Golf unveils a modern set of rules to make it easier to play

[Cruzer 1,996]

 

I am talking about hitting it OOB, not hitting a provo and walking up and playing distance and hitting 3, whether or not you find your drive

Under this scenario - you are playing an OB shot the same as a ball hit into a hazard... From a technical standpoint, sure - ok.. But unlike the hazard rule, you are not hitting 3, you would be hitting 4.

[parrot 789]

I don't think so. Primarily bcoz of the clear distinction between one being part of the golf course and the later being a non-part of the course.

 

The OB rule was originally created for the flamboyant, cocky and self loving Charles Blair McDonald.. When CB designed famed Chicago Golf Club it was the 1st 18 hole course in America. But much like Nicklaus does today, CB designed it to fit his left to right game... As it was well known back then, CB had a ferocious slice, that often would fly clear to other time zones not even part of the course.. It was not deemed fair that he be allowed to recover from such places - thus, the OB rule.... Hazards on the other hand, were long staples of early golf that formed more often by nature than by man - and almost always in the field of play... I think it's totally feasible to keep both - and speed up play at the same time.

 

You need OB obviously, it just doesn't need to be penalized like it is, IMO. A bad shot is a bad shot. It's like making a foul ball down the left field line worth two strikes but right field is still only one.

 

Of course I'm biased because, like I said, my whole course is laid out to punish me.

[edjr 6,898]

Under this scenario - you are playing an OB shot the same as a ball hit into a hazard... From a technical standpoint, sure - ok.. But unlike the hazard rule, you are not hitting 3, you would be hitting 4.

 

why? this is beyond insanity.

[Cruzer 1,996]

 

why? this is beyond insanity.

Well, I'm not speaking from an Official standpoint.. It may very well be the rule does in fact, treat all shots (OB and Hazards) the same.

 

I'm speaking from how I would do it - or how I would enforce it in my game... Those who think the penalty should be the same (regardless) have no appreciation for the importance of an area being part of the golf course and not.

[DankNuggs 305]

 

I am talking about hitting it OOB, not hitting a provo and walking up and playing distance and hitting 3, whether or not you find your drive

only for a lateral water hazard... take the walk of shame back to the original shot

[DankNuggs 305]

Under this scenario - you are playing an OB shot the same as a ball hit into a hazard... From a technical standpoint, sure - ok.. But unlike the hazard rule, you are not hitting 3, you would be hitting 4.

And pretending you hit a provisional to the spot you dropped.

[Cruzer 1,996]

And pretending you hit a provisional to the spot you dropped.

Correct.

[edjr 6,898]

only for a lateral water hazard... take the walk of shame back to the original shot

 

a tee shot? never seen it, ever.

 

you'd get booed off the course

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Well, I'm not speaking from an Official standpoint.. It may very well be the rule does in fact, treat all shots (OB and Hazards) the same.

 

I'm speaking from how I would do it - or how I would enforce it in my game... Those who think the penalty should be the same (regardless) have no appreciation for the importance of an area being part of the golf course and not.

 

I appreciate the game I just don't appreciate that rule since we typically don't play on huge courses.

[Cruzer 1,996]

St. Andrews was originally 22 holes - just imagine if they hadn't changed that.

[dain11279 980]

Ok lemme get this straight Ed, so if you hit your ball OUT OF BOUNDS you just go up to about where it went out and drop one and take a 1 shot penalty?

[edjr 6,898]

Ok lemme get this straight Ed, so if you hit your ball OUT OF BOUNDS you just go up to about where it went out and drop one and take a 1 shot penalty?

 

[parrot 789]

Ok lemme get this straight Ed, so if you hit your ball OUT OF BOUNDS you just go up to about where it went out and drop one and take a 1 shot penalty?

 

I don't get it. How is that more unthinkable than hitting it in A FOCKING LAKE and going up and dropping for a one shot penalty?

[dain11279 980]

 

 

Yeah, that's wrong

[Cruzer 1,996]

Ok lemme get this straight Ed, so if you hit your ball OUT OF BOUNDS you just go up to about where it went out and drop one and take a 1 shot penalty?

Brenden Grace would sure and hell would have liked to have done this at Chambers Bay.

[edjr 6,898]

 

I don't get it. How is that more unthinkable than hitting it in A FOCKING LAKE and going up and dropping for a one shot penalty?

 

[dain11279 980]

 

I don't get it. How is that more unthinkable than hitting it in A FOCKING LAKE and going up and dropping for a one shot penalty?

 

Because hazards and OB areas are 2 completely different rules. Not even saying that I agree with it, just how it is

[edjr 6,898]

 

Yeah, that's wrong

 

It may be, but that's how everyone I play with plays and the league rules.

 

we won't be on the tour anytime soon.

 

 

 

Most important saying in golf, my friends and I use.

If you're going to suck, suck fast

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Ok lemme get this straight Ed, so if you hit your ball OUT OF BOUNDS you just go up to about where it went out and drop one and take a 1 shot penalty?

 

Add me to that list. That's my original request.

[parrot 789]

 

Because hazards and OB areas are 2 completely different rules. Not even saying that I agree with it, just how it is

 

I understand that. I'm saying it's dumb.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

Because hazards and OB areas are 2 completely different rules. Not even saying that I agree with it, just how it is

 

Right and that's why I want the RULE changed (at least for amateurs) so there's no distinction between that and a hazard.

[dain11279 980]

 

I understand that. I'm saying it's dumb.

 

No argument there. I would love to get credit for the distance when I shank one OB instead of going through the humility of re-teeing

[edjr 6,898]

 

No argument there. I would love to get credit for the distance when I shank one OB instead of going through the humility of re-teeing

 

Oh, there are times you have to retee. if you hit it so poorly you get no distance and hitting it from a tee is better. or if you hit it in a spot where you have no shot.

[Cruzer 1,996]

 

Add me to that list. That's my original request.

Not me.. I'm okay allowing a drop at the point of entry - but under my rule you'd be hitting 4.

 

Golf courses have been designed with the penal severity built into them.. There is an adherent difference between standing on a tee box, with a 1 shot lead - knowing hitting it OB is all the more severe than just plunking it into a pond. There is an adherent pressure that comes with the distinction... I don't want that part of the equation removed.

[edjr 6,898]

Not me.. I'm okay allowing a drop at the point of entry - but under my rule you'd be hitting 4.

 

Golf courses have been designed with the penal severity built into them.. There is an adherent difference between standing on a tee box, with a 1 shot lead - knowing hitting it OB is all the more severe than just plunking it into a pond. There is an adherent pressure that comes with the distinction... I don't want that part of the equation removed.

 

I don't ever play strokes, not for money.

 

I want to get a 12 on one hole and still have a chance

[Cruzer 1,996]

 

I don't ever play strokes, not for money.

 

I want to get a 12 on one hole and still have a chance

If you were in our game, and were still dragging your ass chasing a 12, we'd leave you. Then charge a round of beers to your # the next time she came around.

[edjr 6,898]

If you were in our game, and were still dragging your ass chasing a 12, we'd leave you. Then charge a round of beers to your # the next time she came around.

 

in match play you don't need a 12, just pick the focking thing up.

 

I was being facetious.

 

with your scoring, I may as well pick up after hit OOB

[vuduchile 1,947]

If you hit OB during casual play, I'm ok with treating it like a hazard.

 

In 1

Out 2

Hitting 3

 

For serious games like leagues, club tourneys or big money games it's 2 strokes and distance.

[Cruzer 1,996]

 

in match play you don't need a 12, just pick the focking thing up.

 

I was being facetious.

 

with your scoring, I may as well pick up after hit OOB

If me and you are playing - we're already both drunk anyways.

[edjr 6,898]

If you hit OB during casual play, I'm ok with treating it like a hazard.

 

In 1

Out 2

Hitting 3

 

For serious games like leagues, club tourneys or big money games it's 2 strokes and distance.

 

 

if I am playing in a course tourney, I would play it correctly

[edjr 6,898]

If me and you are playing - we're already both drunk anyways.

 

hopefully sometime sooner rather than later

 

 

I haven't swung a club since I went to Myrtle on October

[Cruzer 1,996]

I haven't swung a club since I went to Myrtle on October

Wha, what? Damn - that's too damn long.. I have actually been working a ton of late.. I only have 5 official rounds since Jan. 1st.. I am playing this weekend though - need to get my ass to the range.. That last 84 left my ass, and wallet, sore.

[edjr 6,898]

Wha, what? Damn - that's too damn long.. I have actually been working a ton of late.. I only have 5 official rounds since Jan. 1st.. I am playing this weekend though - need to get my ass to the range.. That last 84 left my ass, and wallet, sore.

 

my best friend (golf buddy) moved to DC in november, I've lost all will to golf. not that the weather has been that nice

[parrot 789]

If you hit OB during casual play, I'm ok with treating it like a hazard.

 

In 1

Out 2

Hitting 3

 

For serious games like leagues, club tourneys or big money games it's 2 strokes and distance.

 

This.

[listen2me 23 1,952]

Or a free drop from hardpan. I don't get free clubs and NFW am I jacking mine up.

 

They should also make an amateur rule for Out of Bounds that you don't have to go back to the tee and hit again; just drop near where it went in at for a 1 stroke penalty. The courses we play don't have the real estate the pros do and it would speed up the pace of play.

So basically take OB away is what you are saying.

 

If it is close then just hit a provisional. It isnt rocket science and hardly slows play.

 

Your AM rule is your group rule. If you want to make it easier because you suck, no one is forcing you to play by the rules.

 

What slows play is sucky golf.

[fricker66 93]

I like the new drop rule. It will lessen the chances of having to drop 3 times, watch the ball roll away and then have to place it. Also, hit-when-ready is good, but I could see some pros using some gamesmanship with this one.

[Mike Honcho 5,433]

If they want to make the game easier to play for me, it's going to take a lot more new rules.

[edjr 6,898]

If they want to make the game easier to play for me, it's going to take a lot more new rules.

 

bigger hole would be a great start too

[fricker66 93]

 

bigger hole would be a great start too

 

When I started taking my son golfing a few years ago, we went to a local 9-hole course set up for families, and they have two holes on every green -- a regulation-sized hole and one which is about 3x the normal size. I made him play the regulation hole because I did not want him to be a poosay.

[parrot 789]

 

When I started taking my son golfing a few years ago, we went to a local 9-hole course set up for families, and they have two holes on every green -- a regulation-sized hole and one which is about 3x the normal size. I made him play the regulation hole because I did not want him to be a poosay.

 

Now tell the rest of the story where you beat him by 2 strokes because you were playing on the "adult sized" hole.