Mitt Romney's Role with Bain Capital

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I think Romney has a net jobs increase while at Bain. Even with the companies he had to liquidate he doesn't come close to the millions of jobs Obama has rooned.

[Herbivore 1,145]

He was ? keep drinking the cool aid ..and when it warms up maybe you and your poooosay buddies can leave moms house for a few head back out to whine about successful people some more.

 

I just got your sarcasm and have stopped drinking the cool aid...thanks a lot. Totally agree with now, when a Republican loses an election its because it was all unfair.

[DankNuggs 305]

I think Romney has a net jobs increase while at Bain. Even with the companies he had to liquidate he doesn't come close to the millions of jobs Obama has rooned.

lol, oh ya... Funny libs care about maximizing shareholder value when it relates to their retirement accounts... they just doubletalk when they aren't focused on it because they operate on feelings and not logic... Like women.

[BudBro 183]

 

Never mind the whole him giving blow jobs story no one ever heard about but if looked into is very credible.

 

accounts make it out that he's more of a taker than a giver. seems to fit his general character.

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http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2012/01/mitt-romney-says-like-being-able-fire-people-new-hampshire-event/DSLNx9xGGR7KhEiyXEHVJI/index.html?p1=News_links

 

Here is the Boston Globe (liberal shrill paper)

 

"Romney says LOVES to fire people"

that's just poor journalism.

Romney's a snake, career politician.

BUT

that headline is garbage.

 

We all love to "FIRE" goods/service providers when we are unhappy with them - just ask a cable company or wireless provider. We all WISH we could add the Federal government to that list of "fireable" goods/service providers.

 

Jack Ass Boston Globe Titles it like Romney likes to Fire People who work for him... DUMB and IRRESPONSIBLE.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

success and Jesus are Satan to libtard ears

 

No, we just have different ideas of what "success" means. Republicans equate closing american plants to ship the jobs to china and turn American cities into ghost towns and tent cities so that a multi millionaire can become a billionare "success."

 

Liberals don't. I'm betting most Americans don't either.

[DankNuggs 305]

that's just poor journalism.

Romney's a snake, career politician.

BUT

that headline is garbage.

 

We all love to "FIRE" goods/service providers when we are unhappy with them - just ask a cable company or wireless provider. We all WISH we could add the Federal government to that list of "fireable" goods/service providers.

 

Jack Ass Boston Globe Titles it like Romney likes to Fire People who work for him... DUMB and IRRESPONSIBLE.

Intentionally misleading... Just what you want a purported 'news'paper to publish...

[DankNuggs 305]

No, we just have different ideas of what "success" means. Republicans equate closing american plants to ship the jobs to china and turn American cities into ghost towns and tent cities so that a multi millionaire can become a billionare "success."

 

Liberals don't. I'm betting most Americans don't either.

Due to overbloated govt regulations and taxes....Corporate taxes are among the highest in the world... Either become isolationist, or make the country globally competitive... There are two choices...

 

 

Stupid libs pretend this is a failing of capitalism... Its precisely a failing of indulgence and decadence brought on by ponzi scheme libs putting in 62 tril of unfunded liabilities...

[drobeski 3,061]

I just got your sarcasm and have stopped drinking the cool aid...thanks a lot. Totally agree with now, when a Republican loses an election its because it was all unfair.

Serious question ...do you think there is no media bias ?

[BudBro 183]

No, we just have different ideas of what "success" means. Republicans equate closing american plants to ship the jobs to china and turn American cities into ghost towns and tent cities so that a multi millionaire can become a billionare "success."

 

Liberals don't. I'm betting most Americans don't either.

titans, i don't think this broad stroke is very true. immelt from ge seems pretty happy shipping those jobs overseas and he's in the white house every week. bill gates keeps some of the jobs here in seattle, but brings in f1 visa holders who will work longer hours for less money than qualified americans who already live there.

 

candidly, i think we have a regulations issue here. let's not make laws that require jobs to stay here, let's make incentives that make it profitable for companies to grow and hire here.

 

on the flip side, if the govt and the unions are going to keep causing the cost of everything to continue to rise, then it is not profitable to keep doing business here. business owners would be wise to take production elsewhere.

[Herbivore 1,145]

Serious question ...do you think there is no media bias ?

 

No. People are biased, people work within the media, and therefore there will be biased stories, but not the agenda that some would like you to believe(cough Ann Coulter, cough Rush Limbaugh). You along with those 2 humps sound pathetic everytime you cry about a liberal media bias.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

titans, i don't think this broad stroke is very true. immelt from ge seems pretty happy shipping those jobs overseas and he's in the white house every week. bill gates keeps some of the jobs here in seattle, but brings in f1 visa holders who will work longer hours for less money than qualified americans who already live there.

 

candidly, i think we have a regulations issue here. let's not make laws that require jobs to stay here, let's make incentives that make it profitable for companies to grow and hire here.

 

on the flip side, if the govt and the unions are going to keep causing the cost of everything to continue to rise, then it is not profitable to keep doing business here. business owners would be wise to take production elsewhere.

 

1. Of course, I'm sure there are people of both persuasions who do both.

 

2. The "regulations" thing is, to some degree, a strawman. Yes, we have much more regulation than say, China. That is why our country is not a completely environmentally ravaged sh!thole like theirs. That is why, in theory, we have safer products than they do.

 

The bottom line is, the workers are taking home a lower percentage of gross than ever before, while the CEO takes more and more.

 

Personally, I think the solution is a set of protectionist tarriffs that remove the incentive to use dirt cheap foriegn pseudo-slave labor. All first world countries should do this together.

 

The answer is NOT to remove all regulation so our corporate overlords can wreck this country's air and environment and reduce the AMERICAN worker to the same level of the Chinese one.

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1. Of course, I'm sure there are people of both persuasions who do both.

 

2. The "regulations" thing is, to some degree, a strawman. Yes, we have much more regulation than say, China. That is why our country is not a completely environmentally ravaged sh!thole like theirs. That is why, in theory, we have safer products than they do.

 

The bottom line is, the workers are taking home a lower percentage of gross than ever before, while the CEO takes more and more.

 

Personally, I think the solution is a set of protectionist tarriffs that remove the incentive to use dirt cheap foriegn pseudo-slave labor. All first world countries should do this together.

 

The answer is NOT to remove all regulation so our corporate overlords can wreck this country's air and environment and reduce the AMERICAN worker to the same level of the Chinese one.

it's going to be a long road to rein this back in, but we must work on it. obama was offered a deal to bring all of those jobs back here, and it would have made him legendary, but he refused it. i want a president who will take that offer. there are talented people here who can do anything and likely better than anyone else. things just cost more, so people need higher pay, which can't be sustained. it probably starts with something small, like diesel prices going back to $1 a gallon. manufacturing and shipping costs go down, food prices go down, etc. i don't know, but this needs to be a point of focus.

[drobeski 3,061]

No. People are biased, people work within the media, and therefore there will be biased stories, but not the agenda that some would like you to believe(cough Ann Coulter, cough Rush Limbaugh). You along with those 2 humps sound pathetic everytime you cry about a liberal media bias.

well did you know Obama is a pickle smoocher ?

a racist one to boot

[Frank M 181]

http://www.boston.co...l?p1=News_links

 

Here is the Boston Globe (liberal shrill paper)

 

"Romney says LOVES to fire people"

 

He was making a point that compeitition is good and gets people better goods and services...

 

 

 

This is the lib playbook... Obviously a nonstory like this is top of the fold banner headlines...

 

 

That was my point, nice that the Globe made it for me...

 

Thank God, my head was starting to hurt from your flailing attempts to make even a modicum of sense!

[IGotWorms 4,060]

http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2012/01/mitt-romney-says-like-being-able-fire-people-new-hampshire-event/DSLNx9xGGR7KhEiyXEHVJI/index.html?p1=News_links

 

Here is the Boston Globe (liberal shrill paper)

 

"Romney says LOVES to fire people"

 

He was making a point that compeitition is good and gets people better goods and services...

 

 

 

This is the lib playbook... Obviously a nonstory like this is top of the fold banner headlines...

 

 

That was my point, nice that the Globe made it for me...

 

This is being reported everywhere now. Not just in the Boston Globe or other "liberal shill newspapers ". Also the other Republican candidates have picked up on this now : namely rick perry and jon huntsman. Like it or not, this story appears to have legs.

 

I mean, it's really mind boggling how conservative Republican candidates are attacking Romney and somehow you guys all see a liberal conspiracy. I think maybe a few of you have gone off the deep end.

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Republicans equate closing american plants to ship the jobs to china and turn American cities into ghost towns and tent cities so that a multi millionaire can become a billionare "success."

 

 

Do you have anything.....ANYTHING AT ALL.... to support this assinine claim?

 

This should be good.

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This is being reported everywhere now. Not just in the Boston Globe or other "liberal shill newspapers ". Also the other Republican candidates have picked up on this now : namely rick perry and jon huntsman. Like it or not, this story appears to have legs.

 

I mean, it's really mind boggling how conservative Republican candidates are attacking Romney and somehow you guys all see a liberal conspiracy. I think maybe a few of you have gone off the deep end.

 

 

“It also means that if you don’t like what they do, you can fire them,” Romney said. “I like being able to fire people who provide services to me. If someone doesn’t give me the good service I need, I want to say, you know, I’m going to go get someone else to provide that service to me.”

 

Oh, the outrage. You fukking moronic libtards are grasping at straws.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

RP, you lost your privilege to post in this thread with your first few posts. Clearly you don't want to have a discussion but just wish to troll as usual. Please carry on elsewhere. TIA

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RP, you lost your privilege to post in this thread with your first few posts. Clearly you don't want to have a discussion but just wish to troll as usual. Please carry on elsewhere. TIA

Yes, I can see how actually looking at a direct quote, in context, would roon your libtard circle jerk.

 

Sorry that me providing actual context put a damper on all that, Corky.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Hey Worms, serious question:

 

Have you ever changed cable companies, cell companies, electric companies, gas companies, etc...?

[nikki2200 4]

OK. Just for clarification because I am confused. Once again... it is a pro-Newt Gingrich, the "conservative Republican, PAC that launched these ads, no? Am I right?

[FeelingMN 273]

I think the bigger flub is Mitt stating he was worried he'd recieve a pink slip. He goes on to say he was worried he'd get canned if he wasn't performing well as a newly minted MBA. I'm sure most of America can relate.

 

[IGotWorms 4,060]

OK. Just for clarification because I am confused. Once again... it is a pro-Newt Gingrich, the "conservative Republican, PAC that launched these ads, no? Am I right?

 

Yes but it's a liberal conspiracy. Newt isn't really Newt at all. The libtards killed him and replaced him with a robot, then had him run for the Republican nomination so that they could sabotage the nominating contest from within. The libtards also killed and replaced Rick Perry and Jon Hunstman so that their robot clones would join in the attack, thereby lending credence to what the Newt robot clone said.

 

The media knows about all of this but they won't report on it because they're all in bed with Obama (literally, or at least the guys are because Obama is secretly a ghey).

 

HTH.

[nikki2200 4]

Yes but it's a liberal conspiracy. Newt isn't really Newt at all. The libtards killed him and replaced him with a robot, then had him run for the Republican nomination so that they could sabotage the nominating contest from within. The libtards also killed and replaced Rick Perry and Jon Hunstman so that their robot clones would join in the attack, thereby lending credence to what the Newt robot clone said.

 

The media knows about all of this but they won't report on it because they're all in bed with Obama (literally, or at least the guys are because Obama is secretly a ghey).

 

HTH.

 

This made more sense than most of what I read in this thread. Thanks for the info!

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This is being reported everywhere now. Not just in the Boston Globe or other "liberal shill newspapers ". Also the other Republican candidates have picked up on this now : namely rick perry and jon huntsman. Like it or not, this story appears to have legs.

 

I mean, it's really mind boggling how conservative Republican candidates are attacking Romney and somehow you guys all see a liberal conspiracy. I think maybe a few of you have gone off the deep end.

you act like this is a good thing?

so once again the American Public is informed by the media that only cares about soundbites/gotchas/and 15 second answers.

 

Mitt Romney is an empty suit, no doubt.

But this type of reporting and this method of shaping who people will vote for is ridiculous.

It's a large part of why our government and country is turning into such a joke.

You want to know why you get sh!tty elected officials every year? It's b/c this is what you base your vote on.... some "gotcha" moment or out-of-context quote.

Until the American Public starts demanding higher standards, this junk will continue to sell.

And sadly, I'm getting to the point where I don't have much faith in the American Public anymore.

Regardless of whether you're a DEM or REP, you should be annoyed by this - POLICE YOURSELVES and set a better example. But you won't - you're a lemming who toes the party line and likes anything that will give you an advantage in the polls regardless of how low-rent or bogus it is.

[FeelingMN 273]

you act like this is a good thing?

so once again the American Public is informed by the media that only cares about soundbites/gotchas/and 15 second answers.

 

Mitt Romney is an empty suit, no doubt.

But this type of reporting and this method of shaping who people will vote for is ridiculous.

It's a large part of why our government and country is turning into such a joke.

You want to know why you get sh!tty elected officials every year? It's b/c this is what you base your vote on.... some "gotcha" moment or out-of-context quote.

Until the American Public starts demanding higher standards, this junk will continue to sell.

And sadly, I'm getting to the point where I don't have much faith in the American Public anymore.

Regardless of whether you're a DEM or REP, you should be annoyed by this - POLICE YOURSELVES and set a better example. But you won't - you're a lemming who toes the party line and likes anything that will give you an advantage in the polls regardless of how low-rent or bogus it is.

 

 

 

The whole story is a non-issue.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Hey Worms, serious question:

 

Have you ever changed cable companies, cell companies, electric companies, gas companies, etc...?

Bump

[DankNuggs 305]

I think the bigger flub is Mitt stating he was worried he'd recieve a pink slip. He goes on to say he was worried he'd get canned if he wasn't performing well as a newly minted MBA. I'm sure most of America can relate.

 

An MBA is simply a degree, a piece of paper... "Newly minted" thats liberal main stream media jargon... It would be his first job out of school. You think its unreasonable to be worried about keeping his job and succeeding in it?

 

Friend of mine joined Goldman Sachs Investment Banking, Mergers and Acquisitions... Basically what seemed like the best job possible when i graduated around 02...Too bad, M&A activity quickly dried out, and they used LIFO in trimming down.

 

The fallacy is that success is bred and not earned. Its just not true. Liberals use this schtick to divide and conquer..Sal Alinsky tactics.

[FeelingMN 273]

An MBA is simply a degree, a piece of paper... "Newly minted" thats liberal main stream media jargon... It would be his first job out of school. You think its unreasonable to be worried about keeping his job and succeeding in it?

 

Friend of mine joined Goldman Sachs Investment Banking, Mergers and Acquisitions... Basically what seemed like the best job possible when i graduated around 02...Too bad, M&A activity quickly dried out, and they used LIFO in trimming down.

 

The fallacy is that success is bred and not earned. Its just not true. Liberals use this schtick to divide and conquer..Sal Alinsky tactics.

 

Actually, that's Mitt's own words...not some liberal media jargon:

 

“I came out of school and I got an entry level position like the other people that were freshly-minted MBAs,” he added. “You wonder, when you don’t do so well, whether you’re going to be able to hang onto your job and you wonder if the enterprise gets in trouble, you know, will you be one of those that’s laid off.”

 

http://articles.boston.com/2012-01-10/politics/30606589_1_mitt-romney-michigan-governor-massachusetts-governor

 

You criticize liberals for their evoked emotional responses during logical debate....but you consistently rail against the left even though there's really nothing to rail against. Seems to me your disdain for everything liberal has you rapping illogical at times.

[DankNuggs 305]

Actually, that's Mitt's own words...not some liberal media jargon:

 

 

 

http://articles.boston.com/2012-01-10/politics/30606589_1_mitt-romney-michigan-governor-massachusetts-governor

 

You criticize liberals for their evoked emotional responses during logical debate....but you consistently rail against the left even though there's really nothing to rail against. Seems to me your disdain for everything liberal has you rapping illogical at times.

Nope, just rail against the same old Alinsky style 99% BS...

 

dial things down for the knuckledraggers and completely twist the message... Its really shameful. It reminds me that liberal progressivism is evil. It represents the decadance that will topple the country...

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You criticize liberals for their evoked emotional responses during logical debate....but you consistently rail against the left even though there's really nothing to rail against. Seems to me your disdain for everything liberal has you rapping illogical at times.

You could cut and paste this in just about every political thread. Usually the inanities follow statements about lemmings, after "independent thinkers" regurgitate the standard conservative neologisms.

[nikki2200 4]

Nope, just rail against the same old Alinsky style 99% BS...

 

dial things down for the knuckledraggers and completely twist the message... Its really shameful. It reminds me that liberal progressivism is evil. It represents the decadance that will topple the country...

 

I still don't get it.

[FeelingMN 273]

Nope, just rail against the same old Alinsky style 99% BS...

 

dial things down for the knuckledraggers and completely twist the message... Its really shameful. It reminds me that liberal progressivism is evil. It represents the decadance that will topple the country...

 

As has been pointed out already, this is a conservative going against another conservative. It's political mudslinging101 whereby the candidates don't want you to think critically, they want you to respond viscerally. So I agree with you that they're dialing things down here.

 

Just don't know why you continually think this is the result of liberal progressivism when it's really a win-at-all-costs strategy....and folks of all stripes use it.

[DankNuggs 305]

As has been pointed out already, this is a conservative going against another conservative. It's political mudslinging101 whereby the candidates don't want you to think critically, they want you to respond viscerally. So I agree with you that they're dialing things down here.

 

Just don't know why you continually think this is the result of liberal progressivism when it's really a win-at-all-costs strategy....and folks of all stripes use it.

The STRATEGY is of liberal progressivism... Yes, it is coming from the camp of a conservative. I said it was indication that his message isn't gaining traction and he is getting DESPERATE...(running at what? 11% in NH right now)...

 

This spin is that people are succeeding in business by hurting working class... truth is the economy zhitting the bed hurts jobs and the working class, and business will do what it can to baton down the hatches to tough through it...

[MDC 7,590]

The STRATEGY is of liberal progressivism... Yes, it is coming from the camp of a conservative. I said it was indication that his message isn't gaining traction and he is getting DESPERATE...(running at what? 11% in NH right now)...

 

This spin is that people are succeeding in business by hurting working class... truth is the economy zhitting the bed hurts jobs and the working class, and business will do what it can to baton down the hatches to tough through it...

 

Dear Lord you are such a pious blowhard you make Newt look sane and humble.

[DankNuggs 305]

Dear Lord you are such a pious blowhard you make Newt look sane and humble.

The sad part is even after all the heavy lifting to get someone who isn't infected with progressivism into the presidency, all that gets you is congress to actually look at the real issue... Like budgets. Doesn't mean people are going to agree on anything. So sad.

[nikki2200 4]

The sad part is even after all the heavy lifting to get someone who isn't infected with progressivism into the presidency, all that gets you is congress to actually look at the real issue... Like budgets. Doesn't mean people are going to agree on anything. So sad.

 

Nope. Still don't get it.

[DankNuggs 305]

Nope. Still don't get it.

Without a supermajority it really doesn't matter who is POTUS, they define the conversation, not the agreement.

 

Repubs will repub, doesn't mean congress is passing a BBA anytime soon regardless of presidency.

 

Get it?

[Me_2006 14]

Actually, that's Mitt's own words...not some liberal media jargon:

 

 

 

http://articles.boston.com/2012-01-10/politics/30606589_1_mitt-romney-michigan-governor-massachusetts-governor

 

You criticize liberals for their evoked emotional responses during logical debate....but you consistently rail against the left even though there's really nothing to rail against. Seems to me your disdain for everything liberal has you rapping illogical at times.