean, 40+ tries? Come on. How focking pathetic is that. Really. Seriously. How can you watch? As a Cowboys fan...when we suck, we suck. Oh well. We at least know our franchise will be back there.

 

How many tries do you think the eagles should get? And why do they always fail? Seriously. 100% of the time. PFFFT! Do you really think they should just get to keep trying and failing over and over and over and over and over and over? Some of us are getting awfully sick of the stench the eagles are casting upon the NFL.

 

100%?

[tubby_mcgee 700]

People weren't bragging that they think Trent Dilfer was some great quarterback before he won his Super Bowl. No one is saying that Romo has to win the Super Bowl before he is considered a top-level QB, but he can't be 5 out of 15 in Decemeber and winless in his career playoff games. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

 

You Romo-apologists act like he's playing for some rag-tag team who makes no effort to put talent around him. Jerry Jones is constantly signing free agents and making trades to surround him with talent. Like someone said, the guy had 12 Pro Bowlers with him a few years ago and still couldn't win a playoff game. And this year, Miles Austin has blossomed and he has a great three-back arsenal.

 

Let's drop the shtick about not having talent. Eagles lose Westbrook and Desean Jackson and McNabb still finds a way to win December games. Let's be real, people.

 

 

Yep. LOL. December. I've heard a lot of owners announcing "As long as we win in December, that's good enough for me. December IS our SB. That's why we draft players, to help us win in December."

 

Fock...if the Eagles for some reason had a winning record against teams with green and purple shoelaces, you'd be arguing "Yeah...well...at least we can win vs. teams with green and purple shoelaces....."

 

 

Good enough. Take your December wins....polish 'em up and call 'em Lombardi's. I mean, so long as you're content with "your version" of the SB taking place in December, then by all means...hey party it up! Eagles just got another Lombardi! WHoooooot whooot!

[Eagles Green 34]

What's my excuse? My excuse is, that I'm not a hater, and am open minded. You're taking two things...relating them, then saying...."Explain".

 

That's like taking two fact like this, "23 soldiers were killed in Iraq today", "Obama is President" then saying "Obama must be the reason they died". Then someone arguing it, then coming back with, "Well, is it a fact or not?"

 

Or better yet:

 

"The Eagles have had over 40 opportunities to make it to and win a SB." "They have failed every single time." Repeat: EVERY FOCKING SINGLE TIME. EVERY TIME SINCE the SB started...they have F-A-I-L-E-D. So...therefore...obviously, the Eagles shouldn't be a franchise. I mean, 40+ tries? Come on. How focking pathetic is that. Really. Seriously. How can you watch? As a Cowboys fan...when we suck, we suck. Oh well. We at least know our franchise will be back there.

 

How many tries do you think the eagles should get? And why do they always fail? Seriously. 100% of the time. PFFFT! Do you really think they should just get to keep trying and failing over and over and over and over and over and over? Some of us are getting awfully sick of the stench the eagles are casting upon the NFL.

 

100%?

This is a thread about Tony Romo and his failures in December games. Why are you bringing up Dallas championships from last millenium?

 

Try to stay on topic.

[jgcrawfish 232]

i can't believe there are 4 pages of this thread. Fair or not, Romo will carry the mantle of "choker" until he has a winning december and wins a playoff game. Peyton had it and got rid of it. McNabb has it despite some success in the playoffs. Romo is what his record says he is...end of story.

[NewbieJr 541]

Fock...if the Eagles for some reason had a winning record against teams with green and purple shoelaces, you'd be arguing "Yeah...well...at least we can win vs. teams with green and purple shoelaces....."

Good enough. Take your December wins....polish 'em up and call 'em Lombardi's. I mean, so long as you're content with "your version" of the SB taking place in December, then by all means...hey party it up! Eagles just got another Lombardi! WHoooooot whooot!

Are you seriously back to talking about Aikman and Emmitt's Super Bowl teams? Wow. That's real relevant in a Romo-chokes thread. It just shows how sad and desperate you really are. You do realize that Dallas no longer has any players that were on those championship teams, right? I guess the Oakland A's should feel content because they also won championships with Jose Canseco, Mike Norris, and Terry Steinbach.

 

Maybe I should bring up Norm Van Brocklin's NFL Championships if we're talking about ancient history.

[Phurfur 70]

i can't believe there are 4 pages of this thread. Fair or not, Romo will carry the mantle of "choker" until he has a winning december and wins a playoff game. Peyton had it and got rid of it. McNabb has it despite some success in the playoffs. Romo is what his record says he is...end of story.

 

 

Tony Romo is a Cowboy, he doesn't have to prove anything. Just being a Cowboy makes him great, ask Danny White.

[sirensong 111]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3221102

 

INdy never did that. So what was your excuse for Romo in 2007?

 

the team failed. indy stepped up as a team, and the cowboys didn't.

 

and it may be important to remember that the cowboys lost to the super bowl champion--the best team in the league that year. so your attempt to dismiss romo actually equates him with brady--both lost to the giants in the 2007 playoffs. romo just did it earlier.

 

so is that what you're saying? that romo and brady were both chokers in 2007?

[Phurfur 70]

the team failed. indy stepped up as a team, and the cowboys didn't.

 

and it may be important to remember that the cowboys lost to the super bowl champion--the best team in the league that year. so your attempt to dismiss romo actually equates him with brady--both lost to the giants in the 2007 playoffs. romo just did it earlier.

 

so is that what you're saying? that romo and brady were both chokers in 2007?

 

 

Romo lost at home after a bye week. HTH

[NewbieJr 541]

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This is a list of all the teams that have a better record than the Cowboys in the past 13 years in the postseason. 26 of 32 teams (81% of the NFL).

But they won Super Bowls in the early 90's.

 

Americas team my ass.

[lv_2_hack 0]

Peyton was 0-2 in the playoffs after his first 4 years as a starter. Romo hasn't been a starter for 4 years. The cowboys as an organization haven't done anything in the playoffs or december. But you are blaming it all on Romo. And it's not right. Blame it on the cowboys in general. That's fine. But it's not all Romo's fault. Nor is most of it.

[NewbieJr 541]

Peyton was 0-2 in the playoffs after his first 4 years as a starter. Romo hasn't been a starter for 4 years. The cowboys as an organization haven't done anything in the playoffs or december. But you are blaming it all on Romo. And it's not right. Blame it on the cowboys in general. That's fine. But it's not all Romo's fault. Nor is most of it.

Look at the bright side. When and if the Cowboys ever win the Super Bowl with Romo at quarterback, he'll also get more credit than he probably deserves. It works both ways.

[mambokings 0]

Romo is snakebit, to be sure, but the Cowboys as a team hold the blame for their December failures. That said, Romo isn't a leader. He may be goofy and like-able as a teammate, but he's too unfocused to ever lead this team anywhere. He needs to assume greater responsibility than his teammates and demonstrate the standard they should try to live up to. He doesn't command that type of following because he remains "just one of the guys". Romo approaches the position with the same intensity and commitment as a kicker. Unless he grows up, the Cowboys are doomed for as long as he's under Center.

[lv_2_hack 0]

Look at the bright side. When and if the Cowboys ever win the Super Bowl with Romo at quarterback, he'll also get more credit than he probably deserves. It works both ways.

 

I hundred percent agree. But for you to put it all on him isn't right. That's all i've been trying to say.

[Sho Nuff 720]

But you are blaming it all on Romo. And it's not right.

 

TO, is that you?

That's my quarterback....

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

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This is a list of all the teams that have a better record than the Cowboys in the past 13 years in the postseason. 26 of 32 teams (81% of the NFL).

But they won Super Bowls in the early 90's.

 

Americas team my ass.

 

 

they won more titles than the eagles ever will. They also still have the most playoff wins of any team and they took a 13 year break.

[Phurfur 70]

Peyton was 0-2 in the playoffs after his first 4 years as a starter. Romo hasn't been a starter for 4 years. The cowboys as an organization haven't done anything in the playoffs or december. But you are blaming it all on Romo. And it's not right. Blame it on the cowboys in general. That's fine. But it's not all Romo's fault. Nor is most of it.

 

 

This is Romo's 7th year quit sugar coating it.

[jgcrawfish 232]

they won more titles than the eagles ever will. They also still have the most playoff wins of any team and they took a 13 year break.

 

you're a chickensh!t. i post stats for you, i don't show up in the thread for 2 days. complete waste of flesh...

[tubby_mcgee 700]

you're a chickensh!t. i post stats for you, i don't show up in the thread for 2 days. complete waste of flesh...

 

 

Sounds like you're a bit upset because the Cowboys are in your head too?

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

you're a chickensh!t. i post stats for you, i don't show up in the thread for 2 days. complete waste of flesh...

Defense, Phillips Not Romo To Blame For This December.

 

I also posted stats that clearly showed romo has a qb rating over 110 in each of the two december losses this year.

 

In the past it was the result of poor defensive play. Lets be real, a qb is only as good as his D. If a defense cant stop a team the qb gets tagged with the loss when it was really his crappy defense who sucked and lost the game.

 

Peyton Manning is 7-8 in the playoffs................Playoff slide........January slide........

 

Carson palmer has never even won a playoff game and his teams suck come December. Oh no.........december slide for the bengals.

 

Aaron Rodgers has never had a winning season, played a playoff game of won one. His decembers are bad. Lets talk about the rodgers december slide.

 

Hey did you hear about Eli manning......what is his december record at home?

 

Manning has a 5-9 record at home in December and January in his six NFL seasons.

 

5-9 at home in december and january. wow. this is home games. eli is an astoundingly pathetic 5-9 at home.

[Phurfur 70]

Sounds like you're a bit upset because the Cowboys are in your head too?

 

Ice Bowl Ice Bowl Ice Bowl

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

Sounds like you're a bit upset because the Cowboys are in your head too?

[jgcrawfish 232]

Sounds like you're a bit upset because the Cowboys are in your head too?

 

the only thing that bothers me about the cowboys are their d-bag fans (like you) and the fact they have a better record than the Steelers. I take solace in the fact that the Steelers won more playoff games last year than the Cowboys have in the last 15 yrs.

[lv_2_hack 0]

This is Romo's 7th year quit sugar coating it.

 

Starter. Starter. Starter. Starter. You keep posting this 0-2 in the playoffs. His teams have made the playoffs in 3 of the last 4 years. Did brady play as a rookie? No. Favre? No. I'm a cowboys homer and would love for this team to lose it's next 3 games, so that way Jerry will bring in shanahan or cowher and bring in a proven, tough coach to light a fire under this team.

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

the only thing that bothers me about the cowboys are their d-bag fans (like you) and the fact they have a better record than the Steelers. I take solace in the fact that the Steelers won more playoff games last year than the Cowboys have in the last 15 yrs.

and yet the stealers still have less total playoff wins than dallas and dallas has taken a 13 year break.

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

Starter. Starter. Starter. Starter. You keep posting this 0-2 in the playoffs. Cuz he's only played in 2 playoff games. His teams have made the playoffs in 3 of the last 4 years. Did brady play as a rookie? No. Favre? No. I'm a cowboys homer and would love for this team to lose it's next 3 games, so that way Jerry will bring in shanahan or cowher and bring in a proven, tough coach to light a fire under this team.

hey, this could be used against packer homers. They claim romo has been a qb for 7 years so just bash rodgers for being a qb for longer than his two years as starter. Rodgers has no playoff appearances in 5 years. WOw. someone start a thread.....5 years and not one single playoff game much less a playoff win.

[Phurfur 70]

Starter. Starter. Starter. Starter. You keep posting this 0-2 in the playoffs. Cuz he's only played in 2 playoff games. His teams have made the playoffs in 3 of the last 4 years. Did brady play as a rookie? No. Favre? No. I'm a cowboys homer and would love for this team to lose it's next 3 games, so that way Jerry will bring in shanahan or cowher and bring in a proven, tough coach to light a fire under this team.

 

Yes, because he could not beat out the aging human statue which is Drew Bledsoe.

 

Way to prove my point.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Defense, Phillips Not Romo To Blame For This December.

 

I also posted stats that clearly showed romo has a qb rating over 110 in each of the two december losses this year.

 

In the past it was the result of poor defensive play. Lets be real, a qb is only as good as his D. If a defense cant stop a team the qb gets tagged with the loss when it was really his crappy defense who sucked and lost the game.

 

Aaron Rodgers has never had a winning season, played a playoff game of won one. His decembers are bad. Lets talk about the rodgers december slide.

 

Did the Dallas defense make Romo and the offense go 1-8 on 3rd down this past game?

Was it the Dallas defense that scored a whopping 10 points until the offense finally got it to 17 with SD in the prevent with a 10 point lead?

Even the missed FG, since you like to blame Folk...was on a drive of a big time 3 yards after the defense got the ball back for Dallas.

And Rodgers and the Packers are 9-4 right now, assuring him of a winning season.

And prior to the last 2 games, which the Packers have won...Rodgers was in his first year as a starter and went 1-3.

So he is now 3-3 in December in his 2 years starting.

As usual, you are a complete and total fail.

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

Yes, because he could not beat out the aging human statue which is Drew Bledsoe.

 

Way to prove my point.

he could beat him.......the coaches refused to see the truth. it was coaching mistakes not lack of talent.

[Phurfur 70]

hey, this could be used against packer homers. They claim romo has been a qb for 7 years so just bash rodgers for being a qb for longer than his two years as starter. Rodgers has no playoff appearances in 5 years. WOw. someone start a thread.....5 years and not one single playoff game much less a playoff win.

 

 

As a Packer fan I see nothing wrong with this statement because it is true. We make our QBs earn their recognition. Thanks for proving my point.

[jgcrawfish 232]

and yet the stealers still have less total playoff wins than dallas and dallas has taken a 13 year break.

 

and yet despite less playoff wins, they have more Lombardi's than the Cowgirls. You're not gonna win when it comes to stats. The Steelers are THE most successful franchise of the Superbowl Era. Most SB wins, most wins overall. The Cowboys are "also rans". Thanks for playing.

[Phurfur 70]

he could beat him.......the coaches refused to see the truth. it was coaching mistakes not lack of talent.

 

 

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

Did the Dallas defense make Romo and the offense go 1-8 on 3rd down this past game?

Was it the Dallas defense that scored a whopping 10 points until the offense finally got it to 17 with SD in the prevent with a 10 point lead?

Even the missed FG, since you like to blame Folk...was on a drive of a big time 3 yards after the defense got the ball back for Dallas.

And Rodgers and the Packers are 9-4 right now, assuring him of a winning season.

And prior to the last 2 games, which the Packers have won...Rodgers was in his first year as a starter and went 1-3.

So he is now 3-3 in December in his 2 years starting.

As usual, you are a complete and total fail.

ok. but rodgers has been in the nfl for 5 years and was not good enough to start for three of those years and his first year he lost badly. Has A rod ever even been to the playoffs as a starter?

 

You do realize you are trashing a qb who got to 100 tds faster than every qb except three guys. A guy with a carerr qb rating in the mid 90's