[** Official President Joe Biden Thread **]

[Hardcore troubadour 15,230]

Biden looked and sounded great. Tanned, rested and ready. Let’s move on. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Biden looked and sounded great. Tanned, rested and ready. Let’s move on. 

. I’m with you 100%!

Nothing to see here…. Move along….

[Hardcore troubadour 15,230]

A weary nation can now rest assured that the republic is in good hands. God bless America. And god bless the president. 

[Voltaire 5,280]

He answered with complete sentences. That's awesome.  Good job, Brandon. If you can just hold strong for a few more weeks, the whiners will go away.

His rabid staff-attacking dog should give his slack jaw mouth a big sloppy wet kiss for this.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

On the positive side, Joe managed to refrain from doing Fire Marshall Bill face during the 22 minute interview.

[Voltaire 5,280]

President Biden sits down for interview with George Stephanopoulos l ABC News exclusive - YouTube

This interview is way, way better than I expected. What a weird feeling rooting for this dirtbag to do well, fully expecting him to fail, and surprised that he did well. He wasn't the retard we've seeing for years.

Stephanapolis asked solid probing questions that Democrat scumballs have started wondering about his limited brain function too. 

Brandon doesn't look at all ready to drop and out there's a solid chance he won't. Just hold strong, weather this, and last a few more weeks.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,308]

But he stopped Putin. Why are we funding Ukraine 

also he admitted he’s the one responsible for expanding nato and creating the war.  But some libtards and conservatives have argued with me continually that we had nothing to do with that 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

15 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

But he stopped Putin. Why are we funding Ukraine 

also he admitted he’s the one responsible for expanding nato and creating the war.  But some libtards and conservatives have argued with me continually that we had nothing to do with that 

What will be lost here is that Biden lied throughout the interview.  When asked about Sen. Warner’s reported efforts to get him to drop out of the race he said, “Mark is a good man. He also tried to get the nomination, too.”  Uhhh, Warner didn’t run for office.

Biden also lied saying he was down 10 points prior to the debate in The NY Times poll and after the debate it went to 9 points.  Not even close to the truth.  He also said that he put Putin in his place, and that Trump was yelling at him during the debate.  Those were just the lies that I noticed. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,308]

Bleach in your arms. Really? I’m just watching right now 

[Voltaire 5,280]

Biden dismisses report on Warner telling him to step aside (youtube.com)

The corporate media is desperate and trying really hard to sh*tcan Biden but he's taking it well. It's pretty refreshing and reassuring. Plus, he was solid in that Stephanapolus interview too. 

All week I was sure they'd knock him out: too foolish, too incompetent, and about as exciting as a wet fart. Now I'm really 50/50 that it will happen.

Hopefully he holds the line. It's so Bizzaro-world weird to find myself in common cause and genuinely rooting for this guy to not flop over.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,308]

3 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Biden dismisses report on Warner telling him to step aside (youtube.com)

The corporate media is desperate and trying really hard to sh*tcan Biden but he's taking it well. It's pretty refreshing and reassuring. Plus, he was solid in that Stephanapolus interview too. 

All week I was sure they'd knock him out: too foolish, too incompetent, and about as exciting as a wet fart. Now I'm really 50/50 that it will happen.

Hopefully he holds the line. It's so Bizzaro-world weird to find myself in common cause and genuinely rooting for this guy to not flop over.

I thought he was just as bad tonight as the debate. It was flat garbage. To quote Jill he didn’t answer any questions 

[The Real timschochet 6,587]

I just watched the interview. Biden was stubborn, detached from reality, filled with hubris, incredibly arrogant (he keeps saying he is the ONLY ONE who can defeat Trump.) 

I am writing this as somebody who, unlike most in this forum, actually likes Joe Biden. I approve of his policies and think he’s done a very fine job as President. But we are watching a Shakespearean tragedy played out in real time. Like MacBeth, like Muhammad Ali at the end of his career. He doesn’t want to leave the stage. And the consequences are very great. 

It was Mick Jagger who wrote over 50 years ago “what a drag it is getting old”. Mick is currently on tour…

[seafoam1 2,913]

11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I just watched the interview. Biden was stubborn, detached from reality, filled with hubris, incredibly arrogant (he keeps saying he is the ONLY ONE who can defeat Trump.) 

I am writing this as somebody who, unlike most in this forum, actually likes Joe Biden. I approve of his policies and think he’s done a very fine job as President. But we are watching a Shakespearean tragedy played out in real time. Like MacBeth, like Muhammad Ali at the end of his career. He doesn’t want to leave the stage. And the consequences are very great. 

It was Mick Jagger who wrote over 50 years ago “what a drag it is getting old”. Mick is currently on tour…

Liberals are so stupid. 

[The Real timschochet 6,587]

39 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Liberals are so stupid. 

Yep. But no matter how stupid we get we will never be as stupid as you. So I’m OK with it. 

[Voltaire 5,280]

Also props to George Stephanopolis for asking difficult, deeply probing questions and presenting hard truths for Biden to deal with. It was almost hostile, similar to how the press treats Trump. He didn't hold back, those questions and follow ups were at the core of what Dems want to hear answered.

[seafoam1 2,913]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yep. But no matter how stupid we get we will always be the most stupid alive.

[The Real timschochet 6,587]

2 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Also props to George Stephanopolis for asking difficult, deeply probing questions and presenting hard truths for Biden to deal with. It was almost hostile, similar to how the press treats Trump. He didn't hold back, those questions and follow ups were at the core of what Dems want to hear answered.

Sure. But I doubt anyone was satisfied. 
 

Here’s the thing: the only way the Democrat, whoever it is, wins this election is if the focus is on Trump. And the result of the debate is that, if Biden stays in, the focus will not be on Trump. Thats why he’s got to quit. It’s unfair IMO, it’s nobody’s fault. But because of that debate Biden probably cant  win. Not saying Kamala or somebody else will do better but we’ve got to try. Otherwise we’re just throwing this election away to satisfy Biden’s ego. If it were a normal Republican running I’d be OK with that. But I truly believe that Donald Trump is an existential threat to America (I know you disagree) and so I’m not OK with it. Biden has to go. 

[The Real timschochet 6,587]

Some people keep arguing that Dems should keep Biden because remember what happened in 1968. But 1968 had two elements that don’t exist today: 

1. Robert Kennedy was seen as the heir to his brother, and LBJ hated him. So there was a personal bitterness between the Kennedy folks and Humphrey, LBJ’s chosen successor. If RFK hadn’t been murdered he would have become President in all likelihood. 

2. Students and leftists wanted an alternative to Humphrey because of the Vietnam War. This was a much bigger deal than the Hamas war because American youth were directly involved and being drafted. At first, the left went with Eugene McCarthy, but he had no real chance. Then they switched to RFK. After RFK was killed there was no chance of anyone but Humphrey so the left went crazy and rioted at the Convention. None of that is going to happen. 
 

So I don’t see the same level of chaos if Biden quits; I think the party unites behind Kamala very quickly and hopes for the best. 

[Bill E. 703]

29 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Sure. But I doubt anyone was satisfied. 
 

Here’s the thing: the only way the Democrat, whoever it is, wins this election is if the focus is on Trump. And the result of the debate is that, if Biden stays in, the focus will not be on Trump. Thats why he’s got to quit. It’s unfair IMO, it’s nobody’s fault. But because of that debate Biden probably cant  win. Not saying Kamala or somebody else will do better but we’ve got to try. Otherwise we’re just throwing this election away to satisfy Biden’s ego. If it were a normal Republican running I’d be OK with that. But I truly believe that Donald Trump is an existential threat to America (I know you disagree) and so I’m not OK with it. Biden has to go. 

Maybe it is the fault of the people that knew this all along but put him there anyhow. 

[The Real timschochet 6,587]

Just now, Bill E. said:

Maybe it is the fault of the people that knew this all along but put him there anyhow. 

I don’t think anything was deliberate. 

[Bill E. 703]

15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t think anything was deliberate. 

KJP said something like Biden could run circles around her.  Harris talked about how alert and in command he was.  Other staff and leaders said similar things. We have seen so many videos way before the debate of him stumbling around.  He said he was not supposed to answer questions.  Most of his questions were answered standing next to a helicopter to muffle his voice.  They had staffers walk next to him to keep people from seeing how he stumbled.  They changed his shoes and stairs so he would trip less.  CNN and other news outlets would not cover these instances. 

They knew.  The voters knew. Now his voters deserve to get what they asked for imo. 

[Voltaire 5,280]

Stephanopoulos was the voice of every Democrat that wants Biden to resign, He threw everything he had at Biden, pleading to get him to see the light. Biden deflected everything and held firm. He was soft spoken but kept his composure genuinely in control of his wits and emotions. He spoke in complete sentences. 

He didn't look like the daft bumbling idiot easily pushed around and bullied that I thought he was. He's not the guy taking his marching orders from the Easter Bunny. The man might have enough stubbornness, grit, and determination to see this thing through and I never thought he had it in him. Strength of character.... these are not words I would have written about him a week ago.

He's been a lousy president and I want him replaced, but there are admirable traits to this guy that I didn't notice until I started rooting for him. He is going to be much more difficult to extract than I initially thought. I really do get the feeling that he won't allow himself to be harassed into resigning. Now denials, mean nothing. Nick Saban swore up and down, and assured us in no uncertain terms, and wanted us to be fully clear that there was no way he was going to leave Michigan State...until three seconds before he left Michigan State for LSU. Then the focker went and did the exact same thing twice more when he left both LSU and Miami. So, I've seen how flimsy and easily reversible a denial is. Biden sure is making all the right noises, but he has to firmly deny things even if he doesn't mean it.

 

[The Real timschochet 6,587]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

Stephanopoulos was the voice of every Democrat that wants Biden to resign, He threw everything he had at Biden, pleading to get him to see the light. Biden deflected everything and held firm. He was soft spoken but kept his composure genuinely in control of his wits and emotions. He spoke in complete sentences. 

He didn't look like the daft bumbling idiot easily pushed around and bullied that I thought he was. He's not the guy taking his marching orders from the Easter Bunny. The man might have enough stubbornness, grit, and determination to see this thing through and I never thought he had it in him. Strength of character.... these are not words I would have written about him a week ago.

He's been a lousy president and I want him replaced, but there are admirable traits to this guy that I didn't notice until I started rooting for him. He is going to be much more difficult to extract than I initially thought. I really do get the feeling that he won't allow himself to be harassed into resigning. Now denials, mean nothing. Nick Saban swore up and down, and assured us in no uncertain terms, and wanted us to be fully clear that there was no way he was going to leave Michigan State...until three seconds before he left Michigan State for LSU. Then the focker went and did the exact same thing twice more when he left both LSU and Miami. So, I've seen how flimsy and easily reversible a denial is. Biden sure is making all the right noises, but he has to firmly deny things even if he doesn't mean it.

 

It’s all about the polls and the money. If the polls stay where they are, the money dries up, and he’s gone. 

[The Real timschochet 6,587]

1 hour ago, Bill E. said:

KJP said something like Biden could run circles around her.  Harris talked about how alert and in command he was.  Other staff and leaders said similar things. We have seen so many videos way before the debate of him stumbling around.  He said he was not supposed to answer questions.  Most of his questions were answered standing next to a helicopter to muffle his voice.  They had staffers walk next to him to keep people from seeing how he stumbled.  They changed his shoes and stairs so he would trip less.  CNN and other news outlets would not cover these instances. 

They knew.  The voters knew. Now his voters deserve to get what they asked for imo. 

I don’t think your analysis is right but even if you are, elections are not supposed to be about people getting “what they deserve”, or “retribution” or “sticking it to the libs” or any of the crap conservatives seem to be into these days. They should be about what’s best for the country. If you truly believe that’s Trump then fine, vote for him. But don’t do it to punish anyone. That’s just crappy. 

[Bill E. 703]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s all about the polls and the money. If the polls stay where they are, the money dries up, and he’s gone. 

Let's say the polls go down to zero. And he has to stop running ads because he has no more money. Doesn't he still have to agree to step aside? I ask this because I'm not sure how it works. I'm hearing how he has the delegates to get the nomination.

It seems once he is the official nominees that money will come back because the Liberals will not want Trump under any circumstances.

[Bill E. 703]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t think your analysis is right but even if you are, elections are not supposed to be about people getting “what they deserve”, or “retribution” or “sticking it to the libs” or any of the crap conservatives seem to be into these days. They should be about what’s best for the country. If you truly believe that’s Trump then fine, vote for him. But don’t do it to punish anyone. That’s just crappy. 

Where did I say anything about Trump? I'm not voting for him to punish anyone.  And the primary elections are pretty much over. You guys voted for flawed candidate and he won. If it's about giving the people what they want or what they voted for then you've got it.

[The Real timschochet 6,587]

2 minutes ago, Bill E. said:

Let's say the polls go down to zero. And he has to stop running ads because he has no more money. Doesn't he still have to agree to step aside? I ask this because I'm not sure how it works. I'm hearing how he has the delegates to get the nomination.

It seems once he is the official nominees that money will come back because the Liberals will not want Trump under any circumstances.

I have no idea. The pressure is building and I’m assuming Biden will eventually succumb to it. If he doesn’t, who knows? It’s never happened before. 

[The Real timschochet 6,587]

3 minutes ago, Bill E. said:

Where did I say anything about Trump?  

Well you don’t really have to. If Biden refuses to quit, and the Democrats “get what they deserve,” then Trump will be our next President. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,795]

5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I just watched the interview. Biden was stubborn, detached from reality, filled with hubris, incredibly arrogant (he keeps saying he is the ONLY ONE who can defeat Trump.) 

I am writing this as somebody who, unlike most in this forum, actually likes Joe Biden. I approve of his policies and think he’s done a very fine job as President. But we are watching a Shakespearean tragedy played out in real time. Like MacBeth, like Muhammad Ali at the end of his career. He doesn’t want to leave the stage. And the consequences are very great. 

It was Mick Jagger who wrote over 50 years ago “what a drag it is getting old”. Mick is currently on tour…

So basically you looked at Biden objectively for the first time in your life.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,230]

Democrats can’t deal with the fact that things were better under Trump. He was simply better at the job. 

[Engorgeous George 2,271]

The man is doing the goodest job he can.  If the Lord Almighty did not want him to run he would have come down by now to have an intervention with Biden.

[CaptainObvious1 368]

3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Sure. But I doubt anyone was satisfied. 
 

Here’s the thing: the only way the Democrat, whoever it is, wins this election is if the focus is on Trump. And the result of the debate is that, if Biden stays in, the focus will not be on Trump. Thats why he’s got to quit. It’s unfair IMO, it’s nobody’s fault. But because of that debate Biden probably cant  win. Not saying Kamala or somebody else will do better but we’ve got to try. Otherwise we’re just throwing this election away to satisfy Biden’s ego. If it were a normal Republican running I’d be OK with that. But I truly believe that Donald Trump is an existential threat to America (I know you disagree) and so I’m not OK with it. Biden has to go. 

You focus on Trump because you know your policies suck 

[CaptainObvious1 368]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I have no idea. The pressure is building and I’m assuming Biden will eventually succumb to it. If he doesn’t, who knows? It’s never happened before. 

Sounds like an insurrection in the democrat party is Coming. 

[Engorgeous George 2,271]

10 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

The man is doing the goodest job he can.  If the Lord Almighty did not want him to run he would have come down by now to have an intervention with Biden.

It was like he was channeling George W. Bush.  

[The Real timschochet 6,587]

36 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Democrats can’t deal with the fact that things were better under Trump. He was simply better at the job. 

I can’t deal with it because it’s not true. Economically, socially, foreign policy wise- Trump was worse in every way. It’s not even particularly close. 

[The Real timschochet 6,587]

10 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

You focus on Trump because you know your policies suck 

I can’t think of a liberal policy that is inferior to current conservative ideas. Seriously I can’t. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,230]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I can’t deal with it because it’s not true. Economically, socially, foreign policy wise- Trump was worse in every way. It’s not even particularly close. 

What is better about our economy under Biden? 

[CaptainObvious1 368]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

I can’t think of a liberal policy that is inferior to current conservative ideas. Seriously I can’t. 

Agree that you can’t think. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

4 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Also props to George Stephanopolis for asking difficult, deeply probing questions and presenting hard truths for Biden to deal with. It was almost hostile, similar to how the press treats Trump. He didn't hold back, those questions and follow ups were at the core of what Dems want to hear answered.

He did a good job.  Had to.  Was respectful but still tough.  But no - nothing like how he would have treated Trump.  There were instances last night where he let a few things go after Biden deflected.  But overall,  he did the job he had to do.

[Engorgeous George 2,271]

13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I can’t think of a liberal policy that is inferior to current conservative ideas. Seriously I can’t. 

Teaching entire generations they are not responsible for their contracted debt.

Allowing, even facilitating, dangerous, violent criminals from violent societies to enter and roam our country unmonitored and unchecked.

Interferring with market forces in the transportation industry and then not accomodating the changes with promised infrastructure such as charging stations for EV's

Disincentivizing achievement by emphasizing so called equity.

 

BTW, I have no idea what current conservative ideas are.  At one time they pretended to stand for fiscal responsibility but that charade has been laid bare.