Soju808 1 Posted October 25, 2011 Just hope this thread possibly gives him a little motivation to get it going in the 2nd half. Come on RICE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roroco 75 Posted October 25, 2011 Just hope this thread possibly gives him a little motivation to get it going in the 2nd half. Come on RICE! Outside the fumble,.. this is not his fault. How can you expect a back to get any yards when they have zero pass attack and he only gets 1 touch a drive? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soju808 1 Posted October 25, 2011 Outside the fumble,.. this is not his fault. How can you expect a back to get any yards when they have zero pass attack and he only gets 1 touch a drive? True, I should've called this Bal offense sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,935 Posted October 25, 2011 And Flaccos inability to differentiate his arse from a hole in the ground...that dont help either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted October 25, 2011 you did it!!! he's on fire now!!! 2 points!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msudavedawg 5 Posted October 25, 2011 For being drafted in the top 5, yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soju808 1 Posted October 25, 2011 you did it!!! he's on fire now!!! 2 points!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBears23 0 Posted October 25, 2011 For being drafted in the top 5, yeah. Stop, not a single stud player has ever had 16 straight beastly games in a row. Except Jimmy Graham who will score at least 20 a week until he retires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kemosobe 1 Posted October 25, 2011 Just put his ass on the trading block Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chis0x13 0 Posted October 25, 2011 That fumble cost me a win unbelievable. Guy I was playing caught up on the boldin td and then went up .40 on the extra point by cundiff. All I needed was one lowsy check down instead flacco throws an int. FmL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyFourSeven 23 Posted October 25, 2011 He got me just enough points to win. Eek! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montana 89 Posted October 25, 2011 I needed about 19 pts. in a PPR to win. A big order, but not crazy. Thanks for nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chroniciguana 13 Posted October 25, 2011 The guy had a bad game. He's a monster. He'll be back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted October 25, 2011 The guy had a bad game. He's a monster. He'll be back. We keep getting rold hes a monster but Im not sold. His best years yardage-wise were marred by a lack of TDs and this year with NO Mclain or McGahee to steal TDs, he STILL aint getting any. Plus, how many FF owners with Rice went into last nights game with plenty of confidence only to get screwed royally. Face it - Rice can NOT be counted on like some of the other more consistent backs out there. Hes a tier 2 RB with a LOT to prove. Granted, its not his fault that The Ravens ahve the worst offensse in the history of the NFL. Flacco sucks, the WRs suck, everyone in that organization sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,311 Posted October 25, 2011 lol at calling him a 2nd tier RB. even after last night's game (which was his first one this season under 15 pts) and already having his bye week he is the 7th-ranked RB in my standard scoring league. only 2 of the guys with more points than him have already had their bye week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted October 25, 2011 lol at calling him a 2nd tier RB. even after last night's game (which was his first one this season under 15 pts) and already having his bye week he is the 7th-ranked RB in my standard scoring league. only 2 of the guys with more points than him have already had their bye week. I supose in these 1 pt per 10 yard pinball leagues hes better - but where he was drafted and the expectations still make him somewhat of a bust. His inconsistency is a killer. Top-tier RBs dont put up goose eggs against crappy teams. Ever. If Top tier RBs have an "off" day, it means like 70-80 yards and no TDs. Not this crap. The next 4-5 weeks will show us exactly what Rice is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 148 Posted October 25, 2011 I supose in these 1 pt per 10 yard pinball leagues hes better - but where he was drafted and the expectations still make him somewhat of a bust. His inconsistency is a killer. Top-tier RBs dont put up goose eggs against crappy teams. Ever. If Top tier RBs have an "off" day, it means like 70-80 yards and no TDs. Not this crap. The next 4-5 weeks will show us exactly what Rice is. 'Since 2009, when Rice became a full-time starter, he has averaged a league-leading 122.1 yards from scrimmage. During that time, he’s produced an NFL-best 25 games with at least 100 yards from scrimmage — which is three more than anyone else in the league (Johnson and Adrian Peterson have 22).' This guys not consistent at all and Forte doesn't score tds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,311 Posted October 25, 2011 I supose in these 1 pt per 10 yard pinball leagues hes better - but where he was drafted and the expectations still make him somewhat of a bust. His inconsistency is a killer. Top-tier RBs dont put up goose eggs against crappy teams. Ever. If Top tier RBs have an "off" day, it means like 70-80 yards and no TDs. Not this crap. The next 4-5 weeks will show us exactly what Rice is. lol again. one bad game does not = inconsistency. He did have 63 total yards (not good, but not that far from "70-80"), it was just the fumble that obviously also hurt his point total. Michael Turner, currently the 5th highest scoring RB in my league, had 20 yards against Tampa. I guess he is a bust also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 25, 2011 I thank him for sucking this week. I got to save face after leaving Murray on my bench in favor of Torrain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted October 25, 2011 I supose in these 1 pt per 10 yard pinball leagues hes better - but where he was drafted and the expectations still make him somewhat of a bust. His inconsistency is a killer. Top-tier RBs dont put up goose eggs against crappy teams. Ever. If Top tier RBs have an "off" day, it means like 70-80 yards and no TDs. Not this crap. The next 4-5 weeks will show us exactly what Rice is. 1 pt per 10 yards....1 pt per 50 yards.....doesn't matter. He gets yards in chunks....on the ground....through the air...whatever. Like Mueller said, Rice is a league leader when it comes to yards from scrimmage. Which means he'll score more points via yardage than all other RBs, irrespective of the scoring format. But you are right about the BAL offense....Harbaugh and Cameron are idiots, and will never win anything in the NFL. Rice carried the ball 8 times...the team ran it like 12 times....in a game that was close throughout. Flacco threw it ~25 times in the first half. The Ravens didn't get a first down in the first half. There's a correlation there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted October 25, 2011 'Since 2009, when Rice became a full-time starter, he has averaged a league-leading 122.1 yards from scrimmage. During that time, he’s produced an NFL-best 25 games with at least 100 yards from scrimmage — which is three more than anyone else in the league (Johnson and Adrian Peterson have 22).' This guys not consistent at all and Forte doesn't score tds. Weeks 2,3, and 7 were pretty mundane for a supposedly top 5 RB. Thats HALF the played games. But, Im glad that in your sissy-league that hes a "monster". You young chickens that play fantasy football must not remember what REAL monster RBs are like. I feel bad for you guys. I blame the scoring systems for cluding your judgement - its not all your fault. Go back and look at some of the seasons that Emmitt had, Priest Holmes, Shaun Alexander, etc, etc. Those are MONSTER seasons. Adrian Peterson is the only one this year that has been pretty much the nuts every week. Forte has 3 Total TD's in seven games. So, Im right. As usual. Noob. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,311 Posted October 25, 2011 How is a 10 yards per point league a sissy league? If every RB is on the same point system isn't doesn't matter. Maybe the fact that Rice can actually catch the ball would hurt him in leagues where it's more yards per point, since in a 10 yards per point league 30 rushing yards and 30 receiving yards would be 6 points but in a 20 yards per point league it would only be 2. But you have 20 yards that he's not getting any points for, so honestly those leagues are probably more of a sissy league IMO. week 2 - 96 yards and a TD week 3 - 164 yards very mundane indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted October 25, 2011 How is a 10 yards per point league a sissy league? If every RB is on the same point system isn't doesn't matter. Maybe the fact that Rice can actually catch the ball would hurt him in leagues where it's more yards per point, since in a 10 yards per point league 30 rushing yards and 30 receiving yards would be 6 points but in a 20 yards per point league it would only be 2. But you have 20 yards that he's not getting any points for, so honestly those leagues are probably more of a sissy league IMO. week 2 - 96 yards and a TD week 3 - 164 yards very mundane indeed. I guess it doesnt matter what the point-per is.... Rice has underperformed as far as Im concerned. As Obi-Wan so eloquently stated: "Our beliefs and truths that we cling to are created due to our point of view." If hes a monster to some of you guys, then great. To me, hes solid yet unspectacular. And, with the Ravens horrificly bad offense... lets how confident you all are in a big playoff game with Rice as your last player and you needing a strong game. There are LOTS of other guys Id rather roll with than Rice. Thats all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,311 Posted October 25, 2011 I guess it doesnt matter what the point-per is.... Rice has underperformed as far as Im concerned. As Obi-Wan so eloquently stated: "Our beliefs and truths that we cling to are created due to our point of view." If hes a monster to some of you guys, then great. To me, hes solid yet unspectacular. And, with the Ravens horrificly bad offense... lets how confident you all are in a big playoff game with Rice as your last player and you needing a strong game. There are LOTS of other guys Id rather roll with than Rice. Thats all. Yes, I guess you can call him "solid but unspectacular." In today's NFL that is worthy of a top 3 FF draft pick. Due to RBBC's it's tough to really compare any of today's RB's to Emmitt, Priest, etc. What other guys would you rather roll with than Rice? It sounds like you're saying Forte is unspectacular as well, so I'm curious to see who you consider to be "spectacular." Peterson was really the only other guy you mentioned, and surprise! He was drafted #1 or #2 in most leagues. Foster may be just starting to earn his own draft position. FJax has been spectacular this season but doesn't have a huge track record, although yes at this point I would take him over Rice. McCoy is probably similar to Rice. As I mentioned, Turner had a worse game against Tampa than Rice had against Jacksonville, and Rice is averaging more points per game than Turner. With McFadden's injury concerns I would not rather him than Rice. So counting Forte, with AP, Foster, Jackson, and McCoy, that's 5 guys that most sane people might take over Rice. But I drafted him 3rd OMG! You're like the guy who complains when his WR2 gets 65 yards with no TD's in a couple games when only 16 WR's had over 1,000 yards in 2010 and only 13 had over 9 TD's. So that is actually a typical week for one of the top 20 WR's in the NFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lexdizzle 1 Posted October 25, 2011 This is comical. The guy had EIGHT FREAKIN CARRIES! Whatdya expect. Dont blame this on him blame offensive play selection, oline and flacco. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,311 Posted October 25, 2011 Well at least the Ravens lost, so hopefully they will realize they need to use Rice to win real-life football games, not just fantasy ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted October 25, 2011 So is Baltimore done trying to be a passing team? This game and the Seattle/Cleveland matchup are the two games I watched in their entirety this week. My god! 8 quarters of hell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYGfan8092 0 Posted October 25, 2011 Weeks 2,3, and 7 were pretty mundane for a supposedly top 5 RB. Thats HALF the played games. But, Im glad that in your sissy-league that hes a "monster". You young chickens that play fantasy football must not remember what REAL monster RBs are like. I feel bad for you guys. I blame the scoring systems for cluding your judgement - its not all your fault. Go back and look at some of the seasons that Emmitt had, Priest Holmes, Shaun Alexander, etc, etc. Those are MONSTER seasons. Adrian Peterson is the only one this year that has been pretty much the nuts every week. Forte has 3 Total TD's in seven games. So, Im right. As usual. Noob. You're an idiot. Adrian Peterson is the only one this year that has been pretty much the nuts every week? There's a guy by the name of Fred Jackson who would dispute that til the end of time. Probably a guy named McCoy as well. Oh, yeah, and someone named McFadden too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted October 25, 2011 You're an idiot. Adrian Peterson is the only one this year that has been pretty much the nuts every week? There's a guy by the name of Fred Jackson who would dispute that til the end of time. Probably a guy named McCoy as well. Oh, yeah, and someone named McFadden too. "washed up" Michael Turner has put in a pretty good season so far too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 148 Posted October 25, 2011 "washed up" Michael Turner has put in a pretty good season so far too. That one really surprises me. I practically had Turner crossed off my board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laurence Maroney's Nuts 2 Posted October 25, 2011 This is comical. The guy had EIGHT FREAKIN CARRIES! Whatdya expect. Dont blame this on him blame offensive play selection, oline and flacco. No sh*t. Bunch of noobs posting on the bored these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted October 25, 2011 I guess it doesnt matter what the point-per is.... Rice has underperformed as far as Im concerned. As Obi-Wan so eloquently stated: "Our beliefs and truths that we cling to are created due to our point of view." If hes a monster to some of you guys, then great. To me, hes solid yet unspectacular. And, with the Ravens horrificly bad offense... lets how confident you all are in a big playoff game with Rice as your last player and you needing a strong game. There are LOTS of other guys Id rather roll with than Rice. Thats all. You should listen to the Jedi, because my belief is that Rice is the 7th best back in Fantasy....after having a bye and a 3 point night. I derived that conclusion by, you know, counting up the number of points he scored relative to other RBs. 7th...which means he's a RB1...unless you're playing in some goofy 4 person league. So it seems as if you're basing your beliefs purely on your perceptions, neglecting to take empirical raw data into account. Which makes you a noob. Also, back in the day....how many 4000 yard passers were there in the league? How many pure 3 down backs back then....compared to now? Apples and oranges man. Can't even compare the two eras. I think you should go back to posting as Axe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
browns16-0 30 Posted October 25, 2011 In PPR,Rice has topped 20 points every game besides yesterday, where he still got 10. Not sure what is inconsistent about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laurence Maroney's Nuts 2 Posted October 25, 2011 In PPR,Rice has topped 20 points every game besides yesterday, where he still got 10. Not sure what is inconsistent about that. Exactly... The only thing inconsistent is the amount of oxygen getting to some of the posters' brains in this thread... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msudavedawg 5 Posted October 25, 2011 Exactly... The only thing inconsistent is the amount of oxygen getting to some of the posters' brains in this thread... He rarely finds the end zone, rarely tops 100 yards rushing and has the tendency to disappear from the Raven's offensive scheme. They even went out an signed one of the best FB in the league and shipped off his only real competition to Denver. and he is still not producing any more than last year. He's got more value in PPR, I'll give you that. But people were talking him up like the next Marshall Faulk going into 2011. He's a solid player but I stand by not taking him if I have a pick in the top half of round 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,311 Posted October 26, 2011 You're an idiot. Adrian Peterson is the only one this year that has been pretty much the nuts every week? There's a guy by the name of Fred Jackson who would dispute that til the end of time. Probably a guy named McCoy as well. Oh, yeah, and someone named McFadden too. "washed up" Michael Turner has put in a pretty good season so far too. Rice is averaging more points per game than both Turner and McFadden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
browns16-0 30 Posted October 26, 2011 He rarely finds the end zone, rarely tops 100 yards rushing and has the tendency to disappear from the Raven's offensive scheme. Um what? I don't care if it's rushing or receiving, a yard is a yard. He's had 96 total yards or more in every game but last night, a game in which he received 8 carries. He is on pace for double digit touchdowns,over 2,000 total yards, and 70 catches. That seems like a good indication he doesn't "disappear" from their scheme. I took him #2 overall in both my leagues, and I would do it again. This is the dumbest thread I have read in awhile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laurence Maroney's Nuts 2 Posted October 26, 2011 Um what? I don't care if it's rushing or receiving, a yard is a yard. He's had 96 total yards or more in every game but last night, a game in which he received 8 carries. He is on pace for double digit touchdowns,over 2,000 total yards, and 70 catches. That seems like a good indication he doesn't "disappear" from their scheme. I took him #2 overall in both my leagues, and I would do it again. This is the dumbest thread I have read in awhile. Bold is so true. Noobs in this thread expect 3500 yards and 40 TDs or some sh*t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lexdizzle 1 Posted October 26, 2011 Bold is so true. Noobs in this thread expect 3500 yards and 40 TDs or some sh*t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msudavedawg 5 Posted October 26, 2011 This is comical. The guy had EIGHT FREAKIN CARRIES! Whatdya expect. Dont blame this on him blame offensive play selection, oline and flacco. MJD goes out there on one good knee with a rook QB and makes the Baltimore D his B!tch. THAT's what Ray Rice never seems to do. Sure, he has a nice game here or there but I never see him on an upcoming opponent's roster and say, "Ah crap, I'm playing the Rice owner this week," like I do for Foster, ADP, McCoy, Rogers and the other usual high first rounders. Now for all you who are poppin' the big wood for him, lighten up. We're all entitled to not have the big for Ray Rice if we don't want to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites