Stock Market bubble - will crash

[Hardcore troubadour 14,992]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

 

That’s why these clowns love an alias 

[RLLD 4,154]

I would not be too rosy on the market.  It goes up, it goes down, and there are many factors involved.  The market is NOT a measure of economic strength, and I really dont think we should tout it so much.

[Ron_Artest 1,112]

5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

 

That's not me you idiot.  I never touched my 401k

[Hardcore troubadour 14,992]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

That's not me you idiot.  I never touched my 401k

Sad.  Really sad. 

[seafoam1 2,819]

22 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Actually I was right on this one.  Tariffs go on, market goes down, tariffs come off, market goes up.

 

On 4/4/2025 at 5:57 PM, The Psychic Observer said:

I already went all cash in my 401k.

[WhiteWonder 2,685]

2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Orange man hikes tariffs, market tanks

Orange man removes tariffs, market up

It's almost like orange man is bad huh?

It’s almost like you don’t understand tariffs as a negotiation tool

its almost like you don’t remember your lord and savior Nancy Pelosi discussing reciprocal tariffs in the 90s. 

Almost like you were not up in arms when Biden/harris left the original Trump tariffs on China

 

are you the guy with the finance minor?

[Reality 3,117]

9 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

 

Everybody here knows gutter is a pathological liar. 

[MDC 7,166]

29 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

It’s almost like you don’t understand tariffs as a negotiation tool

I thought the goal was to boost manufacturing?  

Father Trump works in mysterious ways! 

[seafoam1 2,819]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

I thought the goal was to boost manufacturing?  

Father Trump works in mysterious ways! 

Dang. You get dumber by the second. 

[RLLD 4,154]

41 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

It’s almost like you don’t understand tariffs as a negotiation tool

its almost like you don’t remember your lord and savior Nancy Pelosi discussing reciprocal tariffs in the 90s. 

Almost like you were not up in arms when Biden/harris left the original Trump tariffs on China

 

are you the guy with the finance minor?

Apparently when Democrats used tariffs, deported illegals and put them in detention facilities etc......that was all just fine, but now that Republicans are doing the same thing.....its bad.....

Liberals are developmentally in the realm of a toddler making sense of their world

[Ron_Artest 1,112]

55 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

It’s almost like you don’t understand tariffs as a negotiation tool

its almost like you don’t remember your lord and savior Nancy Pelosi discussing reciprocal tariffs in the 90s. 

Almost like you were not up in arms when Biden/harris left the original Trump tariffs on China

 

are you the guy with the finance minor?

Oh they're a negotiation tool?  I thought they were to bring jobs back?  I thought it was to raise revenue?  I thought it was to balance out trade?

So what did we gain as part of this "negotation"?  What did all these countries agree to do that caused us to lower the tariffs that we increased?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,992]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Oh they're a negotiation tool?  I thought they were to bring jobs back?  I thought it was to raise revenue?  I thought it was to balance out trade?

So what did we gain as part of this "negotation"?  What did all these countries agree to do that caused us to lower the tariffs that we increased?

Why have you stopped your daily stock market updates? 

[Horseman 2,390]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

So what did we gain as part of this "negotation"?  

Well, currently we're getting a 30% tariff to China's 10%.  I suspect the agreement will eventually be reciprocal at 10% which has always been the goal.  You bump your tiny head or something?  

[Horseman 2,390]

4 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

That's not me you idiot.  I never touched my 401k

On 5/2/2025 at 4:19 PM, Ron_Artest said:

This is your last chance to get out before it's too late.

 

[Ron_Artest 1,112]

23 minutes ago, Horseman said:

 

Was before Trump caved.  We're still not looking so hot but he should completely roll over at this point.

[Ron_Artest 1,112]

30 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why have you stopped your daily stock market updates? 

Never gave daily updates, lie again.

When there is something to talk about I'll post about it.

[Reality 3,117]

9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Was before Trump caved.  We're still not looking so hot but he should completely roll over at this point.

Pathetic, liar.

[Ron_Artest 1,112]

Just now, Reality said:

Pathetic, liar.

What am I lying about?

[Reality 3,117]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

What am I lying about?

 scroll up dipsh|t.

[Ron_Artest 1,112]

1 minute ago, Reality said:

 scroll up dipsh|t.

So you can't tell me.  Typical troll.

[Ron_Artest 1,112]

42 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Well, currently we're getting a 30% tariff to China's 10%.  I suspect the agreement will eventually be reciprocal at 10% which has always been the goal.  You bump your tiny head or something?  

The tariff rate difference between the US and China was .4% before Trump took office.  If the goal was to get them the same they pretty much were.  We're doing all this for .4%?

What happened to jobs?  Increased revenue?  Trade deficit?

[MDC 7,166]

10 minutes ago, Reality said:

Pathetic

You forgot “by your usually low standards.”

[WhiteWonder 2,685]

4 hours ago, MDC said:

I thought the goal was to boost manufacturing?  

Father Trump works in mysterious ways! 

I have always thought the tariffs were a negotiating tactic first and foremost. However, any permanent raise in tariffs can also be seen as a good thing for manufacturing and job creation. China, for example, has large tariffs on US imports and they really do nothing to help create jobs here. On the other hand, the amount of goods we import from China, helps create loads of jobs over there. 

[WhiteWonder 2,685]

5 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Actually I was right on this one.  Tariffs go on, market goes down, tariffs come off, market goes up.

This is not rocket science. Sorry if anyone was telling you otherwise but I think most people... with a minor in finance or not... would have told you that tariffs and a trade war would drop the market in the short term with the hope being that we start to balance trade  (which can include getting other countries to lower their tariffs on us, and/or getting more of the things we import produced here at home)  and it winds up being good for the market in the long run.

[Ron_Artest 1,112]

9 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

This is not rocket science. Sorry if anyone was telling you otherwise but I think most people... with a minor in finance or not... would have told you that tariffs and a trade war would drop the market in the short term with the hope being that we start to balance trade  (which can include getting other countries to lower their tariffs on us, and/or getting more of the things we import produced here at home)  and it winds up being good for the market in the long run.

Well your president didn't think so, and only caved on his tariffs because they almost broke the bond market, and then it took every CEO in the country yelling at him about empty shelves before he caved with China.  This was not negotiation it was capitulation.  Smart people know.  Sorry you're not included.

[WhiteWonder 2,685]

4 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Oh they're a negotiation tool?  I thought they were to bring jobs back?  I thought it was to raise revenue?  I thought it was to balance out trade?

So what did we gain as part of this "negotation"?  What did all these countries agree to do that caused us to lower the tariffs that we increased?

Yes. the threat of tariffs is very often a negotiation tool. They can also bring jobs back if they force us to be less reliant on foreign imports. They are also aimed to balance out trade... which is part of the negotiation .  How can you be so obtuse when it comes to this topic.... I mean, aside from the trump hate blinders you have on. 

republicans and democrats have historically pointed to the trade imbalance with China specifically and the amount of stuff they manufacture and dump into the western markets. Someone is finally taking action, and you're just pissed off because it's Trump.

[Ron_Artest 1,112]

30 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

Yes. the threat of tariffs is very often a negotiation tool. They can also bring jobs back if they force us to be less reliant on foreign imports. They are also aimed to balance out trade... which is part of the negotiation .  How can you be so obtuse when it comes to this topic.... I mean, aside from the trump hate blinders you have on. 

republicans and democrats have historically pointed to the trade imbalance with China specifically and the amount of stuff they manufacture and dump into the western markets. Someone is finally taking action, and you're just pissed off because it's Trump.

Not obtuse, I understand all of this, it's just that none of this happened   He put the tariffs on, panicked, and took them off.  No trade rebalance, no jobs brought back, nothing.  Are you honest enough to admit that?

I'm fine with reworking trade deals.  I just think someone smart should do it.  Trump is in way over his head and has no plan.

[nobody 2,580]

I think gutterboy googled the correct opinion this time.  Trump tried tariffs for I'm sure a variety of reasons thought out in his typical shallow manor and capitulated.

[Horseman 2,390]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

What am I lying about?

One of these is not true:

1 - You didn't touch your 401k. 

2 - You believed you had to get out before it's too late.  

[Ron_Artest 1,112]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

One of these is not true:

1 - You didn't touch your 401k. 

2 - You believed you had to get out before it's too late.  

1. I didn't touch my 401k

2. I did sell some high beta funds prior to liberation day and then again before Trump caved to China to get some cash that I know I will need to pay for college this year.  He caved and the market went up anyway so no big deal.  If he didn't cave then we probably would have seen some more downside.

[Horseman 2,390]

9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

1. I didn't touch my 401k

2. I did sell some high beta funds prior to liberation day and then again before Trump caved to China to get some cash that I know I will need to pay for college this year.  He caved and the market went up anyway so no big deal.  If he didn't cave then we probably would have seen some more downside.

Your pants are on fire. 

Selling some funds for money you need this year isn't the same thing as blanket posting telling everyone to get out before it's too late.  JFC. 

[Ron_Artest 1,112]

9 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Your pants are on fire. 

Selling some funds for money you need this year isn't the same thing as blanket posting telling everyone to get out before it's too late.  JFC. 

If Trump didn't cave I believe we would have been headed much lower.  My 401k is not being touched for 10 years so I didn't need to touch that.  You're gonna have to try harder dummy.

[Horseman 2,390]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

If Trump didn't cave I believe we would have been headed much lower.  My 401k is not being touched for 10 years so I didn't need to touch that.  You're gonna have to try harder dummy.

LAST CHANCE TO GET OUT BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!!!!!!!

What a foking loser.  

[Ron_Artest 1,112]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

LAST CHANCE TO GET OUT BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!!!!!!!

What a foking loser.  

How much higher are we by year end?

[thegeneral 2,989]

Getting back to even after the shitshow that dummy started isn’t exactly reason to pop the bubbly.

[Ron_Artest 1,112]

9 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Getting back to even after the shitshow that dummy started isn’t exactly reason to pop the bubbly.

We're in a worse economic situation now than before he started all this, but it's a meme market so no telling where it will go.  He could wake up tomorrow and decide 500% tariffs on every country and no one would be shocked.

[Horseman 2,390]

2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

How much higher are we by year end?

Look. Hopefully nobody is dumb enough to listen to anything you say.  But in a stock thread you should post what you really mean, like what is quoted below. Instead of a blanket "GET OUT BRFORE ITS TOO LATE!"  That's probably a big ask considering your lack of communication skills and your reading comprehension issues.  

2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

If Trump doesn't cave I think we're headed much lower.  My 401k is not being touched for 10 years so I'm not doing anything with that.  But I am selling other funds now to free up cash that I need this year just in case.  

It doesn't matter to me when we go higher. Just that it will, like it always does, in the long run.  I'm diversified and positioned to take advantage of any kind of market. I wouldn't mind some more tariff panic selling by the weaklings. A wide swinging market just increases my number of shares that multiplies my gains when we do get higher.  

[Horseman 2,390]

12 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Getting back to even after the shitshow that dummy started isn’t exactly reason to pop the bubbly.

It's not?  Couldn't have been too big of a shitshow then.  

[thegeneral 2,989]

11 minutes ago, Horseman said:

It's not?  Couldn't have been too big of a shitshow then.  

Yep. Because everyone knows is all bullshit now.

As long as dipshit keeps his trap shut hopefully we can just plow straight ahead and up. 

[Horseman 2,390]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Yep. Because everyone knows is all bullshit now.

As long as dipshit keeps his trap shut hopefully we can just plow straight ahead and up. 

Ok then, no big deal. You said shitshow.