sderk 1,040 Posted December 23, 2018 For # of receptions at their positions in a single season. And McCaffrey didn't make the pro bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,469 Posted December 23, 2018 The agony of it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted December 23, 2018 For # of receptions at their positions in a single season. And McCaffrey didn't make the pro bowl. So whom would you take away from the list so McCaffrey can get in? Gurley, Elliot or Barkley? Before week 16, the total yards from scrimmage was: 1. Ezekiel Elliott 1892 2. Todd Gurley 1831 3. Saquon Barkley 1809 4. Christian McCaffrey 1747 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,066 Posted December 23, 2018 Chubb would have been up there if moron Hue would have played him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 23, 2018 So whom would you take away from the list so McCaffrey can get in? Gurley, Elliot or Barkley? Before week 16, the total yards from scrimmage was: 1. Ezekiel Elliott 1892 2. Todd Gurley 1831 3. Saquon Barkley 1809 4. Christian McCaffrey 1747 I didn't know the pro bowl was purely stats. Did Lindsey make the pro bowl? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,714 Posted December 24, 2018 New NFL. Low risk throws vs neutered defenses. Wittten of the three yard catch and fall down was the previous record holder. Not impressed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 24, 2018 New NFL. Low risk throws vs neutered defenses. Wittten of the three yard catch and fall down was the previous record holder. Not impressed. Well for McCaffrey, 5 yards per rush average this year and 8.2 yards per reception for an RB through 14 games sucks? You are seriously clueless and should not comment on football. For Ertz. Over 1000 yards receiving through 14 games, and over 10 yards per catch is bad as well I guess? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted December 24, 2018 Did Lindsey make the pro bowl? Yup... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ehlana 25 Posted December 24, 2018 I played against em both this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,714 Posted December 24, 2018 Well for McCaffrey, 5 yards per rush average this year and 8.2 yards per reception for an RB through 14 games sucks? You are seriously clueless and should not comment on football. For Ertz. Over 1000 yards receiving through 14 games, and over 10 yards per catch is bad as well I guess? The topic isn't rushing. McCaffery has been quite impressive in that department. I'm talking about the proliferation of the safe dump off pass or the pass within 3 yards of the LOS that has become the offensive strategy for many teams. Learn to read seajerk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 24, 2018 The topic isn't rushing. McCaffery has been quite impressive in that department. I'm talking about the proliferation of the safe dump off pass or the pass within 3 yards of the LOS that has become the offensive strategy for many teams. Learn to read seajerk. No. The topic is that Ertz and McCaffrey set records. That is all. Plus McCaffrey has a great yards per catch average. You have a low IQ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,714 Posted December 24, 2018 No. The topic is that Ertz and McCaffrey set records. That is all. Plus McCaffrey has a great yards per catch average. You have a low IQ. No issue with Ertz. Its the safe dump off pass thats everywhere now. I don't respect it. I like power running and downfield passing . McCaffery catching 100 uncontested passes wide open in the flat didn't mean much. Didn't help Carolina all that much either. They may want to involve the wide receivers in the game plan a bit more. It works. Whole game is set up for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 24, 2018 No issue with Ertz. Its the safe dump off pass thats everywhere now. I don't respect it. I like power running and downfield passing . McCaffery catching 100 uncontested passes wide open in the flat didn't mean much. Didn't help Carolina all that much either. They may want to invovebthe wide receivers in the game plan a bit more. It works. He set a record. Why aren't all the RBs setting these records year after year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,714 Posted December 24, 2018 He set a record. Why aren't all the RBs setting these records year after year? Teams run different offenses. Better ones that lead to more points and your offensive line not being wasted after running down field to block all day. And a running back who can kill a clock when you need it. MCCaffery aint doing that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 24, 2018 Teams run different offenses. Better ones that lead to more points and your offensive line not being wasted after running down field to block all day. And a running back who can kill a clock when you need it. MCCaffery aint doing that. McCaffrey is currently #4 in rushing yards. And of the top 7, he has the highest yards per attempt rushing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted December 24, 2018 McCaffrey is currently #4 in rushing yards. And of the top 7, he has the highest yards per attempt rushing. So? It is just stats... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 24, 2018 So? It is just stats... On top of being #4 in rushing, he is the best receiving RB in football. No big deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,714 Posted December 25, 2018 On top of being #4 in rushing, he is the best receiving RB in football. No big deal. You know Fantasy football. That's cool. But you don't know winning football. That's clear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 25, 2018 You know Fantasy football. That's cool. But you don't know winning football. That's clear. So you are blaming McCaffrey for the panthers sucking? And your comment displays supreme knowledge of managing an NFL team? Ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAn 39 Posted December 25, 2018 McCaffery catching 100 uncontested passes wide open in the flat didn't mean much. Didn't help Carolina all that much either. They may want to involve the wide receivers in the game plan a bit more. It works. Whole game is set up for it. Don't know if you've been watching today's NFL, and from your comments, apparently you haven't but... 5 of 6 top yardage offenses: Chiefs, Rams, Steelers, Pats, Saints pass to their RBs often 5 of 5 top scoring offenses: Chiefs, Rams, Steelers, Chargers, Saints pass to their RBs often 5 of 6 of those teams will be in playoffs, with other team (Steelers) in position to be in postseason as well. So those teams and us on board don't care that you're not impressed. It's what works in today's NFL. What was that about 'not knowing winning football' again? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,714 Posted December 25, 2018 Don't know if you've been watching today's NFL, and from your comments, apparently you haven't but... 5 of 6 top yardage offenses: Chiefs, Rams, Steelers, Pats, Saints pass to their RBs often 5 of 5 top scoring offenses: Chiefs, Rams, Steelers, Chargers, Saints pass to their RBs often 5 of 6 of those teams will be in playoffs, with other team (Steelers) in position to be in postseason as well. So those teams and us on board don't care that you're not impressed. It's what works in today's NFL. What was that about 'not knowing winning football' again? They also throw it downfield to their WR's. The Panthers don't. Remember when Eli was dumping the ball off to Barkley every other play? They weren't winning either. You have to do both to win. Taking the path of least resistance isn't a winning strategy. But you and the rest of the stat nerds can convince yourself you're watching the same game as those of us who know the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,606 Posted December 26, 2018 They also throw it downfield to their WR's. The Panthers don't. Remember when Eli was dumping the ball off to Barkley every other play? They weren't winning either. You have to do both to win. Taking the path of least resistance isn't a winning strategy. But you and the rest of the stat nerds can convince yourself you're watching the same game as those of us who know the game. to add to what you are saying here are the top 6 QB's in YPA Mahomes Rivers Goff Watson Brees Wilson/Ryan only Ryan who is tied for 6th is not going to the playoffs, also the top 5 represent the top 5 records in the NFL so if you want to win, YPA is the no 1 stat edit:sorry forgot the Bears 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 26, 2018 They also throw it downfield to their WR's. The Panthers don't. Remember when Eli was dumping the ball off to Barkley every other play? They weren't winning either. You have to do both to win. Taking the path of least resistance isn't a winning strategy. But you and the rest of the stat nerds can convince yourself you're watching the same game as those of us who know the game. Both the Giants and the Panthers have bad QBs. QB is the most impacting position on the field. Can't blame McCaffrey for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,606 Posted December 26, 2018 Both the Giants and the Panthers have bad QBs. QB is the most impacting position on the field. Can't blame McCaffrey for that. I agree that Mccaffrey is a stud and my favorite RB in the NFL that being said, good QB's make their RB's better Rams for example when Goff sucked Gurley sucked Gordon's worst years were Rivers worst years See something like KC or Pitt who can plug in any RB and have success David Johnson is useless cause his QB blows I honestly don't know what to think of the RB position, imo, there isn't much difference skill wise from the best to the 15th best Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 26, 2018 I agree that Mccaffrey is a stud and my favorite RB in the NFL that being said, good QB's make their RB's better Rams for example when Goff sucked Gurley sucked Gordon's worst years were Rivers worst years See something like KC or Pitt who can plug in any RB and have success David Johnson is useless cause his QB blows I honestly don't know what to think of the RB position, imo, there isn't much difference skill wise from the best to the 15th best Yeah. How many top current day RBs couldn't do what Emmitt Smith did behind the best o-line in probably all of history? Aikman was not great but really good. That's why drafting an RB top 10 is a wasted pick unless that is all you need. McCaffrey is a special player for current times. Too bad they have Newton. They are committed probably for at least a couple more years to that guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,714 Posted December 26, 2018 Both the Giants and the Panthers have bad QBs. QB is the most impacting position on the field. Can't blame McCaffrey for that. The topic was the amount of catches he had. I said I wasn't impressed and that it's not a winning strategy. I proved my point. You yelled about stats. Fantasy nerd vs real life football analysis. I won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtimer 84 Posted December 26, 2018 Yeah. How many top current day RBs couldn't do what Emmitt Smith did behind the best o-line in probably all of history? Aikman was not great but really good. That's why drafting an RB top 10 is a wasted pick unless that is all you need. McCaffrey is a special player for current times. Too bad they have Newton. They are committed probably for at least a couple more years to that guy. Do you mean when Emmitt ran the Cowboys into the playoffs with a dislocated shoulder? It was hanging two inches below his other shoulder. Or do you mean when he actually played that way throughout the playoffs AND the Superbowl with said shoulder injury? There isn't a RB in the league today who would/could do that. They would go on IR to have their surgery immediately. Yes, Emmitt had one of the best offensive lines in the history of the game, but the guy also played seriously injured and didn't run out of bounds on plays. Who does that today? No one. I'm not the biggest fan in the world of Emmitt, but c'mon, his line didn't make him as a running back. His vision and heart did. If you disagree, go back and watch the 15 games he played while hurt, or the 2nd half against the Giants in the last game of the season to determine who won the division. You won't see that in todays NFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 26, 2018 Do you mean when Emmitt ran the Cowboys into the playoffs with a dislocated shoulder? It was hanging two inches below his other shoulder. Or do you mean when he actually played that way throughout the playoffs AND the Superbowl with said shoulder injury? There isn't a RB in the league today who would/could do that. They would go on IR to have their surgery immediately. Yes, Emmitt had one of the best offensive lines in the history of the game, but the guy also played seriously injured and didn't run out of bounds on plays. Who does that today? No one. I'm not the biggest fan in the world of Emmitt, but c'mon, his line didn't make him as a running back. His vision and heart did. If you disagree, go back and watch the 15 games he played while hurt, or the 2nd half against the Giants in the last game of the season to determine who won the division. You won't see that in todays NFL. I can't comment on players and injuries because I don't know what some of these guys play through as they often don't like letting other teams know what type of injury they have. I don't think playing with an injury makes a player great. But I do know that when a team has a great offensive line, most times their RBs have great years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 569 Posted December 26, 2018 Giants fan, hate the Cowboys. Emmett was a gamer, one of the best of all time, great line or not. Not really that complicated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 26, 2018 Giants fan, hate the Cowboys. Emmett was a gamer, one of the best of all time, great line or not. Not really that complicated Smith was very good for sure. I'm just saying that behind that Cowboy o-line, even Melvin Gordon, Joe Mixon, Phillip Lindsay, Nick Chubb, Derek Henry, Chris Carson, Kenyon Drake, Marlon Mack, Lamar Miller.....etc..... would have been very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 569 Posted December 26, 2018 Impossible to prove obviously and maybe for a year or two you'd be right, but not for a decade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 26, 2018 Impossible to prove obviously and maybe for a year or two you'd be right, but not for a decade I'm less trying to diminish Smith's numbers but rather raise up that o-line. That has to be the best of all time. In a run first era, they dominated like no other o-line in history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites