gcmmidwest 98 Posted September 4, 2013 i'm thinking this guy is way under valued ...,thinking of swapping him out this week for reggie bush ..i like the tasty oakland matchup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackYourNut 47 Posted September 4, 2013 Do not swap him out for Bush... He is undervalued, but there is no indication how much he will play this week. My guess is 15 touches, would should be a good flex play. Play Bush while he's healthy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted September 4, 2013 Risk reward. This could be one of his best games of the season IF he gets the touches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 4, 2013 Folks, report is he hasn't even practiced with the first team yet. This isn't the NYGiants. The Colts run game just doesn't provide the holes that the NY Giant's offensive does. At best i see only 8-10 carries. I say hold off and watch the situation... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svtballa 8 Posted September 4, 2013 i dont like bradshaw this year at all...His on a throw first team and lets face it..hes injury prone and his best years are behind him...ill pass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 4, 2013 i dont like bradshaw this year at all...His on a throw first team and lets face it..hes injury prone and his best years are behind him...ill pass Correct, in a throw first offense i highly doubt the Colts will allow their Golden Boy to take on unwarranted risk on a miss block assignment by Bradsaw, who hasn't even practiced with the FIRST TEAM YET. On top of this, Ballard finished 'okay' last season with that horrid offensive line. Barring injuries, i think Bradshaw will be in a RBBC situation most of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 98 Posted September 4, 2013 i dont like bradshaw this year at all...His on a throw first team and lets face it..hes injury prone and his best years are behind him...ill pass guess i'm a little confused what does this mean ? With new offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton saying the team is in "run first" mode, a healthy Bradshaw may be a bigger part of the team's Week 1 plans against the Raiders than Pagano is letting on. Downgrade him a bit for injury speculation and the chance he doesn't play much, but Bradshaw has a history of shrugging off injury and playing, is working in a run-first offense, and could be a surprisingly decent flex option for Week 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasy Noob 10 Posted September 4, 2013 Don't get cute in week one and make a wack roster decision. What's the upside? You impress a bunch of dudes playing FF...most of us will still probably disagree with you out of spite. I agree wait till Bradshaw shows something, I am actually leaning the other way and see him as potential WW fodder early. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Houston Texans 10 Posted September 4, 2013 Correct, in a throw first offense i highly doubt the Colts will allow their Golden Boy to take on unwarranted risk on a miss block assignment by Bradsaw, who hasn't even practiced with the FIRST TEAM YET. On top of this, Ballard finished 'okay' last season with that horrid offensive line. Barring injuries, i think Bradshaw will be in a RBBC situation most of the season. You do realize that Bradshaw is one of the best pass blocking RBs in the NFL, don't you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the spanker 28 Posted September 5, 2013 You do realize that Bradshaw is one of the best pass blocking RBs in the NFL, don't you? I was just about to post the same reply, except he graded out as the BEST pass blocking RB in the NFL last year. Some guys just don't know what they are talking about. The difference between Ballard and Bradshaw is night and day, Bradshaw is superior in all aspects of the game, pass blocking, between the numbers, GL carries. Ballard is a plodder and average at best. Oh and Bradshaw is only 27. If he comes back healthy he will be the best undervalued RB in this years drafts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 98 Posted September 5, 2013 I was just about to post the same reply, except he graded out as the BEST pass blocking RB in the NFL last year. Some guys just don't know what they are talking about. The difference between Ballard and Bradshaw is night and day, Bradshaw is superior in all aspects of the game, pass blocking, between the numbers, GL carries. Ballard is a plodder and average at best. Oh and Bradshaw is only 27. If he comes back healthy he will be the best undervalued RB in this years drafts. yup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted September 5, 2013 I was just about to post the same reply, except he graded out as the BEST pass blocking RB in the NFL last year. Some guys just don't know what they are talking about. The difference between Ballard and Bradshaw is night and day, Bradshaw is superior in all aspects of the game, pass blocking, between the numbers, GL carries. Ballard is a plodder and average at best. Oh and Bradshaw is only 27. If he comes back healthy he will be the best undervalued RB in this years drafts. This. guess i'm a little confused what does this mean ? With new offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton saying the team is in "run first" mode, a healthy Bradshaw may be a bigger part of the team's Week 1 plans against the Raiders than Pagano is letting on. Downgrade him a bit for injury speculation and the chance he doesn't play much, but Bradshaw has a history of shrugging off injury and playing, is working in a run-first offense, and could be a surprisingly decent flex option for Week 1. And no way in hell is Indy turning into a "run first team". Why turn your offense strategy completely upside down from a pass first team to a run first team. You are probably getting confused from the coach saying they are going to try to be more balanced. Which I see nothing wrong with and Bradshaw will be the guy to do that with. Luck is too talented and has good weapons around him not to be a pass first team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted September 5, 2013 Bradshaw has always been criminally undervalued. He's a tough, dynamic player that has consistently finished in the top 20 in a system that has been RBBC since Joe Meggett and Ottis Anderson. The Giants practically invented RBBC. Ballard is a plodder. He doesn't even have the same kinds of skills Brandon Jacobs has, although he is younger. Bradshaw is also an excellent goal line back. He adds a dimension to the Colts offense that they haven't had since Edgerrin James. I drafted Bradshaw this year as my #2 RB in my big money league. I just don't see much benefit to giving Ballard a lot of carries, other than to spell Bradshaw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 98 Posted September 5, 2013 Most importantly Bradshaw signed a one year deal .., so if he wants any future $$$ he will be running his azz off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 52 Posted September 5, 2013 I have SJAX, Mendy, Bradshaw and DWII, and I'd love to see him shine in that offense, and I can see it as others have stated. I have Mendy ranked higher and starting this weekend, but he may struggle if ARZ struggles. I honestly can't predict which offense will do better, but it's nice to have Bradshaw as a backup if Indy does well and he's the centerpiece....but he hasn't practiced, so Mendy gets the start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglesfreak 10 Posted September 5, 2013 Would u start bradshaw in a ppr league over jordy nelson vs 49ers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 5, 2013 Yes, he's the higest rated 'blocking' running back in the league but that's not the issue. Can he learn the playbook in time? We are not talking about a 'miss' block but a missed assignment. Anyone thinks he's some 'superior' running back haven't watched many giants game. The guy is good but the Giants Offensive line has always been one of the best in the league. You put Vick Ballard in that Oline and i'm sure he'll average 4.5 yards per carry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_future420 3 Posted September 5, 2013 Would u start bradshaw in a ppr league over jordy nelson vs 49ers? I have this exact same issue. I have Jordy in there now, but I am starting to think Bradshaw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hood 9 Posted September 5, 2013 Yes, he's the higest rated 'blocking' running back in the league but that's not the issue. Can he learn the playbook in time? We are not talking about a 'miss' block but a missed assignment. Anyone thinks he's some 'superior' running back haven't watched many giants game. The guy is good but the Giants Offensive line has always been one of the best in the league. You put Vick Ballard in that Oline and i'm sure he'll average 4.5 yards per carry. Why would Bradshaw not know the playbook or his assignments by now? He's been practicing for weeks. It's the same playbook for 1st and 2nd team in case you didn't realize. Giants O-Line has not been good the last couple of years either. Ok last year and the worst in the league running the ball the year before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Houston Texans 10 Posted September 5, 2013 Yes, he's the higest rated 'blocking' running back in the league but that's not the issue. Can he learn the playbook in time? We are not talking about a 'miss' block but a missed assignment. Anyone thinks he's some 'superior' running back haven't watched many giants game. The guy is good but the Giants Offensive line has always been one of the best in the league. You put Vick Ballard in that Oline and i'm sure he'll average 4.5 yards per carry. Well if that's not the issue, why did you post this: i highly doubt the Colts will allow their Golden Boy to take on unwarranted risk on a miss block assignment by Bradsaw, YOU brought up Bradshaw's blocking, then when it is pointed out that you don't know what you are talking about, you say that's not the issue??? With regards to Bradshaw not knowing the playbook because he hasn't practiced, he has had access to the playbook, which presumably, would contain his blocking assignments, so knowing them shouldn't be an issue. So, he should know the assignments, and he is the BEST pass-blocking RB in the NFL. Why would the Colts be worried that Bradshaw will get Luck blown up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 98 Posted September 6, 2013 My gut keeps saying Bradshaw is the play ..., one thing I know for sure Ballard is a back up scrub Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 6, 2013 Well if that's not the issue, why did you post this: YOU brought up Bradshaw's blocking, then when it is pointed out that you don't know what you are talking about, you say that's not the issue??? With regards to Bradshaw not knowing the playbook because he hasn't practiced, he has had access to the playbook, which presumably, would contain his blocking assignments, so knowing them shouldn't be an issue. So, he should know the assignments, and he is the BEST pass-blocking RB in the NFL. Why would the Colts be worried that Bradshaw will get Luck blown up? It's one thing to have the playbook and it's another to know it. Montee Ball also got the playbook before training camp, then why isn't he starting? Oh that's right....he might not ACTUALLY know it ALL. Bradshaw's officially declared healthy now. If he's that superior of a talent, then why isn't he starting? Why? All of you are simply blowing smoke up your own a@@. Most of you are simply riding the rotoworld and fantasy journal bashing of Ballard. Since Ballard became the actual starter last season in week 6, the colts finished 9-2. Ballards stats since starting were: Games ATT YDS AVG TD REC YDS LNG TD 11 182 747 4.2 2 14 131 91 1 Oh wow...project that out to 16 games...and...and... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 7, 2013 And and...and that comes out to: Rushing Yards 264 carries1072 3 TD Rec Yards192 1.5 TD TD are a product of offensive schemes and playcalling. That offense is still a throw first offense, even Bradshaw's TD number if starting won't be great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 7, 2013 I would say those number are PRETTY DARN FOCK'N GOOD FOR an Colts team ranked DEAD LAST in offensive line grade this past 2 seasons: http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/story/22274386/offseason-extra-grading-offensive-lines-for-2013 Team GPA '13 Grade '12 Grade 32 Colts 2.0 C C- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted September 7, 2013 Is he even gonna be starting Sunday? Trying to decide between him and Vereen. However I also have Ridley starting as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 98 Posted September 7, 2013 I would say those number are PRETTY DARN FOCK'N GOOD FOR an Colts team ranked DEAD LAST in offensive line grade this past 2 seasons: http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/story/22274386/offseason-extra-grading-offensive-lines-for-2013 Team GPA '13 Grade '12 Grade 32 Colts 2.0 C C- whoa nice homework i didn't know they were dead last Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clarkevii 0 Posted September 7, 2013 And and...and that comes out to: Rushing Yards 264 carries 1072 3 TD Rec Yards 192 1.5 TD TD are a product of offensive schemes and playcalling. That offense is still a throw first offense, even Bradshaw's TD number if starting won't be great. Yes ..... BUT The Colts have a new offensiive coordinator who wants to establish the run: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/05/colts-new-coordinator-has-old-school-ways/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeshushu 51 Posted September 7, 2013 I gotsa me some Bradshaw going this weekend. I hope he runs like a lightning bolt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted September 7, 2013 Yes ..... BUT The Colts have a new offensiive coordinator who wants to establish the run: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/05/colts-new-coordinator-has-old-school-ways/ There's a difference between establishing a run (which with Bradshaw I can see) and switching to a "run first team". I can see them running a bit more but Luck will still be throwing often. That's just the type of team they will be. That's like being worried the falcons will become a more running team than a passing team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted September 8, 2013 I am hearing from a reliable source (GoColts) that Bradshaw's touches may be limited this week. Anyone reading this anywhere else? Trying to decide between him and D Richardson at a flex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeshushu 51 Posted September 8, 2013 I have to deal with Roddy today so I leaving Bradshaw as my flex today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little Big Head 6 Posted September 8, 2013 Trotting him out as a flex in a couple of PPR leagues Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 9, 2013 7 carries for 26 yards...3.7 avg. 1 reception for 7 yards 8 touches. Bradshaw is going to realize very quickly that running behind a below average offensive line in the NFL isn't going to be fun. Ballard had a decent game... 13 carries 63 yards...4.8 avg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavy-set 39 Posted September 9, 2013 i'm thinking this guy is way under valued ...,thinking of swapping him out this week for reggie bush ..i like the tasty oakland matchup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackYourNut 47 Posted September 9, 2013 7 carries for 26 yards...3.7 avg. 1 reception for 7 yards 8 touches. Bradshaw is going to realize very quickly that running behind a below average offensive line in the NFL isn't going to be fun. Ballard had a decent game... 13 carries 63 yards...4.8 avg. We have a Bradshaw troll... I don't think anyone could consistently contradict themselves more than you. First you quote Bradshaw's 3.2 avg and say their line is bad. Then you quote Ballard's avg and say he did a decent job. Did they swap out lines for each RB? Clearly, the Colts are working him in slowly. And I wouldn't expect much next week in a tough match up either. But, he will get his chance down the road and we will see whether he was value or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted September 9, 2013 Bradshaw has always been criminally undervalued. He's a tough, dynamic player that has consistently finished in the top 20 in a system that has been RBBC since Joe Meggett and Ottis Anderson. The Giants practically invented RBBC. Ballard is a plodder. He doesn't even have the same kinds of skills Brandon Jacobs has, although he is younger. Bradshaw is also an excellent goal line back. He adds a dimension to the Colts offense that they haven't had since Edgerrin James. I drafted Bradshaw this year as my #2 RB in my big money league. I just don't see much benefit to giving Ballard a lot of carries, other than to spell Bradshaw. Dave Meggett, you azz meggett Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 9, 2013 We have a Bradshaw troll... Seriously? Give credit where credit was due. I'll eat some crow when i'm wrong too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 9, 2013 First you quote Bradshaw's 3.2 avg and say their line is bad. Then you quote Ballard's avg and say he did a decent job. Did they swap out lines for each RB? Fact: The line was rated by many to be the 'worst' in the league. Fact: You guys are smashing Ballard because of his 'LOW' yards per carry average and now when Bradsaw puts up the same average shouldn't it also put him in the 'bad' category? Who's contradicting who now? Fact: The line didn't change, but Ballard OUTPEFORM Bradshaw in this week. Why can't that happen? Because you said so? Man up when you are wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 9, 2013 Clearly, the Colts are working him in slowly. And I wouldn't expect much next week in a tough match up either. But, he will get his chance down the road and we will see whether he was value or not. Do not swap him out for Bush... He is undervalued, but there is no indication how much he will play this week. My guess is 15 touches, would should be a good flex play. Play Bush while he's healthy Man up bro. You were wrong. Your first post and today's post are classic backpedaled post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
