Panel Clears Way for Mosque Near Ground Zero

[drobeski 3,061]

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Read, learn...you ass lip liberals crying for tolerance of the most intolerant religion in the history of the planet.

 

Get a focking clue ass clowns.

[tikigods 76]

You think owning property gives you the right to construct whatever you like? LOL....

 

This is why there are zoning laws. As a libertarian, I do believe people should be able to do pretty much whatever they want to do with their own property...with in reason.

[MDC 7,561]

True. I also don't think it's a good idea to build a strip club next to a public school. Just saying.

 

I guarantee you this is a lot less important to New Yorkers than it is to the national media and GOP politicians and pundits, trying to stir up xenophobic outrage for votes.

[MDC 7,561]

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Read, learn...you ass lip liberals crying for tolerance of the most intolerant religion in the history of the planet.

 

Get a focking clue ass clowns.

 

Nice point man, we should be just as intolerant as the most intolerant religion on the planet - great point from a true patriot.

[drobeski 3,061]

Nice point man, we should be just as intolerant as the most intolerant religion on the planet - great point from a true patriot.

Outlawing it may be a better solution

[Voice_Of_Reason 0]

Your religion or color of skin doesn't make you more american.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boO4RowROiw

[DankNuggs 305]

Nice point man, we should be just as intolerant as the most intolerant religion on the planet - great point from a true patriot.

You'd prefer to tickle their balls as they pound you in the cornhole...

 

 

The reason this building is being built is because of 9/11. Period. Because of that reason, it is insensitve to americans o build it..

 

 

Where the ###### is NIMBY when you need it?

[MDC 7,561]

Outlawing it may be a better solution

 

What a focking dope you are.

[tikigods 76]

I guarantee you this is a lot less important to New Yorkers than it is to the national media and GOP politicians and pundits, trying to stir up xenophobic outrage for votes.

 

Probably true. The media does love a good story like this to stir up xenophobic outrage. However, in this case, I do agree with people that don't think it's a good idea. Ultimately they'll get their mosque and teach their people, who attend the mosque, that America is an evil, evil nation. Sort of like public schools.

[MDC 7,561]

You'd prefer to tickle their balls as they pound you in the cornhole...

 

Why are GOPers obsessed with butt-secks? Is it because so many of you are closet queers?

[DanXIII 8]

It's private property.

 

[mobb_deep 920]

Nice point man, we should be just as intolerant as the most intolerant religion on the planet - great point from a true patriot.

 

LOFL... well done!

 

Newsflash bible thumpers... ALL Religions are intolerant. Being intolerant is at the very core of having a belief in god. One set of wacko's believe they're going to heaven (or whatever the equivalent) and everyone else is going to hell (or whatever equivalent). The other set of wacko's believe the exact opposite. In both cases god himself is pretty focking intolerant of anyone that doesn't buy into his antics. He could use a few bucks though. Cash preferred.

[DankNuggs 305]

I guarantee you this is a lot less important to New Yorkers than it is to the national media and GOP politicians and pundits, trying to stir up xenophobic outrage for votes.

 

I imagine it must be an acute pain for NYers who went through such an damaging ordeal both physically and emotionally.

 

 

Guantanamo has arrows pointing to Mecca in every jailcell now, Obama is flagrantly pro-palestinian, Netanyahu has long given up trying to deal with him... Our administration supports all this... And Bloomberg is too busy pal'ing around with Charlie Rangel to pay much attention... Its all dirty and it all has to go.

[DankNuggs 305]

Why are GOPers obsessed with butt-secks? Is it because so many of you are closet queers?

Your opinions are stronger than your intelligence, its a bad combination.

[MDC 7,561]

I imagine it must be an acute pain for NYers who went through such an damaging ordeal both physically and emotionally.

 

My family is in NYC and North Jersey and nobody I know gives a chit. There were mosques within blocks of Ground Zero long before 9/11 and they're still there.

 

All this phony concern for the feelings of New Yorkers is an issue invented by GOP pundits and politicians to rile up the rubes for this fall. FOX News makes this out to be a major issue but the overwhelming majority of New Yorkers really couldn't care less.

[drobeski 3,061]

What a focking dope you are.

Hey aren't you libs supposed to be all about equality, equal rights, tolerance etc.?

You do realize this so called religions fundamental being is completely the opposite right ?

Hypocrites much ?

[DankNuggs 305]

My family is in NYC and North Jersey and nobody I know gives a chit. There were mosques within blocks of Ground Zero long before 9/11 and they're still there.

 

All this phony concern for the feelings of New Yorkers is an issue invented by GOP pundits and politicians to rile up the rubes for this fall. FOX News makes this out to be a major issue but the overwhelming majority of New Yorkers really couldn't care less.

Your opinion doesn't matter... and i presume you got your opinion from your family, which means their opinions don't matter either.

[DankNuggs 305]

Hey aren't you libs supposed to be all about equality, equal rights, tolerance etc.?

You do realize this so called religions fundamental being is completely the opposite right ?

Hypocrites much ?

These are the type of people that need to pass health care laws first, so we can see whats REALLY inside them.

 

These people aren't educated in the facts.

 

If the KKK wanted to build a clubhouse there im sure it would be rightfully striken down, but these guys roll out the red carpet for the KKK of the middle east...

[MDC 7,561]

Hey aren't you libs supposed to be all about equality, equal rights, tolerance etc.?

You do realize this so called religions fundamental being is completely the opposite right ?

Hypocrites much ?

 

It's their property - hth!

[DankNuggs 305]

It's their property - hth!

Property was purchased with terrorist money... its dirty. Mosque will be built with terroist money.

[MDC 7,561]

Your opinion doesn't matter... and i presume you got your opinion from your family, which means their opinions don't matter either.

 

Neither does yours, because it's their property - hth!

[surferskin 30]

The first amendment doesn't give you the right to build your church anywhere you want. If it did, they never would have needed permission.

[MDC 7,561]

Property was purchased with terrorist money... its dirty. Mosque will be built with terroist money.

 

Cry all you want man, but they own the property, New Yorkers don't care, and most of them think your kind are very silly.

[drobeski 3,061]

It's their property - hth!

Good deflection, why do you tolerate such atrocities ? Are a mooslim ?

[tikigods 76]

LOFL... well done!

 

Newsflash bible thumpers... ALL Religions are intolerant. Being intolerant is at the very core of having a belief in god. One set of wacko's believe they're going to heaven (or whatever the equivalent) and everyone else is going to hell (or whatever equivalent). The other set of wacko's believe the exact opposite. In both cases god himself is pretty focking intolerant of anyone that doesn't buy into his antics. He could use a few bucks though. Cash preferred.

 

I am the most intolerant person on this board. Sometimes I actually offend myself. Truth.

[MDC 7,561]

Good deflection, why do you tolerate such atrocities ? Are a mooslim ?

 

I don't think moderate Islam tolerates terrorism so I don't blame moderate Muslims for 9/11, just like I wouldn't blame moderate Christians for assassinating doctors.

 

There are mosques all over Manhattan and right near Ground Zero. This is a phony "controversy" invented by politicians to take advantage of people like you. Inside of New York it is pretty much a non-issue.

 

The bottom line is, it's their property and provided they're paying taxes, within code and not breaking the law they can do with it what they want. This is, after all, America.

 

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

Horrible idea. I bet it doesn't last a year. It will be torched in no time.

[Mike Honcho 5,325]

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Read, learn...you ass lip liberals crying for tolerance of the most intolerant religion in the history of the planet.

 

Get a focking clue ass clowns.

 

 

Nice point man, we should be just as intolerant as the most intolerant religion on the planet - great point from a true patriot.

 

Considering the history our country, he might be the most 'American' guy here.

[Greedo 13]

don't have to time travel, just head to the middle east.

 

 

Wish you fought as hard for american freedom as you do for terrorists...

 

I am arguing in support of American freedom which you seek to tyrannically trample.

[gocolts 300]

The first amendment doesn't give you the right to build your church anywhere you want. If it did, they never would have needed permission.

Funny how these fockers on here break the crosses off of war memorials are suddenly religious tolerant.

[Me_2006 14]

This reminds me of the kid that does the 'I'm not touching you so you can't tell on me!' shiit while his finger is an inch from your face. Yeah, you can do it. But you're a d-bag for not considering the correlation between your religion and that site.

 

 

Btw, you're all invited to my Harry Potter book club in Salem. We meet on the first Saturday of every month.

[tikigods 76]

This reminds me of the kid that does the 'I'm not touching you so you can't tell on me!' shiit while his finger is an inch from your face. Yeah, you can do it. But you're a d-bag for not considering the correlation between your religion and that site.

 

 

Btw, you're all invited to my Harry Potter book club in Salem. We meet on the first Saturday of every month.

 

All of the people in Salem embrace the witch culture. It's a tourist, money making attraction today. They used to have a head witch...some dbag named Laurie Cabot. I think the analogy you want to use is setting up some kind of over the top Christian group meeting the first Saturday of every month. Salem is already like a modern day Hogwarts.

[drobeski 3,061]

Tolerance seems to flow in one direction

 

 

Saturday, August 14, 2010

SPECIAL TO THE TIMES

In a remote part of Afghanistan this month, the Taliban

gunned down 10 humanitarian aid workers, including six

Americans, for allegedly trying to convert villagers to

Christianity. Their real mission? To bring eyeglasses and

toothbrushes to rural Afghanis.

A driver in their convoy apparently escaped the slaughter by

quoting verses from the Koran and pleading for his life.

And while many Americans were enjoying the World Cup in June

and July, in certain parts of the world, simply watching the

matches on TV could be bad for one's health. In

Mogadishu, titular capital of the chaotic mess known as

Somalia, viewers had to keep the volume low and cheer in

hushed voices. The reason for such measures: Roving bands of

Islamists were on the prowl, looking to kill soccer fans for

being "distracted from Jihad."

Closer to home, in San Francisco, an outfit calling itself

the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence holds a "Hunky

Jesus" contest every Easter. As the name suggests,

participants are typically strapping young men costumed with

beards, thorny crowns and strategically taped loin cloths.

The Sisters are a colorful bunch -- their image a blend of

"Rocky Horror Picture Show" and "The Flying

Nun" -- who insist their campy message is one of simple

protest against the "stifling morality" of gender

norms. Their mission statement offers: "[W]e use humor

and irreverent wit to expose the forces of bigotry,

complacency and guilt that chain the human spirit."

Over at Comedy Central, they are developing a new animated

series called "JC." According to the network, the

program will be about Jesus "trying to live as a

regular guy in New York City" and wanting to escape the

shadow of his "powerful but apathetic father."

Tacky and provocative? Of course. However, if one's

faith can't handle a little baiting from a drag queen

in a nun's habit, or even a cartoon by people who think

bashing Christianity still amounts to edgy humor, then

it's perhaps a shaky faith to begin with. One has to

have a thick skin in today's cultural environment.

It's safe to assume, though, that the Sisters in San

Francisco would never direct their "irreverent

wit" at Islam or hold a "Hunky Muhammad"

contest. Nor would the brave writers at Comedy Central dare

to create an animated series about the Prophet "just

trying to get by" in Mecca.

The reason, of course, is that they don't want to go

through what Kurt Westergaard experienced. Westergaard is

the Danish political cartoonist whose sketch of the Prophet

wearing a bomb in his turban set off a firestorm a few years

back, with Danish interests around the world subject to

violent protests and bombings. The vicious irony of the

incident was apparently lost on the protesters: For

suffering the insult of seeing Muhammad portrayed as a

violent bomber, incensed Muslims threatened violence and

bombed Danish buildings in the name of the Prophet.

Westergaard himself requires constant police protection and

only escaped death in January by hiding from an assailant in

a "panic room" within his home.

All of this needs to be considered within the context of the

debate currently raging near Ground Zero. There, an imam

with shady financing and questionable motives wants to build

a mosque and cultural center a few blocks north of where the

Twin Towers once stood. The debate has broken down along the

usual fault lines, with those on the left, including Mayor

Bloomberg, arguing that America -- New York City in

particular -- is all about tolerance and understanding. To

not allow the project to proceed would be tantamount to

letting the terrorists win. This is an opportunity for

healing and understanding. Besides, every religion has its

fringe whackos.

And it is true that organized religion, by its nature, can

engender extremist behavior. We have been reminded of that

fact ad nauseum for the last nine years. Only one

religion's extremist fringe, however, has a bloody

track record of slaughtering humanitarian workers, murdering

soccer fans, and putting hits out on political cartoonists.

Hint: It's not Christianity.

The Ground Zero mosque, as many have observed, boils down to

a case of property and constitutional rights versus what is

right. The insensitivity to those who still grieve over 9/11

aside, it takes a willful brand of myopia to not even

consider that the choice of location for the mosque is not

entirely innocent. And having endured ceaseless haranguing

about how "we need to be better than them" and how

every challenge is an opportunity to show how tolerant and

understanding we are, it would be nice, just once, to see

that tolerance and understanding flow in the other

direction. Picking another site would be a great start.

Should the project move ahead, as appears to be the case, it

will be up to the imam to be true to his word, running a

center that promotes healing and tolerance. If so, perhaps

the Sisters, in full regalia, would be welcome to stop by

the next time they are in the Big Apple.

Matthew Bastian lives in Hamilton with his wife and two

Labrador retrievers. He works in the financial industry.

[drobeski 3,061]

Mosques & the Islamization of America

 

Thursday, 12 August 2010

 

Disguised as religion, Islam has penetrated democracies with the aim of replacing civility and liberty with the barbarism of 7th century Islamic theocracy and Sharia law. Islam’s multi-pronged attack aims to destroy all that liberty offers.

 

America, with a long tradition of protecting religious freedom, still clings to the “hands off” practice of leaving alone any doctrine or practice billed as religion. A thorny problem is in deciding what constitutes a religion and who is to make that call. We must keep in mind that to be a loyal and faithful Muslim, a Muslim must adhere to and perform many obligatory acts, as specified in the Quran by Allah and the Hadith/Sunna, during his entire life.

 

The mosque serves as a house where Muslim devotees gather together for salat (prayer) and worshiping Allah and his messenger, the prophet Muhammad.  Aside from worshiping Allah, a mosque is used for a variety of reasons. These meeting places are perfect warehouses of not only indoctrination, but future terrorists, who are made to read and understand the principles of Jihad, martyrdom and Dar ul Harb (“land of war”—any place not Islamacized.) Mosques cost money, and the money for these warehouses of intolerance is coming straight from Saudi Arabia, the number one terrorist state in the world.

 

These mosques are being infused with an activist strain of Islam, Wahhabism.  If you have to ask where the Saudi’s are getting their money, you are not paying attention...it's coming from you. Not to mention, the current U.S. administration in its continuous war against the American people, is doing everything it can to accommodate the “Cordoba Initiative”  project at taxpayers’ expense “that is spearheading plans to build a $100 million Islamic center at Ground Zero, the site where nearly 3,000 Americans were killed by jihadists on 9/11.”  The recent CNN Poll shows 68% of American voters oppose the Ground Zero Mosque.

 

Those useful idiot non-Muslims who support the building of the mosque near the 9/11 site or anywhere else by invoking the ideal of religious freedom, are empowering a creed that is devoted to stamping out freedom of religion or any other form of freedom.  

 

In this relentless campaign, the Islamists have a vast cadre of “experts,” “talking heads,” and for-purchase politicians who keep endlessly broadcasting the false mantra that Islam is a religion of peace. This latter bunch is criminally complicit in making the populace complacent and furthering the work of the Islamists.

 

When mosques are built, imams, mullahs or mosque elders tend to be sent to the U.S. with one clear mission:  Make Islamic religion, laws, and life supreme within the Unite States or any other host country, using any and all tactics necessary.  Next, from within the safety of their local mosques, they begin to use their revolting practices and wild sermonizing to force the genteel Americans to relocate to safer, less threatening neighborhoods and cities as is the case in England and other European countries.  

 

They will elect Muslims to all positions of local influence, who will create and enforce policy according to the Sharia law.  Once they have control over a town, they will begin to establish informal Sharia, and there’s nothing the government can (or will want to) do about it.  

 

Sharia is the brutal means by which Islam controls its populations by force, intimidation, and punishments for offenses to Allah.  Already in many European countries, national governments have, out of fear, given Islamic fascists the right to establish their own shadow governments within the borders of countries like Sweden and England, where they can control their own populations without accountability.  Proposals for Sharia are being taken seriously by many western countries.

“According to early Muslim historians, towns that surrendered without resistance and made treaties with the Muslims gave the Muslims permission to take their churches and synagogues. One of the earliest examples of these kinds of conversions was in Damascus, Syria, where in 705 AD Umayyad caliph Al-Walid I bought the church of St. John from the Christians and had it rebuilt as a mosque in exchange for building a number of new churches for the Christians in Damascus. Overall, Abd al-Malik (Al-Waleed's father) is said to have transformed 10 churches in Damascus into mosques.”

 

“The process of turning churches into mosques was especially intensive in the villages where most of the inhabitants converted to Islam. The Abbasid caliph al-Ma'mun turned many churches into mosques. Ottoman Turks converted nearly all churches, monasteries, and chapels in Constantinople, including the famous Hagia Sophia, immediately after capturing the city in 1453, into mosques. In some instances mosques have been established on the places of Jewish or Christian sanctuaries associated with Biblical personalities who were also recognized by Islam.”

 

Again, Muslims first make their mark by establishing mosques in as many towns and cities as they can.  These mosques range from the ostentatious, such as the one in Washington D.C., to the academically-cloaked university Islamic centers, to the innocuous storefront types and even prison chapels. One and all have the same aims: Hold the faithful in line, recruit as many new adherents by any and all means, and indoctrinate one and all in the imperative of Islamic conquest.

 

It is in these Islamic places that the impressionable young and the fanatical adults are drilled with the duty to carry out Jihad against the Dar ul Harb (“land of war”—any place not completely under the rule of Islam.)

 

Operating this vast network of Islamism requires significant financing. Saudi Arabia has spent over $80 billion for these operations since 1970. The other Persian Gulf States, with their treasuries flush with oil money, have done and continue to do their share of financing.

 

Not to be out-done by the virulent Wahhabism of the Saudis and their co-sectist Sunnis, the Islamic Republic of Iran has been bank-rolling its own array of clientele in the Middle East, much of Africa, and as far away as Southeast Asia and Latin America in a push for Shiism. The-non-Muslim world is literally caught in a pincer of the two rabid Islamic forces.

 

There are those who still delude themselves by preferring to believe that Islam has not made as many inroads into the United States as it has in other parts of the world, such as Europe. Facts prove otherwise.

 

According to a National Portrait, a survey released in April 2001, there were at least 1,209 mosques in the US. According to the latest report, this number has sky-rocketed to as many as 6,000 mosques in 2008.

 

“The official Saudi website reported a donation of $6 million, also in 1995, for a mosque in Cincinnati, Ohio. The website further stated, in 2000, "In the United States, the Kingdom has contributed to the establishment of the Islamic Center in Washington DC; the Omer Bin Al-Khattab Mosque in western Los Angeles, the Los Angeles Islamic Center, and the Fresno Mosque in California; the Islamic Center in Denver, Colorado; the Islamic center in Harrison, New York City; and the Islamic Center in Northern Virginia."

 

This entire guesstimate aside, a recent report from the FBI estimates that of the 2000 mosques in the United States, 10% preach Jihad. Welcome to the religion of peace as it is invading the land of the free to make it the land of submission. This is not some Islam-hating crackpot group reporting. It is the FBI, an agency known for its bending backward to be politically correct in tune with the rest of the administration.

 

In addition to the mosques already built in the land of the free, Islam is advanced by a large cadre of auxiliaries. Dr. Paul Williams (former FBI consultant, best-selling author and investigative journalist) reports that many Muslim businesses around the country conduct their regular businesses during the day and in the evening they turn their stores into Islamic gathering places. There are several thousands of these make-shift “Takeyehs”.

 

If only the masses of Muslims arise and carry out the orders of Allah, then we would have the promised paradise of Islam on earth as exemplified by such rules as that of the Taliban, Saudi Arabia, the Sudan, Somalia, and of course the Shiite nirvana of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

 

In these model Islamic societies, freedom of expression, worship, and assembly are taken away. Women are treated as chattel. Young girls are subjected to barbaric genital mutilation to make them sex slaves and birth channels without the ability to enjoy intercourse. Minors are executed, adulterers are stoned to death, thieves have their limbs amputated, and much much more. Isn’t that everyone’s idea of paradise?

 

What a travesty and how ironic indeed to have as many mosques as we already have in the U.S., yet, we intend to help the Islamists, building more training camps for future suicide bombers and endangering the safety of the American people and generations to come. With the average citizen, and not the devious and for-purchase-politicians, rests the solemn obligation to act, and act now, to compel our government to stem the tide of Islamism before it is too late.

 

It is tragic indeed that while our courageous service members are losing life and limbs in far and away places fighting Islamism, useful idiots and servile politicians of the highest rank at home bend backward to accommodate, even promote, Islamism.

 

There is a glimmer of hope that the American people are finally waking up to the deceit and the menace of the creed called Islam. Their opposition to the building of the mosque shows that the creeping Islamization of America is indeed something to stand against and prevent before it is too late.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Obama has thrown his hat burka in the ring on this issue........on the side of the muslims. Whodathunkit?

[Gepetto 1,385]

It's their property - hth!

 

Why do you support others that are not you or your family and that you don't even know or have anything in common with? Serious question.

[Saint Elistan 106]

Why do you support others that are not you or your family and that you don't even know or have anything in common with? Serious question.

 

How can that be a serious question?

[Gepetto 1,385]

How can that be a serious question?

 

How can it not be? I would be interested to hear MDC's answer.

[Saint Elistan 106]

How can it not be? I would be interested to hear MDC's answer.

 

So the only people, in your mind, worth protecting or supporting are relatives, friends, or people you have things in common with?

[Gepetto 1,385]

So the only people, in your mind, worth protecting or supporting are relatives, friends, or people you have things in common with?

 

No, I have no problem helping people that need help. But when it comes to liberals and their political correct b.s. and being weak toward those that attacked our Country makes me sick.