Coronavirus - Doomsday

[SaintsInDome2006 780]

Just now, nobody said:

Yeah, if trump dies tomorrow, our nation's security is focked.  Trump's holding it all together.  Okay, man. 

The President dying would be a national security crisis. 

[dogcows 1,231]

Just now, nobody said:

Yeah, if trump dies tomorrow, our nation's security is focked.  Trump's holding it all together.  Okay, man.  

Meanwhile, everyone but the wokies knew Biden had dementia before he was even elected, and somehow the nation didn't fall apart, although it did likely empower Putin to invade Ukraine.  So good job there, wokies.

Man, this dude won a popularity contest.  He's got nothing to do with national security.  In fact, given how these mofos handle classified intelligence, they're all probably more hinderances to security than helpful.

You guys really don't know what leaders do at the top level do you?  You think they sit around making defense plans and writing EOs or something?  Presidents, CEOs... they define themes.  they define policies.  they define strategies, and then if they're good at what they do, they hire good people to go execute strategy and policy.  In Trump's case, he just spouts some generally actionable nonsense (at least on a good day it's actionable), and someone behind the scene turns that into something that hopefully makes some bit of sense.

In the president's case, there are teams and teams and teams of people who actually run sh¡t that Trump doesn't even know exist.

Yep, it’s Weekend at Donnie’s - he is completely out of it and weirdos like Stephen Miller are calling the shots.

[nobody 2,930]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

The President dying would be a national security crisis. 

no it wouldn't.  there's this thing called line of succession.  

[SaintsInDome2006 780]

4 minutes ago, dogcows said:

As for limiting the spread… if people are vaccinated, they can fight the virus. Meaning their body kills the virus. Meaning less virus around to spread. It’s really that simple. But again... Not simple enough for MAGA folks apparently.

Finally, the (supposed, data is not verified) risk of heart issues from the vaccine is lower than the risk of getting struck by lightning. Meanwhile, getting the virus increases your risk of heart issues. 

But the President’s doctors don’t agree with this. That’s my whole point. I really don’t want to argue virology, I’m just saying that the best physicians & virologists in the country recommend it. 

[SaintsInDome2006 780]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

no it wouldn't.  there's this thing called line of succession.  

Thanks, admittedly IMO, though there’s a good deal of history behind my point. I think you’d at least agree Trump is getting the very best treatment possible anywhere. When he got Covid in 2020 he received treatment that hadn’t even been released to the public yet.

[nobody 2,930]

On 12/8/2025 at 11:20 AM, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Thanks, admittedly IMO, though there’s a good deal of history behind my point.

Like what?  Kennedy got assassinated coming off of cuban missile crisis, and nothing happened.

Swear the next guy in.  As long as they aren't as clearly vulnerable as Biden was, everything will be fine.  They're all the same anyway.  Just don't be a simp.

A clearly compromised Biden going on tv and drooling all over himself in a presidential debate letting the world know we had a vegetable with his finger on the button was a bigger national security issue.  Well, I say let the world know, but I'm sure everyone already knew.  The wokies, yet again, were the last ones to catch up. 

I wonder where these amazing doctors that you hold in such high esteem were when that went down because anyone who's ever been around someone with dementia knew right away back in the original election that cat was on borrowed time, and several of us on this site said it at the time.  You remember what your team said?  It was a stutter. 

Yeah, let me trust y'all.  I don't even understand why y'all keep insisting on having opinions.  If I focked up as much as you guys did over installing biden and covid handling, I'd be gun shy about having strong opinions, but y'all just keep going.

 

[SaintsInDome2006 780]

42 minutes ago, nobody said:

Like what?  Kennedy got assassinated coming off of cuban missile crisis, and nothing happened.

Swear the next guy in.  As long as they aren't as clearly vulnerable as Biden was, everything will be fine.  They're all the same anyway.  Just don't be a simp.

A clearly compromised Biden going on tv and drooling all over himself in a presidential debate letting the world know we had a vegetable with his finger on the button was a bigger national security issue.  Well, I say let the world know, but I'm sure everyone already knew.  The wokies, yet again, were the last ones to catch up. 

I wonder where these amazing doctors that you hold in such high esteem were when that went down because anyone who's ever been around someone with dementia knew right away back in the original election knew that cat was on borrowed time, and several of us on this site said it at the time.  You remember what your team said?  It was a stutter. 

Yeah, let me trust y'all.  I don't even understand why y'all keep insisting on having opinions.  If I focked up as much as you guys did over installing biden and covid handling, I'd be gun shy about having strong opinions, but y'all just keep going.

I think you’re thinking of a situation where someone just keels over. I think I’m thinking of a situation like Garfield where it takes a long time. Or maybe Wilson who didn’t die but who was a quasi-vegetable for months. 

I think you’re also way underestimating how shaky things can be when a president dies. There was a period between when Kennedy died & Johnson was sworn in where the US was quite vulnerable. Reagan was shot but he didn’t transfer power but instead of Bush the Sec. of State held a press conference where he announced he was in charge.

Also the ‘you guys’ thing - you’re an individual not some party-bot. At least thats how I view your opinions here.

[TimHauck 3,408]

54 minutes ago, nobody said:

I remember when the jabs first came out.  They thought everyone would be tripping over themselves to go get it.  And while all the lefties were body checking grandmas to get in line first, all the common sense people were like, "Sure.  I don't even want it anyway."  

For the record:

• The wokies told you you needed to get the jab.  If you're young and healthy, you ain't dying of covid.  You probably didn't need a jab and you sure as hell don't need to keep getting jabs.  It's just like any other medicine.  Every single one has side effects.  Don't take anything you don't absolutely need to take
• The wokies told you it would stop the spread.  The jab won't stop the spread, so getting the jab isn't saving grandma.  Not a reason to take it.
• If you're old, if you're fat, if you have compromised immune system, you should probably get at least one jab.  Fauci focked you good by funding wuhan labs (and then lying about it).  You're going to have to pick the lesser of two evils here because the problem is you're going to have an elevated risk of dying from the vid or you're going to have an elevated risk of having some heart problem from the jab (glad they at least finally started admitted that is happening).

It ain't hard until you guys started listening to Fauci cover for his lies and Bourla trying to make more money and a bunch of ivory tower policy makers that made a trillion dollar mistake shutting businesses down trying to save granny.

 

This isn’t completely wrong, but a couple things:

1) I disagree that “common sense people” didn’t want it.  I’d say a majority of them did.

2) I hate when people say stuff like “it didn’t stop the spread.”   Define “stop”?   100% stop it completely?  No.  But pre-Omicron, it did provably reduce infections.  It definitely slowed the spread, even if you might have gotten Covid from a gay orgy in Ptown.

[lickin_starfish 2,028]

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[seafoam1 3,505]

On 12/8/2025 at 3:04 PM, TimHauck said:

This isn’t completely wrong, but a couple things:

1) I disagree that “common sense people” didn’t want it.  I’d say a majority of them did.

2) I hate when people say stuff like “it didn’t stop the spread.”   Define “stop”?   100% stop it completely?  No.  But pre-Omicron, it did provably reduce infections.  It definitely slowed the spread, even if you might have gotten Covid from a gay orgy in Ptown.

1) Wrong

2) No one cares about all the things you hate in life. In fact, your whinly BS schtick is old and tired. No wonder why fbgheys shut you all down. 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,037]

Don’t go the beach! Go to Wal Mart! 

[lickin_starfish 2,028]

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[Fnord 2,639]

On 12/8/2025 at 1:32 PM, nobody said:

Like what?  Kennedy got assassinated coming off of cuban missile crisis, and nothing happened.

Swear the next guy in.  As long as they aren't as clearly vulnerable as Biden was, everything will be fine.  They're all the same anyway.  Just don't be a simp.

A clearly compromised Biden going on tv and drooling all over himself in a presidential debate letting the world know we had a vegetable with his finger on the button was a bigger national security issue.  Well, I say let the world know, but I'm sure everyone already knew.  The wokies, yet again, were the last ones to catch up. 

I wonder where these amazing doctors that you hold in such high esteem were when that went down because anyone who's ever been around someone with dementia knew right away back in the original election that cat was on borrowed time, and several of us on this site said it at the time.  You remember what your team said?  It was a stutter. 

Yeah, let me trust y'all.  I don't even understand why y'all keep insisting on having opinions.  If I focked up as much as you guys did over installing biden and covid handling, I'd be gun shy about having strong opinions, but y'all just keep going.

 

"Nothing happened" after Kennedy got assassinated?  A POTUS dying in office is a very big deal, and will always create some level of crisis. Now if this PARTICULAR president were to die in office, and there was even a half-baked miniscule chance that the causes weren't natural, you'd have a few thousand rough and ready rednecks out for blood. I saw what happened when a relative nobody like Charlie Kirk got killed. That was far from "nothing."

As for your Covid opinions, the bolded really focked with my irony meter. You'll pardon me if I choose to listen to those who've spent years being educated in health care and disease treatment/prevention over whatever mooks you're listening to. And conflating doctors and Covid with Biden's cognitive incapacitation isn't even a good whatabout. It's apples and solar systems.

I'm not trying to be a richard; I have nothing whatsoever against you personally. But you seem to be one of a great many people that are eager to ignore expert opinions because they are politically inconvenient, which is just another example of the many destructive mindsets this admin has normalized. Hell, he's doing everything he can to remove experts from every level of government.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,037]

Somewhere buried in this thread that Tim Hauck lost is me saying how stupid it was to be wearing a mask and keeping 15 ft apart at a kids soccer game outside.  I remember some FNord Karen actually going around enforcing it. I wish I said to piss off. But they had a cop at the field. Funny I haven’t seen one there since. 

[nobody 2,930]

34 minutes ago, Fnord said:

"Nothing happened" after Kennedy got assassinated?  A POTUS dying in office is a very big deal, and will always create some level of crisis. Now if this PARTICULAR president were to die in office, and there was even a half-baked miniscule chance that the causes weren't natural, you'd have a few thousand rough and ready rednecks out for blood. I saw what happened when a relative nobody like Charlie Kirk got killed. That was far from "nothing."

As for your Covid opinions, the bolded really focked with my irony meter. You'll pardon me if I choose to listen to those who've spent years being educated in health care and disease treatment/prevention over whatever mooks you're listening to. And conflating doctors and Covid with Biden's cognitive incapacitation isn't even a good whatabout. It's apples and solar systems.

I'm not trying to be a richard; I have nothing whatsoever against you personally. But you seem to be one of a great many people that are eager to ignore expert opinions because they are politically inconvenient, which is just another example of the many destructive mindsets this admin has normalized. Hell, he's doing everything he can to remove experts from every level of government.

Except my opinions that I said three months into covid were correct, and the policy makers that presumably were listening to doctors were wrong.  We should've never shut down.  We should've never forced the jab on young healthy people.  Your problem is you think we live in a ideal society where people do things out of moral character.  The main motivation of all those clowns is 1. Keep their job, 2. Cover their ass, 3. Make money................ 4. Set policy that benefit us hoi polloi.  Once you start to realize that, you'll understand life better.  That's why I could look around with my own eyes and see the policies were bunk.  Although I'm sure you'll be one of the many here who say they didn't support mandates with 0.00000001% of your energy and spend the rest of your energy saying dancing around why it was cool.

And the Biden thing isn't whataboutism.  It's precedent.  We had a straight up incapacitated president asleep at the wheel.  Everyone but the wokies knew it. Nothing happened (except putin invading Ukraine since he was empowered to do so by a vegetable president who knew was in know position to make any real stand).

And yes nothing happened after kennedy got assassinated.  People feeling anxious doesn't amount to a crisis.  

Way to jam so much wrong in one post.  The density of wrong in there is off the charts. Impressive.

[nobody 2,930]

I'll break this out because it's an important point.

Subject matter experts catastrophize.  I'll say it again.  Subject matter experts make catastrophies out of their specialities.  

I'm an engineer.  Oftentimes, we design something and it has some hidden problem that we can't figure out, so we bring in experts.

I've literally never ever ever ever brought in an expert that didn't say everything to do with their speciality is completely FUBAR and we need to redesign everything.

1. The power guy says the power is all wrong and we need to redesign all the power.  100% sure our problem is from power
2. The signal integrity guy says our layout is all wrong and they're 100% sure our problem is a signal integrity problem.
3. RF guy says the RF is all wrong and we need to completely redesign everything.  100% convinced that's the problem

Then turns out it was some software problem we finally catch and everything works great.

But my job as a leader is to make decisions.  And in most companies we don't make high dollar decisions unless we're absolutely god damned sure.  So here's what we do.  We listen to everyone.  We create an impact assessment.  If the impact is high, we make the sky screamers prove to us what they are sky screaming about before we do anything.  We don't make decisions out of fear and because we don't have an endless amount of tax payer dollars to waste, we invest our time and money wisely by making policy that considers all aspects of the decision.

In covid, we listened to the sky screamers and made a trillion dollar mistake out of fear grandma would die.  Guess what? grandma was getting covid anyway.  There was no need to waste trillions of dollars. 

In covid, by the time the jab hit, it was obvious young, healthy people were not at risk of dying.  There was no reason to force them to take fast-tracked vaccine.

Leaders have to make shìtty decisions sometimes.  Tanking the economy to save grandma was the wrong move   we made decisions out of fear.

You'll claim hindsight .. nope we said it in real time. 

You'll claim novel virus... Indeed it was a novel virus.  That's why you don't make trillion dollar decisions with incomplete information.  Again... Making decisions out of fear, and out of covering your ass.  And once it was clear, our decision making was overly draconian, we didn't course correct.  Why?  Fear.  "If I change my decision, it'll look bad on me." "If Grandma dies, I need say I did something.  Let's burn these trillions."

Nope.  It was terrible decision making all the way around.  People with common sense knew it in near real time.  The media told you it was righteous, so now you'll go to your grave believing that.