tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 13, 2015 Worried that he would take 2 goal line plunges? No, no one was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted September 14, 2015 Bengals had an odd game plan. lot of shotgun 5 wide. gio saw the field more than I would have guessed but hill was in at the gl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culpooper 3 Posted September 14, 2015 Bengals had an odd game plan. lot of shotgun 5 wide. gio saw the field more than I would have guessed but hill was in at the gl. Â Bengals had an odd game plan. lot of shotgun 5 wide. gio saw the field more than I would have guessed but hill was in at the gl. Gio saw the field so much because it was a massacre. Closer game and Hill should be much more involved, not like 19 carries isnt involved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted September 20, 2015 What kind of tears are those? Regret for starting thread tears? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Nice 40 Posted September 20, 2015 And the gio/hill debate has come back to life from last year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,480 Posted September 21, 2015 Only debate during the summer was that Hill is not a rb 1 with Bernard on the team . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 21, 2015 We now know Hill is vulnerable and doesn't have a lock on the job. Would Charles lose his job for the day fumbling? No. AP fumbled 3 times today and still got all the carries. I have as much faith in Hill now as a hill of beans. Will look to trade him ASAP for Hyde or someone similar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted September 21, 2015 We now know Hill is vulnerable and doesn't have a lock on the job. Would Charles lose his job for the day fumbling? No. AP fumbled 3 times today and still got all the carries. I have as much faith in Hill now as a hill of beans. Will look to trade him ASAP for Hyde or someone similar. Â you are probably fishing a bit here but to comparing a 2nd year hill to firmly entrenched 7+ yr starters charles and adp is beyond ridiculous. charles had fumbling problems early in his career...i'm guessing if you go back and look he sat the rest of a few games early on there. AP, a nearly once in a generation RB talent, maybe didn't get benched for fumbling early on, but again i'd even have to check on that. Â If anyone is foolish enough to trade a 15-20+ carry RB on a playoff caliber team/offense that way more often than not will get the GL work for a so far one-week wonder RB on a bad team who already has concussion issues (or someone similar) then more power to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Nice 40 Posted September 21, 2015 Sophmore slump, clearly gio is the better back.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swampdonkey 5 Posted September 21, 2015 Gio gets put in because Jeremy hill was benched by the coach for fumbling and was trying to teach a lesson. So you think gio is all of a sudden the clear cut #1? Hill is still the back to have and will still get the bulk of the carries. Now gio is good and with the adp u could have got him for, it was probably a good deal, sure. But some of yall are reaching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted September 21, 2015 Gio gets put in because Jeremy hill was benched by the coach for fumbling and was trying to teach a lesson. So you think gio is all of a sudden the clear cut #1? Hill is still the back to have and will still get the bulk of the carries. Now gio is good and with the adp u could have got him for, it was probably a good deal, sure. But some of yall are reaching. Gio isn't going anywhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R8RMick 242 Posted September 21, 2015 Gio isn't going anywhere  No he's not, and rightfully so. But unless Cincy changes its MO they need a big dog at RB. I like the explosiveness Bernard brings, and he brought it yesterday, but the Bengal mantra has been a power running game to keep the ball out of Dalton's hands. Not sure that fits Bernard. But again, maybe the change their MO? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 21, 2015 Gio is MORE dynamic as a RB than Hill. I would be real nervous right now if i'm a Hill owner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swampdonkey 5 Posted September 21, 2015 Fantasy aside, Bengals got a killer 1 2 punch and depth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted September 21, 2015 Should I trade\ Hill cobb for lynch hopkins im scared Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,480 Posted September 21, 2015 We now know Hill is vulnerable and doesn't have a lock on the job. Would Charles lose his job for the day fumbling? No. AP fumbled 3 times today and still got all the carries. I have as much faith in Hill now as a hill of beans. Will look to trade him ASAP for Hyde or someone similar. Think we knew this answer going into this season , will a lot did . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crystal Meth Tweekers 26 Posted September 21, 2015 I think people are worrying to much. I own Hill and I am not gonna sweat it. he's the one everyone claimed all off season was more talented. I am sure he will turn it around. The guy should still get 15-20 carries no matter what and goal line carries. Â Â http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/9409/jeremy-hill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 597 Posted September 21, 2015 Hill got benched because of two fumbles. Â and you know what? he deserved it. Â The coach needs to send a message when this sort of thing happens. Â He wont lose his job. Fumbling wasnt a problem last year, so the coaches will treat it as a one off and will give him the ball next week. Â that being said, I think the hook will be swift if he puts the ball on the ground again next game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted September 21, 2015 I really wonder how many in here watched the game. in the first half hill was about 8 carries for 38 yards almost 5ypc. I though he was running fine always falling forward and running hard. he nearly had his knee twisted when it was landed on on the first fumble. a fumble that on review looked like his knee was down but wasn't enough to overturn. in the 2nd half on his 2nd carry he dropped a pitch out. wasn't like the ball was stripped because he wasn't holding it right. the staff must have thought he wasn't focused or something. Â I would be shocked if the Bengals went back to what clearly didn't work the first half of last season which was a 75-25 split in gios favor which also got him hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Postman 3 Posted September 21, 2015 Â No he's not, and rightfully so. But unless Cincy changes its MO they need a big dog at RB. I like the explosiveness Bernard brings, and he brought it yesterday, but the Bengal mantra has been a power running game to keep the ball out of Dalton's hands. Not sure that fits Bernard. But again, maybe the change their MO? Â Keep the ball out of Dalton's hands???? Pass whatever you are smoking this way!!!!! Dalton is a very good QB with very good WRs, especially now that Jones is back, get real dude!! That backfield will remain clouded, they will ride the hot hand and both have very good skillsets. But Gio will continue to play a large role Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,351 Posted September 21, 2015  Keep the ball out of Dalton's hands???? Pass whatever you are smoking this way!!!!! Dalton is a very good QB with very good WRs, especially now that Jones is back, get real dude!! That backfield will remain clouded, they will ride the hot hand and both have very good skillsets. But Gio will continue to play a large role  I would have accepted "decent QB" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 597 Posted September 21, 2015 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000535969/article/jeremy-hill-talks-benching-after-two-fumbles-vs-bolts   Ok I earlier said fumbling wasnt an issue. I was wrong. He has now fumbled 7 times in 18 career games. That is quite a lot.  it sounds like hes not losing his job, but he is on a short leash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoydogg 3 Posted September 21, 2015 Bengals coach Marvin Lewis expressed confidence in Jeremy Hill following Sunday's benching for fumbling, saying the early-down back would be "fine." Lewis said fumbles can become a mental issue for backs with "weak" personalities, but that Hill "doesn't have a weak personality." Lewis also said neither Hill nor Gio Bernard "can predict how many carries they'll get in a certain game." Basically, Lewis is saying the status quo will be restored after Sunday's benching. Hill will keep hammering on early downs, and Bernard will change the pace. Hill remains an RB1, but perhaps more in the 10-12 range than 5-8. Bernard has a nice floor for a FLEX option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Postman 3 Posted September 21, 2015 Â I would have accepted "decent QB" Â He's no Tom Brady, but my point was they NEVER game plan around keeping the ball out of Dalton's hands, not with the receiving corp that they possess. They may very well look to have a balanced attack but they are not looking to avoid him. That's why they paid him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoydogg 3 Posted September 21, 2015 They are a run first offense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Nice 40 Posted September 21, 2015 I really wonder how many in here watched the game. in the first half hill was about 8 carries for 38 yards almost 5ypc. I though he was running fine always falling forward and running hard. he nearly had his knee twisted when it was landed on on the first fumble. a fumble that on review looked like his knee was down but wasn't enough to overturn. in the 2nd half on his 2nd carry he dropped a pitch out. wasn't like the ball was stripped because he wasn't holding it right. the staff must have thought he wasn't focused or something. Â I would be shocked if the Bengals went back to what clearly didn't work the first half of last season which was a 75-25 split in gios favor which also got him hurt. Gio averaged 6.2 per carry and now sits at 6.6 ypc for the season...look out baby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
