Phillip Seymour Hoffman, dead.

[cbfalcon 828]

 

 

I haven't offered any vitriolic, high-horse opinions, but the there are some pretty crappy comparisons here. Not wearing sunscreen is to shooting heroin as walking across the street is to jumping off a cliff in a wingsuit.

 

Obviously you are correct. My sunscreen example was hyperbolic and the level of irresponsibility is not comaprable at all in my opinion. But someone touched by alcoholism, lung cancer, skin cancer, etc may view these things differenty.

 

I read an article that states "Studies show that after 30 years of use, 16% of heroin users have died". So the 30 year usage survival rate is 84%. Honestly I was shocked by that number. I haven't researched how they came up with the number, but I would have expected it to be much higher after 30 years of heroin usage. The 5 year survival rate for lung cancer is only 16%.

 

My only point is MK Ultra or something.

 

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/04/health/how-heroin-kills/

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/02/us/heroin-use-rising/

 

 

do the herion addict sympathisers feel the same about, alcoholics, cigarette smokers etc. ?

 

Don't confuse having sympathy with condoning.

 

- If someone gets themselves hooked on booze, pills, heroin, cigarettes, etc...My view is they fucccked up. But I can think they fucccked up without thinking they are a bad person for this reason. I do things I should have thought better of all the time. Whether that be because I had an impulse I couldn't say no to, or simply because I decided I could handle it and make up for it later. Maybe banging some chick, taking some pill, or spending too much cash on something I didn't really need. And in some of those cases, it later became apparent I was going to have trouble controling my fuccck up.

 

- I feel sympathy for addicts. Booze, drugs, cigs, etc change the way your brain functions. Some worse than others obviously.......But the ones I really sympathize with are the ones that know they need to get off whatever they are on but have a tough time with it......I've never had any serious issues, but I did the pain pill thing (legally, prescribed, needed, etc) and the experience was bad enough that I can extrapolate in my mind and imagine what it must be like to kick a serious booze, heroin, cigarette, etc addiction...It's not nearly as simple as knowing what you need to do, being motivated to do it, then executing a plan. I feel tons of sympathy for those going through it.

 

 

People have a tendancy to go through a common thought processes...When young, we tend to say "Sure there is a risk, but it's worth it"...then we build confidence and become bulletproof and say "It happened to them, but it won't happen to me"...then as we mature and realize how stupid we are, we still have a sense of "I've done this before and always been fine"................ I 100% acknowledge I have this issue with drinking and driving. I have worked really hard to curb it, and I no longer drive when I believe myself to be a risk to anyone's safety. But am I fooling myself? The answer is that I probably am on occasion.

 

Anyway, I don't condone heroin, smoking, or alcohol abuse. But I do in fact feel sympathy for those that have issues with it.

[cyclone24 1,940]

You're acting like it's a conscious decision. IT ISN'T! It's totally irrational and when things aren't going your way, some people fall back to what they know.

20 years sober.....that's a lifetime. He knew the dangers, how addictive it is...that he had 3 kids at home and that he had been sober since the 90's.

 

I get it that addiction is hard.....but it's actually worse that he was sober so long and went back....that's a conscious decision, not some bad day or craving due to addiction.

[cyclone24 1,940]

The defining personality trait of the alcoholic/addict is selfishness and self-centeredness, so that's true.

 

I get where you're coming from. He knew a better way, so why go back? Speaks to the depth that addiction can get to, I suppose.

 

That's true. I'm trying to find some sympathy...but it's tough.

 

I can't speak as an addict to anything...shoot I've never even tried a cigarette....IMO I just can't fathom kids not being motivation enough to do anything....but...I've never been there.

[Frank M 181]

That's true. I'm trying to find some sympathy...but it's tough.

 

I can't speak as an addict to anything...shoot I've never even tried a cigarette....IMO I just can't fathom kids not being motivation enough to do anything....but...I've never been there.

 

I have. If I went back to doing what I used to do, I wouldn't give two sh1ts about my kids or marriage or job anything else. It's why I still attend meetings 25 years later.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

Newbie just owned RP...

Daily occurrence

[cyclone24 1,940]

I have. If I went back to doing what I used to do, I wouldn't give two sh1ts about my kids or marriage or job anything else. It's why I still attend meetings 25 years later.

Crazy...good for you though man. Thanks for that perspective.

[FeelingMN 273]

And I can understand that and can sympathize .......but to NOT do that work...when he had three kids.....id classify as selfish and irresponsible.

Meh....he was an actor. A really successful actor. Don't think he was always around like a lot of parents with typical nine to fives are. Maybe I'm wrong about that...but it seems like actors have really weird schedules and if they want to be around their families....their families have to travel with them while they're shooting a flick. Selfish?

 

Is he any more selfish than some ambitious CEO who's putting in 16 hours a day and never sees his kids. NFL coaches live in their offices during the season. They're clean....and alive....so they're unselfish and father of the year types?

 

PSH probably left his kids alright financially. At least I hope. How selfish and irresponsible was it of him to do that? It's more than a lot of other parents do for their kids.

 

Dude lost in a fight with something that a lot of us are fortunate enough to never get into the ring with.

[kutulu 1,724]

You guys are killing my buzz.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Cloaca du jour 2,157]

I liked pirate radio. On a side not they say heroin is getting pretty damn cheap nowadays. Like almost weed cheap.

[tikigods 77]

Says the guy who admitted that he doesn't bother driving to his own daughter's rodeos because they're over an hour away and she only rides a few seconds! World's Greatest Dad

 

I'm sure his daughter rides a lot more than bulls.

[NewbieJr 541]

[Geezil 25]

Dude chose getting high over his kids.

 

Selfish fukk.

 

Addiction is addiction. I have experienced it and it's a form of insanity. He had demons. He might have known some by name. When is my moment, yours?

[edjr 7,034]

What a selfish pr1ck.

 

 

 

Philip Seymour Hoffman left his fortune to his longtime girlfriend, Mimi O'Donnell, and their son, and in an unusual twist said his son should be raised in New York City, Chicago or San Francisco.

Hoffman and O'Donnell's son is named Cooper. The couple also had two younger daughters, but Hoffman did not update his last testament after their births.

 

 

 

 

 

Hoffman, who was 46 when he was found dead in his Manhattan apartment Feb. 2, named O'Donnell as the executrix of the will, and Emily Ziff, Hoffman's longtime producer friend, as her successor or substitute. He also wrote that O'Donnell's sister was to take custody of Cooper if O'Donnell were to predecease him.

The Oscar winner specified that it was his "strong preference and desire but not direction" that his son inherit the condominium he owned in downtown Manhattan. At the time of his death, he was living elsewhere, while his family was in the condo. He wrote that once Cooper took ownership of the property, he hoped he would "refrain from selling such residence and instead to lease the residence so that he will be able to provide himself with a rental income for as long as he deems necessary."

 

Hoffman made it clear that he hoped that Cooper would be raised in New York City, Chicago or San Francisco.

"If my guardian cannot reside in any of these cities, then it is my strong desire, and not direction, that my son, Cooper Hoffman, visit these cities at least twice per year throughout such guardianship," he wrote. "The purpose of this request is so that my son will be exposed to the culture, arts and architecture that such cities offer."

 

 

Damn that selfish bastard. How dare he leave his fortune to his son and baby momma

[Geezil 25]

Is that a pic of you in a dress?