hoytdwow 202 Posted November 2, 2011 Judy Woodruff: "Do you view China as a potential military threat to the United States?" Cain: "I do view China as a potential military threat to the United States." Woodruff: "And what could you do as president to head that off?" Cain: "My China strategy is quite simply outgrow China. It gets back to economics. China has a $6 trillion economy and they're growing at approximately 10 percent. We have a $14 trillion economy -- much bigger -- but we're growing at an anemic 1.5, 1.6 percent. When we get our economy growing back at the rate of 5 or 6 percent that it has the ability to do, we will outgrow China. "And secondly, we already have superiority in terms of our military capability, and I plan to get away from making cutting our defense a priority and make investing in our military capability a priority, going back to my statement: peace through strength and clarity. So yes, they're a military threat. They've indicated that they're trying to develop nuclear capability, and they want to develop more aircraft carriers like we have. So yes, we have to consider them a military threat." link China has had nukes since 1964 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,538 Posted November 2, 2011 link China has had nukes since 1964 They don't have systems to deliver them. Big difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted November 2, 2011 They don't have systems to deliver them. Big difference. Beijing deployed a modest but potent ballistic missile force, including land- and sea-based intermediate-range and intercontinental ballistic missiles." yourself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,538 Posted November 2, 2011 yourself They don't have capable ICBM technology to deliver a warhead from China to the US. That is their stated goal and they are not far off from having that technology. So what Cain said is correct. ".They've indicated that they're trying to develop nuclear capability" You fail. Now go fawk yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,153 Posted November 2, 2011 If this was the year 2008 and people were making fun of an African American politician there would have been 14 replies yelling: "Racist!@#!" by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 2, 2011 If they wanted to the Chinese could blow up all 57 states. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,583 Posted November 2, 2011 They don't have capable ICBM technology to deliver a warhead from China to the US. That is their stated goal and they are not far off from having that technology. So what Cain said is correct. ".They've indicated that they're trying to develop nuclear capability" You fail. Now go fawk yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 2, 2011 Wait I'm confused ...is China one of the 57 states or not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,734 Posted November 2, 2011 Wait I'm confused ...is China one of the 57 states or not George Bush is reading me a story. shhhhhhhhhh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 2, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr7zhnctF4c&feature=related Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 2, 2011 George Bush is reading me a story. shhhhhhhhhh Is it a about growing up a Muslim and hiding everything about himself because he knows his base is too retarded to care ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greedo 13 Posted November 2, 2011 If this was the year 2008 and people were making fun of an African American politician there would have been 14 replies yelling: "Racist!@#!" by now. This post made me wonder - who will the average white racist male vote for - Cain, Obama, or will they stay home? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 2, 2011 This post made me wonder - who will the average white racist male vote for - Cain, Obama, or will they stay home? And the average black racist ? I'd say def obama even though he isn't even African American Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greedo 13 Posted November 2, 2011 Wait - I thought BHO was born in Kenya? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,388 Posted November 2, 2011 They don't have systems to deliver them. Big difference. China has a space program but not a missle delivery program. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,388 Posted November 2, 2011 They don't have capable ICBM technology to deliver a warhead from China to the US. That is their stated goal and they are not far off from having that technology. So what Cain said is correct. ".They've indicated that they're trying to develop nuclear capability" You fail. Now go fawk yourself. I'm trying to make sense of where your ignorance comes from and my only conclusion is that you have China mixed up with North Korea which would be ginormous phail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,388 Posted November 2, 2011 If this was the year 2008 and people were making fun of an African American politician there would have been 14 replies yelling: "Racist!@#!" by now. Obama didn't say stupid things that demonstrated igornance or lack of any depth on issues. He's always come across as smart and well informed. Still, Obama did say stupid things, the one that comes to mind first was "Bible and guns" comment in San Fransisco of which he (deservedly) got his ass reamed for saying it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,088 Posted November 2, 2011 Obama didn't say stupid things that demonstrated igornance or lack of any depth on issues. He's always come across as smart and well informed. No, he came across as a slick n1gger. Big difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted November 2, 2011 They don't have capable ICBM technology to deliver a warhead from China to the US. That is their stated goal and they are not far off from having that technology. So what Cain said is correct. ".They've indicated that they're trying to develop nuclear capability" You fail. Now go fawk yourself. china doesn't have planes or ships? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 2, 2011 Obama didn't say stupid things that demonstrated igornance or lack of any depth on issues. He's always come across as smart and well informed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gephardt69 0 Posted November 2, 2011 Focusing in on the nuclear capability statement (which is somewhat disingenuous to assume that once a country tests a nuclear weapon it's done and can't pursue more capability) ignores the larger, and far more profound, point, which is that this is an economic war moreso then a military one. Whoever has the most cash can build the most exploding devices. Cain understands how international relations is going to be played out in the remainder of the 21st century. The poignant question is: who else does? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 2, 2011 china doesn't have planes or ships? We have no problem taking out ships and planes before they get here..........ICBMs are another story, Patton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted November 2, 2011 Just to sum up the thread so far China has nuclear weapons, has short range and long range ballistic missiles, has ICBMs, and has an air force and a navy, and a space program, but no capability to deliver nuclear weapons. is everyone on the same page? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,388 Posted November 3, 2011 Focusing in on the nuclear capability statement (which is somewhat disingenuous to assume that once a country tests a nuclear weapon it's done and can't pursue more capability) ignores the larger, and far more profound, point, which is that this is an economic war moreso then a military one. Whoever has the most cash can build the most exploding devices. Cain understands how international relations is going to be played out in the remainder of the 21st century. The poignant question is: who else does? I'm not sure that it's an economic 'war'. The Chinese economic expansion may simply be the goal in and of itself since economic expansion is good for the country. Still, your overall point is valid up unto the part that infers that that Cain understands it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikki2200 4 Posted November 3, 2011 Just to sum up the thread so far China has nuclear weapons, has short range and long range ballistic missiles, has ICBMs, and has an air force and a navy, and a space program, but no capability to deliver nuclear weapons. is everyone on the same page? You forgot the random posts about Obama that have nothing to do with the thread. Other than that you have it covered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 3, 2011 Good to know all the libs on this bored are racists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikki2200 4 Posted November 3, 2011 They don't have systems to deliver them. Big difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted November 3, 2011 link China has had nukes since 1964 F*cking wow. We have a chance at a real statesman for POTUS and we're being spoonfed this fuckin idiot and people are buying it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted November 3, 2011 No, he came across as a slick n1gger. Big difference. Fuckin A Vikes. Fuckin A. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted November 3, 2011 I'm not sure that it's an economic 'war'. The Chinese economic expansion may simply be the goal in and of itself since economic expansion is good for the country. Still, your overall point is valid up unto the part that infers that that Cain understands it. How are those miles of abandoned railroad tracks and ghost towns treating ya BTW? In your genius maneuver to flee the crumbling US in an effort to be ahead of the world financial curve, you left out one detail: Everybody runs on the US. You might as well come home now. 7 mile has some pretty cheap homes right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,388 Posted November 3, 2011 F*cking wow. We have a chance at a real statesman for POTUS and we're being spoonfed this fuckin idiot and people are buying it up. For how different they all were, and taking the different paths, they took, we had a nice run there of high quality effective presidential leadership run there from the beginnings of my political consciousness from Reagan to Daddy Bush to Clinton. Now we're looking at twelve and almost certainly sixteen years of mediocrity. The GOP has a nice farm club with some high quality governors in Christie, Daniels, Kasich (and more) they have Colin Powell. Nobody decent wants to go through the fundraising headaches and the anal probe of a two year presidential run entails to have their fate decided by evilgelical dipsh*ts in Iowa that only care about abortion and ethanol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chronic Husker 85 Posted November 3, 2011 Nobody decent wants to go through the fundraising headaches and the anal probe of a two year presidential run entails to have their fate decided by evilgelical dipsh*ts in Iowa that only care about abortion and ethanol. Lmao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted November 3, 2011 Beijing deployed a modest but potent ballistic missile force, including land- and sea-based intermediate-range and intercontinental ballistic missiles." yourself Thank you Bill Clinton. :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,538 Posted November 3, 2011 I'm trying to make sense of where your ignorance comes from and my only conclusion is that you have China mixed up with North Korea which would be ginormous phail. Your new country does NOT have the capabilties to send an ICBM rocket that can hit the USA as of today from mainland China. They say they can, but they have failed so many fawking times it's comical. They can barely cross the bow on Tawain. You are the one who is fawking ignorant. China has failed at every attempt to attach a nuke to a system that can make it to any US land. Google the facts bro. Wait........you can't can you? every rocket attempt they have tried has failed to reach any of their objectives. The main one being a rocket that could come close to Cali. China can nuke the fawk out of the east. Watch out! They can't even come close to nuking us with an ICBM with an assault that could match .01% of what can do! Do you understand the difference? If they send one and we have the capabilities to send 1000 at you, there is no conclusion other than your immediate death. Are you that fawking ignorant? Have you been neutered? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,538 Posted November 3, 2011 They are fawking failures when it comes to rocket systems that deliver nukes. They can't even make me hungry after eating a full meal. Do your HW Nikki. The last test missle they fired that had any impact was a ###### destined for shotsup ass. And that mission was aborted like EdJRS aborted lasagna. Tthey are a joke and the world knows it. Why do you think we have any negotiation with them at all? We have nuclear subs off their coasts as they threaten Taiwan. And Tawain is doing pretty well last time I checked. Why? Because of us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,388 Posted November 3, 2011 Google the facts bro. I googled Chinese Missile Test" This is the first result that popped up ... http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/10/07/china-missile-test-shrouded-secrecy/ What were you expecting me to find? I also typed in "Chinese Missile Test failure" and saw nothing that resembles what you're talking about on page one. Personally, I think you were confused because of this... http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/06/world/asia/06korea.html?pagewanted=all And nobody claimed they would not be outgunned in nuclear proliferation. The Chinese haven't attempted to match the US in an arms race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,538 Posted November 3, 2011 I googled Chinese Missile Test" This is the first result that popped up ... http://www.foxnews.c...rouded-secrecy/ What were you expecting me to find? I typed "Chinese Missile Test failure" and saw nothing that you're talking about on page one. Personally, I think you were confused because of this... http://www.nytimes.c...?pagewanted=all And nobody claimed they would not be outgunned in nuclear proliferation. The Chinese haven't attempted to match the US in an arms race. When complete, the Dong Feng 21D -- a version of which was displayed last year in a Chinese military parade -- could give China the ability to reach and hit U.S. aircraft carriers well before the U.S. can get close enough to the mainland to hit back. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/10/07/china-missile-test-shrouded-secrecy/#ixzz1ccJSmP8W And that's my fawking point. China cannot reach us...................yet! Cain's words were correct. And even though China hasn't yet attempted to match us according to them, their stated goal is to do so. His words were correct. And that is my point of conversation. Why would China want to enter the arms race knowing they are well behind and yet lie to their people? And why would they attempt to reach us if they aren't in any arms wars? And why do they lie to their peoples of failures? And why do they pretend to use weapons as a show of force knowing that the rest of the world knows they are a farce? Aircraft Carriers? Really? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,388 Posted November 3, 2011 How are those miles of abandoned railroad tracks and ghost towns treating ya BTW? In your genius maneuver to flee the crumbling US in an effort to be ahead of the world financial curve, you left out one detail: Everybody runs on the US. You might as well come home now. 7 mile has some pretty cheap homes right now. No, no. For people who live at 8 Mile, our dream is to move out to 16 Mile. Our nightmare scenario, our biggest fear, is to avoid becoming 7 Mile at all costs. We are the resilient, decent, suburban people serving at the berm of civilization that separates 16 Mile residents from the inner-city animals and criminals that live at 7 Mile and further south. The low housing costs means they're moving in and bringing their ghetto ways with them. The 8 Mile berm is crumbling. This sounds racist but hold on. Decent blacks with jobs that take care of their yards, shovel the snow, and keep their houses in good repair are welcome and they can bring their churches with them. That's what the suburban living is all about. But keep your drugs, gangs, throwing trash out your car or home window, unmowed lawn, and loud focking rap sound system the fock away from us. ---- As far as China and the ghost towns go you're right, there's probably going to be a housing bubble explosion. I've been expecting it for a long time and it still hsan't hit yet. They keep tearing down affordable housing and stealing farmland near cities from peasants and building upscale walled off residential areas one after the other after the other. They sell the apartments to investors who sell them to other investors. Nobody actually lives in these apartments because they're too expensive for most folks and also inconveniently located with no shops or markets, or restaurants, or banks, or convenience stores, or anything in the vicinity. In this area are also grandiose office building skyscrapers of great artistic architectural design. They spend fortunes on what would be landmarks in any city in the US. One after the other after the other. All nearly empty. The only thing nearby are more empty upscale housing developments, more architectural wonder skyscrapers, and fields overrun with weeds. These developments are all tied together by unused eight lane roads that are impossible to make a left turn on and may or may not have functioning traffic lights. Driving through places is surreal. Nobody's there. The only other traffic on the road are construction workers and construction equipment. Deep in the middle of one of these is an expensive boarding school where Chengdu's elites send their kids for outrageous tuition and where I work. (I also have my own private English School and Kindergarten as well so I'm kind of tied in pretty deeply now.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,388 Posted November 3, 2011 When complete, the Dong Feng 21D -- a version of which was displayed last year in a Chinese military parade -- could give China the ability to reach and hit U.S. aircraft carriers well before the U.S. can get close enough to the mainland to hit back. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/10/07/china-missile-test-shrouded-secrecy/#ixzz1ccJSmP8W And that's my fawking point. China cannot reach us...................yet! Cain's words were correct. And even though China hasn't yet attempted to match us according to them, their stated goal is to do so. His words were correct. And that is my point of conversation. Why would China want to enter the arms race knowing they are well behind and yet lie to their people? And why would they attempt to reach us if they aren't in any arms wars? And why do they lie to their peoples of failures? And why do they pretend to use weapons as a show of force knowing that the rest of the world knows they are a farce? Aircraft Carriers? Really? I guess I was lazy and didn't take your obstinence seriously. The DF 21s are the anti-ship missiles. They're not designed to hit the US mainland. The Chinese also have ICBMs: the DF 31s, 31As and DF 41s. ICBM means intercontinental ballistic missiles. Intercontinental means they can go from China to other continents. The US is on another continent, the 31As can hit anywhere in the world, including the eastern seaboard of the US. Here's another link: http://cisac.stanford.edu/news/experts_judge_likely_effects_of_new_icbm_on_chinas_nuclear_policies_20060807 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites