jkil22 1 Posted November 27, 2012 So I have a 12 team league, broken down to 2 conferences with 2 divisions in each. 6 teams make the playoff. The 4 teams that win their respected divisions and then a wild card from each conference. Here lies the problem, In conference A we may have 3 teams with the same record at the end of the regular season (next week), the tie breaker is head to head record which stands as followss: Team 1 beat Team 2, Team 2 beat Team 3, Team 3 Beat team 1. Does it fall back to who has the most points? That would be the next tie breaker, is that where we would be at? Sorry for the confusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swashbuckler 0 Posted November 27, 2012 We play H2H with no divisions and every once in a while we end up with a similar situation...but at that point, we go points forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted November 27, 2012 We play H2H with no divisions and every once in a while we end up with a similar situation...but at that point, we go points forward. yep. if the first tiebreaker is not conclusive, then on to the next tiebreaker. points is the most logical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,087 Posted November 27, 2012 Yes it goes to the second tiebreaker (whatever your league stipulates that is); which normally would be season points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teren 2 Posted November 27, 2012 Depends on league settings but Yahoo defaults to division winning percentage in leagues with divisions if I'm not mistaken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew's Berry's 0 Posted November 28, 2012 We used to deal with those kind of tiebreakers, but then realized two things ... (1) we are determining a single game when one team could of been decimated by the bye week, didn't seem fair to penalize them for this, and (2) total points is THE most logical since it proves who had the "best overall team" during the season. AND it's super cleaner, calculatable and easier to justify. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTD 56 Posted November 28, 2012 Agree with the masses. Total points is what decides the tiebreaker in this scenario. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted November 28, 2012 Every league is different but what about division record? We go division record than points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zac3434 5 Posted November 28, 2012 Every league is different but what about division record? We go division record than points. This is same way we did it when we had divisions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted November 28, 2012 Whatever your next tie breaker is, go with that to break the tie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted November 28, 2012 Points should always be the first tiebreaker. Also, wild cards should come from any division, not one from each. Think like the real nfl or any sport really, wild cards can all be from the same div if those teams ha the best records. What u get otherwise is a team with a losing record making the playoffs over a team with a winning record. Now before u say "yea just like Tennessee a few years ago made it at 8-8 over Baltimore who was 10-6" or some other nfl scenario, that only happens with a division winner. Wild cards should be wild. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veebs4 2 Posted November 28, 2012 If I understand the league configuration right, you have 2 conferences, and 4 total divisions (2 in each conference). Your league rules stipulate the 4 division winners automatically go. then, 2 wild cards (1 from each conference) also go on. As most have said, the head-to-head tiebreaker is inconclusive. If not prescribed, you basically have two options: 1. Conference record 2. Total Points Total points is the easiest. Conference record may be indeterminate. There are about a million different twists you could use (H2H pts for-pts against in combined H2H matchups, etc.), but I would think it would be one of the two above. Regardless, this will become your de facto rule going forward, so choose wisely, and communicate clearly to all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted November 28, 2012 Coin Flip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdon 28 Posted November 28, 2012 have you thought about a death match? 3 men enter, one leaves? it could work... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smashmouths@blf 33 Posted November 28, 2012 Easy one. Go with total points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,081 Posted November 28, 2012 Rock paper scissors Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chroniciguana 13 Posted November 28, 2012 Why wasn't this issue addressed in your rules? A week before the playoffs begin isn't the best time to be doing this. Because somebody isn't going to be happy no matter what you do, you're now going to have to do a ton of tap dancing to sell your solution to your league. This bored, and the opinions offered, is probably your best sales tool. Nobody here has any skin in your game. Because your two wild cards come from different conferences, conference record loses a lot of relevance. If head-to-head works, this should probably come first. You might then want to turn to head-to-head points if they are 1-1. If this somehow still gives you a tie, season points should break it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted November 28, 2012 We do total TDs that week to break ties as we would on that last week if we had tie and H2H is next. Points isn't fair unless told in advance IMO. I keep a guy like CJ a league where total points is a high pay out - just for his 2/3 big games (obviously hoping for more) but in a H2H yearly league - I dumped his arse weeks ago . So go with total TD the last week if season - if that tie, then take highest bench player, or something for crying out loud. Now I'm piss Ed that this wasn't documented before now. You and your commish are morons and just wasted 4 minutes of my life.. Grrrr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted November 28, 2012 I found best way!!! Let the 3 teams play in the WC game and highest of three advance. Done & your welcome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DLR 0 Posted November 28, 2012 That really ain't fair to who they are playing, lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
travis_henrys_baby_momma 10 Posted November 28, 2012 Does it fall back to who has the most points? That would be the next tie breaker, is that where we would be at? Sorry for the confusion. Of course you use the next tie breaker in this situation. I don't see how it's confusing?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 712 Posted November 28, 2012 Edjr's favorite method is Australian D1ck Wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
punkasss 0 Posted November 28, 2012 You think that is tough check our standings out...3 playoff spots available and 6 teams with 6-6 record fighting for them. Two play each other...total points may come into affect here too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dueces Will Be Wild 15 Posted November 28, 2012 Of course you use the next tie breaker in this situation. I don't see how it's confusing?! I have to agree. You clearly go to the second tie-breaker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montana 89 Posted November 29, 2012 The guy's S.O. can size (biggest to smallest) wins. C'Mon guys, this was too easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites