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38 minutes ago, BunnysBastatrds said:


4.0-Die Hard

5.1- Lethal Weapon

Die hard was my other option where I took field of dreams. But I’m a sports guy and I figured there’s more overall depth in the action/adventure category 

 nice picks. 

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Sorry for the holdup fellas, I was playing golf. 

4.3 Major League - Sports (1989) 

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@5-Points You're up, buddy

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Just now, bostonlager said:

I can't believe that lasted until round 4. NIce pick. 

It's shot's pick. I jumped the gun. Can you delete your quote? 

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Just now, 5-Points said:

It's shot's pick. I jumped the gun. Can you delete your quote? 

She gone. My bad on focking up the order. 

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@5-Points No dude, you're up, I'm pretty sure. On the main board you are right after me and then Shotsup, unless Volty focked up the order. 

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Just now, bostonlager said:

She gone. My bad on focking up the order. 

All good. I wanted to get that pick in and didn't even look to see if he'd gone. Hopefully he's half in the bag and didn't see it. :cheers:

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1 minute ago, bostonlager said:

@5-Points No dude, you're up, I'm pretty sure. On the main board you are right after me and then Shotsup, unless Volty focked up the order. 

You're right! 

4.4 Full Metal Jacket - War  (1987)

 

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Just now, 5-Points said:

You're right! 

4.4 Full Metal Jacket - War  (1987)

 

One more time - Nice pick - can't believe that lasted to round 4 and didn't take it myself the pick before.

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1 minute ago, bostonlager said:

One more time - Nice pick - can't believe that lasted to round 4 and didn't take it myself the pick before.

:cheers:

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38 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

One more time - Nice pick - can't believe that lasted to round 4 and didn't take it myself the pick before.

There are a few categories for movies that I generally am not into/don’t care about and war/military would be one. I’ll have to get creative later. 

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1 hour ago, WhiteWonder said:

There are a few categories for movies that I generally am not into/don’t care about and war/military would be one. I’ll have to get creative later. 

War of The Roses doesn't count.

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1.1 Herbivore             --   Raiders of the Lost Ark - Action/Adventure (1981)

1.2 WhiteWonder      --  Back to the Future - Sci Fi  (1985)

1.3 BeenHereBefore -- The Empire Strikes Back - Sci Fi (1980)

1.4 TommyGavin      --   The Blues Brothers  - Action/Adventure (1980) 

1.5 5-Points               --  Airplane! - Comedy  (1980)

1.6 bostonlager        --  The Terminator - Sci Fi (1984)

1.7 Voltaire                -- Return of the Jedi - Sci Fi (1983)

1.8 BunnyBastards  --  Caddy Shack - Sports  (1980) 

 

2.1 BunnyBastards     -- The Breakfast Club - High School (1985)

2.2 Voltaire                  --  Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - Action/Adventure (1989)

2.3 bostonlager          --   Scarface - Crime (1983) 

2.4 5- Points                --  Fast Times At Ridgemont High -- High School/College (1982)

2.5 TommyGavin        --  Stand By Me - Drama (1986)

2.6 BeenHereBefore  --  Who Framed Roger Rabbit - Animation (1988)

2.7 WhiteWonder       --  Ghostbusters - Comedy (1984)

2.8 Herbivore             ---  Raising Arizona - Crime  (1987)

 

3.1 Herbivore             --  The Princess Bride - Romance (1987)

3.2 WhiteWonder      --  Field of Dreams - Sports (1989)

3.3 BeenHereBefore --   E.T. The Extra Terrestrial - Sci Fi (1982)

3.4 TommyGavin       --  Ferris Bueller’s Day Off - Comedy (1986)

3.5 5-Points               --  The Shining - Horror (1980)

3.6 bostonlager         --  First Blood - Action/Adventure (1982)

3.7 Voltaire                --  Platoon - War (1986)

3.8 BunnyBastards   --  Die Hard Action/Adventure (1988)

 

4.1 BunnyBastards   --  Lethal Weapon Action/Adventure (1987)

4.2 Voltaire                 --  Top Gun - Action/Adventure (1986)

4.3 bostonlager         --  4.3 Major League - Sports (1989) 

4.4 5- Points               --  4.4 Full Metal Jacket - War  (1987)

4.5 TommyGavin       --  

4.6 BeenHereBefore --  

4.7 WhiteWonder      --  

4.8 Herbivore            --  

 

5.1 Herbivore             --  

5.2 WhiteWonder      --  

5.3 BeenHereBefore --  

5.4 TommyGavin       --  

5.5 5-Points               --  

5.6 bostonlager         --  

5.7 Voltaire                --  

5.8 BunnyBastards   --  

 

6.1 BunnyBastards   --  

6.2 Voltaire                 --  

6.3 bostonlager         --  

6.4 5- Points               --  

6.5 TommyGavin       --  

6.6 BeenHereBefore --  

6.7 WhiteWonder      --  

6.8 Herbivore            --  

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I have a issue with IMDB when it comes to war movies, Seems like a lot that should be are consider action adventure. This is bad and one movie about a actual war is listed as biography, Drama, History. Ps. the movie was not a biography at all.

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5 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

I have a issue with IMDB when it comes to war movies, Seems like a lot that should be are consider action adventure. This is bad and one movie about a actual war is listed as biography, Drama, History.

Glory? I noticed that as well

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Just now, bostonlager said:

Glory? I noticed that as well

Yep that is the one but also think others should be consider war movies as well.

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2 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

Hamburger Hill not a war movie either wow!

We may need to take a look at the obvious on some of these. A war about the Civil War (Glory) should be a war movie. League vote warranted. 

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Glory & Hamburger Hill should absolutely be in the war category. 

Rather than dropping spoilers, let's agree to let people draft the movie in the category they choose and debate it after the fact. 

Worst case scenario they end up in the wildcard category. 

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2 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Glory & Hamburger Hill should absolutely be in the war category. 

Rather than dropping spoilers, let's agree to let people draft the movie in the category they choose and debate it after the fact. 

Worst case scenario they end up in the wildcard category. 

Sounds like a plan.

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Two things.

First, I'm following the discussion but not weighing in. I do have opinions but if I say something, it comes with commish sounding authority, even if I just want to chime it. So I just keep conspicuously absent and let things play out, hopefully relying on the rest you seven to reach a consensus.

Second, here's something bugs me but is also an example of what I'm talking about above, wanting to weigh in with a suggestion without making a rule. Again, this isn't a rule, just a suggestion: This name dropping sucks. Every time I see a name batted around that is available it grinds me. Rather than provide concrete examples, I think you guys are better off keeping your mouths shut and just speaking generically to prevent somebody from coming in to swipe your movie out from under you.

Yes, you've uncovered some gems; keep them in your inner jacket pocket! You may have noticed that I follow it myself, whenever I've needed an example to make a point, I've chosen ineligible movies or songs from outside the 80s. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Two things.

First, I'm following the discussion but not weighing in. I do have opinions but if I say something, it comes with commish sounding authority, even if I just want to chime it. So I just keep conspicuously absent and let things play out, hopefully relying on the rest you seven to reach a consensus.

Second, here's something bugs me but is also an example of what I'm talking about above, wanting to weigh in with a suggestion without making a rule. Again, this isn't a rule, just a suggestion: This name dropping sucks. Every time I see a name batted around that is available it grinds me. Rather than provide concrete examples, I think you guys are better off keeping your mouths shut and just speaking generically to prevent somebody from coming in to swipe your movie out from under you.

Yes, you've uncovered some gems; keep them in your inner jacket pocket! You may have noticed that I follow it myself, whenever I've needed an example to make a point, I've chosen ineligible movies or songs from outside the 80s. 

 

I agree with not name dropping movies. Unlike a FF draft, where name dropping shouldnt matter because all available cheat sheets are so similar, this movie draft has so many options that it should fall on each of us to know/remember/discover our options.

 

disagree on the commish sounding authority. speak your mind like a regular drafter. If this was a sub forum where Mike could have allowed multiple people edit powers I would have offered to co-commish to update the thread. :dunno: It's not a burden you need to worry about or think you'll come off as the final word. Hell, I didn't even agree with all the categories and number of films... its all in fun :thumbsup:

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24 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

If you google war movies IMDB list a bunch but categorize many with other genres.

can you delete this?

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4 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

I agree with not name dropping movies. Unlike a FF draft, where name dropping shouldnt matter because all available cheat sheets are so similar, this movie draft has so many options that it should fall on each of us to know/remember/discover our options.

 

disagree on the commish sounding authority. speak your mind like a regular drafter. If this was a sub forum where Mike could have allowed multiple people edit powers I would have offered to co-commish to update the thread. :dunno: It's not a burden you need to worry about or think you'll come off as the final word. Hell, I didn't even agree with all the categories and number of films... its all in fun :thumbsup:

Agreed. Speak your piece Volty. 

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I'm not even taking a war movie this round and was no hurry to do so cause thought so many other good ones was available. Just pointing out IMDB is a joke how they consider what get a war title or something else. I think this is a problem and why I mentioned it.

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2 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

I'm not even taking a war movie this round and was no hurry to do so cause thought so many other good ones was available. Just pointing out IMDB is a joke how they consider what get a war title or something else. I think this is a problem and why I mentioned it.

All good. My only issue was the dropping of movies that could still be drafted.  

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Just now, 5-Points said:

All good. My only issue was the dropping of movies that could still be drafted.  

I didn't drop the Glory name but alluded to it but my bad on the other. Yep all good and thanks.

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57 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Two things.

First, I'm following the discussion but not weighing in. I do have opinions but if I say something, it comes with commish sounding authority, even if I just want to chime it. So I just keep conspicuously absent and let things play out, hopefully relying on the rest you seven to reach a consensus.

Second, here's something bugs me but is also an example of what I'm talking about above, wanting to weigh in with a suggestion without making a rule. Again, this isn't a rule, just a suggestion: This name dropping sucks. Every time I see a name batted around that is available it grinds me. Rather than provide concrete examples, I think you guys are better off keeping your mouths shut and just speaking generically to prevent somebody from coming in to swipe your movie out from under you.

Yes, you've uncovered some gems; keep them in your inner jacket pocket! You may have noticed that I follow it myself, whenever I've needed an example to make a point, I've chosen ineligible movies or songs from outside the 80s. 

 

I say, make your pick and category, if you think it is on the fence, say so, if someone really wants to complain, go ahead. If anyone picked either of the mentioned for War, I would have thought, yea, good war pick. I havent looked at IMDB, lets let it be guide, not a definition.

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40 minutes ago, TommyGavin said:

4.05 The Untouchables Crime 1987

"They put one of yours in the hospital, you put one of theirs in the morgue."

 

Nice pick. :thumbsup:

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I think IMDB is a good general guide but there seems to be gaps. Use your judgement and we can police ourselves. If you think somebody mis-categorized something, speak up. Likewise, if somebody tells you that you mis-categorized something, hear them out and take it under consideration. If that person thinks you focked up, likely some voters at the end will too.

Even if I like a film, if I think that any of you've stick something in the wrong category, I'll give you no credit for it and treat it like a movie I never heard of. That's what bending the rules on a technicality gets you. I will grant you the courtesy of saying, "Hey maybe you should move it over here instead."

Bunny took Lethal Weapon and Die Hard back to back on his last corner. Both primarily get the Action tag but according to IDMB, the first also gets a crime tag, the second doesn't.  That seems subjective.

Long story short, IMO if you think you can sell it to yourself and the rest of us, knock yourself out. Another option on the table is universal consent as 5 Points made, take the pick and we'll discuss it afterwards. I think we're gelling around both of these two from the comments I've seen. Maybe you'll need to reorder. 

A third is that Mike Honcho isn't participating but did offer to do commish-type stuff, so he's impartial and doesn't have any vested interest, and every indication is that he would be happy to help.

 

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6 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I think IMDB is a good general guide but there seems to be gaps. Use your judgement and we can police ourselves. If you think somebody mis-categorized something, speak up. Likewise, if somebody tells you that you mis-categorized something, hear them out and take it under consideration. If that person thinks you focked up, likely some voters at the end will too.

Even if I like a film, if I think that any of you've stick something in the wrong category, I'll give you no credit for it and treat it like a movie I never heard of. That's what bending the rules on a technicality gets you. I will grant you the courtesy of saying, "Hey maybe you should move it over here instead."

Bunny took Lethal Weapon and Die Hard back to back on his last corner. Both primarily get the Action tag but according to IDMB, the first also gets a crime tag, the second doesn't.  That seems subjective.

Long story short, IMO if you think you can sell it to yourself and the rest of us, knock yourself out. Another option on the table is universal consent as 5 Points made, take the pick and we'll discuss it afterwards. I think we're gelling around both of these two from the comments I've seen. Maybe you'll need to reorder. 

A third is that Mike Honcho isn't participating but did offer to do commish-type stuff, so he's impartial and doesn't have any vested interest, and every indication is that he would be happy to help.

 

My only concern was the naming of eligible movies that hadn't yet been claimed. If there's any argument about what category a movie "belongs" in, I say we put it in the wildcard category until it gets sorted out so the guy who picked it gets it and we continue with the draft.

Whether it gets decided by majority vote or if Honcho makes the call, I'm good either way. 

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10 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

My only concern was the naming of eligible movies that hadn't yet been claimed. If there's any argument about what category a movie "belongs" in, I say we put it in the wildcard category until it gets sorted out so the guy who picked it gets it and we continue with the draft.

Whether it gets decided by majority vote or if Honcho makes the call, I'm good either way. 

 This/ Die Hard has been called a X-Mas movie.  Which it’s clearly not. Let’s not get into sympantics  and enjoy the fun that it is. Fun!!!  

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Thanks, Tommy Gavin <_<

 

4.07 - Raging Bull - Sports (1980)

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One of my concerns (only one really) with categories is the school/college category which does not exist on imdb even for obvious movies like Breakfast Club (already drafted so not name dropping). If you google high school movies of the 80's, for example, a lot of movies pop up that someone might not immediately think of in the category but would certainly fit based on the storylines

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9 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

Thanks, Tommy Gavin <_<

 

4.07 - Raging Bull - Sports (1980)

:mad:

 

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1 minute ago, WhiteWonder said:

One of my concerns with categories is the school/college category which does not exist on imdb even for obvious movies like Breakfast Club (already drafted so not name dropping). If you google high school movies of the 80's, for example, a lot of movies pop up that someone might not immediately think of in the category but would certainly fit based on the storylines


 Family movies are confusing to me as are chick movies. It’s like “What is pornography?” You know it when you see it. 
 

 Let’s just have fun Geeks. Pretend we’re sitting at a bar having drinks and laughing about each and every one of our phat significant others and expect Voltaire and Boston to pay the bill.

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