Good job, Mississippi

[jets24 6]

Where does it stop? What if I want to bring two girls to the prom? Are they infringing on my rights? What if I want to bring my dog to the prom? Aren't they infringing against my rights as a dog lover? This is High School. There must be set guidelines for all to follow. These are kids for crying out loud. Are both girls seniors? Couldn't they have both just gone by themselves and met at the prom? So what that she can't wear a tux. I wouldn't want to see that anymore than a guy wearing a dress to the prom. There is no other way to look at it. This girl has ruined the prom for all those kids.

[jerryskids 7,199]

Actually, that's kinda the point I was driving at. At one time blacks were not afforded equal rights as whites. Through the civil rights movement, this has been changed. But looking back at history, we're kinda appalled at how people were treated back then.

 

This is not to say gays endure nearly as much as blacks did back in the day...they don't....not even close. But that doesn't mean there isn't a different interpretation to rules...laws...justice....for gays as for straights.

I know that that was your point. And I fully expect to see civil rights protection for gheys in my lifetime. It faces a few hurdles though:

- As RP was trying to point out, albeit in an ass way: at the end of the day the objection is the behavior, not the attitude. You cannot NOT be black (except Michael Jackson, that didn't work out well). You cannot NOT be Irish. But you can NOT exhibit ghey behaviors.

- Which brings up the "nature vs. nurture" discussion, which has not been concluded either way. But even if it were, by logic, a predisposition to a behavior does not mean the behavior is acceptable. You might be predisposed to molest young children, for instance. I'm not equating the two behaviors of course.

- A bunch of bible-thumping religious zealots hate them. They still have a powerful lobby.

 

Personally I don't care, other than a slight concern about adopting children which we've gone through and don't need to rehash. My cousin was ghey. My kids have had ghey teachers. In taekwondo a bunch of the women I know are ghey. Doesn't really matter to me.

[FeelingMN 273]

You are the one telling us the meaning of werds. I just thought I would give you the opportunity to show us your meaning in the actual definition of the werd.

 

Since you say that the rule applies the same to all students, I thought I'd point out the difference between homosexuals and heterosexuals....because a rule that stipulates that students attend with opposite sex dates does not apply the same way to homosexuals...they have to adjust their behavior.....heteros don't. Therefore the rule is not applied the same.

 

The rule excludes "gay" students from attending with their dates, right? If they want to attend, they have to do so with a friend. So heterosexuals can attend with a date....and homos can arrive with a friend so as to not rock the boat. How very seperate but equal.

[FeelingMN 273]

I know that that was your point. And I fully expect to see civil rights protection for gheys in my lifetime. It faces a few hurdles though:

- As RP was trying to point out, albeit in an ass way: at the end of the day the objection is the behavior, not the attitude. You cannot NOT be black (except Michael Jackson, that didn't work out well). You cannot NOT be Irish. But you can NOT exhibit ghey behaviors.

- Which brings up the "nature vs. nurture" discussion, which has not been concluded either way. But even if it were, by logic, a predisposition to a behavior does not mean the behavior is acceptable. You might be predisposed to molest young children, for instance. I'm not equating the two behaviors of course.

- A bunch of bible-thumping religious zealots hate them. They still have a powerful lobby.

 

Personally I don't care, other than a slight concern about adopting children which we've gone through and don't need to rehash. My cousin was ghey. My kids have had ghey teachers. In taekwondo a bunch of the women I know are ghey. Doesn't really matter to me.

 

 

I don't always agree with the sh!t you say, but I can respect that you at least think things through.

[NewbieJr 541]

Where does it stop? What if I want to bring two girls to the prom? Are they infringing on my rights? What if I want to bring my dog to the prom? Aren't they infringing against my rights as a dog lover? This is High School. There must be set guidelines for all to follow. These are kids for crying out loud. Are both girls seniors? Couldn't they have both just gone by themselves and met at the prom? So what that she can't wear a tux. I wouldn't want to see that anymore than a guy wearing a dress to the prom. There is no other way to look at it. This girl has ruined the prom for all those kids.

I agree that the girls should have just met there and not made a big deal out of it, but the fact remains that the townspeople and the school are so backwood-hillbilly that they couldn't accept something that is commonplace in most developed cities.

 

And I'd still love to hear one person explain who and what it would have hurt to have the two girls go there together. It's one thing to be an old, antiquated bigot, but to post it on a billboard for everyone to see is mind-boggling.

[jgcrawfish 232]

So if you're out with some buddies or a girlfriend/wife at a nightclub, and there's a lesbian couple there featuring one of them who dresses like a guy, it really throws you that much and ruins your good time? Is that what you're trying to say?

 

Oh hell now, I'm all for it. I don't give a crap if the start 69'ing right there on the dance floor...even better. Now, 2 boys going at it, well, yeah, I'm gonna walk away and maybe complain...hypocritical? Sure, admittedly.

 

Why are you bringing up legislation? No one is advocating legislating for the exception.

 

It seems to me you're arguing in my favor. Why the fock is the school going out of its way to establish rules inhibiting homosexuality....in an effort to preserve safety and well being? Seems unneccesary to me, wouldn't you agree? Especially under those pretenses....safety and well being....psshhh.

 

And I find some drunk 17 year old who can't handle his liquor well, so he throws up all over my date's dress because he drank too much of daddy's schnaaps. I find that offensive....are you advocating we go down that road? That we make up rules against anything that anyone might find offensive?

 

Fact is there are lesbians in the world....deal with it....you're not going to make them go away by making stupid rules against them....you're not going to make the world a better place by covering your children's eyes to reality. But that's the vibe I get from these fockers. Make the rules to mask reality....there's no such thing as lesbians....there's no such thing as anyone different....there's just good God fearing...straight....folk. Don't question anything.....just accept whatever we tell you is right.

 

BS, the school is doing just that, legislating for the majority, hence reason for the date must be opposite sex rule. And your example of some 17 yr old is bunk, because he's already got legislation against him, mainly underage drinking and probably something in the school rules about being drunk at a school function.

[SUXBNME 1,629]

I suppose that CH wants schools to get rid of dress codes now.

 

 

ANARCHY

[Chronic Husker 86]

Again, you speak as if you know something about this, which you obviously don't. Unless you are on the School Board. Are you on the School Board?

 

They may very well feel that they have a strong case but not worth the expense, embarrassment, etc. as it relates to the rest of the students. Why would any school want to spend money for a fight like this? Things have changed. We had a girl that quit from my company and then demanded $10K for a hostile work environment. The girl is batsh!t crazy and had no leg to stand on. You know what happened? Our insurance company immediately settled because it would have cost more to fight. That's our country in a nutshell these days. ACLU has unlimited funds and just love fighting these types of fights. Can't blame the school for not fighting and cancelling the prom. It's just not worth it anymore.

 

Nice argument.

 

 

The Christian right-wing wants to discriminate against gays. When the repressed go to the ACLU, gaybashers claim "attention whooring". Then, when discriminating institution backs down from discriminating policy instead of fighting ACLU in court, gay-bashing apologists plead they're in the poor house vs. ACLU and it's just not worth the fight.

 

 

Here's an idea. How about you backwoods focks simply stop discriminating against gays? No more lawsuits, no more media. Or continue the beaten path and discriminate until the legal system gets into it and you get your asses handed to you in court (again).

[jgcrawfish 232]

I suppose that CH wants schools to get rid of dress codes now.

 

 

ANARCHY

 

probably, let the friggin loonies run the asylum. spare me from whackjobs and the gay agenda.

[Chronic Husker 86]

 

I don't always agree with the sh!t you say, but I can respect that you at least think things through.

[SUXBNME 1,629]

probably, let the friggin loonies run the asylum. spare me from whackjobs and the gay agenda.

It's really no different.

[Chronic Husker 86]

Where does it stop? What if I want to bring two girls to the prom? Are they infringing on my rights? What if I want to bring my dog to the prom? Aren't they infringing against my rights as a dog lover? This is High School. There must be set guidelines for all to follow. These are kids for crying out loud. Are both girls seniors? Couldn't they have both just gone by themselves and met at the prom? So what that she can't wear a tux. I wouldn't want to see that anymore than a guy wearing a dress to the prom. There is no other way to look at it. This girl has ruined the prom for all those kids.

Nice to see you continue with the standard Christian line against gays.

 

 

Throw homosexuality in with polygamy and beastiality. I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't include pedophilia.

 

[jgcrawfish 232]

Nice to see you continue with the standard Christian line against gays.

 

 

Throw homosexuality in with polygamy and beastiality. I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't include pedophilia.

 

 

deviant behaviors, all.

[NewbieJr 541]

deviant behaviors, all.

signed,

1953

[jerryskids 7,199]

signed,

1953

Main Entry: de·vi·ant

Pronunciation: \-ənt\

Function: adjective

Date: 15th century

 

: deviating especially from an accepted norm <deviant behavior>

 

How is it not deviant?

[BunnysBastatrds 2,711]

Here's an idea. How about you backwoods focks simply stop discriminating against gays? No more lawsuits, no more media. Or continue the beaten path and discriminate until the legal system gets into it and you get your asses handed to you in court (again).

 

 

"Backwood focks". Do you think this only happens in the south?

 

And as far as them getting their asses handed to them in court, I'm thinking that a jury in a small town like that in Mississippi leans a bit to the right.

[jgcrawfish 232]

"Backwood focks". Do you think this only happens in the south?

 

And as far as them getting their asses handed to them in court, I'm thinking that a jury in a small town like that in Mississippi leans a bit to the right.

 

so does my johnson

[jgcrawfish 232]

signed,

1953

 

signed,

the gay agenda

[jets24 6]

Nice to see you continue with the standard Christian line against gays.

 

 

Throw homosexuality in with polygamy and beastiality. I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't include pedophilia.

 

 

Really? The standard Christian line against gays is what again? Nice job not answering the question.

 

I'm still waiting for an answer.

[NewbieJr 541]

signed,

the gay agenda

I could care less about the gays, as long as they stay away from me. If Joe wants to marry Larry, more power to them. It affects me zero percent. The great thing about them is that they can't reproduce. So we don't have to worry about passing on the gene.

 

What I do care about are the old curmudgeons that would raise such a stink about the girls going to a prom together that the rest of the poor students have to suffer and not have their prom.

[jets24 6]

Nice argument.

 

 

The Christian right-wing wants to discriminate against gays. When the repressed go to the ACLU, gaybashers claim "attention whooring". Then, when discriminating institution backs down from discriminating policy instead of fighting ACLU in court, gay-bashing apologists plead they're in the poor house vs. ACLU and it's just not worth the fight.

 

 

Here's an idea. How about you backwoods focks simply stop discriminating against gays? No more lawsuits, no more media. Or continue the beaten path and discriminate until the legal system gets into it and you get your asses handed to you in court (again).

 

 

That's twice now that you mentioned Christian right wing this and that. Why bring that into it? Who brought that up? I'm guessing there are many Jews and Muslims that don't support specific gay rights. Your ignorance is showing.

[Chronic Husker 86]

"Backwood focks". Do you think this only happens in the south?

 

And as far as them getting their asses handed to them in court, I'm thinking that a jury in a small town like that in Mississippi leans a bit to the right.

It doesn't matter if it's in the south or not, though both of the recent cases of note have been in Alabama and Mississippi. If someone is discriminated against in New York or Cali, wherever, the ACLU will take their ass to court, too. Alabama and Mississippi don't seem to get it - yet.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-0...ssissippi_N.htm

 

The case has been filed to a federal court. I'm not a legal expert but I'm pretty sure there will be no jury to decide this. I think it will go before a judge that will force the school to put the prom back on and allow McMillan to come with whoever she wants.

[FeelingMN 273]

How is it not deviant?

 

Masturbation was....hell, probably still is considered a deviant form of behavior....I'm looking at you Mississippi. And yet it's completely natural.

 

[NewbieJr 541]

That's twice now that you mentioned Christian right wing this and that. Why bring that into it? Who brought that up? I'm guessing there are many Jews and Muslims that don't support specific gay rights. Your ignorance is showing.

Not sure if we're still on the prom-subject or if this has evolved into a gay marriage thread.

 

While I agree that gay marriage brings on other debates and concerns, such as benefits, insurance, etc., is there anyone here, even the most ardent discriminating guys, who really feel strongly that these two girls shouldn't have been allowed to go to the prom together, even to the extent of cancelling the whole thing and not allowing anyone to have their prom?

 

If so, please explain the possible damage done by this.

[NewbieJr 541]

It doesn't matter if it's in the south or not, though both of the recent cases of note have been in Alabama and Mississippi. If someone is discriminated against in New York or Cali, wherever, the ACLU will take their ass to court, too. Alabama and Mississippi don't seem to get it - yet.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-0...ssissippi_N.htm

 

The case has been filed to a federal court. I'm not a legal expert but I'm pretty sure there will be no jury to decide this. I think it will go before a judge that will force the school to put the prom back on and allow McMillan to come with whoever she wants.

Those states (Alabama, Missippippi) are literally thrirty years behind developed states. It's mind boggling.

[Chronic Husker 86]

That's twice now that you mentioned Christian right wing this and that. Why bring that into it? Who brought that up? I'm guessing there are many Jews and Muslims that don't support specific gay rights. Your ignorance is showing.

You're right. It's the Jews and Muslims in Alabama and Mississippi that are calling prom off instead of allowing two girls to go to the dance together.

[NewbieJr 541]

You're right. It's the Jews and Muslims in Alabama and Mississippi that are calling prom off instead of allowing two girls to go to the dance together.

Can you even imagine this happening, or even being an issue, in NYC, Chicago, Philly, etc? It blows your mind when you read about these backwoods places and their antiquated ways of thinking.

[FeelingMN 273]

Can you even imagine this happening, or even being an issue, in NYC, Chicago, Philly, etc? It blows your mind when you read about these backwoods places and their antiquated ways of thinking.

 

Ignorance isn't any kind of thinking....antiquated or otherwise.

[jets24 6]

Not sure if we're still on the prom-subject or if this has evolved into a gay marriage thread.

 

While I agree that gay marriage brings on other debates and concerns, such as benefits, insurance, etc., is there anyone here, even the most ardent discriminating guys, who really feel strongly that these two girls shouldn't have been allowed to go to the prom together, even to the extent of cancelling the whole thing and not allowing anyone to have their prom?

 

If so, please explain the possible damage done by this.

 

 

It's not so much as allowing the girls to the prom. That's fine. It's the fact of the tux wearing from the girls. Now, we're going to have a bunch of guys dressing up in dresses just to fock with the system and eventually causing a disturbance at what is supposed to be one of the best nights of their lives.

[jets24 6]

You're right. It's the Jews and Muslims in Alabama and Mississippi that are calling prom off instead of allowing two girls to go to the dance together.

 

Yeah. That's exactly what I said.

[Chronic Husker 86]

It's not so much as allowing the girls to the prom. That's fine. It's the fact of the tux wearing from the girls. Now, we're going to have a bunch of guys dressing up in dresses just to fock with the system and eventually causing a disturbance at what is supposed to be one of the best nights of their lives.

Plus, they'll start bringing two girls! Plus, they'll start bringing dogs!

[BunnysBastatrds 2,711]

A friend of a friend went to Disney World a few years back. He's a very religous man who doesn't like anything he's told not to like. Anyway, he contacted Disney and arranged to stay at one of their nice hotels on the grounds. Booked his reservations for various other things and was all set to bring the family to Disney for the first time. He gets there and it's gay week. When he was checking into the hotel, he complained to the desk clerk that no one told him it was gay week when he made his reservations. Had he known, he wouldn't have come that week with his family. A gay guy checking in next to him pinched him on his ass and told him, "It's a small world after all." He freaked the fawk out. He demanded to know why he wasn't told about gay week. He was told then that it was not Disneys policy to do so. He demanded he be reimbursed and was denied. They told him to enjoy his vacation and deal with it. He ended up settling with Disney and they now let straight vacationers know it's gay week.

 

Is it Disneys obligation to tell straight folks that 100,000 gays will be there?

[KSB2424 3,174]

Can you even imagine this happening, or even being an issue, in NYC, Chicago, Philly, etc? It blows your mind when you read about these backwoods places and their antiquated ways of thinking.

I don't really care either way. However the people of California voted down ghey marriage.

[NewbieJr 541]

It's not so much as allowing the girls to the prom. That's fine. It's the fact of the tux wearing from the girls. Now, we're going to have a bunch of guys dressing up in dresses just to fock with the system and eventually causing a disturbance at what is supposed to be one of the best nights of their lives.

Really? That's the big deal? Wow.

[jets24 6]

Can you even imagine this happening, or even being an issue, in NYC, Chicago, Philly, etc? It blows your mind when you read about these backwoods places and their antiquated ways of thinking.

 

 

Ummm...it is an issue.

[NewbieJr 541]

I don't really care either way. However the people of California voted down ghey marriage.

Gay marriage is an entirely different universe than this silly prom date thing. Marriage is a legal contract that involves money, insurance pay outs, pensions, etc. We're talking about tow high schoolers wanting to go to a dance.

[NewbieJr 541]

Ummm...it is an issue.

Ummm, yeah. In Buttfock, Mississippi.

[jgcrawfish 232]

Not sure if we're still on the prom-subject or if this has evolved into a gay marriage thread.

 

While I agree that gay marriage brings on other debates and concerns, such as benefits, insurance, etc., is there anyone here, even the most ardent discriminating guys, who really feel strongly that these two girls shouldn't have been allowed to go to the prom together, even to the extent of cancelling the whole thing and not allowing anyone to have their prom?

 

If so, please explain the possible damage done by this.

 

are you really this dense? it's less about the girls that it is about EVERYBODY else. You're pointing out that Mississippi is 30 years behind the rest of the world, then wondering why it is that people there would feel strongly about two girls attending prom as a couple. It doesn't matter what I think, or what anybody else here thinks for that matter. It matters what the people who are directly affected by it think. And those "behind by 30 years" people still have conservative beliefs, and they make their rules and laws according to what the majority of the people believe there. If you don't like it, you can leave. But don't ask someone to change something just for you at the expense of what the vast majority wants. I don't believe I should be limited to driving 55 mph, perhaps I should call the ACLU and get them to point out how I'm being discriminated against because I'm a speed freak.

 

Face facts, you and your metrosexual frosty tips are offended by anybody wanting to regulate the gay meter.

[FeelingMN 273]

It's not so much as allowing the girls to the prom. That's fine. It's the fact of the tux wearing from the girls. Now, we're going to have a bunch of guys dressing up in dresses just to fock with the system and eventually causing a disturbance at what is supposed to be one of the best nights of their lives.

 

Were you never 17 years old or something?

 

Also, I'd be interested....well, not really....in hearing the backstory here. Any gal willing to show up at prom in a tux probably has been seen around school doing some other crap. None of this has ocurred in a vacuum....there's other details that aren't being discussed.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,711]

Those states (Alabama, Missippippi) are literally thrirty years behind developed states. It's mind boggling.

 

 

How so? Developed states like California and New Jersey? Two states that are so bankrupt because of their progresiveness? What's mind boggling is people like yourself who still believe in stereotypes. When was the last time you went to Mississippi or Alabama?