IRS "loses" 2 years of Lois Lerner emails. How convenient.

[Googballz 39]

I spent my weekend here? That's news to me. IIRC, I posted about a dozen times in about 3-4 quick times I spent on the computer.

 

I think the one who needs to get a life is the one who obsesses over the posting habits of complete strangers on an inneweb message board.

[Googballz 39]

Hey Mike, how much storage space would the IRS need to archive their emails? Any idea? You seem to think you are an expert.

 

1TB?

 

5TB?

 

More maybe?

[NewbieJr 541]

I spent my weekend here? That's news to me. IIRC, I posted about a dozen times in about 3-4 quick times I spent on the computer.

 

I think the one who needs to get a life is the one who obsesses over the posting habits of complete strangers on an inneweb message board.

All I know is that I logged on this morning and there's two political threads near the top. Open them up, and lo and behold, our resident no-life has continued last week's squabbles over the weekend. You are a sad, sad man. I wish I could lend you a little of my life. Maybe the board can have a marathon and donate portions of their lives to you. So yours can consist of more than trolling 24/7. I'd eat a bullet if my life was like yours.

[Googballz 39]

Poor Newbs. First think Monday morning he logs in to see what I did over the weekend.

 

Was I posting by myself? No? Weird how you don't think anyone else that posts in political threads on the weekend are losers.

 

Hypocritical obsessed hack.

[NewbieJr 541]

Poor Newbs. First think Monday morning he logs in to see what I did over the weekend.

 

Was I posting by myself? No? Weird how you don't think anyone else that posts in political threads on the weekend are losers.

 

Hypocritical obsessed hack.

I don't really care if you posted some on the weekend. If you saw a concert and wanted to share. Or watched the World Cup and wanted to contribute to that thread. But when your entire existence revolves around endless battles where one page is a repeat of the last 5, then it's just a very sad and pathetic life you lead. Sorry to have to be the one to tell you.

 

As for all the other weekend posters, you are the only one who has a one track mind. You should really try watching sports or listening to music. Maybe watch a couple TV shows (not on Fox News). Maybe even try to get someone to date you. Watch porn if you can't get the real thing.

 

I'm trying to help you here. I feel sorry for you. Being politically obsessed, with no friends, and being the most hated member of the place that you call your internet home, is no way to go through life.

[Googballz 39]

4 posts about me in less than 45 minutes.

 

Nope, no obsession here.

 

Any thoughts on the subject of the thread, Sport.

[Googballz 39]

Hey Mike, how much storage space would the IRS need to archive their emails? Any idea? You seem to think you are an expert.

 

1TB?

 

5TB?

 

More maybe?

Let's try to get this back on track.

 

Mike, any thoughts? Can anyone help him out?

 

I really have no idea how much storage it would require, but a TB is a sh1t-ton of space.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

So you still have nothing to prove the article wrong.

 

Keep searching.

 

Well, we've already proven you lied about the "advertised contracts". Your article offers no proof to back up there claims---sort of impossible to verify nothing.

 

Hey Mike, how much storage space would the IRS need to archive their emails? Any idea? You seem to think you are an expert.

 

1TB?

 

5TB?

 

More maybe?

 

Never claimed to be an expert. If you have a point, make it.

[NewbieJr 541]

4 posts about me in less than 45 minutes.

 

Nope, no obsession here.

 

Any thoughts on the subject of the thread, Sport.

I gave my thoughts pages ago. I think there's definitely something fishy going on. But I don't know exactly what and who all is involved. Has something happened that my opinion should have changed?

 

 

And sorry if my little counseling session hits home and stings a little. Being the most hated person of a group has to take its toll on a fella. I'm trying to help you out. I wish you'd stop resisting.

 

Also, let me know how often I should repost my thoughts on the subject. Every third page? Every fourth? Every time you call someone sport?

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

Let's try to get this back on track.

 

Mike, any thoughts? Can anyone help him out?

 

I really have no idea how much storage it would require, but a TB is a sh1t-ton of space.

 

Really, a TB is a sh!t-ton of space. you think that would be enough to back up the emails/documents for 90,000 employees. Cmon, bring us your awesome link, that you think is going to blow everyone's mind.

[Googballz 39]

 

Really, a TB is a sh!t-ton of space. you think that would be enough to back up the emails/documents for 90,000 employees. Cmon, bring us your awesome link, that you think is going to blow everyone's mind.

How much do you think it would take? C'mon, you seem to think you are an expert on this.

 

Give us a number.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

How much do you think it would take? C'mon, you seem to think you are an expert on this.

 

Give us a number.

 

Never said I was, don't even think it.---make a point.

 

Already been linked though:

 

 

Prior to the eruption of the IRS controversy last spring, the IRS had a policy of backing up the data on its email server (which runs Microsoft Outlook) every day. It kept a backup of the records for six months on digital tape, according to a letter sent from the IRS to Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah). After six months, the IRS would reuse those tapes for newer backups. So when Congressional committees began requesting emails from the agency, its records only went back to late 2012.

 

The IRS also had two other policies that complicated things. The first was a limit on how big its employees' email inboxes could be. At the IRS, employees could keep 500 megabytes of data on the email server. If the mailbox got too big, email would need to be deleted or moved to a local folder on the user's computer.

 

Emails considered an "official record" of the IRS couldn't be deleted and, in fact, needed to also have a hard copy filed. Those emails that constitute an official record are ones that are loosely defined under IRS policy as ones that were "[c]reated or received in the transaction of agency business," "appropriate for preservation as evidence of the government's function or activities," or "valuable because of the information they contain". The letter sent to the senators suggests that it was up to the user to determine what emails met those standards. It's not clear if Lerner had any hard copies of important emails

 

[Googballz 39]

 

Never said I was, don't even think it.---make a point.

How many people do you think 1TB would cover?

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

How many people do you think 1TB would cover?

 

So you failed math and reading.

[Googballz 39]

 

So you failed math and reading.

Nope.

 

Just find it odd you know $14K won't purchase enough storage space, yet you are clueless how much storage space it would require.

 

I think we are done here. It's clear you don't know WTF you are talking about.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

Nope.

 

Just find it odd you know $14K won't purchase enough storage space, yet you are clueless how much storage space it would require.

 

I think we are done here. It's clear you don't know WTF you are talking about.

 

Someone won't play your reindeer games...your conclusion they don't know what they are talking about. Seriously, winner of the biggest reach of all time.

 

 

 

----ironically, this conversation is going on, while I'm backing up the company servers.

[Googballz 39]

 

Someone won't play your reindeer games...your conclusion they don't know what they are talking about. Seriously, winner of the biggest reach of all time.

Nope.

 

When someone claims $14k can't purchase enough backup to store emails, and has no clue how much is needed, my conclusion is you are talking out of your ass.

 

HTH

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

Nope.

 

When someone claims $14k can't purchase enough backup to store emails, and has no clue how much is needed, my conclusion is you are talking out of your ass.

 

HTH

 

And this is why you failed reading, I never said I didn't have a clue, I just didn't play your games. So, now you have to resort to making things up, desperate times, I guess.

[Googballz 39]

 

I never said I didn't have a clue,

No, you didn't.

 

I did, based on the fact you clearly have no idea. Given that, it seems your theory that it is implausible to back up emails for the IRS for $14K is based on nothing but your uninformed opinion.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

Google Pilot 101

 

If you can't win the thread, find a minute part of the 12 pages and linger on it until it seems like you, at least, won something. Sport.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

 

Google Pilot 101

 

If you can't win the thread, find a minute part of the 12 pages and linger on it until it seems like you, at least, won something. Sport.

 

Page 12 has not gone well at all for goog. He's been busted lying about the "advertised contracts". Now because I won't answer his questions, he starts spinning stories of what I know or don't know---and of course this doesn't prove anything in regards to Sonasoft or the IRS. Just an utter 100% failure on his part. Maybe the FBI can relocate him to a new alias.

[Googballz 39]

 

Page 12 has not gone well at all for goog. He's been busted lying about the "advertised contracts". Now because I won't answer his questions, he starts spinning stories of what I know or don't know---and of course this doesn't prove anything in regards to Sonasoft or the IRS. Just an utter 100% failure on his part. Maybe the FBI can relocate him to a new alias.

It's 2014. Time to get with the times. Companies use twitter all the time to promote their products. Sorry this is a surprise to you.

 

And it's cute of you to use the "he is playing games" deflection when all I am doing is asking a simple question that should be easy to answer if you aren't talking out of your ass.

 

Since you can't answer it we are all left to conclude you are talking out of your ass.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

It's 2014. Time to get with the times. Companies use twitter all the time to promote their products. Sorry this is a surprise to you.

 

And it's cute of you to use the "he is playing games" deflection when all I am doing is asking a simple question that should be easy to answer if you aren't talking out of your ass.

 

Since you can't answer it we are all left to conclude you are talking out of your ass.

 

Look at you all backtracking now..."Companies use twitter all the time to promote their products", is completely different "saying they have a contract to back up IRS servers" Their's a big difference between "can't" and "won't" play your games. Pretty easy to conclude you're just not bright enough to know the difference.

 

Time to start a new page, hope this one isn't as brutal for you.

[Googballz 39]

 

Their's a big difference between "can't" and "won't" play your games,

Asking you a question to determine if you have a clue as to what you are talking about is "playing games"?

 

I guess you have to use what little you have, Mike.

[Googballz 39]

This article is a little reminder of just how hard leading Dems were pushing the IRS to go after conservative groups.

 

 

 

 

About Those Missing Emails

The fact that they are "lost" at all suggests Congress is looking in the right direction.

Lois Lerner's emails are lost, and they need finding. In the meantime, their very disappearance tells us that Congress is sniffing down the right trail.

A year into congressional investigations of IRS targeting, we know two things beyond a doubt. We know from the public record that starting in 2010 the most powerful leaders of the Democratic Party—President Obama, Senate chairmen, House Democrats—ran a ceaseless campaign pressuring the IRS to silence conservative groups. We also know from internal IRS emails that Ms. Lerner, the former head of exempt organizations, was at the epicenter of an agency effort to silence those very groups, in the precise same time frame.

What we don't know is the interaction between the two. The IRS's deliberate withholding for a year of Lerner emails allowed the press and liberals to crow that there was no "there" there—zero evidence of Lerner collusion with anybody in the Democratic Party. At the very worst, went the explanation, Ms. Lerner and her IRS pals were zealous bureaucrats, primed to crack down on campaign money, and therefore eager to interpret the Democratic campaign as an order to act.

But the alleged disappearance of Ms. Lerner's hard drive—and the fact that the missing conversations are those the former IRS director had with people outside the IRS—has suddenly resurrected, with force, the explosive possibility that she was chatting with Democrats who mattered.

There's plenty of reason to believe she was. Just last week Congress discovered (via a subpoena to the Justice Department) emails showing that Ms. Lerner had conversations with Justice prosecutors about investigating conservative nonprofits. Who else in the Obama administration was Ms. Lerner talking to?

Or consider the extraordinary interaction between congressional Democrats and the IRS. Some of it was in a recent complaint filed to the Senate Ethics Committee by the Center for Competitive Politics against nine Democratic senators. It details their many letters and statements (that we know of) demanding the IRS shut down specific organizations that posed a threat to their Democratic House and Senate majority in the 2010 election.

Sen. Carl Levin, the head of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, exchanged at least 12 letters (that we know about) with the IRS in 2012 alone. IRS officials, including Ms. Lerner, met with Sen. Levin's staff in 2013. And former IRS Acting Commissione Stephen Miller testified that the IRS acted in part because Sen. Levin was "complaining bitterly" to the agency. In what forums? Were email conversations also taking place, behind the scenes, between the Levin office and Ms. Lerner and other IRS officials?

We do know that email conversations were common. A new and comprehensive House Oversight Committee report this week—about how politics drove the IRS affair—reveals fascinating details about just how chummy Democratic staff was with the IRS.

Here we find a staffer for Illinois Sen. ###### Durbin in October 2010 emailing no less than the IRS chief of staff, Jonathan Davis (who he addresses in familiar terms), with a heads up about a Durbin letter to the IRS commissioner demanding an investigation of Crossroads GPS, a conservative group. "We're not the first to ask, of course," the staffer acknowledges in the email. A few months later, Ms. Lerner asked her staff why it hadn't taken action against Crossroads.

Here we also find staff from Sen. Chuck Schumer in March 2012 tipping off an IRS employee to a coming New York Times article about nonprofits, a tip that was passed to Ms. Lerner. This is the same Sen. Schumer who has been open in public speeches about the need for Democrats to use the IRS to crack down on the "extraordinary influence" of Tea Party groups (as he was quoted as saying in January 2014). When did he first start looking to use the IRS this way, and who did he talk to there?

We have emails suggesting that IRS staff aided Sen. Levin in putting together his letters of complaint to the IRS. We have staff for House Democrat Elijah Cummings asking the IRS for information to use in Mr. Cummings's campaign against a specific conservative organization, True the Vote. Ms. Lerner got involved in that one—querying her staff as to whether they'd helped Mr. Cummings.

As to Ms. Lerner's behavior, consider that House Ways & Means Chairman Dave Camp first sent a letter asking if the IRS was engaged in targeting in June, 2011. Ms. Lerner denied it. She engineered a plant in an audience at a tax conference in May 2013 to drop the bombshell news about targeting (maybe hoping nobody would notice?). She has subsequently asserted a Fifth Amendment right to silence in front of the only people actually investigating the affair, Congress. Now we learn that her hard drive supposedly defied modernity and suffered total annihilation about 10 days after the Camp letter arrived.

Is there something in those lost emails? The fact that they are "lost" at all probably answers that question.

 

 

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:online.wsj.com/articles/kim-strassel-about-those-missing-emails-1403220814

[NewbieJr 541]

Who posted in: IRS "loses" 2 years of Lois L...

 

Member name Posts Googballz 112 OldMaid 54 Sho Nuff 46 NewbieJr 46 Mike Honcho 42 drobeski 36

You read that right. ONE HUNDRED AND TWELVE!!

[Googballz 39]

45,092.

 

Thanks for the update.

[NewbieJr 541]

45,092.

 

Thanks for the update.

Googlepilot- 18.9 posts per day

Newbie Jr- 12 posts per day.

 

 

At that pace, you'd have over 68,000 if you were here as long as me (which you were if we count the RP posts). If you want to go by total amount instead of posts per day, I guess I could stop posting as NewbieJr and start a new account as NewbieBallz.

 

18.9 per day!!! Wow, what a focking loser!!! And to make matters worse, all 18.9 are about politics!

[Googballz 39]

Too easy. Thanks for the research, Sport.

 

The obsession continues.

[NewbieJr 541]

Too easy. Thanks for the research, Sport.

 

The obsession continues.

Ahhh, another Recliner Pilot 101 retort.

 

If you get your ass handed to you, pretend you win anyway because you made someone look something up. Problem is, it doesn't change the fact that you post 18.9 times per day. Compared to a measly 12 for me. And half of mine are about music, sports, sex, food. Every single one of yours is an Obama sucks post. Ouch

[Googballz 39]

[MDC 7,490]

Who posted in: IRS "loses" 2 years of Lois L...

 

Member name Posts Googballz 112 OldMaid 54 Sho Nuff 46 NewbieJr 46 Mike Honcho 42 drobeski 36

You read that right. ONE HUNDRED AND TWELVE!!

 

 

Sweet jesus.

[Googballz 39]

 

Sweet jesus.

I've done a lot of ass kicking in this thread.

[MDC 7,490]

I've done a lot of ass kicking in this thread.

 

Congratulations. You certainly haven't been kicking much ass in real life.

[Googballz 39]

 

Congratulations. You certainly haven't been kicking much ass in real life.

You know nothing about my "real life".

 

Any thoughts on the thread subject, or are you here to whine about me?

[NewbieJr 541]

You know nothing about my "real life".

 

Any thoughts on the thread subject, or are you here to whine about me?

Dude. 18.9 posts per day. Every single one of them a political fight. Days. Nights. Weekends. I'd say we know PLENTY about your "life". Or lack thereof.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

I've done a lot of ass kicking in this thread.

 

Jeez, you not only lie about facts, you lie about other posters... I guess it's not a surprise you lie to yourself.

[MDC 7,490]

You know nothing about my "real life".

 

Any thoughts on the thread subject, or are you here to whine about me?

 

I may not know much about your real life, but the amount of time you spend sissy slapfighting online doesn't exactly paint the picture of a booming success, if you know what I mean.

 

I'm not whining about you. I pity you.

[Googballz 39]

I sure have a gaggle of liberals all bent out of shape this morning.

 

I guess this subject is one they don't like, so the plan is to go after me.

[NewbieJr 541]

I sure have a gaggle of liberals all bent out of shape this morning.

 

I guess this subject is one they don't like, so the plan is to go after me.

You're the only conservative who's even posting here. Frankly, I'm interested to see what comes of all this. The topic interests me. But you bore me.

 

And you're very, very easy to go after. You are so one dimensional and pathetic. I can literally predict every response you give. It's no wonder you have no one in your life.