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Round 1 - Geek Club History Draft

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So Volty asked me to help him out with the history draft voting since he is a bit burnt out I gladly helped him out, after six months of editing the same thread over and over I think I would be too. So this is how it is going to work, we are going to do a category every fews days, and you rank each participants entries 1-5 and then post. Let it begin!

 

 

 

Conqurer/Consolidator

Volty:

Qin Shi Huang Di - Qin Shi Huang was the First Emperor of a unified China, who ruled from 246 BC to 210 BC. He is credited to have unified China in 221 BC. Before the unification, China was made up of seven major states which were frequently at war with each other fighting to prove their own supremacy. Huang consolidated all the warring states and unified them into a single empire. The rulers before him had borne the title of king, but he took up the title of the First Emperor of the Qin dynasty. Qin Shi Huang was born as Ying Zheng, the eldest son of King Zhuangxiang of Qin, a ruler of the Qin state during the third century BC. The king died when Ying Zheng was only 13 years old. Even though the young boy succeeded the throne, he was still too young to rule and thus was aided by the Prime Minister Lu Buwei who acted as his regent for several years. Ying Zheng finally assumed full power as the King of the Qin state after years of political turbulence. Upon becoming the king he set forth to expand his kingdom by conquering all the warring states and unified them as one nation.

Robert Clive - also known as Clive of India, Commander-in-Chief of British India, was a British officer and soldier of fortune who established the military and political supremacy of the East India Company in Bengal. He is credited with securing India, and the wealth that followed, for the British crown. Together with Warren Hastings he was one of the key early figures in the creation of British India. He also sat for two boroughs as a Tory Member of Parliament in Great Britain.

Modern historians have criticised him for atrocities and pillaging of treasures which occurred in Bengal and India due to high taxation he instituted and for the forced cultivation of crops such as opium which resulted in famines.[1][2]

Sui Wen Di - Yangdi, also known as Emperor Yang of Sui, was the second emperor of China's Sui dynasty who ruled from 604 until his death in 618. Born as the second son of Emperor Wen of Sui, he was named Yang Ying at birth. However, he was renamed as Yang Guang after his father consulted the oracles which advised a change of name. Courageous and valiant from a young age, he commanded five armies in the invasion of the southern Chen dynasty while he was still a young price and received much praise for his bravery. After becoming the emperor he embarked on extensive military campaigns that vastly expanded his territories. During his reign several major construction projects were undertaken which included the building of large canals, roads, and palaces. He also ordered the reconstruction of the Great Wall, a project which resulted in the deaths of six million workers and nearly depleted the royal treasury. He spent lavishly on the construction projects which severely affected the country’s financial resources. Highly ambitious, the emperor was also very arrogant and cruel. It is generally believed that he ascended the throne after ordering the murder of his elder brother and father though his claim is unproven.

 

Menes - was an ancient Egyptian pharaoh of the early dynastic period, credited by classical tradition with having united Upper and Lower Egypt, and as the founder of the first dynasty (Dynasty I).[6]

The identity of Menes is the subject of ongoing debate, although mainstream Egyptological consensus identifies Menes with the protodynastic pharaoh Narmer[1][2][3] (most likely) or first dynasty Hor-Aha.[7] Both pharaohs are credited with the unification of Egypt, to different degrees by various authorities.

 

TBBOM:

Atilla the Hun - frequently referred to as Attila the Hun, was the ruler of the Huns from 434 until his death in March 453. Attila was a leader of the Hunnic Empire, a tribal confederation consisting of Huns, Ostrogoths, and Alans among others, on the territory of Central and Eastern Europe.

During his reign, he was one of the most feared enemies of the Western and EasternRoman Empires. He crossed the Danube twice and plundered the Balkans, but was unable to take Constantinople. His unsuccessful campaign in Persia was followed in 441 by an invasion of the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire, the success of which emboldened Attila to invade the West.[1] He also attempted to conquer Roman Gaul (modern France), crossing the Rhine in 451 and marching as far as Aurelianum (Orléans) before being defeated at the Battle of the Catalaunian Plains.

He subsequently invaded Italy, devastating the northern provinces, but was unable to take Rome. He planned for further campaigns against the Romans but died in 453. After Attila's death his close adviser Ardaric of the Gepidsled a Germanic revolt against Hunnic rule, after which the Hunnic Empire quickly collapsed.

 

Hernando Cortez - was a Spanish soldier, better known as the conqueror of Mexico, whose rags-to-riches story inspired numerous Spanish adventurers to explore the New World. His several expeditions brought land, power and wealth to him, thus entitling him as the greatest Spanish conqueror in the Central America. Besides conquering empires and increasing his land share, he is also credited for discovering the peninsula of California. He led the successful and audacious conquest of the great empire of the Aztecs, becoming the governor of the newly formed New Spain, or Mexico City, and enabling the Spanish rule over Mexico and Central America for nearly 300 years. The increasing value of cacao beans in Mexico, which were used as currency, encouraged him to start plantations in Mexico, Haiti, Java, Trinidad and other areas across the Caribbean, thus enabling the Spanish to rule the cocoa industry for several years. For his discoveries and expeditions, he was honored by King Charles I of Spain.

 

Saladin - Saladin, famous Sultan of Egypt, and founder of the ‘Ayyubid Dynasty’, began his military career with a minor role, assisting his uncle Shirkuh. However, soon he proved his ability, and was given charge of more important battles. After Shirkuh's death, he took over as the vizier of the ‘Fatimid Caliphate’ and waged several wars in this capacity, gradually increasing his power in the Caliphate. He was in particular, effective against the English Crusaders, defeating them in almost every war fought. He reached the height of his power when al-Adid, Caliph of the ‘Fatimid Dynasty’ died, and this shrewd leader formed an alliance with rival ‘Abbasids’. Also, when his mentor, Nur ad-Din died, he went on to conquer the whole of Syria, attacking each city one by one. His major victory came against King Richard the Lionheart during the 'Battle of Hatin', when Palestine once again became a part of a Muslim dynasty, after eighty-eight years. When he died, he left all his possessions to the poor citizens of his dynasty, leaving nothing behind to give him a decent burial.

Charlemagne - Charlemagne or Charles the Great (also called Charles I) was a medieval ruler - the emperor of most of the Western Europe. He was one of the most famous and powerful leaders to ever reign over Europe and is termed as ‘Father of Europe’ by some historians. During his reign, he brought into force many laws in order to keep the society well-organized and encourage learning. He built several churches and palaces, most of which are still standing but his main focus was to unite the Western Europe the way it had been during the time of the ancient Roman Empire. Before his death, he had already expanded his empire from modern-day France, Belgium, and the Netherlands to include Germany, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Austria, northern Spain, and northern Italy. The centre of his empire was Aachen, a city in western Germany near modern-day Belgium. It was here that he built his palace and a remarkable church which is one of the most important historic buildings in the world. By the time Charlemagne died, his Frankish empire was as big as the Byzantine Empire and had become the largest empire in Europe since that of the ancient Romans.

Bear:

Genghis Khan - Genghis Khan was the legendary political leader, who is famous even today for having established the powerful Mongol dynasty. Having faced destitution at a very tender age, he grew up with a hunger for power and respect. Since his father died when he was but a small boy, his mother taught him everything about Mongolian politics, where no tribe was on good terms with the other. The young man gradually began his conquests, and was eventually successful in bringing all powerful tribes under one umbrella. He is known to this day for his religious tolerance and general protective demeanour. This famous ruler is the symbol of patriotism in Mongolia, and his name and face is used on every product in the country, to help it sell. Though he is still a popular figure in the nation he laid the foundation of, in countries like China, people hold mixed sentiments about the leader. While his empire, which was later called the 'Yuan dynasty', helped bring together most of China, his conquests also caused the death of many people. In other parts of the world like the Middle East, this ruler is still abhorred, for having destroyed so many lives.

 

William the Conqurer - William the Conqueror was the Duke of Normandy, who later became the King of England. He was crowned the Duke in 1035 and over the years made himself the mightiest noble in France, later seizing the English throne in 1066. Born in France, William was an illegitimate child of Robert I, Duke of Normandy, who died abruptly while returning from a pilgrimage and thus, at the age of 8, William inherited his father’s throne. His early reign was plagued with violence as the feudal barons fought for the control of his fragile dukedom but William managed to survive them and grew up to become a great warrior, crushing the rebels and restoring his kingdom. Subsequently, childless King Edward the Confessor promised William succession to the English throne but upon Edward’s death, one of Edward’s relatives succeeded him as the King. Unsurprisingly, William felt betrayed and attacked England, which came to be known as the Battle of Hastings. Successful in his conquest of the English throne, William was crowned King and ruled England for 21 years (1066–1087) until his death. This conquest changed the course of English history, transforming almost every aspect of the nation, eventually making England the most powerful nation in Europe.

 

Pharaoh Thutmose III - Widely considered a military genius by historians, Thutmose III made 16 raids in 20 years. He was an active expansionist ruler, sometimes called Egypt's greatest conqueror or "the Napoleon of Egypt."[13] He is recorded to have captured 350 cities during his rule and conquered much of the Near East from the Euphrates to Nubia during seventeen known military campaigns. He was the first Pharaoh after Thutmose I to cross the Euphrates, doing so during his campaign against Mitanni. His campaign records were transcribed onto the walls of the temple of Amun at Karnak, and are now transcribed intoUrkunden IV. He is consistently regarded as one of the greatest of Egypt's warrior pharaohs, who transformed Egypt into an international superpower by creating an empire that stretched from southern Syria through to Canaan and Nubia.[14] In most of his campaigns his enemies were defeated town by town, until being beaten into submission. The preferred tactic was to subdue a much weaker city or state one at a time resulting in surrender of each fraction until complete domination was achieved.

 

Hari Singh Nalwa - was Commander-in-chief of the Khalsa, the army of the Sikh Empire. He is known for his role in the conquests of Kasur, Sialkot, Attock, Multan, Kashmir, Peshawar and Jamrud. He is also a founder of Haripur city.

Hari Singh Nalwa was responsible for expanding the frontier of Sikh Empire to beyond the Indus River right up to the mouth of the Khyber Pass. In 1831, he opposed moves by Ranjit Singh to appoint Kharak Singh as his successor as Maharaja of the Sikh Empire.[citation needed] At the time of his death, the western boundary of the empire was Jamrud.

He served as governor of Kashmir, Peshawar and Hazara. He established a mint on behalf of the Sikh Empire to facilitate revenue collection in Kashmir and Peshawar.[3]

 

Vudu:

Harry S. Truman - Harry S. Truman was the 33rd President of the United States. He assumed presidency after the sudden demise of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and was in the office from 1945 to 1953. He oversaw the end of World War II and is infamous as the man who approved the use of atomic weapons against Japan. Born in an ordinary family in Missouri, he did not attend college. After graduating from high school, he worked a number of jobs before volunteering for military duty during World War I. Through his valor and bravery he won respect and admiration and was promoted to captain. Post World War I, Truman forayed into business but was not very successful in his venture. He was first elected to the United States Senate in 1934 and was later reelected in 1940. President Roosevelt chose Truman as his running mate for the 1944 presidential election and they won the elections. Truman was vice president for just 82 days when the untimely demise of President Roosevelt thrust him to the chair of presidency. Truman’s reelection in the 1948 presidential elections is considered to be the greatest election upset in American history; he defied all the predictions and public opinion polls to emerge as victor. Truman’s presidency was marked by the beginning of the Cold War. After completion of his second term, he returned to Independence, Missouri and spent the rest of his life there.

 

Odoacer - also known as Flavius Odovacer (Italian: Odoacre, Latin: Odoacerus[2] German: Odoaker), was a soldier who in 476 became the first King of Italy(476–493). His reign is commonly seen as marking the end of the Western Roman Empire.[3] Though the real power in Italy was in his hands, he represented himself as the client of Julius Nepos[citation needed] and, after Nepos' death in 480, of the Emperor in Constantinople. Odoacer generally used the Roman honorific patrician, granted by the Emperor Zeno, but is referred to as a king (Latin rex) in many documents and he himself used it at least once and on another occasion it was used by the consul Basilius.[4]Odoacer introduced few important changes into the administrative system of Italy. He had the support of the Roman Senate and was able to distribute land to his followers without much opposition. Unrest among his warriors led to violence in 477–478, but no such disturbances occurred during the later period of his reign. Although Odoacer was an Arian Christian, he rarely intervened in the affairs of the orthodox and trinitarian state church of the Roman Empire.

Probably of Scirian descent, Odoacer was a military leader in Italy who led the revolt of Herulian, Rugian, and Scirian soldiers that deposed Romulus Augustulus on 4 September AD 476. Augustulus had been declared Western Roman Emperor by his father, the rebellious general of the army in Italy, less than a year before, but had been unable to gain allegiance or recognition beyond central Italy. With the backing of the Roman Senate, Odoacer thenceforth ruled Italy autonomously, paying lip service to the authority of Julius Nepos, the last Western emperor and Zeno the emperor of the East. Upon Nepos' murder in 480 Odoacer invaded Dalmatia, to punish the murderers. He did so, executing the conspirators, but within two years also conquered the region and incorporated it into his domain. When Illus, master of soldiers of the Eastern Empire, asked for Odoacer’s help in 484 in his struggle to depose Zeno, Odoacer invaded Zeno’s westernmost provinces. The emperor responded first by inciting the Rugi of present-day Austria to attack Italy. During the winter of 487–488 Odoacer crossed the Danube and defeated the Rugi in their own territory. Zeno also appointed the OstrogothTheoderic the Great who was menacing the borders of the Eastern Empire, to be king of Italy, turning one troublesome, nominal vassal against another. Theoderic invaded Italy in 489 and by August 490 had captured almost the entire peninsula, forcing Odoacer to take refuge in Ravenna. The city surrendered on 5 March 493; Theoderic invited Odoacer to a banquet of reconciliation and there killed him.

Odoacer is the earliest ruler of Italy for whom an autograph of any of his legal acts has survived to the current day. The larger portion of a record of Odoacer granting properties in Sicily and the island of Melita on the Adriatic coast to Pierius and issued in 488, was written in his reign.

 

James Polk - James Knox Polk has the distinction of not only being the 11th President of the United States of America but for also being the youngest among all who had graced this prestigious post till that time. Today, he is remembered as a man of unblemished character, who as per his word retired after serving a single presidential term, whereas if he wished, he could have easily won the reelection as popular sentiment was with him. He was responsible for exponentially extending the territories of America, in fact he added around million square miles to it. The regions James K. Polk, brought under the union included, Arizona, Utah, Nevada, California, Oregon, Idaho, Washington, a large part of New Mexico, and areas of Wyoming, Montana, and Colorado. He was a firm believer in the in the concept of "Manifest Destiny," as per which, it was thought that it was the United States preordained right to establish its republican ideology and system across the continent of North America. James K. Polk managed to achieve all the aims and objectives that he had set for himself before taking up the presidency. Read his biography to know more about this extraordinary statesman and leader.

 

Alaric - was the first King of the Visigoths from 395–410, son (or paternal grandson) of chieftain Rothestes.[2] Alaric is best known for his sack of Rome in 410, which marked a decisive event in the decline of the Roman Empire.

Alaric began his career under the Gothic soldier Gainas and later joined the Roman army. Alaric's first appearance was as the leader of a mixed band of Goths and allied peoples who invaded Thrace in 391 and were stopped by the half-Vandal Roman General Stilicho. In 394 he led a Gothic force of 20,000 that helped the Eastern Roman EmperorTheodosius defeat the Frankish usurper Arbogast at the Battle of Frigidus. Despite sacrificing around 10,000 of his men, Alaric received little recognition from the Emperor. Disappointed, he left the army and was elected reiks of the Visigoths in 395, and marched toward Constantinople until he was diverted by Roman forces. He then moved southward into Greece, where he sacked Piraeus (the port of Athens) and destroyed Corinth, Megara, Argos, and Sparta. As a response, the Eastern emperor Flavius Arcadius appointed Alaric magister militum ("master of the soldiers") in Illyricum.

In 401 Alaric invaded Italy, but he was defeated by Stilicho at Pollentia (modern Pollenza) on April 6, 402. A second invasion that same year also ended in defeat at the Battle of Verona, though Alaric forced the Roman Senate to pay a large subsidy to the Visigoths. During Radagaisus' Italian invasion in 406, Alaric remained idle in Illyria. In 408, Western Emperor Flavius Honorius ordered the execution of Stilicho and his family, amid rumours that the general had made a deal with Alaric. Honorius then incited the Roman population to massacre tens of thousands of wives and children of foederati Goths serving in the Roman military. Subsequently, around 30,000 Gothic soldiers defected to Alaric, and joined his march on Rome to avenge their murdered families.[3]

Moving swiftly along Roman roads, Alaric sacked the cities of Aquileia and Cremona and ravaged the lands along the Adriatic Sea. The Visigothic leader thereupon laid siege to Rome in 408. Eventually, the Senate granted him a substantial subsidy. In addition, Alaric forced the Senate to liberate all 40,000 Gothic slaves in Rome. Honorius, however, refused to appoint Alaric as the commander of the Western Roman Army, and in 409 the Visigoths again surrounded Rome. Alaric lifted his blockade after proclaiming Attalus as Western Emperor. Attalus appointed him magister utriusque militiae ("master of both services") but refused to allow him to send an army into Africa. Negotiations with Honorius broke down, and Alaric deposed Attalus in the summer of 410, and besieged Rome for the third time. Allies within the capital opened the gates for him on August 24, and for three days his troops sacked the city. Although the Visigoths plundered Rome, they treated its inhabitants humanely and burned only a few buildings. Having abandoned a plan to occupy Sicily and North Africa after the destruction of his fleet in a storm, Alaric died as the Visigoths were marching northward.

 

90sbaby:

Tamerlane - historically known as Tamerlane[1] (Persian: تيمور لنگ‎‎ Timūr(-e) Lang, "Timur the Lame"), was a Turco-Mongol conqueror and the founder of the Timurid Empire in Persia and Central Asia.[2] He was also the first ruler in the Timurid dynasty.

Born into the Barlas confederation in Transoxiana during the 1320s or 1330s, Timur gained control of the western Chagatai Khanate by 1370. From that base, he led military campaigns across Western, South and Central Asia, Caucasus and southern Russia, and emerged as the most powerful ruler in the Muslim world after defeating the Mamluks of Egypt and Syria, the emerging Ottoman Empire and the declining Delhi Sultanate. From these conquests he founded the Timurid Empire, but this empire fragmented shortly after his death.

Timur is considered the last of the great nomadic conquerors of the Eurasian Steppe, and his empire set the stage for the rise of the more structured and lasting Gunpowder Empiresin the 1500s and 1600s.[3][4]:1

Timur envisioned the restoration of the Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan. "In his formal correspondence Temur continued throughout his life to portray himself as the restorer of Chinggisid rights. He justified his Iranian, Mamluk and Ottoman campaigns as a re-imposition of legitimate Mongol control over lands taken by usurpers[5] To legitimize his conquests, Timur relied on Islamic symbols and language, referred to himself as the "Sword of Islam" and patronized educational and religious institutions. He converted nearly all the Borjigin leaders to Islam during his lifetime.

"Temur, a non-Chinggisid, tried to build a double legitimacy based on his role as both guardian and restorer of the Mongol Empire."[6]

Timur also decisively defeated the Christian Knights Hospitaller at Smyrna, styling himself a ghazi.[7]:91 By the end of his reign, Timur had gained complete control over all the remnants of the Chagatai Khanate, Ilkhanate, and Golden Horde and even attempted to restore the Yuan dynasty.[citation needed]

Timur's armies were inclusively multi-ethnic and were feared throughout Asia, Africa, and Europe,[7] sizable parts of which were laid waste by his campaigns.[8] Scholars estimate that his military campaigns caused the deaths of 17 million people, amounting to about 5% of the world population.[9][10]

He was the grandfather of the renowned Timurid sultan, astronomer and mathematician Ulugh Beg, who ruled Central Asia from 1411 to 1449, and the great-great-great-grandfather of Babur, founder of the Mughal Empire, which ruled parts of South Asia for over three centuries, from 1526 until 1857.[11][12] Timur is also recognized as a great patron of art and architecture, as he interacted with Muslim intellectuals such as Ibn Khaldun and Hafiz-i Abru.[7]:341–2

 

Cyrus the Great - commonly known as Cyrus the Great[6] (Persian: کوروش بزرگ‎‎, Kourosh-e-Bozorg) and also called Cyrus the Elder by the Greeks, was the founder of the Achaemenid Empire.[7] Under his rule, the empire embraced all the previous civilized states of the ancient Near East,[7] expanded vastly and eventually conquered most of Southwest Asia and much of Central Asia and the Caucasus. From the Mediterranean Seaand Hellespont in the west to the Indus River in the east, Cyrus the Great created the largest empire the world had yet seen.[8] Under his successors, the empire eventually stretched from parts of the Balkans (Bulgaria-Paeonia) and Thrace-Macedonia in the west, to the Indus Valley in the east. His regal titles in full were The Great King, King of Persia, King of Anshan, King of Media, King of Babylon, King of Sumer and Akkad, and King of the Four Corners of the World.

The reign of Cyrus the Great lasted between 29 and 31 years. Cyrus built his empire by conquering first the Median Empire, then the Lydian Empire and eventually the Neo-Babylonian Empire. Either before or after Babylon, he led an expedition into central Asia, which resulted in major campaigns that were described as having brought "into subjection every nation without exception".[9] Cyrus did not venture into Egypt, as he himself died in battle, fighting the Massagetae along the Syr Darya in December 530 BC.[10][11] He was succeeded by his son, Cambyses II, who managed to add to the empire by conquering Egypt, Nubia, and Cyrenaica during his short rule.

Cyrus the Great respected the customs and religions of the lands he conquered.[12] It is said that in universal history, the role of the Achaemenid Empire founded by Cyrus lies in its very successful model for centralized administration and establishing a government working to the advantage and profit of its subjects.[7] In fact, the administration of the empire through satraps and the vital principle of forming a government at Pasargadae were the works of Cyrus.[13] What is sometimes referred to as the Edict of Restoration (actually two edicts) described in the Bible as being made by Cyrus the Great left a lasting legacy on the Jewish religion, where, because of his policies in Babylonia, he is referred to by the Jewish Bible as Messiah (lit. "His anointed one") (Isaiah 45:1),[14] and is the only non-Jew to be called so:[15]

Cyrus the Great is also well recognized for his achievements in human rights, politics, and military strategy, as well as his influence on both Eastern and Western civilizations. Having originated from Persis, roughly corresponding to the modern Iranian province of Fars, Cyrus has played a crucial role in defining the national identity of modern Iran.[16][17][18]Cyrus and, indeed, the Achaemenid influence in the ancient world also extended as far as Athens, where many Athenians adopted aspects of the Achaemenid Persian culture as their own, in a reciprocal cultural exchange.[19]

So said the Lord to His anointed one, to Cyrus

In the 1970s, the Shah of Iran Mohammad Reza Pahlavi identified his famous proclamation inscribed onto Cyrus Cylinder as the oldest known declaration of human rights,[20] and the Cylinder has since been popularized as such.[21][22][23] This view has been criticized by some historians[24] as a misunderstanding[25] of the Cylinder's generic nature as a traditional statement that new monarchs make at the beginning of their reign.[22][23][26]

 

Mahmud of Ghazni - was the most prominent ruler of the Ghaznavid Empire. He conquered the eastern Iranian lands and the northwestern Indian subcontinent (modern Afghanistan and Pakistan) from 997 to his death in 1030. Mahmud turned the former provincial city of Ghazna into the wealthy capital of an extensive empire which covered most of today's Afghanistan, eastern Iran, and Pakistan, by looting the riches and wealth from the then Indian subcontinent.[2][3]

He was the first ruler to carry the title Sultan ("authority"), signifying the extent of his power, though preserving the ideological link to the suzerainty of the Abbasid Caliphate. During his rule, he invaded and plundered parts of Hindustan (east of the Indus River) 17 times.[3][4]

 

George W. Bush - During George W. Bush‘s eight-year, two-term presidency of the U.S.A, the “war on terror” was waged on real land, regardless of how ephemeral of a title it suggested. In retaliation to the September 11th attacks on American soil– the first of its kind since Pearl Harbor– the American Military mobilized en masse to extricate Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq, though the link of him to nuclear weaponry or the 9/11 attacks was tenuous at best. Even though the extrication of Hussein was a boon, the war raged through the country before he was ever found. From there, the war spread across the middle east in an effort to eradicate terrorist cells and eliminate Taliban and Al Qaeda presences. It’s been nearly 13 years since the war on terror, or more accurately, the war in the middle east, began, and it’s become quite the quagmire over that time. Incredibly, so much ground has been covered during the invasions that George Bush lands at 10 as one of the greatest conquerors in history.

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Here's my rankings:

 

1. TBBOM. Saladin and Attila the Hun are very strong candidates, but it is Charlemagne and Cortez that put his list over the top. All very powerful conquerors in their own right, and spanning multiple generations.

 

2. Bear. A very close second to TBBOM. Genghis Khan is easily the strongest conqueror known to mankind, and his other three are serviceable if not spectacular (with William the Conqueror being the next strongest pick).

 

3. Voltaire. The two Chinese emperors were very strong choices, but I didn't like the limited span of their conquests (i.e. primarily focused in Asia). Menes was another very strong pick. Clive was an interesting pick, but again limited in his span of influence.

 

4. 90s Baby. Loved the Cyrus pick and the Mahmud pick was also solid. Absolutely hated the Bush pick.

 

5. Vuduchile. Ugh - two United States presidents. Although Polk could be considered the greatest of the conquerors/consolidators of American society, the fact that they conquered lands that were arguably already entitled to didn't float my boat. Thanks for taking Odovacer to represent the Roman Empire...it is always hard to pick a true conqueror out of that bunch and you did a good job by selecting one of my favorites from that era.

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Sui Wen Di reunified China after a sustained period of division, shrinking and weakness, defeated his rival emperor and re-established China into a powerful expanding whole taking back lost territory from neighboring states.

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Oh my goodness. :shocking:

 

Hatshepsut was the step mother of Pharaoh Thutmose III. Please remove the write up and use mine or find another write up for my pick. Thank you, friend.

 

From Wiki:

Widely considered a military genius by historians, Thutmose III made 16 raids in 20 years. He was an active expansionist ruler, sometimes called Egypt's greatest conqueror or "the Napoleon of Egypt."[13] He is recorded to have captured 350 cities during his rule and conquered much of the Near East from the Euphrates to Nubia during seventeen known military campaigns. He was the first Pharaoh after Thutmose I to cross the Euphrates, doing so during his campaign against Mitanni. His campaign records were transcribed onto the walls of the temple of Amun at Karnak, and are now transcribed intoUrkunden IV. He is consistently regarded as one of the greatest of Egypt's warrior pharaohs, who transformed Egypt into an international superpower by creating an empire that stretched from southern Syria through to Canaan and Nubia.[14] In most of his campaigns his enemies were defeated town by town, until being beaten into submission. The preferred tactic was to subdue a much weaker city or state one at a time resulting in surrender of each fraction until complete domination was achieved.

Pharaoh Thutmose III - Conqueror

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I think TBBOM won this category.

 

As for myself, I waited far too long to start drafting in this category and the group I assembled reflects it.

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The Thutmose entry is wrong.

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I love all my picks but I won't rank myself in any of these, just the other four.

 

1) TBBOM- Scored Atiila from the top shelf

 

2) Bear - Bear has Genghis #1 overall and a strong supporting cast.

 

3) 90sbaby - Tamerlane and Cyrus are excellent. I was so focking p1ssed when Cyrus went just before I scooped him up. This plus Mahmud is better than TBBOM's top three. Then Bush locks TBBOM into first and opens the door for Bear's solid Team Genghis to squeak by into 2nd.

 

4) Vudu isn't too competitive in the category.

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Here's my rankings:

 

1. TBBOM. Saladin and Attila the Hun are very strong candidates, but it is Charlemagne and Cortez that put his list over the top. All very powerful conquerors in their own right, and spanning multiple generations.

 

2. Bear. A very close second to TBBOM. Genghis Khan is easily the strongest conqueror known to mankind, and his other three are serviceable if not spectacular (with William the Conqueror being the next strongest pick).

 

3. Voltaire. The two Chinese emperors were very strong choices, but I didn't like the limited span of their conquests (i.e. primarily focused in Asia). Menes was another very strong pick. Clive was an interesting pick, but again limited in his span of influence.

 

4. 90s Baby. Loved the Cyrus pick and the Mahmud pick was also solid. Absolutely hated the Bush pick.

 

5. Vuduchile. Ugh - two United States presidents. Although Polk could be considered the greatest of the conquerors/consolidators of American society, the fact that they conquered lands that were arguably already entitled to didn't float my boat. Thanks for taking Odovacer to represent the Roman Empire...it is always hard to pick a true conqueror out of that bunch and you did a good job by selecting one of my favorites from that era.

 

Why I actually thought that was one of my better picks, how can you deny the fact that Bush didn't conquer a massive amount of land?

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Why I actually thought that was one of my better picks, how can you deny the fact that Bush didn't conquer a massive amount of land?

Conquering something means you made it yours. All he did was invade.

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I love all my picks but I won't rank myself in any of these, just the other four.

 

1) TBBOM- Scored Atiila from the top shelf

 

2) Bear - Bear has Genghis #1 overall and a strong supporting cast.

 

3) 90sbaby - Tamerlane and Cyrus are excellent. I was so focking p1ssed when Cyrus went just before I scooped him up. This plus Mahmud is better than TBBOM's top three. Then Bush locks TBBOM into first and opens the door for Bear's solid Team Genghis to squeak by into 2nd.

 

4) Vudu isn't too competitive in the category.

 

Great minds think alike. By the way, love the draft...I've been following it pretty much since the inception. Great idea, and it's been entertaining to see how the selections went, especially since I'm a passionate history buff.

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So how is the scoring going to work Volty? You only get a point if you win a category or is it something like if you win a category you get 4 points and last gets 0?

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Great minds think alike. By the way, love the draft...I've been following it pretty much since the inception. Great idea, and it's been entertaining to see how the selections went, especially since I'm a passionate history buff.

HIROSHIOMA !@#

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Why I actually thought that was one of my better picks, how can you deny the fact that Bush didn't conquer a massive amount of land?

bush was just looking for an excuse to invade and he got it when 9/11 happened.

 

he didn't CONQUER anything. in fact, by the time his term was up, there was so much unfinished business over there, one could argue, while vomiting, that the Obama administration cleaned up as much of his mess as possible.

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So how is the scoring going to work Volty? You only get a point if you win a category or is it something like if you win a category you get 4 points and last gets 0?

I dunno. In case you didn't realize, I'm passing the buck to you. Here are three suggestions:

 

5-4-3-2-1

 

5-3-1-0-0

 

1-0-0-0-0

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I dunno. In case you didn't realize, I'm passing the buck to you. Here are three suggestions:

 

5-4-3-2-1

 

5-3-1-0-0

 

1-0-0-0-0

Probably going to go with the 5-3-1-0-0. I just need input from a few more people.

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Probably going to go with the 5-3-1-0-0. I just need input from a few more people.

works for me

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How come only jetdoc and I voted? C'mon guys.

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So it is looking like TBBOM is getting the five points, Bear three, and Volty 1. I don't see much shifting, so I think we can go ahead a lock round one up today.

 

Shame you guys hated the Bush pick so much, I don't think it should have sank me to fourth, but I'm not voting.

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TBBOM

Bear

90s

Vudu

Uh... If you want to go ahead and rank yourself, that's fine but I'd really appreciate including my roster on the rankings.

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So it is looking like TBBOM is getting the five points, Bear three, and Volty 1. I don't see much shifting, so I think we can go ahead a lock round one up today.

 

Shame you guys hated the Bush pick so much, I don't think it should have sank me to fourth, but I'm not voting.

I don't much like being in third either. The guy that founded China, the one who put it back together, the founder of ancient Egypt, and the guy responsible for the most prominent piece of the British Empire... alas...

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How come only jetdoc and I voted? C'mon guys.

 

I really think this should be judged by a panel of college history professors. We're just going to vote for the most famous names. :dunno:

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