Twitter adopts 'poison pill' to prevent Elon Musk takeover

[jerryskids 6,978]

10 hours ago, dogcows said:

The reason to ask is this: was it censorship when Trump’s White House asked them to take down posts and they did so? Because this whole “exposé” from Taibbi covers a time when Trump was president, and he confirms that happened. That kills the idea that Twitter was unfairly treating Trump, and also since most right-wingers seem ok with this, it kills their argument that any government request for a social media company to take something down amounts to censorship.

See below under Tim's post, because...

2 hours ago, Raven Fan said:

This is why libs get steamrolled.  They try to act all above the fray when deplorables will happily spit on them.

Fok the deplorable.  The idiot presents himself as some big "man" and he's getting called out on it.

I'm sure homos use hetero actions as put down in their community.  Horsesass can let us know for sure. 

... I just wanted to say that I don't care if you give him crap, but the manner in which you do indicates a strong repressed gay urge.  HTH

42 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yes.  Taibbi made this clear.

 

 

 

 

There are multiple issues at play.  If as it appears both "sides" did it, I would argue that it is wrong.  However, there are two questions I can think of:

1.  Just because it happened in the Trump admin doesn't mean it was for the benefit of Trump or the Right.  Dogcows in particular seems to be conflating to this argument.  But if say (and I know this wasn't in the first Taibbi report) the Hunter laptop was suppressed prior to the 2020 election, that technically happened during the Trump admin, but obviously was not to his benefit.  Which brings us to:

2.  The relative proportion of Left vs. Right censorship.  I keep seeing the Left post #10 from Taibbi; let's look at #11 after the "however": 

Quote

 

 

To say that both sides did it equally is, well, laughable.

[TimHauck 3,187]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

See below under Tim's post, because...

... I just wanted to say that I don't care if you give him crap, but the manner in which you do indicates a strong repressed gay urge.  HTH

There are multiple issues at play.  If as it appears both "sides" did it, I would argue that it is wrong.  However, there are two questions I can think of:

1.  Just because it happened in the Trump admin doesn't mean it was for the benefit of Trump or the Right.  Dogcows in particular seems to be conflating to this argument.  But if say (and I know this wasn't in the first Taibbi report) the Hunter laptop was suppressed prior to the 2020 election, that technically happened during the Trump admin, but obviously was not to his benefit.  Which brings us to:

2.  The relative proportion of Left vs. Right censorship.  I keep seeing the Left post #10 from Taibbi; let's look at #11 after the "however": 

To say that both sides did it equally is, well, laughable.

Who said both sides did it equally? But some (not you it appears) seem to think it’s not a problem if “it’s not widespread” from one of the sides.

The tweet specifically says twitter received requests from the Trump White House that were honored.  How would that not be “for Trump’s benefit”?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,471]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Who said both sides did it equally? But some (not you it appears) seem to think it’s not a problem if “it’s not widespread” from one of the sides.

The tweet specifically says twitter received requests from the Trump White House that were honored.  How would that not be “for Trump’s benefit”?

we would have to see what those requests were

it could be something like WH requests to not allow matters of national security, problem is we don't know

what we do know is that the Biden laptop was suppressed by the big guy

[TimHauck 3,187]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

we would have to see what those requests were

it could be something like WH requests to not allow matters of national security, problem is we don't know

what we do know is that the Biden laptop was suppressed by the big guy

Actually, we don’t know that.  We know they asked to take down Hunter’s d1ck

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,471]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Actually, we don’t know that.  We know they asked to take down Hunter’s d1ck

so stories in general were allowed to be posted?

cause we know the NYPost was struck with disinformation on it

 

[TimHauck 3,187]

6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so stories in general were allowed to be posted?

cause we know the NYPost was struck with disinformation on it

 

By twitter, no evidence of government involvement, as admitted by Taibbi

[TimHauck 3,187]

Lol, great article -

 

 

[Raven Fan 362]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Actually, we don’t know that.  We know they asked to take down Hunter’s d1ck

Twitter Is Interfering With Elections!!!

I'll ask again, how is this different than Murdoch buying up and concealing stories unfavorable to Trump?  Murdoch's media empire is massive and his action most definitely influenced the election.

The difference is you don't hear democrats crying constantly about elections being stolen. 

[dogcows 1,032]

21 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

See below under Tim's post, because...

... I just wanted to say that I don't care if you give him crap, but the manner in which you do indicates a strong repressed gay urge.  HTH

There are multiple issues at play.  If as it appears both "sides" did it, I would argue that it is wrong.  However, there are two questions I can think of:

1.  Just because it happened in the Trump admin doesn't mean it was for the benefit of Trump or the Right.  Dogcows in particular seems to be conflating to this argument.  But if say (and I know this wasn't in the first Taibbi report) the Hunter laptop was suppressed prior to the 2020 election, that technically happened during the Trump admin, but obviously was not to his benefit.  Which brings us to:

2.  The relative proportion of Left vs. Right censorship.  I keep seeing the Left post #10 from Taibbi; let's look at #11 after the "however": 

To say that both sides did it equally is, well, laughable.

But post 11 doesn’t actually show any new info. It presented previously-known info and used it to try and induce people to infer something… that since a lot of Twitter employees donate to Democrats, there are supposedly a lot of “contacts” with the moderation team. But those donations don’t prove any “connections” nor do the donations show whether people on the content moderation team made them… it’s employees overall. Moderators were just a small piece of the employee base.

An exposé should be showing new information. In his post 11, he is reaching to try and prove something, despite that data not proving it at all.

In response to your “we don’t know” response to Trump’s takedown requests… WHY didn’t Taibbi show those emails? Instead, he only showed emails from the Biden campaign. A fair assessment would have shown both sets of emails. Also, he has access to all the takedown requests, right? If there really were more from liberals, why not show that? Instead, he relies on political donation information. Which tells me that the numbers aren’t actually as skewed as he wants you to think… or he’d just plain show them.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,826]

So I guess we are all going to skip past the fact that the guy in charge of what gets posted said it was wrong to not let the laptop story be published. Pffft. BFD.  

[jerryskids 6,978]

10 minutes ago, dogcows said:

But post 11 doesn’t actually show any new info. It presented previously-known info and used it to try and induce people to infer something… that since a lot of Twitter employees donate to Democrats, there are supposedly a lot of “contacts” with the moderation team. But those donations don’t prove any “connections” nor do the donations show whether people on the content moderation team made them… it’s employees overall. Moderators were just a small piece of the employee base.

An exposé should be showing new information. In his post 11, he is reaching to try and prove something, despite that data not proving it at all.

In response to your “we don’t know” response to Trump’s takedown requests… WHY didn’t Taibbi show those emails? Instead, he only showed emails from the Biden campaign. A fair assessment would have shown both sets of emails. Also, he has access to all the takedown requests, right? If there really were more from liberals, why not show that? Instead, he relies on political donation information. Which tells me that the numbers aren’t actually as skewed as he wants you to think… or he’d just plain show them.

Fair questions, but it may be as simple as he doesn't have every email ever sent to Twitter.  Taibbi is fairly centrist; not like the "centrists" here, actually centrist.  He's also an actual journalist.  So I'd be surprised if he is trying to generate a biased piece.

I too would like to see what Trump requests were honored.  I literally can't think of Twitter ever doing anything to benefit Trump, so I'm intrigued. 

 

[dogcows 1,032]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

Fair questions, but it may be as simple as he doesn't have every email ever sent to Twitter.  Taibbi is fairly centrist; not like the "centrists" here, actually centrist.  He's also an actual journalist.  So I'd be surprised if he is trying to generate a biased piece.

I too would like to see what Trump requests were honored.  I literally can't think of Twitter ever doing anything to benefit Trump, so I'm intrigued. 

 

I would definitely like more info from Taibbi too. Was he given only certain things by Musk? Or told not to expose certain things? He apologized to his readers before he released his tweet storm, so I wonder if he was required to hide some information in exchange for getting the scoop. Let’s see it all, but this time he should properly redact personal email addresses instead of doxxing people.

[TimHauck 3,187]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So I guess we are all going to skip past the fact that the guy in charge of what gets posted said it was wrong to not let the laptop story be published. Pffft. BFD.  

In an internal email chain.  No government involvement.  And the freaking CEO admitted that 2 years ago.  So thanks for confirming that the #twitterfiles did not have any bombshells.  You’re on a roll.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,471]

37 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

Twitter Is Interfering With Elections!!!

I'll ask again, how is this different than Murdoch buying up and concealing stories unfavorable to Trump?  Murdoch's media empire is massive and his action most definitely influenced the election.

The difference is you don't hear democrats crying constantly about elections being stolen. 

I am against that too

and to be clear Twitter is interfering with ERECTIONS

but I have heard for decades about elections from the dems, and it wasn't til Trump I heard it from a R

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,826]

The fbi met with Twitter and Facebook in the months  and weeks leading up to the election. No government involvement? 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,471]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The fbi met with Twitter and Facebook in the months  and weeks leading up to the election. No government involvement? 

nope they were only helping Trump

 

[TimHauck 3,187]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The fbi met with Twitter and Facebook in the months  and weeks leading up to the election. No government involvement? 

Not in requesting the NY Post story about Hunter’s laptop be suppressed. 

[TimHauck 3,187]

17 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Ok so you’re admitting the #twitterfiles aren’t that damning and we’re moving onto a different source of claims, correct?

 

17 hours ago, TimHauck said:

 

in other words, not all occasions 

Bump 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,826]

6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

nope they were only helping Trump

 

And I guess Twitter is the only source for what occurred with the censorship? If it wasn’t in the Twitter dump, it doesn’t count. Not even sworn testimony by an FBI agent that they did indeed meet with Twitter and Facebook, and everyone of note at Twitter and Facebook saying they did and were being warned about “disinformation “ about the Biden family.  The shite they would have you believe.  It’s laughable. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,471]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

And I guess Twitter is the only source for what occurred with the censorship. If it wasn’t in the Twitter dump, it doesn’t count. Not even sworn testimony by an FBI agent that they did indeed meet with Twitter and Facebook, and everyone of note at Twitter and Facebook saying they did and were being warned about “disinformation “ about the Biden family.  The shite they would have you believe.  It’s laughable. 

something something fascist racist homophobic

 

[Raven Fan 362]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The fbi met with Twitter and Facebook in the months  and weeks leading up to the election. No government involvement? 

Just so we're clear.  The FBI that reported to William Barr, the dude who singlehandedly convinced cultist that the Mueller Report was a nothingburger, that FBI?

And you cultist think that somehow the FBI was acting against Trump despite reporting to Barr??

bahahahahahaha

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,471]

1 minute ago, Raven Fan said:

Just so we're clear.  The FBI that reported to William Barr, the dude who singlehandedly convinced cultist that the Mueller Report was a nothingburger, that FBI?

And you cultist think that somehow the FBI was acting against Trump despite reporting to Barr??

bahahahahahaha

RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA here we have it

we got him now

 

[Raven Fan 362]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA here we have it

we got him now

 

No no,, the FBI who reported to Barr was meeing with Twitter completely unknown to Barr and other Trump sycophants and working to actively undermine Trump....

bahahahahahahahaha

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,471]

Just now, Raven Fan said:

No no,, the FBI who reported to Barr was meeing with Twitter completely unknown to Barr and other Trump sycophants and working to actively undermine Trump....

bahahahahahahahaha

 

right russian collusion stole the 2016 election, but you just said dems never deny elections

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,826]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA here we have it

we got him now

 

And the 51 “former” Intel agents, who still receive security briefings and have top secret clearance saying it was Russian disinformation? Yeah, no government involvement. They’re retired. Gtfo. 

[nobody 2,814]

39 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So I guess we are all going to skip past the fact that the guy in charge of what gets posted said it was wrong to not let the laptop story be published. Pffft. BFD.  

This is what they want.  They want to say it's okay to have politicians dictating what news gets censored on the largest media platforms.  I don't know why.  This seems like a no-brainer to say it shouldn't be happening, but I guess that's what people want.

[Raven Fan 362]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

right russian collusion stole the 2016 election, but you just said dems never deny elections

 

LMFAO.  Yes yes exactly the same.  Russia influenced the election is exactly the same as "the election was stolen!  My FBI meeting with them proves that!  Time to chuck out the constitution and make me king!"  The pathetic whataboutisms of cultist is tiring. 

LMFAO

[Raven Fan 362]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

This is what they want.  They want to say it's okay to have politicians dictating what news gets censored on the largest media platforms.  I don't know why.  This seems like a no-brainer to say it shouldn't be happening, but I guess that's what people want.

Kind of like Murdoch ACTIVELY buying and suppressing stories about Trump?

I don't hear anyone who crying about that even though we know for 100% sure it happened and he did it for purely political reasons.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,471]

3 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

LMFAO.  Yes yes exactly the same.  Russia influenced the election is exactly the same as "the election was stolen!  My FBI meeting with them proves that!  Time to chuck out the constitution and make me king!"  The pathetic whataboutisms of cultist is tiring. 

LMFAO

who said that?  Biden won cause of voter harvesting plain and simple Trump lost move on

meanwhile we spent 3 years of an investigation based off a fake dossier, but continue

[Sean Mooney 2,035]

49 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So I guess we are all going to skip past the fact that the guy in charge of what gets posted said it was wrong to not let the laptop story be published. Pffft. BFD.  

Did you find that part of the Twitter files thread I asked about so you could share it? 

14 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

something something fascist racist homophobic

 

Remind me: You declared yourself the most center poster here correct?

[TimHauck 3,187]

25 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

nope they were only helping Trump

 

Strawman alert

[Hardcore troubadour 15,826]

If it wasn’t in the Twitter files, it’s irrelevant. Doesn’t matter if it’s true. Lol. 

[TimHauck 3,187]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If it wasn’t in the Twitter files, it’s irrelevant. Doesn’t matter if it’s true. Lol. 

FBI meeting with Twitter isn’t a surprise given the information in the twitter files (government reporting tweets that rightfully should be removed).

But as noted by Agent Chan’s testimony, twitter did not always comply with the requests.

What would be a smoking gun, which we don’t have, would be if the government asked Twitter to take down tweets that did not violate the TOS.   Alex Berenson probably the closest, but that was after the election.

[TimHauck 3,187]

17 minutes ago, nobody said:

This is what they want.  They want to say it's okay to have politicians dictating what news gets censored on the largest media platforms.  I don't know why.  This seems like a no-brainer to say it shouldn't be happening, but I guess that's what people want.

No evidence that politicians dictated the laptop story be censored.

[Sean Mooney 2,035]

So that means he has nothing......

[avoiding injuries 1,642]

Just going to put this here bc I didn’t feel like searching for a more relevant thread. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,826]

6 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Just going to put this here bc I didn’t feel like searching for a more relevant thread. 

 

And idiots are trying to make it about the pictures.  How weak. 

[TimHauck 3,187]

18 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Just going to put this here bc I didn’t feel like searching for a more relevant thread. 

 

Cool, thanks for pointing out that the media is biased.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,471]

48 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Did you find that part of the Twitter files thread I asked about so you could share it? 

Remind me: You declared yourself the most center poster here correct?

yes I am so center right I dont care about any of this stuff and just like to laugh

[TimHauck 3,187]

16 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

yes I am so center right I dont care about any of this stuff and just like to laugh

I thought you agreed with Timcast that it was the biggest news story of our lives?