The 2013 Dynasty Q & A thread

[madd futher mucker 36]

Last year 420allstars started a a general dynasty league Q & A tread which was a huge success and generated about 600 posts and over 20,ooo views. Now that 2013 has started, I noticed a great question by robocards in a post: Dynasty League - WRs - who do you like?

 

Since a general Q & A dynasty thread had not yet been started, I took the liberty of re-posting his question and the responses on this thread in hopes that we can keep this thread on or near the 1st page and have as good of an interaction about dynasty as last year. here goes:

 

 

robocards Q: Our keeper league has draft and salary combined & right now you can pick up "free agents" and "buy" salary down to $1... Looking at WR any 1st/2nd yr receivers you like out there that probably were UNdrafted

 

Guys like Hilton, Randle, Shorts all drafted...

 

I'm thinking

 

Michael Floyd AZ

Jeremy Kerley NYJ

Ryan Broyles DET

Brian Quick STL

Jariius Wright MIN

Marvin Jones CIN

Leonard Hankerson/ J Morgan/ A Robinson WAS

Doug Baldwin SEA

 

*** anybody see any of these guys stepping up to No 1 WR status or possibly catching 8+ TDs in pass happy offense??

 

Thanks RB

 

Kopy: Answer 1 - I'd grab Broyles as quick as I can. Everyone else, meh.

Maybe Jones would be worth a flier too. But I'm more of a Sanu guy myself.

 

420allstars: Answer 2 - Floyd still has a shot to be somthing IMO, he was my number one WR prospect heading into the draft last year and started to show some life in the 2nd half of the season..

 

Broyles can be a PPR force if he can manage to get himself back on the field long enough to learn the offence

 

those are the two I like.

 

MFM: Answer 3: I like all of the names mentioned above, and I've got quite a list in addition depending on how deep your dynasty league is - some of these guys may be rostered in your league (I'll go from shallowest to deepest leagues first) Julius Edelman, Duane Harris, Mohamed Sanu, Juron Criner, Jacoby Ford, Joe Adams, Cole Beasley, LaVonne Brazill, Dale Moss (Chi practice squad).

 

 

This worked so well last year, I suggest let's keep the Dynasty league questions and answers flowing here! Excellent topic to start it, BTW.

[madd futher mucker 36]

Sorry, I missed this reply as well:

According to Bengals.com's Geoff Hobson, the Bengals believe Marvin Jones is going to be A.J. Green's "running mate for a couple of terms." Jones was ahead of Mohamed Sanu on the depth chart before the two flip-flopped following Jones' late October MCL injury. Sanu was viewed as a long-term slot receiver after the 2012 draft, although Andrew Hawkins' emergence may delay that plan. We wouldn't be surprised to see Jones and Sanu splitting snaps in 2013. Jan 4 - 9:04 AM Source: bengals.com

 

Lions GM Martin Mayhew says Ryan Broyles (torn right ACL) "may not do much during camp and he may come on around midseason" in 2013. Broyles tore his ACL in Week 13 and will certainly be up against the clock to even make it back for Week 1 next season, but he's said he is "definitely shooting" for the opener. After tearing his left ACL in 2011, Broyles came into the NFL and didn't experience an offseason. He'll be in the same position this upcoming year. Broyles didn't make an impact until Week 7 this year, and we'd feel pretty comfortable predicting a similar return date in 2013. Jan 3 - 8:31 PM

 

This was a very good 'research' addition. Many of the guys mentioned are players you want as your 'lottery tickets'. As always, a few will hit big next year - most will not. And much will depend on how the coaching carousel finally ends and who the QB will be - Yes, I'm thinking of Michael Floyd as i type this.

[Matts Eagles 25]

6 pt TD league what would you look for when trading RGIII?

 

More info below 12 team dynasty PPR. start 1 qb, 2rbs, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 k , 1d 1 flex

 

I own picks 1.1, 2.3,2.7, 2.12

 

QB Rodgers, RGIII, Fitpatrick

 

RB Lynch, Turner, Reggie Bush, Jonathan Stewart,Deangelo Williams, Lamichael James

 

WR Michael Crabtree, Steve Smith (Car), Jeremy Maclin, Torrey Smith, Antonio Brown, Michael Floyd, Marvin Jones, Devonne Bess

 

TE Gronk, Fleener, Ben Watson, Ladarius Green

 

K Blair Walsh

 

D/ST Bills, Lions, Panthers

[Kopy 592]

Looks like a pretty tough draft class this year.

Very weak QB and TE's

And although their is pretty good depth at RB and WR, it doesn't look like any studs to me.

Normally I'd say theres a tier for the first couple of rounds.

Top 3 or so for Tier 1

Maybe picks 4 - 12 for tier 2

Tier 3 generally 13 - 20

 

But this year I'd say the top 15 picks are all really in the same group, just personall preference and draft situation would really seperate them.

No studs or wow factor to me.

 

I have to keep my thoughts to myself for alittle while as I have picks 4,5,8 and 11 this year.

But if your not desperate for a position, one might be better off trading out of this year for a first rounder next year.

I havn't really looked ahead too much, and confess, I'm only a pac 12 guy. But see a WR and a TE next year that will be game changers.

[WhiteWonder 2,925]

6 pt TD league what would you look for when trading RGIII?

 

More info below 12 team dynasty PPR. start 1 qb, 2rbs, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 k , 1d 1 flex

 

I own picks 1.1, 2.3,2.7, 2.12

 

QB Rodgers, RGIII, Fitpatrick

 

RB Lynch, Turner, Reggie Bush, Jonathan Stewart,Deangelo Williams, Lamichael James

 

WR Michael Crabtree, Steve Smith (Car), Jeremy Maclin, Torrey Smith, Antonio Brown, Michael Floyd, Marvin Jones, Devonne Bess

 

TE Gronk, Fleener, Ben Watson, Ladarius Green

 

K Blair Walsh

 

D/ST Bills, Lions, Panthers

 

No limit to how long you keep players? Then I find a qb needy team and ask for a rb and a draft pick.

[madd futher mucker 36]

No limit to how long you keep players? Then I find a qb needy team and ask for a rb and a draft pick.

 

Regarding MattsEagles question, I'd probably ask for a Richardson/ Martin type young stud RB and a full one round move-up of one of your lower draft picks.

 

 

Following up to Kopy: Some are saying that this is an extremely poor draft class and that you might be wise to trade your 2013 picks into 2014. I have not even started an organized study of this class, and while there is no-one who has really jumped out at me so far, IMO it is way to soon to give up on this draft class. This might be one of those classes where someone like Ray Graham (Pittsburgh) or (Utah State's) Kerwynn Williams could rise to the top of the class.

[Super Cubs 155]

6 pt TD league what would you look for when trading RGIII?

 

More info below 12 team dynasty PPR. start 1 qb, 2rbs, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 k , 1d 1 flex

 

I own picks 1.1, 2.3,2.7, 2.12

 

QB Rodgers, RGIII, Fitpatrick

 

RB Lynch, Turner, Reggie Bush, Jonathan Stewart,Deangelo Williams, Lamichael James

 

WR Michael Crabtree, Steve Smith (Car), Jeremy Maclin, Torrey Smith, Antonio Brown, Michael Floyd, Marvin Jones, Devonne Bess

 

TE Gronk, Fleener, Ben Watson, Ladarius Green

 

K Blair Walsh

 

D/ST Bills, Lions, Panthers

RG3 for AJ Green. I got a feeling he'll be a top 5 WR for a long time.

[Matts Eagles 25]

No limit to how long you keep players? Then I find a qb needy team and ask for a rb and a draft pick.

Full Dynasty no keeper limits..

[420allstars 13]

6 pt TD league what would you look for when trading RGIII?

 

More info below 12 team dynasty PPR. start 1 qb, 2rbs, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 k , 1d 1 flex

 

I own picks 1.1, 2.3,2.7, 2.12

 

QB Rodgers, RGIII, Fitpatrick

 

RB Lynch, Turner, Reggie Bush, Jonathan Stewart,Deangelo Williams, Lamichael James

 

WR Michael Crabtree, Steve Smith (Car), Jeremy Maclin, Torrey Smith, Antonio Brown, Michael Floyd, Marvin Jones, Devonne Bess

 

TE Gronk, Fleener, Ben Watson, Ladarius Green

 

K Blair Walsh

 

D/ST Bills, Lions, Panthers

 

are you dead set on moving RG3? I may move rodgers insted if his value was higher? for either guy I would be looking for a Top 5 RB and a quality WR,

[madd futher mucker 36]

are you dead set on moving RG3? I may move rodgers insted if his value was higher? for either guy I would be looking for a Top 5 RB and a quality WR,

 

This is a very good point. Also, strategically, I wouldn't necessarily make any offers right now. Instead I'd let the offers come to me. Your leaguemates are aware that you are sitting on two studs at QB. In a case like this, you will almost always be able to make a better deal if you let the other guy initiate the offer. With the whole offseason ahead of you, what is the rush to get something done?

[Kopy 592]

Regarding MattsEagles question, I'd probably ask for a Richardson/ Martin type young stud RB and a full one round move-up of one of your lower draft picks.

 

 

Following up to Kopy: Some are saying that this is an extremely poor draft class and that you might be wise to trade your 2013 picks into 2014. I have not even started an organized study of this class, and while there is no-one who has really jumped out at me so far, IMO it is way to soon to give up on this draft class. This might be one of those classes where someone like Ray Graham (Pittsburgh) or (Utah State's) Kerwynn Williams could rise to the top of the class.

 

 

I think he should ask for the moon, and if he doesn't get it, then stay with Rodgers and 3. In a dynasty he'd be holding 2 of the top 10 QB's in the 12 team league. I know leaving points on the bench really stinks, but think of the upside if one goes down with an injury. At 1.1 go BPA, 2.3 and 2.7 will be good players to, too. I'd say stay pat.

 

For Cubs. Go RG3 and the 2 seconds for Green and his first.

Over shoot and remind QB needy teams of exactly how good he is, and don't budge.

 

Madd - I'm gonna be really interested in your analysis for this year.

Like I said I hold 4 picks in round 1 and need RB's.

My league started 2 years ago, and I moved and traded (for this year) and built my team for good QB's,TE's'WR's for the first 2 years, knowing I'd be one position (RB with this years picks) away from the top dog for years, and years to come.

I went 3 and 10 year 1

and

5 and 8 year 2 with no backfield.

And I think my foundation/team is more than set and I still have all my future picks to boot.

I've spent alot of time with this years Rb's and I have 4 that I do call starting caliber backs.

1 more that I am warming up too.

And Lattimore is still a wild card. I think if teams are set, and don't really have a need. They have deep rosters, or I.R., or both. He could still be a good pick for you. sitting on him for 2 years might end up being a slam dunk. And if your already good, not a big loss if he never pans out.

[astriy 1]

are you dead set on moving RG3? I may move rodgers insted if his value was higher? for either guy I would be looking for a Top 5 RB and a quality WR,

 

I what universe is anyone going to offer him a top 5 rb AND a quality wr for a qb in a 12 team league?

[Kopy 592]

I was a Ray Graham fan at first myself. But I'm just not sure he's completely back from injury. He looks different out there to me. And at this point, with only 1 great season. I'm not sure he's any better than Dion Lewis was. Neither guy will be a McCoy in my book.

[Matts Eagles 25]

This is a very good point. Also, strategically, I wouldn't necessarily make any offers right now. Instead I'd let the offers come to me. Your leaguemates are aware that you are sitting on two studs at QB. In a case like this, you will almost always be able to make a better deal if you let the other guy initiate the offer. With the whole offseason ahead of you, what is the rush to get something done?

 

Definately not in a rush to deal...2 stud QBs and pick 1.1. I know i need to upgrade my RB and WR corps. Have recieved offers for both RG III and Rodgers but nothing I would consider.

[420allstars 13]

I what universe is anyone going to offer him a top 5 rb AND a quality wr for a qb in a 12 team league?

 

Nothing I hate more then a good pissing match but what did you have in mind?

[lesjroza 70]

I what universe is anyone going to offer him a top 5 rb AND a quality wr for a qb in a 12 team league?

 

 

I agree with this wholeheartedly. In fact, I think everyone who has suggested an asking price is too high by at least bit. I don't think it is my opinion of RGIII that has me off-base with the comments though, because I have a very high opinion of his value and see him as a top 5 dynasty QB for sure, top 3 depending on approach and makeup of the rest of the roster. In a 12 team league there are an awful lot of QBs who can get the job done for you without giving up a ton of points from that slot.

 

My preference is to look at trade values in terms of where players would go in a startup draft and while it's hard (and fun) to guess this time of year I think a top 5 back and AJ Green would both go before RG3 in most startups meaning the guy trading RGIII would probably owe value back in return not be expecting additional compensation. I'm not saying a trade like that couldn't be accomplished, but I think one would really need to find the right situation of QB need, RGIII love, and WR or RB excess on the part of the trade partner.

 

Just my opinion but a valuable and interesting discussion in any case.

[Matts Eagles 25]

I agree with this wholeheartedly. In fact, I think everyone who has suggested an asking price is too high by at least bit. I don't think it is my opinion of RGIII that has me off-base with the comments though, because I have a very high opinion of his value and see him as a top 5 dynasty QB for sure, top 3 depending on approach and makeup of the rest of the roster. In a 12 team league there are an awful lot of QBs who can get the job done for you without giving up a ton of points from that slot.

 

My preference is to look at trade values in terms of where players would go in a startup draft and while it's hard (and fun) to guess this time of year I think a top 5 back and AJ Green would both go before RG3 in most startups meaning the guy trading RGIII would probably owe value back in return not be expecting additional compensation. I'm not saying a trade like that couldn't be accomplished, but I think one would really need to find the right situation of QB need, RGIII love, and WR or RB excess on the part of the trade partner.

 

Just my opinion but a valuable and interesting discussion in any case.

 

 

Didnt want to get into too many specifics...The team that wants him has the following roster. I have not discussed anything was trying to come and gauge what everyone felt RGIIIs value was:

 

QB Bradford, Locker, Wheeden, Matt Flynn

RBs Richardson, Wilson, Hillman, Alfred Morris, Steven Jackson/Isaiah Pead, Donald Brown

WRs Nicks, Dez Bryant, Decker, Sid Rice, Kendall Wright

TE Fred Davis, Hernandez, Housler

[ralphster 274]

Didnt want to get into too many specifics...The team that wants him has the following roster. I have not discussed anything was trying to come and gauge what everyone felt RGIIIs value was:

 

QB Bradford, Locker, Wheeden, Matt Flynn

RBs Richardson, Wilson, Hillman, Alfred Morris, Steven Jackson/Isaiah Pead, Donald Brown

WRs Nicks, Dez Bryant, Decker, Sid Rice, Kendall Wright

TE Fred Davis, Hernandez, Housler

 

6 pt TD league so I'd keep Rogers and move RG3 for something like Richardson and a pick or Richardson and Decker. I know you want to ask for Richardson and Dez, but that's too much imo. You really only need to add 1 bellcow RB to pair with Lynch (Bush and one of Stewart/Williams should be serviceable as an RB3 next year) and another WR1. IF you're looking TRich/Dez try and package RG3 + one or more of your WR2/3s.

 

@ MADD:

 

Thanks for starting this thread. I'll be checking in often, and I look forward to seeing everyone's thoughts on next year's draft class.

[lesjroza 70]

Didnt want to get into too many specifics...The team that wants him has the following roster. I have not discussed anything was trying to come and gauge what everyone felt RGIIIs value was:

 

QB Bradford, Locker, Wheeden, Matt Flynn

RBs Richardson, Wilson, Hillman, Alfred Morris, Steven Jackson/Isaiah Pead, Donald Brown

WRs Nicks, Dez Bryant, Decker, Sid Rice, Kendall Wright

TE Fred Davis, Hernandez, Housler

 

If you don't hate Nicks and think he has a chance to come back as strong as previously (many had him as top 5 dynasty WR before this year) I think Nicks + Morris for RGII could be a good win/win for both rosters. Dez' value is probably all over the board with guys right now but Dez + Wilson for RGIII could be another win/win that I think will eventually come out in your favor as Wilson may eventually be a RB1. I think both deals are good for each roster and make sense with what I see as current startup values. Dez is the wildcard though some may have him nearly as high as AJ Green others at the middle/bottom of WR1 territory so getting it done may depend on the opinion of your trade partner.

 

I'm not saying you couldn't ask for more, but I just think those 2 options are about even by startup draft slot, would help both teams, and draft picks either way could grease the skids if neccesary.

[Super Cubs 155]

Didnt want to get into too many specifics...The team that wants him has the following roster. I have not discussed anything was trying to come and gauge what everyone felt RGIIIs value was:

 

QB Bradford, Locker, Wheeden, Matt Flynn

RBs Richardson, Wilson, Hillman, Alfred Morris, Steven Jackson/Isaiah Pead, Donald Brown

WRs Nicks, Dez Bryant, Decker, Sid Rice, Kendall Wright

TE Fred Davis, Hernandez, Housler

I would most likely pass for now, but if I had to choose I would try for Richardson and Wilson or Hillman. The problem is I don't see many dynasty owners willing to move Richardson. I'm not sold on Dez.

[Matts Eagles 25]

Decent 1st Fantasy draft article for 2013

 

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/story/21494569/offseason-extra-our-first-draft-of-2013

[Kopy 592]

RG3, Turner and 1.1 for Bradford, Richardson, and Decker?

[lesjroza 70]

Decent 1st Fantasy draft article for 2013

 

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/story/21494569/offseason-extra-our-first-draft-of-2013

 

 

Interesting article for redraft purposes but not indicative of dynasty values for the most part IMHO. The guys a PFF had a great and similar series of dynasty mocks done by "experts" throughout the offseason last year which I used in prep for a startup draft but most of their site has since gone pay and I don't know if they will do it again this year because I don't pay.

[WhiteWonder 2,925]

are you dead set on moving RG3? I may move rodgers insted if his value was higher? for either guy I would be looking for a Top 5 RB and a quality WR,

 

i would move RG3 for a number of reasons but two big ones being...

 

1. the awe factor and what he did this season as a rookie has his stock way inflated.

 

2. we saw him get nicked up a few times. i'd hang on to what we know is a sure thing in Rodgers and let someone else deal with the potential rg3 injury risk if it means getting a nice haul in return.

[Kopy 592]

Hey madd. Is their anyone you watched this year that you would dramatically change (good or bad) from your preseason rankings?

 

For me, at WR I was very disappointed in Juron Criner. I had him pretty high, erveryone else was about right.

 

And at RB, I'm still about the same. But 2 guys who I really like are

Robert Turbin, and Bernard Pierce. I think these 2 kids can be starters in the league.

[420allstars 13]

Just for fun I would love to get a general list together of everyones top 5 or 10 Dynasty asset's at each of the skill positions. I wont go first as I dont want to sway the votes but would be glad to figure out the ranks when its all done.

 

maybe better to start a new thread?

[WhiteWonder 2,925]

My list will probably be vastly different than most becauseI do not put a ton of stock in age but ill give it a go when im home from work

[The Next Generation 11]

Just for fun I would love to get a general list together of everyones top 5 or 10 Dynasty asset's at each of the skill positions. I wont go first as I dont want to sway the votes but would be glad to figure out the ranks when its all done.

 

maybe better to start a new thread?

 

10-team PPR Dynasty:

Rodgers

Stafford

Foster

McCoy

AJ Green

Cobb

Colston

J Graham

[420allstars 13]

10-team PPR Dynasty:

Rodgers

Stafford

Foster

McCoy

AJ Green

Cobb

Colston

J Graham

 

I was thinking more like a top 10wr, 10rb, 10TE and 10QB's

 

Maybe too much work?

[cbfalcon 827]

I was thinking more like a top 10wr, 10rb, 10TE and 10QB's

 

Maybe too much work?

 

Just put together quickly. May be forgetting someone.

 

QB:

1. Rodgers (clear as day without a doubt #1)

2. Luck (I think he is safer than Griffin)

3. RG3

4. Brees (Still has 3-5 years left)

5. Brady

6. Stafford

 

RB:

1. Richardson (21 years old. Younger than everyone else by 3 years)

2. Rice (only 25 years old)

3. Martin (24 years old)

4. Peterson (He is 27, but I think he may threaten the records)

5. Morris (24 yo)

6. Spiller (25 years old)

7. Charles (26 yo)

8. Foster (26 y0)

9. Lynch (26 yo, his running style scars me)

 

WR:

1. Megatron (Easy. at age 27, he will be top 5 for 8 more years)

2. AJ Green (In theory, he will make a big jump this next season)

3. Julio Jones

4. Dez

5. Marshall

6. D. Thomas

7. Crabtree (He is only 25 years old)

8. Cobb (I need to see more to go higher)

9. Harvin

10. Decker

[420allstars 13]

So it looks like there is some intrest here, I will start a new thread so as not to hijack this one!

[The Next Generation 11]

I was thinking more like a top 10wr, 10rb, 10TE and 10QB's

 

Maybe too much work?

 

Oh, I thought you were referring to my team, not my league. So you want top 10 for the league...gotcha.

[lesjroza 70]

I was thinking more like a top 10wr, 10rb, 10TE and 10QB's

 

Maybe too much work?

 

I think this type of list is much more difficult in a dyansty league than redraft not only because consideration for projected remaining career must be considered but also the makeup of the overall roster and the current level of competitiveness within the league. A case could be made for RGIII or Luck being in the top 3 QBs for some rosters while Brady or Brees could be the obvious choice for others, that said here is my shot at personal ranks.

 

12 teams PPR assumed

 

QB

Rodgers

 

Luck

RGII

Brees

Brady

 

Ryan

Stafford

Newton

 

The next tier is large. Move up Brees Brady to the top of tier and P. Manning into 3rd tier in some cases depending on the rest of the roster

 

 

 

RB

 

A.P

Foster

Rice

 

Martin

TRich

McCoy

 

 

 

Charles

Spiller

Lynch

Forte

 

Let's see what happens with Lynch's offseason, there is still ???s about DUI case, punishment, if suspended could be on last strike after?

 

 

WR

 

Calvin

 

AJ Green

 

Julio

Dez

Percy

D. Thomas

B. Marsh

 

Next tier pretty big , not ready to put Cobb above but thought seriously about it.

 

TE

 

Gronk

 

Graham

 

Hernandez

 

I am willing to let others figure out the rest both figuratively here and literally in my leagues. In the 2 shallower dynasty leagues I am in with 17 roster slots I have literally played matchups with my TEs picking up and dropping TEs all year long and playing the strong matchups and trends which have been fairly predictable because some teams are so bad against the TE.

I lost just a little bit of points from that slot to Gronk and Graham last year and have actually gained a point advantage on EVERY other team throughout this year with that tactic.

In the 24 slot TE premium league this tactic is not an option, but even there, I don't think I know enough to be able to differentiate significntly from the next group of TEs which will outproduce over the course of the year. If you say you can, I will give you a nod and politely disagree because I don't think it is my lack of knowledge, I just think these guys phase in and out of their respective Os throughout the year. The good TEs take a beating more than any other position facing DL, LBs,and launching safties and then play with injuries but become relegated to the 4th receiving option on the team until they are healthy again which may not even be in that year. Anyway, I will use my firepower elsewhere generally but young TEs I think are worth holding or aquiring at the right price would be Rudolph and D. Allen.

[Evil Genius 0]

In Dynasty play, you may be able to grab a couple guys as throw in's, or in Free Agency or the Rookie Draft - depending on your league and its depth and/or rules.

 

The depth of your league is key - in 20-man rosters, you might not care about any of these guys. In 30-man rosters, you probably will.

 

In terms of those borderline prospects or guys on the edge that emerge from time to time, or injured guys that may fly under the radar.

 

DuJuan Harris in Green Bay. May just steal the job from Green, Benson and Starks. If he does, he might be relevant in PPR in 2013.

 

Bernard Pierce in Baltimore. He is likely owned, sure. But if not by the Rice owner, then he might be worth targeting. I don't know - I keep reading stuff about this guy - it started in Sports Illustrated where 'NFL insiders' kept saying "this guy has a future in the league". As such, I have this strange feeling about him that somehow he gets a gig in the next couple.

 

Vincent Brown in San Diego. Might have been a really good year for him if he hadn't gotten hurt. Now will contend with Alexander.

 

Morgan and Toon in New Orleans. Either could emerge as a threat with Brees in 2013.

 

Fred Davis in Washington. If he does come back strong (hard to say), he could be a man not forgotten in the Skins offense.

[Stewburtx8 67]

I was thinking more like a top 10wr, 10rb, 10TE and 10QB's

 

Maybe too much work?

 

This was done really quickly. I do not currently play in a dynasty league so I haven't put a ton of thought in to this. But this would be my very rough rankings that I would open for discussion. Personally, I agree with White Wonder that I don't tend to value age as much. I am usually looking at a 2-3 year "window" of production and will use long term value to break ties most of the time. I do think the QB position is the hardest to rank. I'd still rather Brees/Brady for the next 3-5 years over Luck, but you may get another 10 years out of Luck. I could argue ranking those 3 in any order. RG3 is hard to rank due to the injuries he is suffering already. Has the ceiling to be #1 but obviously has a lot of risk associated with him I think. I also struggled with the RB rankings from #3 through #8 or so. Very interchangeable in my opinion based on personal preference. This is based on PPR:

 

QB- Rodgers, Newton, Luck, Brees, Brady, Griffin, Peyton, Wilson, Ryan, Stafford

 

RB- Peterson, Foster, Martin, Rice, Charles, Spiller, McCoy, Richardson, Lynch, A.Morris

 

WR- Calvin, AJ Green, Marshall, Bryant, D.Thomas, J.Jones, Harvin, A.Johnson, Cobb, R.White

 

TE- Gronk, Graham, Hernandez, Witten, Gresham/Myers/Olsen/Daniels?

[420allstars 13]

So it looks like there is some intrest here, I will start a new thread so as not to hijack this one!

[robocardz 14]

What about thoughts on "veterans" that many think may be over the hill ??

 

I've always enjoyed drafting guys like this -- but am leary of "overpaying" as many often draft off of "past" performance...

 

IE -- This year I got Marques Colston for about 30% UNDER average value for a #1 WR ...

 

Who do you guys like next year... as "could be bargains"

 

My thoughts:

 

RB:

MJD

Fred Taylor (even though I am a Spiller owner)

Rashard Mendenhall

 

WR:

Dwayne Bowe

Andre Johnson (if that is possible )

Santonio Holmes

Steve Smith

 

QB:

Philip Rivers

 

Thoughts?? Others??

 

RB

[The Next Generation 11]

What about thoughts on "veterans" that many think may be over the hill ??

 

I've always enjoyed drafting guys like this -- but am leary of "overpaying" as many often draft off of "past" performance...

 

IE -- This year I got Marques Colston for about 30% UNDER average value for a #1 WR ...

 

Who do you guys like next year... as "could be bargains"

 

My thoughts:

 

RB:

MJD

Fred Taylor (even though I am a Spiller owner)

Rashard Mendenhall

 

WR:

Dwayne Bowe

Andre Johnson (if that is possible )

Santonio Holmes

Steve Smith

 

QB:

Philip Rivers

 

Thoughts?? Others??

 

RB

 

I'm 99.999999999999999999999999999999999% sure he is DONE!

[Kopy 592]

Hey madd. Is their anyone you watched this year that you would dramatically change (good or bad) from your preseason rankings?

 

For me, at WR I was very disappointed in Juron Criner. I had him pretty high, everyone else was about right.

 

And at RB, I'm still about the same. But 2 guys who I really like are

Robert Turbin, and Bernard Pierce. I think these 2 kids can be starters in the league.

Gonna ^ my own question as Madd hasn't been around in a while.

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DuJuan Harris in Green Bay. May just steal the job from Green, Benson and Starks. If he does, he might be relevant in PPR in 2013.

 

 

 

Picked him up a few weeks ago both in a dynasty league and in a limited keeper/auction league. Seems to be getting better each week. Small, but runs hard and also seems to be increasingly used in the passing game. Longshot, but sometimes they pan out.