January 6th

[Dozer FBG 324]

10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No, it’s not. So you can stop saying it. 

You’re right. It is a lesser counterpart to treason.

Seditious conspiracy is a crime in various jurisdictions of conspiring against the authority or legitimacy of the state. As a form of sedition, it has been described as a serious but lesser counterpart to treason, targeting activities that undermine the state without directly attacking it.
 

Wiki

[jonmx 2,424]

51 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

This is a childlike fantasy. I wish you could come out of the fog…

There are over 1,100 J6 related cases in our federal court system.

Trump world has hundreds of pending cases defending countless felonies…

Team Crazy (Gulliani, Ellis, Sydney Powell, et. al) filed 64 lawsuits claiming voter fraud between Election Day and J6… lost em all.

So… you might say that there has been ample opportunity to prove all this deep state corruption.

Tell it to a judge, not a fantasy football message board.

It’s not that the deep state, which I guess includes tens of thousands of people who work in our court system, is holding you down. It’s the fact that what you believe is not true.

Not a single word you say denies that Jan. 6th was a false flag event set up by the FBI.  And yes the DC circuit has become nothing but a rubber stamp for the corrupt FBI.  

[jonmx 2,424]

2 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

You’re right. It is a lesser counterpart to treason.

Seditious conspiracy is a crime in various jurisdictions of conspiring against the authority or legitimacy of the state. As a form of sedition, it has been described as a serious but lesser counterpart to treason, targeting activities that undermine the state without directly attacking it.
 

Wiki

The treasonous bastards are running the FBI.  

[Dozer FBG 324]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Treason entails another country.  I have already schooled you on this in the past. Sad. 

Interesting.
 

So… if an American citizen tried to aid another country… one of our adversaries…

by say… giving them our gathered intelligence or military secrets…

Thats treason, right?

[jonmx 2,424]

3 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

Interesting.
 

So… if an American citizen tried to aid another country… one of our adversaries…

by say… giving them our gathered intelligence or military secrets…

Thats treason, right?

Which country exactly did they try to aid?  

We do have the Bidens aiding Chinese, Russian and Ukraine interest while personally taking millions of dollars from them .

 

[Dozer FBG 324]

1 minute ago, jonmx said:

Which country exactly did they try to aid?  

 

A hypothetical adversarial one.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Treason entails another country.  I have already schooled you on this in the past. Sad. 

Tell it to Merriam-Webster

[jonmx 2,424]

Just now, Dozer FBG said:

A hypothetical adversarial one.

So its your imagination.   Understood. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

3 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

Interesting.
 

So… if an American citizen tried to aid another country… one of our adversaries…

by say… giving them our gathered intelligence or military secrets…

Thats treason, right?

Yeah, biden should be strung up for selling secrets to china and comprimising the US. Correct. Good call. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

8 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Not a single word you say denies that Jan. 6th was a false flag event set up by the FBI.  And yes the DC circuit has become nothing but a rubber stamp for the corrupt FBI.  

You are not well  

[seafoam1 2,799]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

You are not well  

You are a crack pipe smoking idiot. EVERYTHING you say is undeniably wrong. 

[jonmx 2,424]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

You are not well  

 

This country is not well and it is bootlickers like you who cheerlead the authoertian bastards which is allowing it to happen. 

[Dozer FBG 324]

8 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Not a single word you say denies that Jan. 6th was a false flag event set up by the FBI.  And yes the DC circuit has become nothing but a rubber stamp for the corrupt FBI.  

So, the guys dressed in tactical gear that got in formation with one hand on the shoulder of the person in front of them marched up the steps…

and the guys spraying cops in the face with bear spray…

the guy who took a dump in the hallway of the Capitol…

Are these guys deep state? Or did they fall victim to the deep state…

[jonmx 2,424]

2 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

So, the guys dressed in tactical gear that got in formation with one hand on the shoulder of the person in front of them marched up the steps…

and the guys spraying cops in the face with bear spray…

the guy who took a dump in the hallway of the Capitol…

Are these guys deep state? Or did they fall victim to the deep state…

The guy who sprayed bear spray should be charged with assault.  

Dressing up and vandalism are not serious crimes and would not even be mentioned if they were libtards doing more serious crimes like burning down buildings and looting stores....fuk your two-tiered system of justice. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

1 minute ago, Dozer FBG said:

So, the guys dressed in tactical gear that got in formation with one hand on the shoulder of the person in front of them marched up the steps…

and the guys spraying cops in the face with bear spray…

the guy who took a dump in the hallway of the Capitol…

Are these guys deep state? Or did they fall victim to the deep state…

A hagard the horrible viking hat is now tactical gear. 

[Dozer FBG 324]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

The guy who sprayed bear spray should be charged with assault.  

Dressing up and vandalism are not serious crimes and would not even be mentioned if they were libtards doing more serious crimes like burning down buildings and looting stores....fuk your two-tiered system of justice. 

Ah… putting on a helmet and bulletproof vest and locking arms to “vandalize” the Capitol of the United States of America is not a serious crime.

I think I’ve found our disconnect…

[jonmx 2,424]

10 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

Ah… putting on a helmet and bulletproof vest and locking arms to “vandalize” the Capitol of the United States of America is not a serious crime.

I think I’ve found our disconnect…

Helmets and bulletproof vest are protective devices which were needed against cowardly police who shot unarmed citizens like Ashli Babbit.  F-U and your selective outrage over vandalism.  Two billion in vandalism from BLM protestors went virtually unpunished.  That is 2000 times more vandalism than what took place on Jan 6th. 

[The Real timschochet 6,416]

3 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Helmets and bulletproof vest are protective devices which were needed against cowardly police who shot unarmed citizens like Ashli Babbit.  F-U and your selective outrage over vandalism.  Two billion in vandalism from BLM protestors went virtually unpunished.  That is 2000 times more vandalism than what took place on Jan 6th. 

No BLM protesters went unpunished because they didn’t do anything wrong. Thugs unrelated to BLM rioted, and any caught deserved to go to jail. But attacking the Capitol is far worse and not really comparable. So FU and YOUR selective outrage in which you defend everyone white and attack everyone black. 

[The Real timschochet 6,416]

So sick of people like jon defending Jan. 6. It’s a good thing our justice system is finally seeing through this crap. White supremacists are not victims. Fock them all and anyone who supports or defends them. You want to attack our system of government? To prison you go. 

[jonmx 2,424]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No BLM protesters went unpunished because they didn’t do anything wrong. Thugs unrelated to BLM rioted, and any caught deserved to go to jail. But attacking the Capitol is far worse and not really comparable. So FU and YOUR selective outrage in which you defend everyone white and attack everyone black. 

Can anyone really be that stupid to swallow up thst line of crap?

[The Real timschochet 6,416]

Just now, jonmx said:

Can anyone really be that stupid to swallow up thst line of crap?

I ask this question every time I read one of your posts. But the answer is, sadly yes. 

[jonmx 2,424]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I ask this question every time I read one of your posts. But the answer is, sadly yes. 

You the one who faithfully believes every piece of propaganda your government media spews.  I follow no one.    

[The Real timschochet 6,416]

Just now, jonmx said:

You the one who faithfully believes every piece of propaganda your government media spews.  I follow no one.    

Yet close to 100% of your arguments mirror those of extreme right wing websites. You don’t trust my news sources and I sure as hell don’t trust yours. Which is indeed a problem in our society, perhaps the biggest one we currently face. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,932]

You have to keep in mind with people like real Tim just how warped they are. They demand that a child’s privacy be protected from their parents. 

[jonmx 2,424]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

You have to keep in mind with people like real Tim just how warped they are. They demand that a child’s privacy be protected from their parents. 

He believes that public servants have free speech rights but not citizens.  This new love of the authoritarian state by Democrats is very disturbing. 

[jonmx 2,424]

12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yet close to 100% of your arguments mirror those of extreme right wing websites. You don’t trust my news sources and I sure as hell don’t trust yours. Which is indeed a problem in our society, perhaps the biggest one we currently face. 

Actually my position of the structural failures which exists in the ever expanding executive branch which lacks any real check of their power and has allowed them to usurp the Constitution is pretty much all mine.  I would challenge you to find that thesis anywhere on the net. 

I can find everyone of your positions in the New York Times or CNN.

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yet close to 100% of your arguments mirror those of extreme right wing websites. You don’t trust my news sources and I sure as hell don’t trust yours. Which is indeed a problem in our society, perhaps the biggest one we currently face. 

I agree with this because I come from a place of generating non-biased news. No opinions. No speculation or extrapolation. Just facts.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,932]

Mohamed Shei of Rochester NY was given 180 days in jail for raping two girls, aged 4 and 9. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

On 9/2/2023 at 9:48 AM, jonmx said:

Not a single word you say denies that Jan. 6th was a false flag event set up by the FBI.  

[seafoam1 2,799]

15 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

I agree with this because I come from a place of generating non-biased news. No opinions. No speculation or extrapolation. Just facts.

[jonmx 2,424]

17 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

I agree with this because I come from a place of generating non-biased news. No opinions. No speculation or extrapolation. Just facts.

You are spoon-feed pure government propaganda and somehow are ignorant enought to believe it is non-biased news.  Ridiculus

[jonmx 2,424]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Mohamed Shei of Rochester NY was given 180 days in jail for raping two girls, aged 4 and 9. 

Lucky he only raped young girls.  Had he stole a stapler off her heinous Nancy Peolosi's desk, he would be looking at the electric chair.  

[squistion 1,949]

9 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You are spoon-feed pure government propaganda and somehow are ignorant enought to believe it is non-biased news.  Ridiculus

Oh, the irony. 

[jonmx 2,424]

7 minutes ago, squistion said:

Oh, the irony. 

Oh the utter stupidity.  

 

[The Real timschochet 6,416]

18 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You are spoon-feed pure government propaganda 

You have written this numerous times and offered CNN and the New York Times as examples. Yet two of the main reasons why Trump won in 2016 was because of the New York Times’ reporting about Hillary Clinton’s emails, and CNN’s relentless interviews and exposure of Donald Trump. Please explain what appears to be two rather large contradictions to your ridiculous amd false assertion. 

[jonmx 2,424]

26 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You have written this numerous times and offered CNN and the New York Times as examples. Yet two of the main reasons why Trump won in 2016 was because of the New York Times’ reporting about Hillary Clinton’s emails, and CNN’s relentless interviews and exposure of Donald Trump. Please explain what appears to be two rather large contradictions to your ridiculous amd false assertion. 

Yes, the government news organizations were convinced Hillary had it wrapped up and could be somewhat honest.  They learned their lesson and were in full propaganda mode in 2020 and took no chances with the Hunter laptop story which represented the largest supression of a story to influence an election ever.  And it was not just supression of the story, the media and our government intelligence agencies were providing completely false information about it was somehow Russian propaganda, when they had the laptop for many months and knew it was real..  The media told boldface lies so Biden would win.  The government-corporate mainstream media has become more and more unison and more and more transparent in their utter biased towards a big powerful establishment power.  

[RLLD 4,143]

50 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You have written this numerous times and offered CNN and the New York Times as examples. Yet two of the main reasons why Trump won in 2016 was because of the New York Times’ reporting about Hillary Clinton’s emails, and CNN’s relentless interviews and exposure of Donald Trump. Please explain what appears to be two rather large contradictions to your ridiculous amd false assertion. 

There is merit to these assertions.

CNN et al set out initially to denigrate Trump, satisfied in the belief that they would tell people what to think and the people would simply fall in line and comply.  They methodically worked every angle to impugne Trump, believing that they would certainly be able to hit him and ruin him.  Then they saw the ratings bonanza and saw a win-win, and the polling suggested they had done their job.

When it all went south, the media outlets were hit almost as hard as Hillary....they were beside themselves.  How could they have failed to install the Democrat candidate? How did they fail to manipulate people, after all they beleived themselves to have all the power of control.....

But they were still drunk on the ratings, so they pushed on to denigrate Trump at every turn....

So many of the things that they apparently cared about so deeply with regard to Trump were suddenly no longer worth mentioning when Biden did it.....   they had their guy, but without Trump....lost the ratings....people slowly realizing they were lied to meant a dillution of viewers.

[The Real timschochet 6,416]

32 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Yes, the government news organizations were convinced Hillary had it wrapped up and could be somewhat honest.  They learned their lesson and were in full propaganda mode in 2020 and took no chances with the Hunter laptop story which represented the largest supression of a story to influence an election ever.  And it was not just supression of the story, the media and our government intelligence agencies were providing completely false information about it was somehow Russian propaganda, when they had the laptop for many months and knew it was real..  The media told boldface lies so Biden would win.  The government-corporate mainstream media has become more and more unison and more and more transparent in their utter biased towards a big powerful establishment power.  

How is it that I knew all about the Hunter Biden story? It was all over CNN and MSNBC. Plus Trump mentioned it at least a dozen times during the two debates. 
 

The truth is nothing was hidden or concealed. The Hunter laptop story was out there and nobody gave a damn. 

[The Real timschochet 6,416]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

There is merit to these assertions.

CNN et al set out initially to denigrate Trump, satisfied in the belief that they would tell people what to think and the people would simply fall in line and comply.  They methodically worked every angle to impugne Trump, believing that they would certainly be able to hit him and ruin him.  Then they saw the ratings bonanza and saw a win-win, and the polling suggested they had done their job.

When it all went south, the media outlets were hit almost as hard as Hillary....they were beside themselves.  How could they have failed to install the Democrat candidate? How did they fail to manipulate people, after all they beleived themselves to have all the power of control.....

But they were still drunk on the ratings, so they pushed on to denigrate Trump at every turn....

So many of the things that they apparently cared about so deeply with regard to Trump were suddenly no longer worth mentioning when Biden did it.....   they had their guy, but without Trump....lost the ratings....people slowly realizing they were lied to meant a dillution of viewers.

Look at yourself. You’re trying to wrap yourself into a pretzel coming up with reasons for the media. The only time you came close is when you wrote “they were drunk on the ratings”. 

Are individual members of the mainstream media liberal? Sure, most of them probably. Are they rooting for liberals to win elections? Probably most of the time. Are their bosses liberal? Most of the time no, because the ownership is corporate and typically prefer traditional Republican policies. Is the news manipulated to push a pro-government or pro-liberal POV? NO. No matter how much you guys protest it doesn’t happen. What happens is that the news reports whatever is going to get the most eyeballs, period, full stop. There is no other motivation at play. And, the usual caveat- I am not talking about opinion shows so don’t waste time offering them as examples of bias. 

[The Real timschochet 6,416]

10 minutes ago, RLLD said:

There is merit to these assertions.

CNN et al set out initially to denigrate Trump, satisfied in the belief that they would tell people what to think and the people would simply fall in line and comply.  They methodically worked every angle to impugne Trump, believing that they would certainly be able to hit him and ruin him.  Then they saw the ratings bonanza and saw a win-win, and the polling suggested they had done their job.

When it all went south, the media outlets were hit almost as hard as Hillary....they were beside themselves.  How could they have failed to install the Democrat candidate? How did they fail to manipulate people, after all they beleived themselves to have all the power of control.....

But they were still drunk on the ratings, so they pushed on to denigrate Trump at every turn....

So many of the things that they apparently cared about so deeply with regard to Trump were suddenly no longer worth mentioning when Biden did it.....   they had their guy, but without Trump....lost the ratings....people slowly realizing they were lied to meant a dillution of viewers.

Also “trying to impugn Trump” is a false representation of what CNN did in 2015 and 2016. What they did is have him on as a guest at every opportunity and play whatever he had to say WITHOUT CHALLENGE. In addition they would play his campaign rally speeches live and in full, something they have never done for any other Presidential candidate before or since. They did this because they saw that it brought high ratings- no other reason. 

Impugn him? They made him into a political celebrity.