New England rb situation?

[svtballa 8]

Last night Ridley went for 92 and a td..Blount went for 100 and 2 tds.. Vareen caught and awesome td pass......Now I know Phillys D is bad news. But what do you make of this mess? Blounts first year he looked awesome..Them kinda fell off?

[heavy-set 39]

in ppr its a moot point, ridley falls off the face of the earth for me.

 

but, I wont touch a NE rb. its one giant RBBC.

[TennisMenace 156]

Good question. I had Ridley last year and suffered through it. I think this year is even worse. RBBC for sure.

[Criper 24]

in ppr its a moot point, ridley falls off the face of the earth for me.

 

but, I wont touch a NE rb. its one giant RBBC.

Let's see, Ridley had 1263 yards and 12 TD's last year. That's not a RBBC. Sure, Ridley isn't going to catch many passes, but last time I checked, PPR leagues still rewarded points for rushing yardage and TDs. Everyone has a role in NE. Ridley is the bell cow on early downs and the GL back. Vereen is the 3rd down hybrid back taking on some of the role Hernandez had last year, so he'll be on the field in most packages. Blounts' role is still to be determined, but if the Pats keep five backs, then Blount figures to spell Ridley and perhaps become the clock killer when the Pats have a big lead. Bolden is still there too, and Leon Washington figures to have some 3rd down work occasionally, even when Vereen is on the field and moves outside in some packages. There's enough touches for both Ridley and Vereen to be valuable in both PPR and standard leagues. Blount, Bolden, and Washington are depth with compliment/back up roles, and I wouldn't be surprised to see the Pats feature Blount or Bolden throughout the preseason, and then trade one of them to a RB needy team prior to opening day for a draft pick. Blount is signed for peanuts, and it's just like the Pats to turn nothing into something and gain another draft pick.

[heavy-set 39]

Let's see, Ridley had 1263 yards and 12 TD's last year. That's not a RBBC. Sure, Ridley isn't going to catch many passes, but last time I checked, PPR leagues still rewarded points for rushing yardage and TDs. Everyone has a role in NE. Ridley is the bell cow on early downs and the GL back. Vereen is the 3rd down hybrid back taking on some of the role Hernandez had last year, so he'll be on the field in most packages. Blounts' role is still to be determined, but if the Pats keep five backs, then Blount figures to spell Ridley and perhaps become the clock killer when the Pats have a big lead. Bolden is still there too, and Leon Washington figures to have some 3rd down work occasionally, even when Vereen is on the field and moves outside in some packages. There's enough touches for both Ridley and Vereen to be valuable in both PPR and standard leagues. Blount, Bolden, and Washington are depth with compliment/back up roles, and I wouldn't be surprised to see the Pats feature Blount or Bolden throughout the preseason, and then trade one of them to a RB needy team prior to opening day for a draft pick. Blount is signed for peanuts, and it's just like the Pats to turn nothing into something and gain another draft pick.

 

yea but, this year isnt last year. there is a stable of backs in NE, dont forget brandon bolden. blount is there now and wasnt last year.

1300 total yards and 12 tds just doesnt cut it in ppr. to me, that is his ceiling, but i have been wrong before

[famousb 11]

Ridley is a 14ppg PPR guy. Since he doesn't get many recs, you have to rely on him getting TDs to break into the double-digit scoring on a weekly basis (unless you believe he's a 100 yd per week rusher, which i don't see that consistency coming from the NE O...). So don't draft him expecting him to consistently score 18-20ppg, he may have a few 2 TD games, but that doesn't provide consistency...

[Djgb13 2,338]

Ppr is completely different from standard. And in standard Ridley is a nice RB2.

[Criper 24]

 

but i have been wrong before

As have I lol. I still wouldn't be shy of drafting Ridley even in PPR. He's gonna be fine. I have him currently at RB20 in PPR and RB12 in standard scoring. There's still a decent chance the Patriots don't keep both Bolden and Blount. This latest blurb jives with what I stated in my earlier post.

 

 

"The Boston Globe believes second-year RB Brandon Bolden "should be worried about his job" after LeGarrette Blount's big preseason opener.

Blount's monster night (11-101-2) mostly resulted from an awful defensive effort by Philadelphia, but Blount played ahead of Bolden, who was limited to 14 yards on four carries. For the moment at least, Blount appears to be Stevan Ridley's primary back as the early-down pounder. Shane Vereen is the pace-change back, passing-down specialist, and open-field movable chess piece."

[IGotWorms 3,317]

Ridley about the same as last year.

 

Vereen like Woodhead, but better.

 

Blount primary backup to Ridley, but won't get consistent carries as long as Ridley is there. Good injury stash though.

 

Leon Washington used perhaps a tad more in the offense than he was in Seattle, but still just a blip.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

 

yea but, this year isnt last year. there is a stable of backs in NE, dont forget brandon bolden. blount is there now and wasnt last year.

1300 total yards and 12 tds just doesnt cut it in ppr. to me, that is his ceiling, but i have been wrong before

Except for the fact that bolden isnt as talented as any of the three above mentioned rbs. I understand th rbbbbc approach, but when the fourth rb is clearly less talented giving him much more than a touch a game doesnt make sense. Injury could change that, but no matter how many differenr looks you want to give D it only makes sense when you are playing your best players.

[weepaws 2,461]

will with the te problems the pats are having i think ridley will catch a little bit more passes but vereen looks real good he made a awsome catch ..has for blount heck it was a td late in the first preseason game ... its ridley and vereen ..i like ridley cause i dont see why he wont do what he did last season plus had a few more rec .imo

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

will with the te problems the pats are having i think ridley will catch a little bit more passes but vereen looks real good he made a awsome catch ..has for blount heck it was a td late in the first preseason game ... its ridley and vereen ..i like ridley cause i dont see why he wont do what he did last season plus had a few more rec .imo

Keep up your shltty analysis.

[heavy-set 39]

Ridley is a 14ppg PPR guy. Since he doesn't get many recs, you have to rely on him getting TDs to break into the double-digit scoring on a weekly basis (unless you believe he's a 100 yd per week rusher, which i don't see that consistency coming from the NE O...). So don't draft him expecting him to consistently score 18-20ppg, he may have a few 2 TD games, but that doesn't provide consistency...

exactly.

 

and in the 2nd round, I can get a 90-100 catch 1300 yard wr with 10 tds

[5Year1 23]

Have him as #20 RB in a PPR, just above DMC. Don't like the situation, especially with Vereen.

[traders2001 0]

Vereen will be used all over the place, he will lineup as a WR , TE etc. So you will see Ridley and Vereen on the field often.

 

Ridley will probably play more snaps then last year at RB and put up same number or better.

 

Blount wont be a factor unless Ridley gets injured.

 

1300 yds - 12 Td's makes him a low end number 1 .

[CSWR 0]

I had Ridley last year and although I was ticked every time he was taken out of the game he performed very well overall. I was a little nervous about seeing more Vereen and goalline carries to Blount so I passed on him this year.

[onejayhawk 3]

A lot of people are expecting the Patriots to fall off because of the damage to the WR corps. Instead, i think you will see a much more ground oriented offense. I would have no problem taking Ridley in round 2 of most drafts. In deeper leagues, especially PPR, Vereen is a decent flex option. This is a very good grind it out unit, with Brady's arm as the change of pace and fall back option.

[RoadLizard 73]

Good question. I had Ridley last year and suffered through it. I think this year is even worse. RBBC for sure.

I did too - and the dude actually had monster stats on PAPER. However, like some other players out there, the stats dont translate into fantasy happiness. Ridley disappeared or lost big chunks of playing time to whatever short, fat white guy Belichick decided to feed the ball to. Or, Danny Woodfock. I guess we should have known this heading into it but I got Ridley fairly late in the draft and thought I stole him. The guy had some good games for me but hes one of those frustrating fantasy players that you cant bench because he couold "go off" but you hate starting him because the Pats could decide that Shane Vereen or whomever will get the ball that week. Ugh.

 

Hes also kind of a fumbler...which facilitates losing playing time.

 

Im in a keepr league and honestly, I dont think Im going to keep him. By cutting him, someone else will draft him and then deal with the headaches. That also means a better player will hopefully slide to me. Im DONE with NE's running game. Heck - Brady and the Kicker are almost the only players you can really trust on the Pats.

[e-factor 13]

Keep up your shltty analysis.

Actually, it was a decent take on the situation.................

[Matt Mueller 146]

Vereen will be used all over the place, he will lineup as a WR , TE etc. So you will see Ridley and Vereen on the field often.

 

Ridley will probably play more snaps then last year at RB and put up same number or better.

 

Blount wont be a factor unless Ridley gets injured.

 

1300 yds - 12 Td's makes him a low end number 1 .

 

I concur. I think Hernandez's loss forces Vereen to be used enough that I don't think he really interferes with Ridley's usage or snaps.

[WR Guru 31]

If Ridley avoids fumbling problems, he should have no trouble repeating 1,000+ yards and double digit TDs. He'll disappear against the tougher run defenses when the Pats go pass-happy- that's the biggest knock on him. Solid RB2.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Actually, it was a decent take on the situation.................

I didn't realize using zero punctuation and misspelling half of your post was considered good analysis.

 

It's obviously some douche bag who wants attention for purposely being an idiot. The fact that every time he starts his post with "well" he misspells it "will" should tell you he doesn't really give a shlt.

[IGotWorms 3,317]

If Ridley avoids fumbling problems, he should have no trouble repeating 1,000+ yards and double digit TDs. He'll disappear against the tougher run defenses when the Pats go pass-happy- that's the biggest knock on him. Solid RB2.

 

I think the Pats will be a little less pass happy this year too. I think they know they're attack, while hugely successful in the regular season, becomes stale and predictable as against elite defenses in the post-season, I expect more emphasis on the run as a way to combat this.

 

Another plus with running more is, in bug games they've lost recently, they tend to jump out to big leads early but then can't hold on. Part if that was their sh!tty secondary, which they have tried very hard to address over the last year, but it was also due to the lack of a reliable grind-it-out run game that could be effective even when the defense wasn't totally geared up to stop the pass. I expect the Pats will try very hard to build that type of run game this year.

[BobSanders_33 127]

In standard scoring I think that Ridley is an excellent value in the second round. I don't understand this "suffered through" Ridley's production last year. He is rated 9th RB overall by the fftoday consistency calculator being elite 31.25% and #1 56.25%. He was rated subpar 43.75% of the time which may seem like a lot but only 5 RBs rated better than him in that category.

 

I think there is way too much being read into Blount's fluke run against a horrible 2nd or 3rd team Eagles D. Blount is no threat. Vereen will get some snaps and will be used in a number of ways but that could be offset by NE being more run heavy and especially on the goal line without Gronk for the first 6 weeks.

[e-factor 13]

I didn't realize using zero punctuation and misspelling half of your post was considered good analysis.

 

It's obviously some douche bag who wants attention for purposely being an idiot. The fact that every time he starts his post with "well" he misspells it "will" should tell you he doesn't really give a shlt.

 

Don't care about the spelling or punctuation.

 

Basically said Ridley would catch more passes this year based on missing Hernandez and Welker and Gronk. Vereen will be good and don't attach any significance to Blounts long run in preseason against scrubs. Ridley and Vereen will be the guys to own.

 

There must be some kind of board drama I am missing out on, but in this case, as good of analysis as anyone else in the thread..........