Obama dances around reality as ISIS plays the tune.

[HenryHill9323 65]

 

 

 

Obama dances around reality as ISIS plays the tune

 

After months of taking flak for his lack of a coherent strategy to combat ISIS, President Obama came up with an answer. Unfortunately, it’s “Let’s pretend.”

In a speech to a conference Wednesday as well as an op-ed in the Los Angeles Times, our president did set forth an agenda for countering what he insisted on calling “violent extremism.” But his approach puts the top priority on the West acknowledging the terrorists’ economic and political grievances.

That won’t convince anyone that Obama understands the nature of the threat. Nor will it do much to convince groups like ISIS that he’s serious about defeating them.

By continuing to dance around the reality that Islamism is a dangerous mainstream force within the Arab and Muslim worlds and downplaying the necessity to fight ISIS on the ground, the president once again demonstrated his discomfort in leading a struggle against evil and his unfitness as a war leader.

Obama is right that most Muslims don’t support the terrorists. Muslim communities should be partners with the government in the fight against those who seek to foment terror. The president is also right to echo George W. Bush’s insistence that America is not at war with an entire religion and its billion adherents.

But in a month that will be remembered for the release of murder videos in which ISIS beheaded and burned to death its victims — even as it expanded its reach from Iraq and Syria to Libya, and its sympathizers gunned down journalists and Jews in the streets of Europe — the leader of the free world needed to give us far more than an agenda for better community relations at home.

It starts with his refusal to call Islamist terrorism by its right name. This is no mere matter of semantics but an integral part of the problem.

So long as our government won’t admit that terrorists are killing in the name of a form of Islam that can count on significant support around the world, the president’s talk about the need to address root causes of violence is so much hot air.

The problem isn’t poverty.This is a fishing expedition to hook Ducky as I know he won't read this and will be the first to post and whine about me starting this thread. Nor is it a matter of addressing the “historical grievances” Obama spoke of. Indeed, ISIS and its sympathizers hear those terms as code words for eliminating Israel and resurrecting a long-vanished past of Muslim dominance that was rooted in aggression.

Just as bad, Obama on Wednesday again refused to mention the anti-Semitism that is an essential element of the toxic Islamist mix. This, too, speaks volumes about his inability to address the ugly truth about a worldwide hate movement.

And his failure to mention the targeting of Christians in the Middle East is just as egregious.

It’s all well and good to speak of the need to “lift up people’s lives” in the hope that they’ll reject terror. But by adopting ISIS’s narrative of Western injustice against Islam, the president is playing the game on their turf and ensuring that the United States can’t win.

The “root causes” of Islamist terror are not to be found in a better jobs program, either here or in the Middle East.

No, the cause is a variant of a great faith that tells its followers to slaughter nonbelievers and Muslim opponents. And the remedy is a military effort that will roll back the gains of ISIS that were made possible by the president’s negligence in recent years — an effort that will convince other Muslims that these groups are not the “strong horse” that they defy at their peril.

Anything else is not only a waste of time, it’s a distraction that undermines the need to rally the West and moderate Arabs to fight back.

 

 

http://nypost.com/2015/02/19/obama-dances-around-reality-as-isis-plays-the-tune/

 

[NewbieJr 541]

I was hoping we could get a thread on this.

[HenryHill9323 65]

I was hoping we could get a thread on this.

You are the easiest rube on this bored to hook.

 

You didn't even read the article, did ya?

[NewbieJr 541]

Add that to the 25,000 other articles you've posted that I didn't read. :banana:

[HenryHill9323 65]

[NewbieJr 541]

Is this fail# 16 or 17 this week? I'm losing count

[HenryHill9323 65]

[DankNuggs 305]

Its pretty disconcerting... We have to resign ourselves to the fact that this white house has no foreign policy ability whatsoever, let the lame duck term finish out and its virtually guaranteed that the next president won't be an apologist. too bad the bad guys were spotted 8 years to strengthen themselves, but what can you do when you have an electorate that can be conned into anything for the promise of chicken scraps...

[HenryHill9323 65]

 

 

 

Obama dances around reality as ISIS plays the tune

After months of taking flak for his lack of a coherent strategy to combat ISIS, President Obama came up with an answer. Unfortunately, it’s “Let’s pretend.”

In a speech to a conference Wednesday as well as an op-ed in the Los Angeles Times, our president did set forth an agenda for countering what he insisted on calling “violent extremism.” But his approach puts the top priority on the West acknowledging the terrorists’ economic and political grievances.

That won’t convince anyone that Obama understands the nature of the threat. Nor will it do much to convince groups like ISIS that he’s serious about defeating them.

By continuing to dance around the reality that Islamism is a dangerous mainstream force within the Arab and Muslim worlds and downplaying the necessity to fight ISIS on the ground, the president once again demonstrated his discomfort in leading a struggle against evil and his unfitness as a war leader.

Obama is right that most Muslims don’t support the terrorists. Muslim communities should be partners with the government in the fight against those who seek to foment terror. The president is also right to echo George W. Bush’s insistence that America is not at war with an entire religion and its billion adherents.

But in a month that will be remembered for the release of murder videos in which ISIS beheaded and burned to death its victims — even as it expanded its reach from Iraq and Syria to Libya, and its sympathizers gunned down journalists and Jews in the streets of Europe — the leader of the free world needed to give us far more than an agenda for better community relations at home.

It starts with his refusal to call Islamist terrorism by its right name. This is no mere matter of semantics but an integral part of the problem.

So long as our government won’t admit that terrorists are killing in the name of a form of Islam that can count on significant support around the world, the president’s talk about the need to address root causes of violence is so much hot air.

The problem isn’t poverty.This is a fishing expedition to hook Ducky as I know he won't read this and will be the first to post and whine about me starting this thread. Nor is it a matter of addressing the “historical grievances” Obama spoke of. Indeed, ISIS and its sympathizers hear those terms as code words for eliminating Israel and resurrecting a long-vanished past of Muslim dominance that was rooted in aggression.

Just as bad, Obama on Wednesday again refused to mention the anti-Semitism that is an essential element of the toxic Islamist mix. This, too, speaks volumes about his inability to address the ugly truth about a worldwide hate movement.

And his failure to mention the targeting of Christians in the Middle East is just as egregious.

It’s all well and good to speak of the need to “lift up people’s lives” in the hope that they’ll reject terror. But by adopting ISIS’s narrative of Western injustice against Islam, the president is playing the game on their turf and ensuring that the United States can’t win.

The “root causes” of Islamist terror are not to be found in a better jobs program, either here or in the Middle East.

No, the cause is a variant of a great faith that tells its followers to slaughter nonbelievers and Muslim opponents. And the remedy is a military effort that will roll back the gains of ISIS that were made possible by the president’s negligence in recent years — an effort that will convince other Muslims that these groups are not the “strong horse” that they defy at their peril.

Anything else is not only a waste of time, it’s a distraction that undermines the need to rally the West and moderate Arabs to fight back.

 

 

http://nypost.com/2015/02/19/obama-dances-around-reality-as-isis-plays-the-tune/

 

 

 

Should be required reading for Ducky............

[rholio 340]

Its pretty disconcerting... We have to resign ourselves to the fact that this white house has no foreign policy ability whatsoever, let the lame duck term finish out and its virtually guaranteed that the next president won't be an apologist. too bad the bad guys were spotted 8 years to strengthen themselves, but what can you do when you have an electorate that can be conned into anything for the promise of chicken scraps...

 

You ruined the streak.

[drobeski 3,061]

Its pretty disconcerting... We have to resign ourselves to the fact that this white house has no foreign policy ability whatsoever, let the lame duck term finish out and its virtually guaranteed that the next president won't be an apologist. too bad the bad guys were spotted 8 years to strengthen themselves, but what can you do when you have an electorate that can be conned into anything for the promise of chicken scraps...

solid post

[HenryHill9323 65]

 

You ruined the streak.

Poor kid still hasn't figured it out.

[NewbieJr 541]

So let me get this straight....you search the internet, copy a link, go back to the board, start a new thread, paste the link, go back to the source and copy text, go back to the board, click on the quote function, paste text, and then post the new thread. All for the hopes that I take 8 seconds to mention what a retard you are? Bwahahahaha Pretty lofty life goals you got there RP.

 

 

Well if your goal is to get me to make fun of you, you will have a very successful posting career. Because I will never cease to point out what a pathetic, no-life loser you are.

 

Hey, did you hit 100 posts today? Life goals!

[DankNuggs 305]

So let me get this straight....you search the internet, copy a link, go back to the board, start a new thread, paste the link, go back to the source and copy text, go back to the board, click on the quote function, paste text, and then post the new thread. All for the hopes that I take 8 seconds to mention what a retard you are? Bwahahahaha Pretty lofty life goals you got there RP.

 

 

Well if your goal is to get me to make fun of you, you will have a very successful posting career. Because I will never cease to point out what a pathetic, no-life loser you are.

 

Hey, did you hit 100 posts today? Life goals!

Limbaugh spent all day covering this... I caught some on my ride back to the office.

[HenryHill9323 65]

Nope. Still don't have it straight, Ducky.

 

 

Like I said, you can't troll me. I'm the king.

 

 

Never, and I mean never, act like you are smarter than I am.

[KSB2424 3,174]

Newbie, read the full quote in the OP. Then you'll get it.

[NewbieJr 541]

Are you just trying to get me to actually read an RP link? And break my 9 year run of never doing that?

[HenryHill9323 65]

Newbie, read the full quote in the OP. Then you'll get it.

I can't wait for his spin if he ever figures it out.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

RP started a new thread so he could avoid my question in the prior one. What a puzzy

[HenryHill9323 65]

RP started a new thread so he could avoid my question in the prior one. What a puzzy

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

[NewbieJr 541]

RP has been getting destroyed every day for weeks. He desperately needs for the economy to get back towards the way Bush left it. It's driving him crazy

 

And I did "figure it out". Makes no difference. When you're posting 80-100 times every day and most of them are your obsession with Muslims, I, along with many others, are going to make fun of what a sad loser you are. And just because one of your 30 threads happens to say you did it on purpose so I'd reply, has zero bearing on the fact that I will continue to point out your obsession. And your avoidance in answering anyone's questions about how you think the situation should be handled. Hope you caught all that, simpleton.

[HenryHill9323 65]

[rholio 340]

Anything else is not only a waste of time, it’s a distraction that undermines the need to rally the West and moderate Arabs to fight back.

 

 

Countries aligned against ISIS while repubtards argue semantics:

 

United States

United Kingdom

Jordan

Morocco

Iraqi Kurdistan

Australia

Belgium

Canada

Denmark

France

Germany

Italy

Neatherlands

New Zeeland

Norway

Portugal

Spain

Turkey

Bahrain

Qatar

Saudi Arabia

United Arab Emirates

Iran

[Sho Nuff 720]

Its pretty disconcerting... We have to resign ourselves to the fact that this white house has no foreign policy ability whatsoever, let the lame duck term finish out and its virtually guaranteed that the next president won't be an apologist. too bad the bad guys were spotted 8 years to strengthen themselves, but what can you do when you have an electorate that can be conned into anything for the promise of chicken scraps...

 

You all definitely can be conned into anything...that much gets shown every day.

[HenryHill9323 65]

 

You all definitely can be conned into anything...that much gets shown every day.

We aren't the ones who were conned into voted for this fraud.......twice!

[NewbieJr 541]

It was a great choice, Hare Lip. You voted for Bush twice and look where it got us. Obama fixed that mess. And would easily win a third term if he could run again. We both know that. hth

[IGotWorms 4,063]

RP started a new thread so he could avoid my question in the prior one. What a puzzy

Bump

[HenryHill9323 65]

Bump

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

 

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

 

That's twice the reason I started this thread went over your head.

[drobeski 3,061]

 

 

http://nypost.com/2015/02/19/obama-dances-around-reality-as-isis-plays-the-tune/

 

the article nails it, even the guest writer

[drobeski 3,061]

It was a great choice, Hare Lip. You voted for Bush twice and look where it got us. Obama fixed that mess. And would easily win a third term if he could run again. We both know that. hth

he destroyed the mess and handed isis Iraq and Libya.

Stick with pop culture kid, seriously. I hope for your sake there's a cool dude like barry available for you to vote for in the next election.

[HenryHill9323 65]

the article nails it, even the guest writer

I hope I didn't break any copyright laws.

[NewbieJr 541]

he destroyed the mess and handed isis Iraq and Libya.

Stick with pop culture kid, seriously. I hope for your sake there's a cool dude like barry available for you to vote for in the next election.

Sorry Chubby. But Obama would annihilate any jerk off your party rolled out there. Just like he did the other two idiots. Last time we trusted a Republican with the presidency, he lied and cost us thousands of lives, plus nearly got us into a depression.

[HenryHill9323 65]

he destroyed the mess and handed isis Iraq and Libya.

Stick with pop culture kid, seriously. I hope for your sake there's a cool dude like barry available for you to vote for in the next election.

Hillary may not be very cool, but I'm pretty sure it's a dude.

[HenryHill9323 65]

Newbie, read the full quote in the OP. Then you'll get it.

 

I don't think he ever figured it out.

[Voltaire 5,534]

So let me get this straight....you search the internet, copy a link, go back to the board, start a new thread, paste the link, go back to the source and copy 's text, go back to the board, click on the quote function, paste text, and then post the new thread. All for the hopes that I take 8 seconds to mention what a retard you are? Bwahahahaha Pretty lofty life goals you got there RP.

 

 

Well if your goal is to get me to make fun of you, you will have a very successful posting career. Because I will never cease to point out what a pathetic, no-life loser you are.

 

Hey, did you hit 100 posts today? Life goals!

He did post a critique of the president's oped and criticized you for not reading the critique. I wonder what the chances are that he himself even read the president's oped that inspired the condemnation oped he posted because I think there's a really good chance he did to Obummer what he's accusing you -rightly- of doing to his post and not read it.

 

Anyways what the president wrote isn't controversial at all, this attack piece is just more blowing smoke.

 

Let me move the convesation forward. There's a reason they really want you to read this particular one and since I did it for you, here's why - I spotted one very odd thing that jumped out as I was reading it. It's a reference to 'Ducky' that RP had tucked there in there in the middle of the cut and paste nypost article to see if anybody was paying attention.

 

You'd have to have read the post to find it.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

Republicans only care about the rich.

[NorthernVike 2,102]

Republicans only care about the rich.

And who the fock do you think the dems care about ya stupid fock.

[Sho Nuff 720]

And who the fock do you think the dems care about ya stupid fock.

 

According to some on this board...mooslims?

[Baker Boy 1,711]

And who the fock do you think the dems care about ya stupid fock.

When you are the Party of the Poor it is best to keep the population poor.

[MDC 8,136]

I can't wait til we get a GOP president who fixes everything.