Ukraine - Doomsday

[craftsman 1,045]

7 hours ago, Gepetto said:

 

Unlike Biden and American citizens in Afghanistan. Biden just cut and run. Fock the Americans and allies there. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

Mobilization going great for Russia.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-military-range-shooting-leaves-193107841.html

A couple of recruits opened fire during training, killing 11 and wounding 25 before getting killed.

And then there is this:

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Some of the freshly called-up reservists posted videos of themselves being forced to sleep on the floor or even outside and given rusty weapons before being sent to the front lines.

Russian media reports said some of those who were mobilized were sent to combat without receiving proper training and were quickly killed.

Yeah, Russia has the ability to take over the world.

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

Russians resort to 1950s-era anti-aircraft guns.

 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

One of the saddest things I've read yet. Russia is going to waste a generation of young men.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-draft-sends-barely-trained-men-to-war-in-ukraine/ar-AA131zgi?cvid=e1bc14c0cb9943b092358a7323660eca

[craftsman 1,045]

1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said:

One of the saddest things I've read yet. Russia is going to waste a generation of young men.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-draft-sends-barely-trained-men-to-war-in-ukraine/ar-AA131zgi?cvid=e1bc14c0cb9943b092358a7323660eca

GO UKRAINE!!! Rah Rah Rah. Let's have Biden send another $80 billion to Europe to kill people. Woo Hoo!!! 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

45 minutes ago, craftsman said:

GO UKRAINE!!! Rah Rah Rah. Let's have Biden send another $80 billion to Europe to kill people. Woo Hoo!!! 

The Ukraine aid has had bipartisan as well as NATO support. Go jerk off to a "Little People" episode. 

The only whiners are MAGAtards who can't get past Hunter Biden while whitewashing Clownzo's impeachment over his crooked Ukraine dealings.

[craftsman 1,045]

2 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

The Ukraine aid has had bipartisan as well as NATO support. Go jerk off to a "Little People" episode. 

The only whiners are MAGAtards who can't get past Hunter Biden while whitewashing Clownzo's impeachment over his crooked Ukraine dealings.

Oh no!!! I have to believe in "Bipartisan" and Nato supported war!!!

No I don't. Only violent war mongering idiots do.  

So yeah, no. I'm America first. Fix our own problems first. Sorry you little political follower. Keep your European war cheerleading skirt on and let's have a broke America.

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

1 hour ago, craftsman said:

So yeah, no. I'm America first. Fix our own problems first. Sorry you little political follower. Keep your European war cheerleading skirt on and let's have a broke America.

Keeping Russia in check and supporting Ukraine benefits America more than turning a blind eye to a ruthless autocrat taking over the world-dependent breadbasket and fledgling democracy, thus creating regional and worldwide fear and instability as well as potentially deeper economic issues and other problems.

If the far-right belief is that Putin won't stop with Ukraine, what's wrong with drawing the line in Ukraine when we can do it with drones, mid-range missiles and shoulder-held stuff? We are destroying the Russian military without tanks, jets, ships and our best sh!t, much less boots on the ground. This is a war the West must win.

Nationalism and isolationism have a long-ass history of failure in the United States. It didn't work prior to our involvement in the two world wars.

America First started with Woodrow Wilson in regard to World War I, and then the KKK adopted it. Then Trump, which stirred up Antifa, which isn't the threat that the far-right makes it out to be.

When it comes to MAGA, history is repeating itself on so many levels - rhetoric, paranoia, nationalism, civil rights, human rights, voting rights, etc.

We recently visited the Civil Rights Museum in Memphis. It's built around the Lorraine Motel, where MLK was assassinated.

The museum takes you through the history, from slavery to emancipation to everything that followed. The Rosa Parks bus is there, and you can go in it and see where she sat. There is a statue of her there in her seat, as well as a statue of the bus driver telling you to get the fock off the bus. It's unnerving, as is the Selma exhibit. Their churches were burned to the ground, killing people, including children, in them. Read up on what happened to the Black Wall Street in Tulsa in 1921. Unimaginable hate, violence and tragedy.

Then later on the tour you find yourself standing near the spot where MLK was killed, and you can peer into the room where he stayed, the room kept exactly as it was left, albeit with replica food, dishes, etc. lying around. 

The experience was chilling, partly due to the rhetoric angry white racist people used back then being eerily similar to MAGA rhetoric today. We are witnessing angry white nationalism, sprinkled in with some people of color echoing those sentiments for political gain, like hypocrite Herschel Walker.

There would be no talk of civil war in this country if the MAGAtards would turn down the burner on that subject and figure out a way we can all work together. 

My biggest Civil Rights Museum takeaway was a realization of how horrific blacks in this country have had it and to a lesser degree still have it ... and why the anger remains. The summer 2020 peaceful BLM protests make sense, only to be tainted by the actions of thuggish opportunists, which is nothing new. Just study up on the Rodney King and Watts riots. 

Sublime nailed it in this song:

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But if you look at the streets, it wasn't about Rodney King
And this focked up situation and these focked up police

It would be nice to see you come up with a thoughtful, intelligent and mature response to this, which would be a departure from your usual schtick.

Surprise us. 

 

[craftsman 1,045]

5 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Keeping Russia in check and supporting Ukraine benefits America more than turning a blind eye to a ruthless autocrat taking over the world-dependent breadbasket and fledgling democracy, thus creating regional and worldwide fear and instability as well as potentially deeper economic issues and other problems.

If the far-right belief is that Putin won't stop with Ukraine, what's wrong with drawing the line in Ukraine when we can do it with drones, mid-range missiles and shoulder-held stuff? We are destroying the Russian military without tanks, jets, ships and our best sh!t, much less boots on the ground. This is a war the West must win.

Nationalism and isolationism have a long-ass history of failure in the United States. It didn't work prior to our involvement in the two world wars.

America First started with Woodrow Wilson in regard to World War I, and then the KKK adopted it. Then Trump, which stirred up Antifa, which isn't the threat that the far-right makes it out to be.

When it comes to MAGA, history is repeating itself on so many levels - rhetoric, paranoia, nationalism, civil rights, human rights, voting rights, etc.

We recently visited the Civil Rights Museum in Memphis. It's built around the Lorraine Motel, where MLK was assassinated.

The museum takes you through the history, from slavery to emancipation to everything that followed. The Rosa Parks bus is there, and you can go in it and see where she sat. There is a statue of her there in her seat, as well as a statue of the bus driver telling you to get the fock off the bus. It's unnerving, as is the Selma exhibit. Their churches were burned to the ground, killing people, including children, in them.

Then later on the tour you find yourself standing near the spot where MLK was killed, and you can peer into the room where he stayed, the room kept exactly as it was left, albeit with replica food, dishes, etc. lying around. 

The experience was chilling, partly due to the rhetoric angry white racist people used back then being eerily similar to MAGA rhetoric today. We are witnessing angry white nationalism, sprinkled in with some people of color echoing those sentiments for political gain, like hypocrite Herschel Walker.

There would be no talk of civil war in this country if the MAGAtards would turn down the burner on that subject and figure out a way we can all work together. 

My biggest Civil Rights Museum takeaway was a realization of how horrific blacks in this country have had it and to a lesser degree still have it ... and why the anger remains. The summer 2020 peaceful BLM protests make sense, only to be tainted by the actions of thuggish opportunists, which is nothing new. Just study up on the Rodney King and Watts riots. 

Sublime nailed it in this song:

It would be nice to see you come up with a thoughtful, intelligent and mature response to this, which would be a departure from your usual schtick.

Surprise us. 

 

Liberal. Trump!!!! 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

2 minutes ago, craftsman said:

Liberal. Trump!!!! 

You're a waste of time and intelligence. Gave you a chance, boy. Back to ignore mode with you.

 

[craftsman 1,045]

1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

You're a waste of time and intelligence. Gave you a chance, boy. Back to ignore mode with you.

 

You were never worth a chance. It was obvious. You are a complete low IQ liberal. Which is the worst liberal of all. And coincidentally  the most common of all liberals of all time. 

It's just so fun to expose you libtards. 

 

 

[craftsman 1,045]

This ought to stir up some Rusty Ukraine propaganda saying we should keep funding the war in Europe even when Europe is losing interest.

Kyiv rocked by explosions a week after Russian strikes across Ukraine

 

Drone strikes hit Kyiv early Monday morning, damaging a residential building and injuring an unknown number of people amid repeated attacks against the Ukrainian capital from Russia forces over the past week.

Kyiv city mayor Vitaliy Klichko announced that the Shevchenko district was impacted, urging residents to take shelter. Anton Gerashchenko, an advisor to Ukraine's Minister of Internal Affairs, confirmed that a residential building was hit during the attacks, but officials have not released details about casualties.

Klichko reported that several apartment blocks were damaged, in addition to a fire igniting in a non-residential building.

Russian forces have attacked Kyiv consistently with so-called "kamikaze" drones over the past week. The Shahed-136 drones, which are manufactured in Iran, have been used by Russia to target vital energy infrastructure and urban centers.

A recent report by the Institute for the Study of War theorized that Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) troops may have traveled to Russian-held territories to help train Putin's troops. 

The use of Shahed-136 drones ramped up after the Russo-Ukrainian War escalated through Vladimir Putin's annexation of the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions in September. Strikes in central Kyiv were rare occurrences before Putin's illegal annexation, which has been denounced by Western leaders.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,277]

8 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Keeping Russia in check and supporting Ukraine benefits America more than turning a blind eye to a ruthless autocrat taking over the world-dependent breadbasket and fledgling democracy, thus creating regional and worldwide fear and instability as well as potentially deeper economic issues and other problems.

If the far-right belief is that Putin won't stop with Ukraine, what's wrong with drawing the line in Ukraine when we can do it with drones, mid-range missiles and shoulder-held stuff? We are destroying the Russian military without tanks, jets, ships and our best sh!t, much less boots on the ground. This is a war the West must win.

Nationalism and isolationism have a long-ass history of failure in the United States. It didn't work prior to our involvement in the two world wars.

America First started with Woodrow Wilson in regard to World War I, and then the KKK adopted it. Then Trump, which stirred up Antifa, which isn't the threat that the far-right makes it out to be.

When it comes to MAGA, history is repeating itself on so many levels - rhetoric, paranoia, nationalism, civil rights, human rights, voting rights, etc.

We recently visited the Civil Rights Museum in Memphis. It's built around the Lorraine Motel, where MLK was assassinated.

The museum takes you through the history, from slavery to emancipation to everything that followed. The Rosa Parks bus is there, and you can go in it and see where she sat. There is a statue of her there in her seat, as well as a statue of the bus driver telling you to get the fock off the bus. It's unnerving, as is the Selma exhibit. Their churches were burned to the ground, killing people, including children, in them. Read up on what happened to the Black Wall Street in Tulsa in 1921. Unimaginable hate, violence and tragedy.

Then later on the tour you find yourself standing near the spot where MLK was killed, and you can peer into the room where he stayed, the room kept exactly as it was left, albeit with replica food, dishes, etc. lying around. 

The experience was chilling, partly due to the rhetoric angry white racist people used back then being eerily similar to MAGA rhetoric today. We are witnessing angry white nationalism, sprinkled in with some people of color echoing those sentiments for political gain, like hypocrite Herschel Walker.

There would be no talk of civil war in this country if the MAGAtards would turn down the burner on that subject and figure out a way we can all work together. 

My biggest Civil Rights Museum takeaway was a realization of how horrific blacks in this country have had it and to a lesser degree still have it ... and why the anger remains. The summer 2020 peaceful BLM protests make sense, only to be tainted by the actions of thuggish opportunists, which is nothing new. Just study up on the Rodney King and Watts riots. 

Sublime nailed it in this song:

It would be nice to see you come up with a thoughtful, intelligent and mature response to this, which would be a departure from your usual schtick.

Surprise us. 

 

Wait, Pimpadoosh thinks our involvement in ww 1 was a good, necessary thing? Holy spit! This is the guy that claims he knows so much about history and went to big boy college! Too funny. 

[fandandy 3,313]

 Vladimir Putin recently gave a speech in which he said:

“The West is ready to cross every line to preserve the neo-colonial system which allows it to live off the world, to plunder it thanks to the domination of the dollar and technology, to collect an actual tribute from humanity, to extract its primary source of unearned prosperity, the rent paid to the hegemon. The preservation of this annuity is their main, real, and absolutely self-serving motivation. This is why total de-sovereignization is in their interest. This explains their aggression toward independent states, traditional values, and authentic cultures, their attempts to undermine international and integration processes, new global currencies, and technological development centers they cannot control. It is critically important for them to force all countries to surrender their sovereignty to the United States.”

[listen2me 23 1,858]

On 10/16/2022 at 11:17 PM, Pimpadeaux said:

You're a waste of time and intelligence. Gave you a chance, boy. Back to ignore mode with you.

 

You wrote him a 10 paragraph essay of a post with video.  Then he gave you back a generic 2 word response. Lol too much time on your hands.  That was hilarious. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

Drone grenade blows Russian to pieces.

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

On 10/16/2022 at 7:16 PM, Pimpadeaux said:

Russians resort to 1950s-era anti-aircraft guns.

 

What a buffoon you are.  When Ukraine was using them at the beginning, the press lauded them.   

Kharkiv Civil Defense Got 57mm AZP S-60 Anti-Aircraft Gun to Withstand Enemy UAVs and Armored Vehicles | Defense Express (defence-ua.com)

[Hardcore troubadour 15,277]

1 minute ago, TimmySmith said:

What a buffoon you are.  When Ukraine was using them at the beginning, the press lauded them.   

Kharkiv Civil Defense Got 57mm AZP S-60 Anti-Aircraft Gun to Withstand Enemy UAVs and Armored Vehicles | Defense Express (defence-ua.com)

Pimpadoosh thinks ww 1 was a good thing for the US. No one else does, but he does. He will just say anything to back this war. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Pimpadoosh thinks ww 1 was a good thing for the US. No one else does, but he does. He will just say anything to back this war. 

More misinformation from you. When did I ever say World War I was a good thing for the United States?

What I said was that Woodrow Wilson's platform was based on nationalism, America First and staying out of World War I, but that didn't work out as he planned. Somehow you twist these facts into misinformation.

But if you take a deep dive into how we benefitted from that conflict, America emerged as the world's pre-eminent economic and military power.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,277]

10 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

More misinformation from you. When did I ever say World War I was a good thing for the United States?

What I said was that Woodrow Wilson's platform was based on nationalism, America First and staying out of World War I, but that didn't work out as he planned. Somehow you twist these facts into misinformation.

But if you take a deep dive into how we benefitted from that conflict, America emerged as the world's pre-eminent economic and military power.

 

No we didn’t.  That happened after the Second World War. We went into a depression after ww1. And your point is just so dumb. You’re trying to say it was our isolation that got us into that stupid war, that made things worse. Why do you think they call it world war ONE?  Duh. If we stayed isolated we would have been better off. The results say so. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No we didn’t.  That happened after the Second World War. We went into a depression after ww1. And your point is just so dumb. You’re trying to say it was our isolation that got us into that stupid war, that made things worse. Why do you think they call it world war ONE?  Duh. If we stayed isolated we would have been better off. The results say so. 

It always brings me joy to infoslam you when you pop off about something without researching it. Once again you cook up information in your brain and not knowing what you don't know.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/06/world-war-1-centennial-us-history-modern-america#:~:text=In addition%2C the conflict heralded,military power in the world.

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It accelerated income tax and urbanisation and helped make America the pre-eminent economic and military power in the world.

The Great Depression happened 11 focking years after World War I. In between, this country enjoyed insane prosperity. Ever hear of the "Roaring '20s?"

World War I didn't cause The Great Depression. Crapass government policies during the 1920s, bank failures, money-supply collapse and panic caused The Great Depression. 

Oh, and you want to take a stab at the party affiliation of every president from 1921 to 1932?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,277]

3 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

It always brings me joy to infoslam you when you pop off about something without researching it. Once again you cook up information in your brain and not knowing what you don't know.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/06/world-war-1-centennial-us-history-modern-america#:~:text=In addition%2C the conflict heralded,military power in the world.

The Great Depression happened 11 focking years after World War I. In between, this country enjoyed insane prosperity. Ever hear of the "Roaring '20s?"

World War I didn't cause The Great Depression. Crapass government policies during the 1920s, bank failures, money-supply collapse and panic caused The Great Depression. 

Oh, and you want to take a stab at the party affiliation of every president from 1921 to 1932?

So you can be the number one world power and be in a depression. Got it. Point remains, you think our isolation was the reason for our entry into ww1. That’s just Fockin hilarious. Pssst. We became the world power after we got everyone to use the dollar as the anchor currency. 

[craftsman 1,045]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So you can be the number one world power and be in a depression. Got it. Point remains, you think our isolation was the reason for our entry into ww1. That’s just Fockin hilarious. Pssst. We became the world power after we got everyone to use the dollar as the anchor currency. 

Rusty doesn't know anything about WW1. He was mismanaged as a kid learning history. Similar to the problems kids have today. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,277]

Just now, craftsman said:

Rusty doesn't know anything about WW1. He was mismanaged as a kid learning history. Similar to the problems kids have today. 

He’ll say anything to defend Bidens war. 

[craftsman 1,045]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He’ll say anything to defend Bidens war. 

Absolutely anything. It's sad he lives in the US.

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So you can be the number one world power and be in a depression. Got it. Point remains, you think our isolation was the reason for our entry into ww1. That’s just Fockin hilarious. 

Wrong again.

Fact: Woodrow Wilson ran on a platform of isolationism and America First, but even this guy whohad this view - the view you share - saw too much at stake to not enter America into that conflict. It would have been an economic disaster for the United States had Germany won the war. Plus, Germany conspired with Mexico against us, and German submarines in an unrestricted rampage were sinking U.S. vessels. 

I provided you with stone-cold facts about what led to The Great Depression, and World War I was not among them.

Root around in the HT Misinformation Generator section of your brain and come up with how World War I led to The Great Depression more than a focking decade later, and the policies under Republican administrations in the 1920s had nothing to do with it

 

 

[craftsman 1,045]

Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

Wrong again.

Fact: Woodrow Wilson ran on a platform of isolationism and America First, but even this guy whohad this view - the view you share - saw too much at stake to not enter America into that conflict. It would have been an economic disaster for the United States had Germany won the war. Plus, Germany conspired with Mexico against us, and German submarines in an unrestricted rampage were sinking U.S. vessels. 

I provided you with stone-cold facts about what led to The Great Depression, and World War I was not among them.

Root around in the HT Misinformation Generator section of your brain and come up with how World War I led to The Great Depression more than a focking decade later, and the policies under Republican administrations in the 1920s had nothing to do with it

 

 

Fact: Biden is president and this country is focked because he is president. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

4 minutes ago, craftsman said:

Fact: Biden is president and this country is focked because he is president. 

This doesn't make World War I the cause of The Great Depression.

[craftsman 1,045]

1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

This doesn't make World War I the cause of The Great Depression.

You don't know what WW1 was about. You lose. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,277]

10 minutes ago, craftsman said:

You don't know what WW1 was about. You lose. 

He doesn’t even get why they call it ww 1, wrecking every reason that we entered that stupid, stupid war. It got us nothing but another world war and the rise of the Nazis and Stalin. He’s an idiot. 

[craftsman 1,045]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

He doesn’t even get why they call it ww 1, wrecking every reason that we entered that stupid, stupid war. It got us nothing but another world war and the rise of the Nazis and Stalin. He’s an idiot. 

It's a shame we have such stupid adults in this country. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

10 minutes ago, craftsman said:

You don't know what WW1 was about. You lose. 

This isn't a conversation about what caused World War I.

The larger discussion is about nationalism, isolationism and America First, with those believing in it saying we should not have been involved in Ukraine.

I pointed out that that Woodrow Wilson ran and won on an America First platform and that he was opposed to our involvement in World War I.

I pointed out that ultimately he reversed himself, and off to World War I we went, that America First didn't work then and won't work now because there is too much at stake in Ukraine.

HT misquoted me in saying I thought World War I was "a good thing" for the United States. I never said that, but subsequently I provided information on how America emerged as the world's top economic and military power.

HT asserted that World War I caused The Great Depression more than a decade later.

I posted a ton of factual information on The Great Depression causes, all of which occurred under Republican administrations during a decade of crazy prosperity in the United States.

I'm still waiting for HT to back up his assertion that World War I caused The Depression, and it had nothing to do with irresponsible Republican policies during the 1920s.

Likewise, I'm still waiting for you to post something witty, intelligent, factual or even marginally useful.

But this wait will go one forever, because neither of you two imbeciles can climb out of your respective ignorance pits long enough to learn and accept anything other than what aligns with the dopey MAGAtard agenda and beliefs set.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,277]

Blah blah. Attempting to use our entry into the dumbest war in the history of wars that made things so much worse and ushered in destruction and depravity on a scale never seen before to make a claim that it justifies our current involvement in another European conflict where we were not attacked is just incredibly retarded. Pimpadoosh will say anything. He’s a moron. 

[craftsman 1,045]

6 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

This isn't a conversation about what caused World War I.

The larger discussion is about nationalism, isolationism and America First, with those believing in it saying we should not have been involved in Ukraine.

I pointed out that that Woodrow Wilson ran and won on an America First platform and that he was opposed to our involvement in World War I.

I pointed out that ultimately he reversed himself, and off to World War I we went, that America First didn't work then and won't work now because there is too much at stake in Ukraine.

HT misquoted me in saying I thought World War I was "a good thing" for the United States. I never said that, but subsequently I provided information on how America emerged as the world's top economic and military power.

HT asserted that World War I caused The Great Depression more than a decade later.

I posted a ton of factual information on The Great Depression causes, all of which occurred under Republican administrations during a decade of crazy prosperity in the United States.

I'm still waiting for HT to back up his assertion that World War I caused The Depression, and it had nothing to do with irresponsible Republican policies during the 1920s.

Likewise, I'm still waiting for you to post something witty, intelligent, factual or even marginally useful.

But this wait will go one forever, because neither of you two imbeciles can climb out of your respective ignorance pits long enough to learn and accept anything other than what aligns with the dopey MAGAtard agenda and beliefs set.

Jeez... You are dumb. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He doesn’t even get why they call it ww 1, wrecking every reason that we entered that stupid, stupid war. It got us nothing but another world war and the rise of the Nazis and Stalin. He’s an idiot. 

OMG. 

First off, it wasn't called World War I from the get-go. You couldn't call it World War I unless you had a second world war. It was called The Great War until on or about Sept. 3, 1939, the day England and France declared war on Germany following the attack on Poland, thus inventing World War II, although the real start to the conflict was in 1937, when Japan attacked China.

Please produce supportive evidence that changing the conflict's name from The Great War to World War I somehow resulted in the "wrecking every reason that we entered that stupid, stupid war."

A name change didn't retroactively invalidate our reasons for entering World War I. They called them world wars because much of the world's countries were involved in them. I supposed they could have just called the second conflict The Great War II, and then every reason we entered the first one wouldn't have been wrecked, according to your obtuse logic.

And somehow the world would have wound up in a better place had Wilson just stuck to his America First guns, ignored the potential economic perils of a German victory and let the U-boats sink our ships and kill Americans as they pleased.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,277]

3 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

OMG. 

First off, it wasn't called World War I from the get-go. You couldn't call it World War I unless you had a second world war. It was called The Great War until on or about Sept. 3, 1939, the day England and France declared war on Germany following the attack on Poland, thus inventing World War II, although the real start to the conflict was in 1937, when Japan attacked China.

Please produce supportive evidence that changing the conflict's name from The Great War to World War I somehow resulted in the "wrecking every reason that we entered that stupid, stupid war."

A name change didn't retroactively invalidate our reasons for entering World War I. They called them world wars because much of the world's countries were involved in them. I supposed they could have just called the second conflict The Great War II, and then every reason we entered the first one wouldn't have been wrecked, according to your obtuse logic.

And somehow the world would have wound up in a better place had Wilson just stuck to his America First guns, ignored the potential economic perils of a German victory and let the U-boats sink our ships and kill Americans as they pleased.

 

Exactly. It worked out so great they had to change the name of it. Which has been my point. But thanks for that strawman as you attempt to appear knowledgeable.  

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Exactly. It worked out so great they had to change the name of it. Which has been my point. But thanks for that strawman as you attempt to appear knowledgeable.  

What you're saying is that our reasons for entering The Great War were invalidated the second they renamed it as World War I. 

This is some funny sh!t.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,277]

6 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

What you're saying is that our reasons for entering The Great War were invalidated the second they renamed it as World War I. 

This is some funny sh!t.

 

Our reasons were never valid, and that escapes you. That just crystalized it. Give it up dum dum. You failed in your analogy.   You actually made your point worse. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Our reasons were never valid, and that escapes you. That just crystalized it. Give it up dum dum. You failed in your analogy.   You actually made your point worse. 

Here is your exact quote:

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He doesn’t even get why they call it ww 1, wrecking every reason that we entered that stupid, stupid war.

You assert that the renaming invalidated the reasons for entering World War I.

Your ignore the fact that Wilson, the guy who got us into it, invented the America First philosophy but went back on it once he realized the incredible stakes, not to mention that the Germans waged unrestricted U-boat warfare, sunk our ships and killed Americans.

Prove me wrong.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,277]

4 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Here is your exact quote:

You assert that the renaming invalidated the reasons for entering World War I.

Your ignore the fact that Wilson, the guy who got us into it, invented the America First philosophy but went back on it once he realized the incredible stakes, not to mention that the Germans waged unrestricted U-boat warfare, sunk our ships and killed Americans.

Prove me wrong.

They sunk our ships that sailed into a war zone. Stay out of war zones if you’re not involved in the war. Stop acting like they sailed into us waters and attacked our ships.