drobeski 3,061 Posted October 30, 2017 MANAFORT HAS BEEN INDICTED.yes tax cheat That has what to do with Trump and collusion ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 30, 2017 MANAFORT HAS BEEN INDICTED. Money laundering and tax evasion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,496 Posted October 30, 2017 MANAFORT HAS BEEN INDICTED. Nothing to see here. How about those NFL protests? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 30, 2017 Now it's been revealed Obama gave nearly 1 million to Fusion GPS. Is that why they were throwing Hillary and Podesta out there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 30, 2017 yes tax cheat That has what to do with Trump and collusion ? Â Rick Gates has also been indicted. Â So that's 1. the campaign manager for Donald Trump, and 2. the director of Trump's political organization. Â Tax cheat means that Manafort was hiding money. - Do you not know where the money came from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted October 30, 2017 I remember Wiff calling this Manafort thing a LONG time ago, while he was still campaign manager. Well done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 30, 2017 white flag  Dr I'm not here to win an argument, let the facts fall where they may. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 30, 2017 Money laundering and tax evasion. Â Do you know anything about what where Manafort and Gates are accused of getting the money from? Â Any idea? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 30, 2017 Â Rick Gates has also been indicted. Â So that's 1. the campaign manager for Donald Trump, and 2. the director of Trump's political organization. Â Tax cheat means that Manafort was hiding money. - Do you not know where the money came from? They went back several years on Manafort. It could be him helping broker the Uranium One deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 30, 2017 Â Do you know anything about what where Manafort and Gates are accused of getting the money from? Â Any idea? We'll find out soon dude. There will be several duh bombs to go off but I'm sure a few we couldn't see coming (Obama helping to pay for Dossier is one) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted October 30, 2017 This delusional stuff is really sad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 30, 2017 They went back several years on Manafort. It could be him helping broker the Uranium One deal. Â Well you're at least getting warmer. Â Manafort got his money from Putin, his intelligence services and connected oligarchs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 30, 2017 Â Well you're at least getting warmer. Â Manafort got his money from Putin, his intelligence services and connected oligarchs. no, you're getting colder. Â It's a duh bombshell there about who paid him. The real question is WHEN did he do it. While with Trump or a few years back when working with Dems. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 30, 2017 ... Â It's a duh bombshell there about who paid him. The real question is WHEN did he do it. While with Trump or a few years back when working with Dems. Â The accusation is Trump's campaign was influenced by Russian agents connected to Putin. Â Trump's campaign manager and political director have been indicted for receiving millions from Russian agents connected to Putin. Â You think when Manafort rose to the pinnacle of an American presidential campaign the Russians decided to just stop using him? Ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus Chrysler 29 Posted October 30, 2017 Yeah. There was no sense in having this investigation. LOL what a waste of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 30, 2017 Â The accusation is Trump's campaign was influenced by Russian agents connected to Putin. Â Trump's campaign manager and political director have been indicted for receiving millions from Russian agents connected to Putin. Â You think when Manafort rose to the pinnacle of an American presidential campaign the Russians decided to just stop using him? Ok. And how long was he the campaign manager? And why was he released? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 30, 2017 So we know Russia helped the Hillary campaign via the dossier funded by the DNC Hillary and Obama. When are those indictments being handed out? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 30, 2017 Strategy: Â "Ok Manafort, here's what we got for ya. We'll abstain from the Dinesh D'Souza treatment, and waive charges, IF you say that Russia paid you to influence Trump, and the Trump campaign gobbled it up like progs have gobbled up the entire rest of the meme while entirely ignoring the fact that a Russian-sourced dossier was used by the DNC to weaponize the FBI, etc, to ACTUALLY attempt to influence the election. Deal?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus Chrysler 29 Posted October 30, 2017 And how long was he the campaign manager? And why was he released? he was released for the same reason that Donald jr. Finally admitted to tell the truth about his secret meetings. You only hide things until you realize that the Jig Is Up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 30, 2017 he was released for the same reason that Donald jr. Finally admitted to tell the truth about his secret meetings. You only hide things until you realize that the Jig Is Up. How long was he the campaign manager Meathead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus Chrysler 29 Posted October 30, 2017 How long was he the campaign manager Meathead?who cares? Why was he hired in the first place? Think about it. Take off your blinders for the first time in your life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 30, 2017 who cares? Why was he hired in the first place? Think about it. Take off your blinders for the first time in your life. And he's also worked for the Democrats and McCain and God knows who else back when he was actually doing these crimes. Why did they hire him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted October 30, 2017 Yikes, Papadopoulos met with the Russians to discuss hacked emails. Â Plead guilty for lying about it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus Chrysler 29 Posted October 30, 2017 And he's also worked for the Democrats and McCain and God knows who else back when he was actually doing these crimes. Why did they hire him? if you're implying that I give a rat's ass if some Democrats also get taken down in this, you are as wrong as wrong can be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 30, 2017 Yikes, Papadopoulos met with the Russians to discuss hacked emails. Â Plead guilty for lying about it! Â Â He was arrested in JULY. Â What's the official TAKE on this, guys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 30, 2017 How long was he the campaign manager Meathead? Â His partner Rick Gates was Trump's director for his national political organization. Â Explain Gates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus Chrysler 29 Posted October 30, 2017 Yikes, Papadopoulos met with the Russians to discuss hacked emails. Â Plead guilty for lying about it! this. Everyone is talking about manafort because we all remember how important he was to Trump's campaign and at the RNC. But this guy pleading guilty and what he knows and has possibly told Mueller is the real bombshell. The Trump team is shiting their pants this morning. Have no doubt about that folks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 474 Posted October 30, 2017 Damn...https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4163402/Papadopoulos-Statement-Offense.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 30, 2017 The accusation is Trump's campaign was influenced by Russian agents connected to Putin.But that's not the content of this indictment. In fact, the name "Trump" doesn't appear in the indictment timed to the events accused at all. Trump's campaign manager and political director have been indicted for receiving millions from Russian agents connected to Putin.That's a definitive statement, but the indictment references activities outside of Trump - yet you are here attempting to connect the Trump campaign to these events even though the indictment doesn't relate the two. You think when Manafort rose to the pinnacle of an American presidential campaign the Russians decided to just stop using him? Ok. You obviously have decided that, even though the indictment doesn't give you any such support. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 434 Posted October 30, 2017 This is hilarious. Lotta bobbin' and weavin' going on up in here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 30, 2017 Damn...  https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4163402/Papadopoulos-Statement-Offense.pdf  Isn't that the guy who was brokering with Manafort? Is this who arranged the 'dirt meeting' with Russian Lawyer with Jr? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 30, 2017 Â His partner Rick Gates was Trump's director for his national political organization. Â Explain Gates. Â Gates was a business partner with Manafort at some point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joneo 557 Posted October 30, 2017  Isn't that the guy who was brokering with Manafort? Is this who arranged the 'dirt meeting' with Russian Lawyer with Jr?  http://goo.gl/images/ctbnWf  1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 30, 2017 Leftists are going to invent guilt and connections any way they need to do so at this point; that's all they've done to this point, so no one should be surprised. Â Manafort was indicted because he was easy pickins. He was indicted because he is Mueller's way to deflect away from the real collusion between Russians and Americans: between Democrats and Russians and to propagate the Left's meme of guilty through association, even though no dots connect. Â Manafort is clearly a corrupt guy. The Pedostas are clearly corrupt. Pedosta - unlike Manafort - still has ties to Hillary. Manafort was part of the Trump campaign for a hot minute; then he was out. Â I have no doubt that Russians were attempting to buy influence with Trump via Manafort. They didn't get a sale, though: not a shred of evidence exists that they did, which is why the Trump campaign is not mentioned once in the Manafort indictment. Â UraniumOne, though, is full of facts in evidence that the Clintons did, though. Imagine if it was Secretary of State Rex Tillerson who had connections to Russians; brokered the UraniumOne deal, and then it was discovered that the Rex Tillerson Foundation suddenly was the recipient of 145 million dollars, and Tillerson's wife got a $500,000 check from Russian bankers tied to the Kremlin for a 90 minute speech. Â Leftists would have strokes. They'd already have the guillotine built. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 30, 2017 Â Gates was a business partner with Manafort at some point. So why make him director of the national political organization? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted October 30, 2017 I still have nothing to add to this thread, carry on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 30, 2017 But that's not the content of this indictment. In fact, the name "Trump" doesn't appear in the indictment timed to the events accused at all.  That's a definitive statement, but the indictment references activities outside of Trump - yet you are here attempting to connect the Trump campaign to these events even though the indictment doesn't relate the two.  You obviously have decided that, even though the indictment doesn't give you any such support. We understand all that. I just asked a basic question. Do YOU think that the Russians who had paid Manafort for his political services in Ukraine simply decided to not call on him as campaign manager for the GOP nominee in the US election? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 474 Posted October 30, 2017  Isn't that the guy who was brokering with Manafort? Is this who arranged the 'dirt meeting' with Russian Lawyer with Jr? Yep.  And this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/21/donald-trump-reveals-foreign-policy-team-in-meeting-with-the-washington-post/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.ed4547fcfb50    For the first time, Trump also listed members of a team chaired by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) that is counseling him on foreign affairs and helping to shape his policies: Keith Kellogg, Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, Walid Phares and Joseph E. Schmitz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites