Spy agency heads: Dem "report" "biased, inaccurate, and destructive".

[HenryHill9323 65]

The leaders of the agencies in charge of gathering intel are calling BS on DiFi and her parting shot at Bush and the CIA.

 

 

 

Spies fire back at 'biased, inaccurate, and destructive' report

Current and former heads of U.S. spy agencies are criticizing a Senate report’s claim that the CIA tortured detainees and misled the public about its "enhanced interrogation" techniques.

In separate statements on Tuesday, multiple current and former intelligence agency officials defended the work of the agency during the George W. Bush administration and said that agents were doing their best while defending the nation.

George Tenet, who was CIA director through much of the Bush administration, said the report is "biased, inaccurate, and destructive" and said it "does damage to U.S. national security, to the men and women of the Central Intelligence Agency, and most of all to the truth."

"It is indeed a dark day for congressional oversight," Tenet added.

CIA Director John Brennan said the agency “made mistakes” in the years after 9/11, but he rebutted the Senate Intelligence Committee’s conclusion that officials routinely misled officials in Washington.

 

“While we made mistakes, the record does not support the study’s inference that the agency systematically and intentionally misled each of these audiences on the effectiveness of the program,” he said.

Brennan accused lawmakers and congressional staffers, who have spent years on the analysis, of painting “an incomplete and selective picture of what occurred" by compiling the report solely from communications records and not conducting interviews.

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper declined to point out faults in the report but said that rebuttal from Republicans on the Intelligence Committee offers “one example of strong alternative views” on the program.

Ahead of the report’s release, former CIA officials have been speaking out about the interrogation program, which they have described as legal, useful and necessary to protect the nation.

A number of former officials with "hundreds of years of combined service” launched a website to push back on the report, which they described as “marred by errors of facts and interpretation and is completely at odds with the reality that the leaders and officers of the Central Intelligence Agency lived through.”

“It represents the single worst example of congressional oversight in our many years of government service,” they said.

 

 

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/226465-spies-push-back-on-senate-report

[drobeski 3,061]

Biggest pos administration ever.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Another thread to "defend" torture by playing partisan games.

RP in full on meltdown mode.

And the lapdog is right there with him.

Holy fock man...this is becoming like GFIAFP level of sad.

[HenryHill9323 65]

Another thread to "defend" torture by playing partisan games.

RP in full on meltdown mode.

And the lapdog is right there with him.

Holy fock man...this is becoming like GFIAFP level of sad.

What's wrong Sho, you don't think both sides of the story should be heard?

 

I'm shocked you will just lap up whatever the Dems throw out there as Gospel. Shocked!

[NewbieJr 541]

Further proof that RP eats, drinks, and sleeps politics. I'd swallow a focking bullet if I was ever that big of a loser.

[Frank M 181]

What's wrong Sho, you don't think both sides of the story should be heard?

 

I'm shocked you will just lap up whatever the Dems throw out there as Gospel. Shocked!

 

Left side-we tortured people and it didn't work, and we were misled by the CIA

 

Right side-we tortured people and it worked and we weren't misled by the CIA

 

Frank M's side-we tortured people and that is focked up no matter what.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Left side-we tortured people and it didn't work, and we were misled by the CIA

 

Right side-we tortured people and it worked and we weren't misled by the CIA

 

Frank M's side-we tortured people and that is focked up no matter what.

 

RP still trying to get me to talk to him...holy fock that obsession is strong in him.

I guess he got bored following worms around.

 

And its not just your side...its the rational side of a normal person.

[Thornton Melon 648]

Another thread to "defend" torture by playing partisan games.

RP in full on meltdown mode.

And the lapdog is right there with him.

Holy fock man...this is becoming like GFIAFP level of sad.

 

I'll defend torture without playing partisan games: I hope we tortured those filthy ragheads, and I hope we got some good intel out of it. I hope we're still doing it, I hope it's kept quiet, and I hope we never see another report about it, no matter what administration or political party is in charge.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

I'll defend torture without playing partisan games: I hope we tortured those filthy ragheads, and I hope we got some good intel out of it. I hope we're still doing it, I hope it's kept quiet, and I hope we never see another report about it, no matter what administration or political party is in charge.

 

So, you enjoy us being on the moral equivalent to those you call filthy ragheads?

All for intel that studies over and over have shown is not the most accurate?

 

http://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=1a15e343-66b0-473f-b0c1-a58f984db996

Again, I will trust this guy's stance over angry message board guy any day of the week.

[Frank M 181]

 

I'll defend torture without playing partisan games: I hope we tortured those filthy ragheads, and I hope we got some good intel out of it. I hope we're still doing it, I hope it's kept quiet, and I hope we never see another report about it, no matter what administration or political party is in charge.

 

Then I'll go ahead and say that you are lacking as a human being.

[Thornton Melon 648]

 

So, you enjoy us being on the moral equivalent to those you call filthy ragheads?

All for intel that studies over and over have shown is not the most accurate?

 

http://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=1a15e343-66b0-473f-b0c1-a58f984db996

Again, I will trust this guy's stance over angry message board guy any day of the week.

 

No, I enjoy not following the rules when fighting an opponent who is not following the rules.

 

And I'll trust my own gut instincts.

[Thornton Melon 648]

 

Then I'll go ahead and say that you are lacking as a human being.

 

Thank you. I consider that a compliment coming from you.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

No, I enjoy not following the rules when fighting an opponent who is not following the rules.

 

And I'll trust my own gut instincts.

 

I will trust a guy who has been there and knows how ineffective torture is...Ill trust the mounds of reports out there showing torture leads to crap intel.

Gut instincts...hah!!!

[HenryHill9323 65]

I'll defend torture without playing partisan games: I hope we tortured those filthy ragheads, and I hope we got some good intel out of it. I hope we're still doing it, I hope it's kept quiet, and I hope we never see another report about it, no matter what administration or political party is in charge.

I laugh at those here who believe this is a new phenomenon. We have done this stuff for decades, but it was kept quite. The PC bullshit envoronment we live in today dictates we have to get this out in the open so we can feel good about ourselves.

 

Bullshiot!

 

I place more value on a single, innocent American life than I do all raghead terrorist lives.

 

Some here think the value of a terrorist life is equal to an innocent American life.

[HenryHill9323 65]

I will trust a guy who has been there and knows how ineffective torture is...Ill trust the mounds of reports out there showing torture leads to crap intel.

Gut instincts...hah!!!

I will trust Leon Panetta, who says EITs helped us get Bin Laden.

[Frank M 181]

I laugh at those here who believe this is a new phenomenon. We have done this stuff for decades, but it was kept quite. The PC bullshit envoronment we live in today dictates we have to get this out in the open so we can feel good about ourselves.

 

Bullshiot!

 

I place more value on a single, innocent American life than I do all raghead terrorist lives.

 

Some here think the value of a terrorist life is equal to an innocent American life.

 

Wrong. Some here think that being American means we should hold ourselves to higher standards than our enemy.

[HenryHill9323 65]

Wrong. Some here think that being American means we should hold ourselves to higher standards than our enemy.

We do. Or are you claiming we behead people and put it on youtube?

[drobeski 3,061]

 

Wrong. Some here think that being American means we should hold ourselves to higher standards than our enemy.

you're fine with killing them with drones ?

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Wrong. Some here think that being American means we should hold ourselves to higher standards than our enemy.

 

Nope...we hate the military and love terrorists. Thats the hack way of trying to make people who are against torture look like the bad guys in all of this.

Knowing full well that if this report came out 5 years from now criticizing Obama...they would be all anti torture and calling him out...they know it too (but won't admit it)

[Frank M 181]

We do. Or are you claiming we behead people and put it on youtube?

 

Right. We just employ a lesser form of torture than our enemies.

 

We should be so proud.

[HenryHill9323 65]

Nope...we hate the military and love terrorists. Thats the hack way of trying to make people who are against torture look like the bad guys in all of this.

Knowing full well that if this report came out 5 years from now criticizing Obama...they would be all anti torture and calling him out...they know it too (but won't admit it)

Wrong again, hack.

 

I wish Obama was waterboarding the snot out of every terrorist we capture. Unfortunately, he only uses drones so we can't get any intel from them even if we only ask nicely and say "Pretty please".

[Frank M 181]

you're fine with killing them with drones ?

 

You're equating drone attacks on specific terrorist targets with torturing people already in custody.

 

Holy Christ, I didn't think you could be any dumber than you appear. I was wrong.

[drobeski 3,061]

 

Nope...we hate the military and love terrorists. Thats the hack way of trying to make people who are against torture look like the bad guys in all of this.

Knowing full well that if this report came out 5 years from now criticizing Obama...they would be all anti torture and calling him out...they know it too (but won't admit it)

nope I'd still be fine with our govt doing what it takes to help keep American lives safe when dealing with the enemy. I applaud the inhumane drone program run by the Obama admin.

This is a different enemy IMO. Its a battle of civilization, do what it takes. We should be ass focking them with pig hoofs.

You're consistently wrong, I'll give you that.

[HenryHill9323 65]

you're fine with killing them with drones ?

Obama does it, so it's all good...even when we occasionally take out the target's kids along with him.

[Sho Nuff 720]

nope I'd still be fine with our govt doing what it takes to help keep American lives safe when dealing with the enemy. I applaud the inhumane drone program run by the Obama admin.

This is a different enemy IMO. Its a battle of civilization, do what it takes. We should be ass focking them with pig hoofs.

You're consistently wrong, I'll give you that.

BS...though, i knew you couldnt admit it.

How does any of it keep American lives safe? bad intel keeps lives safe now?

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Couldn't you have put this in the other thread you focking retarded sack of sh!t?

[drobeski 3,061]

BS...though, i knew you couldnt admit it.

How does any of it keep American lives safe? bad intel keeps lives safe now?

its bs ? Why is that ? Because you called it ?

You're focking smoked man, fairy tale brain weirdo.

[jerryskids 7,085]

BS...though, i knew you couldnt admit it.

How does any of it keep American lives safe? bad intel keeps lives safe now?

So, if the intel were good and led to stopping the next 9/11, would it be OK to use torture?

[Sho Nuff 720]

its bs ? Why is that ? Because you called it ?

You're focking smoked man, fairy tale brain weirdo.

Because you are a partisan hack, thats why.

[Sho Nuff 720]

So, if the intel were good and led to stopping the next 9/11, would it be OK to use torture?

 

Id have less of a problem and could at least understand people trying to justify it...but its been sown over and over its not a great method...people like McCain who have been thru it tell ud that...and even then people dont want to believe it.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

So, if the intel were good and led to stopping the next 9/11, would it be OK to use torture?

This is a good question. There are a few different approaches here:

 

1. Torture is bad period, so it is of no consequence whether is is effective or not. This is my personal belief and it's also embodied in the Geneva Conventions and so forth and USED to be a core policy of the United States.

 

2. You have to weigh the efficacy against the evil. I think this is flat out wrong. Make an attempt to convince me otherwise

[HenryHill9323 65]

Id have less of a problem and could at least understand people trying to justify it...but its been sown over and over its not a great method...people like McCain who have been thru it tell ud that...and even then people dont want to believe it.

 

Panetta says you are wrong. So do the spy agency heads in the OP.

 

But I'm sure a bald accountant from bumfukk Tennessee knows more than they do.

[HenryHill9323 65]

Couldn't you have put this in the other thread you focking retarded sack of sh!t?

 

If only there was a way for posters to avoid a thread they don't like.

 

Mike should get to work on that feature.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

If only there was a way for posters to avoid a thread they don't like.

 

Mike should get to work on that feature.

Mike did institute that feature: he banned your ass multiple times. But you keep coming back because you're a focking sad sack of a human being

[HenryHill9323 65]

You mad?

[rholio 339]

If only there was a way for posters to avoid a thread they don't like.

 

Mike should get to work on that feature.

He did.

 

Mike did institute that feature: he banned your ass multiple times. But you keep coming back because you're a focking sad sack of a human being

This.

[OldMaid 2,135]

He did.

 

 

This.

x infinity

[MDC 7,888]

Mike did institute that feature: he banned your ass multiple times.

Talk about throwing a 70 mph meatball right over the heart of the plate ..,

[jerryskids 7,085]

This is a good question. There are a few different approaches here:

 

1. Torture is bad period, so it is of no consequence whether is is effective or not. This is my personal belief and it's also embodied in the Geneva Conventions and so forth and USED to be a core policy of the United States.

 

2. You have to weigh the efficacy against the evil. I think this is flat out wrong. Make an attempt to convince me otherwise

A nuclear bomb is set to go off in NYC in 12 hours and we've captured a terrorist who knows where it is.

[Herbivore 1,197]

So, if the intel were good and led to stopping the next 9/11, would it be OK to use torture?

 

This is a pretty simple dumb argument. How about if the intel was bad and lead to killing civilians or misdirecting our resources that in turn foiled a BS event, while opening ourselves up to an actual terror attack. Then torture would be bad. Right?

 

I am not sure if torture is a proven method of getting good information. But I think if we are claiming that we do not torture, but our enemies know that we do, that will come to be a problem. It gives our enemies something to use against us. I don't think they would care about the report. They already know if this is true or not.