windycityguy 1 Posted January 4, 2013 http://homes.yahoo.com/news/cities-with-the-most-burglaries-004004007.html Am I wrong or do both Texas and Arizona have relaxed gun laws? How come so many are willing to break in to a house knowing the home owner is probably armed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 4, 2013 New York and Chicago in the top 5. Good list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted January 4, 2013 Burglary is committed when no one is home and many times they are after the guns. You will have to look at the robbery stats to determine if they are afraid of guns. HTH Check this thread http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=415577&hl=phurfur&st=0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 133 Posted January 4, 2013 Because they haven't been shot at enough! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,343 Posted January 4, 2013 5: New York - Lots of angry negros reside there 4: Pheonix - Lots of angry messicans reside there 3: Dallas - Lots of angry negros from Houston moved there 2: Chicago - More silly negros 1: Houston - Lots of angry negros transplanted from Louisiana live there High negro or messican population = high crime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 4, 2013 Seems they are Windbagguy. Pretty weak effort on your part. Concealed Carry Laws Make Society Safer June 2, 2000 When the law allowing licensed Texans to carry concealed weapons was passed in 1995, there was a large protest. Many groups still advocate repealing the law. For instance, the Violence Policy Center, a research organization opposed to concealed carry, released reports in 1998 and 1999 highlighting the number of Texas licensees that were arrested since the law went into effect. However, according to a study by engineering statistician William Sturdevant: Licensees were 5.7 times less likely to be arrested for violent offenses than the general public -- 127 per 100,000 versus 730 per 100,000. The general public is 1.4 times more likely to be arrested for murder than licensees and no licensees have been arrested for negligent manslaughter. Only 6 of 200,000 licensees have been arrested for murder since the law was introduced and only 2 of those were found guilty. Not only are the licensees less criminal-prone, carrying guns save lives and prevents crimes. For example, a study by the University of Chicago's John Lott found that had right-to-carry laws prevailed throughout the nation, there would have been 1,600 fewer murders, 4,200 fewer rapes and 60,000 fewer severe assaults. In the early 1990s Texas's serious crime rate was 38 percent above the national average. Since then serious crime has dropped 50 percent faster than the nation as a whole. In light of Lott's research, it is likely that Texas's concealed carry law has contributed to the declining crime rates. Source: H. Sterling Burnett, "Texas Concealed Handgun Carriers: Law-abiding Public Benefactors," NCPA Brief Analysis No. 324, June 2, 2000, National Center for Policy Analysis. http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=9928 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 4, 2013 A more detailed article. http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba324 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windycityguy 1 Posted January 4, 2013 Seems they are Windbagguy. Pretty weak effort on your part. http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=9928 My question had nothing at all to do with crime rates among licensed gun owners or carry conceal licenses. HTH Conceal carry doesn't seem to stop people from trying to break into your house. Even though you might be home with your gun on your person. Or you might walk into the robbery while you have your piece on your hip. Or that the neighbor might be armed and notice you breaking in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,343 Posted January 4, 2013 My question had nothing at all to do with crime rates among licensed gun owners or carry conceal licenses. HTH Conceal carry doesn't seem to stop people from trying to break into your house. Even though you might be home with your gun on your person. Or you might walk into the robbery while you have your piece on your hip. Or that the neighbor might be armed and notice you breaking in. Just out of curiosity, have you ever lived anywhere near Cabrini-Green or been through there back in it's heyday? I read this great book Hardball: A Season in the Projects many times over and have always wondered how true to life it is / was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 1,927 Posted January 4, 2013 Most hardworking honest and by the law gun owners are at work and are not at home because they are working when the break-ins occurr. You don't see too many bad guys breaking into homes and robbing the fine citizens watching Judge Judy either . The guy sitting in an hour commute and not at home is a better target since he's not home. What should a bad guy be scared of if no one is home? I gurantee they don't break into houses where they know the owner is home and have guns in Texas and Arizona. I have a big fawking dog that hates bad guys. I highly recomend one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,649 Posted January 4, 2013 I have a big fawking dog that hates bad guys. I highly recomend one. bad guys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 1,927 Posted January 4, 2013 bad guys? 90 pound black lab with teeth whiter than Whitney Houstons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,649 Posted January 4, 2013 90 pound black lab with teeth whiter than Whitney Houstons. Why's it always got to be a "Black" lab with you people? Why can't they all just be labs - or dogs for that matter? You couldn't say "teeth wither than Vanna White?" Man, this bored is sooo racist... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 1,927 Posted January 4, 2013 Why's it always got to be a "Black" lab with you people? Why can't they all just be labs - or dogs for that matter? You couldn't say "teeth wither than Vanna White?" Man, this bored is sooo racist... Vanna White isn't scary. Or afraid of dogs, scary movies, and swimming pools. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,649 Posted January 4, 2013 Vanna White isn't scary. Or afraid of dogs, scary movies, and swimming pools. ..And guaranteed not smarter than any of the above... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 1,927 Posted January 4, 2013 ..And guaranteed not smarter than any of the above... I'd bang her with her current PH count. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,649 Posted January 4, 2013 I'd bang her with her current PH count. Party Hair? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted January 4, 2013 Party Hair? Pubic hair? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 4, 2013 My question had nothing at all to do with crime rates among licensed gun owners or carry conceal licenses. HTH Conceal carry doesn't seem to stop people from trying to break into your house. Even though you might be home with your gun on your person. Or you might walk into the robbery while you have your piece on your hip. Or that the neighbor might be armed and notice you breaking in. I guess the link had too many werds. If you read far enough you would have made it to these facts: Not only are the licensees less criminal-prone, carrying guns save lives and prevents crimes. For example, a study by the University of Chicago's John Lott found that had right-to-carry laws prevailed throughout the nation, there would have been 1,600 fewer murders, 4,200 fewer rapes and 60,000 fewer severe assaults. In the early 1990s Texas's serious crime rate was 38 percent above the national average. Since then serious crime has dropped 50 percent faster than the nation as a whole. In light of Lott's research, it is likely that Texas's concealed carry law has contributed to the declining crime rates. Anywhere CC is passed, crimes against individuals go down. This clearly shows criminals are scared of guns.......when they don't know if an individual has one or not. Going into an empty house to steal a TV doesn't prove a thing, much less that criminals aren't scared of guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,739 Posted January 4, 2013 My question had nothing at all to do with crime rates among licensed gun owners or carry conceal licenses. HTH Conceal carry doesn't seem to stop people from trying to break into your house. Even though you might be home with your gun on your person. Or you might walk into the robbery while you have your piece on your hip. Or that the neighbor might be armed and notice you breaking in. MIT did a study in 2010 that showed it does. In December 2008, a Memphis, TNnewspaper published a searchable online database of names, zip codes, and ages of Tennessee handgun carry permit holders. Once news of the database publication spread, an intense and acrimonious debate arose. Permit holders ooded the newspaper demanding its removal, on the grounds that the database invaded their privacy. Gun rights associations argued that the newspaper had put law-abiding gun owners at risk, giving criminals a pathway to burglarize their homes. The newspaper responded by suggesting that any criminal who perused the database would, in fact, be more likely to avoid households they believed to contain guns. We use detailed crime and handgun carry permit data for Memphis to estimate the impact of the database publication on dierent types of crime. We find that crimes more likely to be affected by knowledge of gun ownership - such as burglaries - increased more significantly, after the database was publicized, in zip codes with fewer gun permits, and decreased in those with more gun permits. We find no comparable effect for crimes that are usually not premeditated, like assaults or shootings, or in nearby areas and comparable cities that were not covered by the published database. We also find no evidence that publishing the identities of gun permit holders led to a relative increase in crimes aimed at stealing their weapons. Our findings contribute to the debate on the privacy and security trade-offs associated with the online dissemination of potentially sensitive data. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted January 4, 2013 The really interesting thing about the break ins in places like Phoenix is the timing of them. They only occur when the house is empty....because the criminals know not to try to enter when anyone is home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted January 4, 2013 The really interesting thing about the break ins in places like Phoenix is the timing of them. They only occur when the house is empty....because the criminals know not to try to enter when anyone is home. That is why we have to talk about robberies not burglaries. See post #3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted January 4, 2013 That is why we have to talk about robberies not burglaries. See post #3. LOL! I had no idea anyone else actually read around here. I'll be keeping an eye on you, sugar... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,215 Posted January 6, 2013 The really interesting thing about the break ins in places like Phoenix is the timing of them. They only occur when the house is empty....because the criminals know not to try to enter when anyone is home. Also we have a lot of snowbirds so a lot of houses are uninhabited during the summer. Also also, we abut Mexico which has plenty of guns despite whatever laws they have in place, and if they don't have enough guns, our government will give them more so that they can cross over our pathetically-secured borders. That way they can commit burglaries when they aren't getting free health care and education. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,902 Posted January 6, 2013 Also we have a lot of snowbirds so a lot of houses are uninhabited during the summer. Also also, we abut Mexico which has plenty of guns despite whatever laws they have in place, and if they don't have enough guns, our government will give them more so that they can cross over our pathetically-secured borders. That way they can commit burglaries when they aren't getting free health care and education. Mexico actually has very few guns per capita compared to most nations but it's #1 in gun homicides. The US is the most heavily armed (per capita) industrialized nation and 2nd only to Mexico in gun-related homicides. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chronic Husker 85 Posted January 6, 2013 Also we have a lot of snowbirds so a lot of houses are uninhabited during the summer. Also also, we abut Mexico which has plenty of guns despite whatever laws they have in place, and if they don't have enough guns, our government will give them more so that they can cross over our pathetically-secured borders. That way they can commit burglaries when they aren't getting free health care and education. You need to lay off whatever radio you been mainlining. You didn't used to be like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,215 Posted January 6, 2013 You need to lay off whatever radio you been mainlining. You didn't used to be like this. Funny you should say that. I live in a border state so I see the impact. You don't, and the reality of the immigration problem of border states doesn't fit your liberal huffpo model, yet I am the one drinking the koolaid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 7, 2013 Mexico actually has very few guns per capita compared to most nations but it's #1 in gun homicides. Fast And Furious! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,902 Posted January 7, 2013 Fast And Furious! I think Mexico was #1 in homicides before Obummer came to office and wrecked your life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 497 Posted January 7, 2013 Mexico actually has very few guns per capita compared to most nations but it's #1 in gun homicides. That's because Mexicans are easy to shoot. Everyone knows it's harder to hit a moving target. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 7, 2013 That's because Mexicans are easy to shoot. Everyone knows it's harder to hit a moving target. Plus, Obama and Holder upgraded the weaponry of the bad guys in Mexico. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 497 Posted January 7, 2013 Plus, Obama and Holder upgraded the weaponry of the bad guys in Mexico. Who are the good guys in Mexico? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 7, 2013 Who are the good guys in Mexico? The guys in the white shorts at the all-inclusive resorts in Playa that bring me guacamole and a cold glass of Sol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted January 7, 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mSlUAJBGU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 497 Posted January 7, 2013 The guys in the white shorts at the all-inclusive resorts in Playa that bring me guacamole and a cold glass of Sol. Why would I want them to be better armed? Then I would have to start tipping them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites