Beast Mode being ignored?

[mgs316 14]

1400+ total yards two seasons in a row.

Double digit tds two seasons in a row.

Absolutely no competition for starting job.

Not really that many carries over his career or over used the past two seasons.

Team with Super Bowl aspirations.

 

Yet I see him ranked outside the top 5 much of the time.

 

Why?

[browns16-0 30]

His value is tied to ppr vs non-ppr leagues. Same as Alfred Morris.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I think its part the PPR thing...part people know what they have in him.

They want to big upside...rather than steady production.

 

This situation reminds me of 2004-2006 Rudi Johnson.

[mgs316 14]

I think its part the PPR thing...part people know what they have in him.

They want to big upside...rather than steady production.

 

This situation reminds me of 2004-2006 Rudi Johnson.

Loved me some rudi Johnson. Good comp but lynch has more talent I would think, hope there is a little upside like a 14-16 td season.

[famousb 11]

I think its part the PPR thing...part people know what they have in him.

They want to big upside...rather than steady production.

 

This situation reminds me of 2004-2006 Rudi Johnson.

this.

[CSWR 0]

He's dropping pretty hard, even in standard scoring systems. I'm still not sure why, but people drafting toward the end of round 1 are benefitting.

[Natetradomus 0]

It's hard for a RB to produce as well as he has a third season in a row. I saw at best he gets close to his numbers from last year, but most likely will start a slow decline like most RB do. Not saying he is old, just saying that a RB prime is a very small window. That NFC west is no joke on defense either. Cards and Rams are decent and the 9ers will put the vice grip to his nuts and make him taste the rainbow.

[TwentyFourSeven 23]

It's hard for a RB to produce as well as he has a third season in a row. I saw at best he gets close to his numbers from last year, but most likely will start a slow decline like most RB do. Not saying he is old, just saying that a RB prime is a very small window. That NFC west is no joke on defense either. Cards and Rams are decent and the 9ers will put the vice grip to his nuts and make him taste the rainbow.

As far as the 49ers defense goes... that's what everyone thought last year and he did well against them both times.

[dehaven123 31]

It's hard for a RB to produce as well as he has a third season in a row. I saw at best he gets close to his numbers from last year, but most likely will start a slow decline like most RB do. Not saying he is old, just saying that a RB prime is a very small window. That NFC west is no joke on defense either. Cards and Rams are decent and the 9ers will put the vice grip to his nuts and make him taste the rainbow.

 

ur right about the decline for studs, but its more likely to start after yr4 or 5 of most stud RB's careers. lynch doesn't have huge wear. i expect lynch to benefit from his situation and beat last yr's #'s. 310/1501/14.

[IGotWorms 4,053]

Lotta touches. You'd think Seattle will try to spell him a little more this year to be sure he's fresh for a deep playoff run. They did take an RB in the second round.

 

Not saying it's right, but I think that's why people are being a little bearish on him.

[mgs316 14]

Lotta touches. You'd think Seattle will try to spell him a little more this year to be sure he's fresh for a deep playoff run. They did take an RB in the second round.

 

Not saying it's right, but I think that's why people are being a little bearish on him.

 

310 and 335 is not what I'd consider overworked at all.

[IGotWorms 4,053]

 

310 and 335 is not what I'd consider overworked at all.

Wow, really? 315 (last year) was the 5th most carries of anyone in the league. 335 would've been good for third.

 

How many carries does it take for that in your mind?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,088]

guys used to carry the ball 400 times.

 

you know whats wierd, Lynch came into the league as a 3rd down back, and now all of a sudden he cant catch and comes out on passing downs

[ian Potter 9]

Dropping because he has little upside; especially PPR. What you've seen from him the last two years is his ceiling. Guys like McCoy, Richardson, etc are involved in the passing game and have ample opportunity to make up points when they don't get in the endzone. Lynch can't do this because he's not a 3 down back. Take into account a possible suspension during playoff time. Hard to win playoffs when your #1 pick can't play. Yes, he ran well against the 49ers but they were the 4th best defense last year. Also, think the Cardinals and Rams are going to have much better defenses this year along with improved offenses. There will be less opportunity for him to score.

 

Another factor is the confidence and play of Wilson. They will still be a run first team but they won't be nearly as run dominant as they have been in the last two years.

[TwentyFourSeven 23]

Dropping because he has little upside; especially PPR. What you've seen from him the last two years is his ceiling. Guys like McCoy, Richardson, etc are involved in the passing game and have ample opportunity to make up points when they don't get in the endzone. Lynch can't do this because he's not a 3 down back. Take into account a possible suspension during playoff time. Hard to win playoffs when your #1 pick can't play. Yes, he ran well against the 49ers but they were the 4th best defense last year. Also, think the Cardinals and Rams are going to have much better defenses this year along with improved offenses. There will be less opportunity for him to score.

 

Another factor is the confidence and play of Wilson. They will still be a run first team but they won't be nearly as run dominant as they have been in the last two years.

 

I'll spin this the other way. With the rest of the offense playing so well, it'll open things up a bit and give them more chances down by the end zone.

[Gladiators 1,961]

I'll spin this the other way. With the rest of the offense playing so well, it'll open things up a bit and give them more chances down by the end zone.

 

Exactly...It's the same as the argument about whether it's better to have a good/great WR opposite the #1 guy. For the elite WR's, it doesn't matter...And you'd prefer your stud to be getting almost all the looks. On the flip side, you can argue having another good WR will reduce the amount of double coverage the #1 guy sees. In the end, the studs get it done either way.

[Djgb13 2,339]

I'll spin this the other way. With the rest of the offense playing so well, it'll open things up a bit and give them more chances down by the end zone.

 

I concur

[mgs316 14]

Wow, really? 315 (last year) was the 5th most carries of anyone in the league. 335 would've been good for third.

 

How many carries does it take for that in your mind?

Those were total touches, not carries. He had 280 and 315 for carries or something like that. I always look at 350 as the breakdown number.

[ian Potter 9]

I'll spin this the other way. With the rest of the offense playing so well, it'll open things up a bit and give them more chances down by the end zone.

 

No argument here. Option QB systems tend to open up the running game. I think he's numbers are going to be slightly down. 1200-1300 yards, same TD total. I'm thinking he won't hit the 300 mark and will end up with slightly little less yardage due to 30-40 less carries. I just think you've seen the most that you'll get out of him as an RB. Also wondering if there is the potential for him to be off the field more if they don't value you as a receiving threat. Not saying he can't do it.

 

Suspension is also the other factor. If he doesn't play in two or so games that will be 125-200 less yards and possibly a couple TDs.

 

All I'm saying is I'd rather have guys like McCoy, Trich who are being drafted after him. More opportunities for them to score points.

[robocardz 14]

In my draft NON - PPR

 

He was taken 1.3 in BOTH leagues

 

AP, Foster, Lynch in both ....

 

Both leagues are established leagues an generally have people who so their homework FWIW ....

RB

[TwentyFourSeven 23]

I don't see a legit chance of him getting suspended at all this year. the case was pushed back until December if I remember correctly. The league will take time after that to discuss and hand down the suspension.

[DrMantisToboggan 5]

Was he in a contract year last yr?

[Serpent 51]

Who are you going to put him over?

 

AP

Jamal Charles

Doug Martin

CJ Spiller

LeSean McCoy

Arian Foster

Trent Richardson

Ray Rice

 

It's not like those guys are chumps. I don't think AP, Foster and Charles are a stretch being above him. But personally I like Spiller and McCoy better than him pretty easily, and I'm sure others like some of these other guys more too.

[seadog54 20]

 

All I'm saying is I'd rather have guys like McCoy, Trich who are being drafted after him. More opportunities for them to score points.

 

I dunno about that. Seattle is a better team than Philly and Cleveland and will be leading in most of their games. Thats when beast mode dominates and controls the clock.

 

As for the suspension, he got a good lawyer. There isn't even a court date scheduled for this year. So the chance of him going to any sort of a trial in the regular season is highly unlikely.

[ian Potter 9]

 

I dunno about that. Seattle is a better team than Philly and Cleveland and will be leading in most of their games. Thats when beast mode dominates and controls the clock.

 

As for the suspension, he got a good lawyer. There isn't even a court date scheduled for this year. So the chance of him going to any sort of a trial in the regular season is highly unlikely.

 

I was under the impression something was set for Dec and it was possible he could be suspended.

 

Another way to spin it is if games are that out of control they could sit him. I personally like the system that McCoy and T rich are in and would rather role the dice on them than Lynch. I'm not saying he's not a stud, I'd just think the others offer more upside.

 

I'd personally put Lynch towards the back of the top 10 and move McCoy, T rich, and Spiller ahead of him. Regardless, he's going to score plenty this year and serve as an RB1.

[stonewall 647]

Would love to get me some Skittles and Alf at the turn.

[crazywhorse 6]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000216496/article/marshawn-lynch-seahawks-rb-has-delay-in-dui-case

 

 

Seattle Seahawks running back Marshawn Lynch won't have a trial in California for his DUI case until December, at the earliest.

 

Lynch's court date on a motion to suppress evidence in Alameda County Superior Court from his July 2012 arrest has been continued until Nov. 1, Alameda Assistant District Attorney Teresa Drenick told NFL Network and NFL.com.

The delay first was reported by the Tacoma News Tribune. If the two sides cannot reach agreement, there will be a hearing to determine trial readiness on Dec. 27.

The delay means Lynch is unlikely to have a trial until after the 2013 NFL season. Because the NFL is reluctant to impose discipline before the legal process plays out, the Seahawks probably won't have to worry about losing Lynch to suspension during the season.

Lynch previously was suspended three games in 2009 after he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor gun charge in Culver City, Calif.

 

Looks like his lawyers will drag this out until after the season. So it's safe to say this won't affect Lynch this season.

[chroniciguana 13]

As in most places, Washington state's judges and prosecutors are elected. The folks doing the electing in Washington state are, most likely, Seahawk fans. Solely in the interest of justice, of course, it's probably safe to suggest there won't be a rush to judgment in this case as long as the Seahawks are still on the field.