MDC 7,231 Posted May 18, 2012 You know nothing about me. Now get back to work you slacker while I have a few Pre-Happy Hour margaritas at the pool. The internet provides a medium where losers can try to make fun of people who are more successful than they are. I hope you are just a trolling alias, mostly for your sake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,348 Posted May 18, 2012 I hardly think a parent trying to give her a daughter an advantage by using something that is already in place would qualify her as a racist. Not saying she is or isn't one, but that alone sure as hell doesn't make her one. No. Peenie has a large body of work that defines her. But, if I was someone who truly believed in racial equality I would put decline to state or something else when asked for race. I certainly wouldn't try to gain an advantage from it. I could have when I applied to college. I'm enough Asian that I could put that down. But I didn't even think about it. I prefer to achieve things in life on my own merits, not my ethnicity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,906 Posted May 18, 2012 If you felt the school was more likely to accept her is they knew she black instead of white then it definitely DID have something to do with race. If she was so qualified based upon her being an honor student and all of that why would you have any doubt she could get in on her own merits? You wanted to use race as a crutch to give her an advantage. And you wonder why you're considered the biggest racist on this bored. You don't even know when you're being racist. strike, stop, really just take a breath and think for a second about what i'm saying. uga has a ton of kids applying. it's a school with a great football team, everyone who lives in georgia loves uga (except georgia tech fans, lol). her grades sat her firmly within the academic requirements to get her into the school. her race would have given her a boost and most likely entrance into the university because the school is not diverse. georgia is like 27% black, but uga is only 5% black, so of course they'd want to accept her because of her race. guess what else uga would want? a good wide receiver, international students, legacy students, children of donors, handicapped students, latinos, kids that were on the chess team at their high school, kids that were class presidents, or kids who took a lot of AP classes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted May 18, 2012 No. Peenie has a large body of work that defines her. But, if I was someone who truly believed in racial equality I would put decline to state or something else when asked for race. I certainly wouldn't try to gain an advantage from it. I could have when I applied to college. I'm enough Asian that I could put that down. But I didn't even think about it. I prefer to achieve things in life on my own merits, not my ethnicity. Congratulations, but taking advantage of all rules that are in place does not make a person a racist. And that's what you said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,348 Posted May 18, 2012 strike, stop, really just take a breath and think for a second about what i'm saying. uga has a ton of kids applying. it's a school with a great football team, everyone who lives in georgia loves uga (except georgia tech fans, lol). her grades sat her firmly within the academic requirements to get her into the school. her race would have given her a boost and most likely entrance into the university because the school is not diverse. georgia is like 27% black, but uga is only 5% black, so of course they'd want to accept her because of her race. guess what else uga would want? a good wide receiver, international students, legacy students, children of donors, handicapped students, latinos, kids that were on the chess team at their high school, kids that were class presidents, or kids who took a lot of AP classes. Sorry Peenie but using race to gain an advantage is wrong, and racist. You can frame it any way you want. If you want a race free society you have to step up and live it, not just ###### about whitey not living it, even if it means forgoing racist policies that might give you an advantage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted May 18, 2012 Congratulations, but taking advantage of all rules that are in place does not make a person a racist. And that's what you said. Taking advantage of rules in place to get into college that aren't affirmative action: racist Walking away from a loan you agreed to pay: good business sense Pardon me if I give a great big old to Strike's fake outrage and malleable morals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted May 18, 2012 Taking advantage of rules in place to get into college that aren't affirmative action: racist Walking away from a loan you agreed to pay: good business sense Pardon me if I give a great big old to Strike's fake outrage and malleable morals. No sh!t. I think strike might really be insane. The kind of crap he believes could only make sense to a crazy person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 18, 2012 Congratulations, but taking advantage of all rules that are in place does not make a person a racist.So essentially you are saying that a system can be racist, yet people adhering to that system cannot be. An example might be plantation owners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted May 18, 2012 So essentially you are saying that a system can be racist, yet people adhering to that system cannot be. An example might be plantation owners. I'm saying that if a black student gets accepted because of some criteria of blacks-to-whites percentage that has to be met, then the student nor the parents are being racist for allowing her to go to that school. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 18, 2012 I'm saying that if a black student gets accepted because of some criteria of blacks-to-whites percentage that has to be met, then the student nor the parents are being racist for allowing her to go to that school.And I am saying that nobody ever seems to have a problem with society if it happens to be tilting the unfair scale in their direction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted May 18, 2012 And I am saying that nobody ever seems to have a problem with society if it happens to be tilting the unfair scale in their direction. I hate to break it to you, bud, but it's not an even playing field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted May 18, 2012 yeah - didn't read this whole thing howevva' if being a SWM is the easiest b/c the odds are you come from a privleged background THEN being a SWM that is NOT from a privleged background is the hardest as the expectation is that you do not need any breaks, that you are privliged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted May 18, 2012 No only is the guy a moron, he isn't even funny. The beauty is that whrn you keep telling the white male they have it made they believe it. You are entitled to your opinion but I couldn't disagree with you more. This bit is funny and Louis CK is comedic gold in my mind. The stuff he says is spot on and I really love his sense of humor. He's extremely intelligent as well. Certainly not a moron as you suggest. To each his own I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,277 Posted May 18, 2012 it's really sad that i've been a member of this site for so many years and you haven't learned... A: to stop whining and complaining about the non-existent reverse racism against you B: what affirmative action is, how it works and who it has benefited C: that any discussion about race will force me into unleashing some whoop asses on all of your ignorant behinds i'd like you all to tell me what affirmative action benefits you think me or my daughter (we're both black and college educated) you think we've received in our lifetimes. but clearly there is the assumption that affirmative action has somehow robbed you of something, what? voltaire? The problem with affirmative action is that it replaces real socio-economic disadvantages with fake/artificial racial ones. Black does not mean poor. White does not mean rich. You and I are of the same generation: early 40-somethings. The race riots, the bus boycotts, the lunch counters, the assassinations, those are seared into the memories of our parents, but you and I didn't experience any of that. Legal discrimination against blacks ended before we were born whereas overcompensation by way of legal discrimination against whites (and Asians) has been in place for our entire lifetime. Now there has remained subtle, invisible discrimination against blacks and that's hard to measure. Sadly, the words and opinions of plenty of morons on this site attest to the fact it still exists. But so far as I can tell is nearly inconsequential. Ten-twelve years ago, I spent two years dating and had been engaged to a very dark skinned black girl. To the great credit of the American populace, I never felt any discomfort. Well, a couple of silly stories... not going on that tangent. This residual racism that I remember as a young kid in the 70s ... is essentially dead. Our generation killed it and today's 30-somethings and 20-somethings are piling on. They don't even have that memory. Now let's get back to Affirmative Action. I happen to know for a fact that you suffer from classic focked-up liberal interpretation of AA because in the last thread on this topic, you reamed Clarence Thomas as someone who personally benefited from affirmative action and then wants to pull the rug out from under other black kids. And that's wrong Wrong WRONG WRONG WRONG!!! Young Clarence Thomas had to deal with issues of racism and poverty that you and your daughter did not. Old Clarence Thomas has very personally felt the stigma of his life's work being tainted and discredited with the AA brush and he resents AA for reasons that I can't relate to. He is notably hostile to AA. As of today, AA still exists full bore in all it's pathetic glory but it may finally be on it's last legs. When SCOTUS took up the Fischer case, I totally rejoiced because SCOTUS has given itself a golden opportunity to hopefully permanently sh*tcan AA. This case has the potential to explode in a number of ways, this is all speculation and why I'm going to have to use so many weasel words. Notice, Clarence Thomas supports pulling the AA rug out from under his own kid and (hopefully) grandkids because he is successful. And he supports pulling it out from under your daughter because you are successful. There is real hardship out there but since neither your daughter nor Jamal Thomas suffer from any of it, they don't deserve any extra help. Get over it. But there's a whole socio-economic argument that has to be addressed. It is not known that Clarence Thomas would support a full repeal of all preferential treatment or to modify it to a color blind system that helps poor kids of any race. There's a very real chance that poor black kids growing up in Pin Point, GA will still have the same access to AA that they had in Clarence Thomas' time. And they would be joined by the children of my friends and neighbors at 8 Mile as well as the children of the Korean lady at the manicurist shop. I don't know if they deserve special treatment. I have to recuse myself as I'm personally involved. But why the hell you think your daughter deserves AA while they do not, I have no idea but I think it's racist and that you should get over yourself. Oh and you want to know who faces real discrimination still in America today? Muslims. For fun, look at what box the admissions racists want people of Middle Eastern decent to check: https://www.commonapp.org/CommonApp/Docs/downloadforms/CombinedFirstYearForms2010.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites