Fine Lines 8 Posted December 5, 2014 These are the reasons I'm worried about Hill......... 1.) Loss of RT Andre Smith - huge loss and backup Marhsall Newhouse is awful. 2.) Hue Jackson trying to prove a point to Jeremy Hill - this could go either way, not sure if their little feud will be used to motivate Hill or if Hue Jackson will give the majority of carries to Gio to spite Hill. 3.) Steelers getting Ryan Shazier back and maybe Jarvis Jones back too. I know they lost Brett Kiesel, but getting the young LBs back will help them. Really tough call for me but I'm leaning towards benching Jeremy Hill for Jonathan Stewart in one league and for Latavius Murray in another. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dcgangstas 41 Posted December 5, 2014 Doubtful. He was just lighting a fire under his rookie. Yeah, but Hill sort of threw Hue under the bus by implying that the offensive game plan was predictable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fine Lines 8 Posted December 5, 2014 Yeah, but Hill sort of threw Hue under the bus by implying that the offensive game plan was predictable. Yep - even if Hill didn't mean to, that's how it looked - and that's why Hue Jackson got so defensive/aggressive in response. The question is will Hue carry this over into the game plan and try to have Gio out-shine Hill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bgal85 2 Posted December 5, 2014 Yep - even if Hill didn't mean to, that's how it looked - and that's why Hue Jackson got so defensive/aggressive in response. The question is will Hue carry this over into the game plan and try to have Gio out-shine Hill. The coach wants to win the game. Gio will get more work than Hill if he believes it will help them beat the Steelers and that's the only reason. This "conflict" shouldn't be used to help people set their lineups. Hill and Gio are going to share carries and that makes them both boom or bust with lower ceilings. Bengals are fighting to win the division. Hill might have a big mouth but he's physical and will be needed on Sunday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squintz82 45 Posted December 10, 2014 Just when I was about to bench the pair... Bengals OC Hue Jackson said he'd like to lean more on one running back. Ever since Giovani Bernard returned from his hip injury, he's been getting the starts, and he and Jeremy Hill have been splitting the workload. It's not working, and we believe Jackson wants to go back to the power running game with Hill. Bernard is averaging a mere 3.18 YPC since returning, while Hill is churning out yards, but still needs more touches. Hill remains an RB2 with upside for Week 15 against the Browns. Bernard is barely in the FLEX conversation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Challenger 72 Posted December 10, 2014 Just when I was about to bench the pair... Good luck guessing which one. At least by FF final we will know for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted December 10, 2014 this is sooooo focked up i'm terrified to start hill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squintz82 45 Posted December 10, 2014 Good luck guessing which one. At least by FF final we will know for sure. From what I'm reading, Jackson was alluding to Hill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobbyn2022 53 Posted December 10, 2014 Snap percent last week? Anyone know? I have both and I'm gonna start hill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted December 10, 2014 From what I'm reading, Jackson was alluding to Hill yes, hill is the power back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Challenger 72 Posted December 10, 2014 From what I'm reading, Jackson was alluding to Hill Are you reading what Hue said or reading what Rotoworld's own narrative? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted December 10, 2014 Are you reading what Hue said or reading what Rotoworld's own narrative? good point, "we believe" is roto, do you know what hue said? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squintz82 45 Posted December 10, 2014 good point, "we believe" is roto, do you know what hue said? Responses from a presser today: Paul Dehner Jr.Verified account@pauldehnerjr Getting the sense in talking to Hue Jackson you might be seeing more Jeremy Hill as the primary back this week. 12:02 PM - 10 Dec 2014 Geoff Hobson @GeoffHobsonCin Media consensus after post-practice Hue: hill about to get most of carries 12:06 PM - 10 Dec 2014 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p00h 85 Posted December 10, 2014 From what I'm reading, Jackson was alluding to Hill whatever site that's from is speculating. Nothing in there has a direct quote from Jackson. It literally states 'we believe...' It's typical speculative nonsense. As of right now, good luck if you roll either of these 2 out this week... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squintz82 45 Posted December 10, 2014 whatever site that's from is speculating. Nothing in there has a direct quote from Jackson. It literally states 'we believe...' It's typical speculative nonsense. As of right now, good luck if you roll either of these 2 out this week... So you think every Cin beat writer is blowing smoke? Or are you just trying to play down the only positive fantasy news to come out of Cincy since Gio's return on one of these RBs? Jackson isn't going to come out and telegraph his plans, we learned that this season. But some of us need to rely on one of these guys this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p00h 85 Posted December 11, 2014 So you think every Cin beat writer is blowing smoke? Or are you just trying to play down the only positive fantasy news to come out of Cincy since Gio's return on one of these RBs? Jackson isn't going to come out and telegraph his plans, we learned that this season. But some of us need to rely on one of these guys this week. Is every beat writer saying the same thing? Wasn;'t aware of that. All I'm saying is it didn't come from the horses's mouth. 1 thing I've learned through the years is that the institutions that need to pump out 'content' on a daily basis, whether roto or local beat writers or whatever are not always on point, and often make up stories for the sake of printing something because they are on the hook to print something every day.. And often, 1 dude speculating will get all of them to print the same crap as fact. Roto especially is incredibly infamous for this nonsense. That's not to say I'm saying it's all lies. All I'm stating is that that blurb is incredibly ambiguous, and I wouldn't, at this stage of the season, bet the farm on that little bit of speculation. If he's your best option, go with it. I'm going boom heron and lamar miller. I also have L Murray and SJax both ahead of Hill. I understand most don't have 5 startable RBs on their roster at this stage of the season, but I'd strongly suggest going with any better option. Cinci RBs can't be trusted right now, regardless of what is being speculated by a bunch of talking heads... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoydogg 3 Posted December 11, 2014 I hate this kind of stuff. Now I'm hearing more about leaning toward one RB.Seems like speculation right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 459 Posted December 11, 2014 I don't know why, but I'm tending to believe this chatter. My gut is telling me that Jeremy Hill is going to be a great play this weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,737 Posted December 11, 2014 I don't know why, but I'm tending to believe this chatter. My gut is telling me that Jeremy Hill is going to be a great play this weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoydogg 3 Posted December 11, 2014 Better option than Ingram? That's what I'm struggling with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 459 Posted December 11, 2014 Better option than Ingram? That's what I'm struggling with. I'm not sure, mind you, but I would play Ingram first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrmcguire 36 Posted December 11, 2014 in a PPR would you play Hill over Eddie Lacy or FJax....I also have Latavius Muray and debating on starting one of the 2 I don't play as RB as my flex over Josh Gordon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dread_555 1 Posted December 11, 2014 Standard scoring, and I'm thinking of playing Ivory over Hill. If Hill really does get the touches he's the better play.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackYourNut 47 Posted December 11, 2014 Play Hill... It's obvious to anyone who is looking that he is the guy that needs to get the carries. And it's obvious to anyone who is listening that he is the guy the coaches are referring to. All of this "Don't believe the reporters", "Don't try to figure out what the coach is saying", "Cinci RBs can't be trusted" bullsh!t, is just that. BULLSH!T! The entire point of FF is to make a decision based on as much information as you can gather. And all of that information points to Hill. Is it a 100% lock, of course not, but who is. The point is that you go with the percentages and those are clearly in his favor. Anyone claiming different is either blind, jaded or a poosie! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEWPOSTERGUY! 267 Posted December 11, 2014 - just read that Gio conceded. RUN DOWNHILL, BABY!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 459 Posted December 11, 2014 - just read that Gio conceded. RUN DOWNHILL, BABY!!! Wut? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEWPOSTERGUY! 267 Posted December 11, 2014 Wut? blurb that Gio acknowledged that Hill named starter vs Brownies ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 459 Posted December 11, 2014 blurb that Gio acknowledged that Hill named starter vs Brownies ... Oh. Excellent! Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEWPOSTERGUY! 267 Posted December 11, 2014 Oh. Excellent! Link? no can do on my mobile, but it's on teh fbg bored ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 459 Posted December 11, 2014 http://dev.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/303466/jeremy-hill-to-be-bengals-week-15-starter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svanerkel 0 Posted December 11, 2014 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000442123/article/gio-bernard-says-jeremy-hill-will-start-for-bengals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svtballa 8 Posted December 11, 2014 Speaking Thursday, Giovani Bernard confirmed Jeremy Hill will be the Bengals' Week 15 starter at running back. Bernard's "starter" title has been mostly ceremonial since he returned from his hip injury three games ago, but the official demotion is yet another sign that OC Hue Jackson is ready to funnel his offense through Hill for the season's final three games. Hill has averaged 15.6 touches since Bernard's return, with Gio getting the rock 13 times weekly. We'd expect Hill to be in line for at least 20 touches this week, with Bernard in the 5-7 range. Hill is a rock-solid RB2, with Bernard little more than a desperation FLEX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svtballa 8 Posted December 11, 2014 You gio owners saw the writing on the wall weeks ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkustes03 4 Posted December 11, 2014 I just dropped GIO to pick up Starks. Crazy? not gonna start him but dont want the Lacy owner to have him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricanrockers 39 Posted December 11, 2014 Welcoming Hill to my starting lineup..................and showing Ivory to my Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted December 11, 2014 Decided to go with Hill over Mason. Last time i did that Mason jizzed all over my bench. You're welcome Mason owners... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gratefulegg1973 253 Posted December 11, 2014 Yeah, why do I have a feeling this news is going to come back to haunt a lot of us? I have Hill penciled in now over Gio, Mason and Latavius, but I"m still not sold.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelers2101 7 Posted December 12, 2014 Still having a hard time starting Hill over Crowell or Benjamin. Non-PPR. Basically I can start 1 of those 3. Or 2 of those 3 plus Joique Bell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 459 Posted December 12, 2014 Still having a hard time starting Hill over Crowell or Benjamin. Non-PPR. Basically I can start 1 of those 3. Or 2 of those 3 plus Joique Bell. No PPR? Hill all day over either; not a close call IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
