Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, GutterBoy said: And where is she trying to get the kid to like the dress? Seriously. That woman is a nut job and you know it. If you don't think that woman influenced the 5 year old to get a dress and wear it, I believe you are either just being argumentative just to be argumentative, or you are really lost in life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,966 Posted May 25, 2022 I blame the Kinks for all of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,578 Posted May 25, 2022 9 hours ago, Utilit99 said: Seriously. That woman is a nut job and you know it. If you don't think that woman influenced the 5 year old to get a dress and wear it, I believe you are either just being argumentative just to be argumentative, or you are really lost in life. Some friend of the family will eventually accuse the mom of influencing the kid to wear dresses and gutter will say, "How was I suppose to know from that video?" and then have the nerve to call someone retarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Utilit99 said: Seriously. That woman is a nut job and you know it. If you don't think that woman influenced the 5 year old to get a dress and wear it, I believe you are either just being argumentative just to be argumentative, or you are really lost in life. You're advocating for a 5 year old boy to be physically assaulted for wearing a dress. You can't accuse anyone of being lost in life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 25, 2022 6 hours ago, nobody said: Someone friend of the family will eventually accuse the mom of influencing the kid to wear dresses and gutter will say, "How was I suppose to know from that video?" and then have the nerve to call someone retarded. It's possible this kid shoots up a school in the future, nobody is going to point to this video and blame the mom for forcing the kid to wear a dress and cut off his d. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,966 Posted May 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: You're advocating for a 5 year old boy to be physically assaulted for wearing a dress. You can't accuse anyone of being lost in life You’re the guy that thinks 5 year olds should be told to shut their mouths while playing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,203 Posted May 25, 2022 On 5/25/2022 at 4:27 AM, Utilit99 said: His peers care. He's gonna get his ass kicked. There is such a thing as culture and social norms that stand in the way. And they should. On 5/25/2022 at 4:29 AM, GutterBoy said: So you're saying 5 year olds should beat the sh!t out of other 5 year olds for wearing clothes they don't like, right? Here's Gutterboy going at it again, defending undefendable sicko, degenerate crap as usual, and then someone, somehow managed to find a way to hand him a solid W in this thread. You can't advocate for bullying. Holy Cr@p. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,579 Posted May 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Here's Gutterboy going at it again, defending undefendable sicko, degenerate crap as usual, and then someone, somehow managed to find a way to hand him a solid W in this thread. You can't advocate for bullying. Holy Cr@p. If you mean one W in a sea of Ls, then yeah you are right. But overall thread, he didn't do well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: If you mean one W in a sea of Ls, then yeah you are right. But overall thread, he didn't do well. You still think the mom is brow beating the kid? . Doosh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,579 Posted May 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: You still think the mom is brow beating the kid? . Doosh I moved it to "manipulating" a while back, since you had an issue with it. Perhaps English isn't your first language? I'm fascinated by how many times you take positions which get zero support and tremendous pushback. Myself and Nobody, both engineers, have tried to point out the problem with your position. I know you think you are smarter than all of us, but at some point does a dimmable lightbulb start to go off in your head that maybe you haven't thought this through? My model of you, based on other threads like the poor twerking girl in NYC, is that if it doesn't directly affect your family, you think it is all just an overreaction and no big deal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,203 Posted May 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, jerryskids said: If you mean one W in a sea of Ls, then yeah you are right. But overall thread, he didn't do well. Yes, that's what I meant. At least he's consistent. He's never once seen a sick or disturbing situation involving children where he wasn't willing to go to bat on behalf of the creepy, pervert exploiting them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,966 Posted May 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I moved it to "manipulating" a while back, since you had an issue with it. Perhaps English isn't your first language? I'm fascinated by how many times you take positions which get zero support and tremendous pushback. Myself and Nobody, both engineers, have tried to point out the problem with your position. I know you think you are smarter than all of us, but at some point does a dimmable lightbulb start to go off in your head that maybe you haven't thought this through? My model of you, based on other threads like the poor twerking girl in NYC, is that if it doesn't directly affect your family, you think it is all just an overreaction and no big deal. His anger inhibits his reasoning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 25, 2022 42 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Here's Gutterboy going at it again, defending undefendable sicko, degenerate crap as usual, and then someone, somehow managed to find a way to hand him a solid W in this thread. You can't advocate for bullying. Holy Cr@p. Who advocated for bullying? It's truth. Put a dress on and go to grade school you will get bullied. It is American culture. Don't force your kid to wear a dress to kindergarden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,203 Posted May 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: Who advocated for bullying? It's truth. Put a dress on and go to grade school you will get bullied. It is American culture. Don't force your kid to wear a dress to kindergarden. I think the "and they should" part at the end of the quoted text could be construed as advocating for bullying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I moved it to "manipulating" a while back, since you had an issue with it. Perhaps English isn't your first language? I'm fascinated by how many times you take positions which get zero support and tremendous pushback. Myself and Nobody, both engineers, have tried to point out the problem with your position. I know you think you are smarter than all of us, but at some point does a dimmable lightbulb start to go off in your head that maybe you haven't thought this through? My model of you, based on other threads like the poor twerking girl in NYC, is that if it doesn't directly affect your family, you think it is all just an overreaction and no big deal. OK, well nice to see you BACKPEDALLED to a more reasonable position. Enjoy the L. You're facinated, huh? It's probably because you're one of the sheep here. Every focking thread it's someone making a ridiculous statement, and then the sheep all come along and make it even more ridiculous. It's clear as day to someone that is not brainwashed, but of course it fascinates you to see anyone have an objective opinion. Typical thread: Mom Grooms kid into wearing a dress Next doosh in: That's child abuse Next doosh in: She's browbeating him Next doosh in: That mom should be raped by 1K gorillas Next doosh in: That kid deserves to get his ass beat Next doosh in: Our society is doomed Next doosh in: Putin needs to nuke us. And yes I'm smarter than most everyone here, but that's not a high bar. And you still can't let go of the dancing toddler I see. Still obsessed with that. Another example of over the top terrible takes, group think. And then a reasonable person like me comes along with a reasonable take, meh, its a little girl dancing, who cares, and immediately I'm a pedo. This place is bananas. But you can't see it, you're in too deep. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: His anger inhibits his reasoning. It's not working, no matter how many times you call me angry, I'm still not angry. If I was angry I would leave this place, it's entertainment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Voltaire said: I think the "and they should" part at the end of the quoted text could be construed as advocating for bullying. The mother is pushing her 5 year old to wear dresses because she is mentally ill. At least the kid's classmates can help him out to understand reality. Are you actually saying that a 5 year old should be putting on a dress to go to school? So the 5 year old kid should dictate American culture because crazy mom says so? 5 year olds in charge now of our culture!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,578 Posted May 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Typical thread: Mom Grooms kid into wearing a dress Next doosh in: That's child abuse Next doosh in: She's browbeating him Next doosh in: That mom should be raped by 1K gorillas Next doosh in: That kid deserves to get his ass beat Next doosh in: Our society is doomed Next doosh in: Putin needs to nuke us. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,578 Posted May 26, 2022 31 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: The mother is pushing her 5 year old to wear dresses because she is mentally ill. At least the kid's classmates can help him out to understand reality. Are you actually saying that a 5 year old should be putting on a dress to go to school? So the 5 year old kid should dictate American culture because crazy mom says so? 5 year olds in charge now of our culture!! I doubt the kid wasn't influenced to wear dresses, but he obviously doesn't have a strong preference for it. He's not even sure he wants the stupid dress in that video. She's trying to talk him into it. A good parent wouldn't just say "wear a dress if you want." At the very least, warn the kid that dressing so strangely will have consequences among his classmates. She's over there telling him he should do it. I'm sure if he wanted to wear garbage bags to school or some shirt with pornography on it because he loved garbage and porn so much, she would step in and let him know those actions will have consequences or more likely outright forbid it, but since she wants the kid to wear a dress, it's all about "be your inner most you!" after she no doubt has been influencing him down that path his whole life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,203 Posted May 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: The mother is pushing her 5 year old to wear dresses because she is mentally ill. At least the kid's classmates can help him out to understand reality. It's far beyond the capacity of his five year olds peers to help this kid to understand reality in any constructive way. The methods his fellow five year olds choose to help him understand reality would involve mocking him endlessly and possibly tossing him in the dumpster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Voltaire said: It's far beyond the capacity of his five year olds peers to help this kid to understand reality in any constructive way. The methods his fellow five year olds choose to help him understand reality would involve mocking him endlessly and possibly tossing him in the dumpster. It's because of his crazy mother doesn't like American culture. Maybe they should move to chiner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, nobody said: I doubt the kid wasn't influenced to wear dresses, but he obviously doesn't have a strong preference for it. He's not even sure he wants the stupid dress in that video. She's trying to talk him into it. A good parent wouldn't just say "wear a dress if you want." At the very least, warn the kid that dressing so strangely will have consequences among his classmates. She's over there telling him he should do it. I'm sure if he wanted to wear garbage bags to school or some shirt with pornography on it because he loved garbage and porn so much, she would step in and let him know those actions will have consequences, but since she wants the kid to wear a dress, it's all about "be your inner most you!" after she no doubt has been influencing him down that path his whole life. She's not a good parent, any parent that puts her kid on tiktok to make a poliitcal point is not a good parent. I'll explain again, the whole point of the video is to make a point to her followers that clothing should not have gender. If she wants to dress like a boy (she's wearing the same shirt as her son, did you catch that), then she can, and if a boy wants to wear a dress, he can. Let's do this real slow now.... Hold on. You love it and you want it and you picked it out, but you don't want it for it school. Can you tell me why? Boy: Because last time I wore a dress to school, everyone called me a girl. - OK, kid agrees he likes the dress and wears dresses to school What did we learn from My Shadow is Pink? Boy: Even when you wear a dress, you're not a girl - Right off the bat, clothing is not gender. <yeah I'm sure that book or whatever it is didn't help influence his thinking> What makes a shirt for a boy or a girl? Boy: Nothing -Sure So do you want this? You picked it out! Boy: I do want it... <he obviously had something else to say but it is edited out> You want to wear it all the time at home, but not at school, right? Boy: Yeah Tell me about that. Boy: I don't want o be made fun of, and that's what they always do. - Her issue is with the school and society in general that makes fun of boys that wear dresses What makes you like dresses so much? Boy: I just like dresses - dude likes dresses, who cares Do you think bright pretty colors and dresses and sequences and jewels and gold... all the things that you always wnat to wear... Do you think that's the inner most you? Boy: mmhmm, it is. - dude like gay sh!tt, who cares You know you're mommy get's made fun of for looking like this, too. - mom looks like a dyke, who cares And right before the cut, she makes the point again, it's wrong to assign gender to clothing. But of course, the GC jumps to the conclusion, SHE'S GROOMING HIM TO WEAR A DRESS AND BE A GIRL. Talk about missing the point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 519 Posted May 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, nobody said: I doubt the kid wasn't influenced to wear dresses, but he obviously doesn't have a strong preference for it. He's not even sure he wants the stupid dress in that video. She's trying to talk him into it. A good parent wouldn't just say "wear a dress if you want." At the very least, warn the kid that dressing so strangely will have consequences among his classmates. She's over there telling him he should do it. I'm sure if he wanted to wear garbage bags to school or some shirt with pornography on it because he loved garbage and porn so much, she would step in and let him know those actions will have consequences, but since she wants the kid to wear a dress, it's all about "be your inner most you!" after she no doubt has been influencing him down that path his whole life. Great assessment. She is putting herself and her need for social media approval over the best interests of her son. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, nobody said: I doubt the kid wasn't influenced to wear dresses, but he obviously doesn't have a strong preference for it. He's not even sure he wants the stupid dress in that video. She's trying to talk him into it. A good parent wouldn't just say "wear a dress if you want." At the very least, warn the kid that dressing so strangely will have consequences among his classmates. She's over there telling him he should do it. I'm sure if he wanted to wear garbage bags to school or some shirt with pornography on it because he loved garbage and porn so much, she would step in and let him know those actions will have consequences, but since she wants the kid to wear a dress, it's all about "be your inner most you!" after she no doubt has been influencing him down that path his whole life. That woman is obviously focked up in life. And even if she wasn't, just leave 5 year olds alone and have them adhere to norms until they grow up and choose for themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 519 Posted May 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: She's not a good parent, any parent that puts her kid on tiktok to make a poliitcal point is not a good parent. I'll explain again, the whole point of the video is to make a point to her followers that clothing should not have gender. If she wants to dress like a boy (she's wearing the same shirt as her son, did you catch that), then she can, and if a boy wants to wear a dress, he can. Let's do this real slow now.... Hold on. You love it and you want it and you picked it out, but you don't want it for it school. Can you tell me why? Boy: Because last time I wore a dress to school, everyone called me a girl. - OK, kid agrees he likes the dress and wears dresses to school What did we learn from My Shadow is Pink? Boy: Even when you wear a dress, you're not a girl - Right off the bat, clothing is not gender. <yeah I'm sure that book or whatever it is didn't help influence his thinking> What makes a shirt for a boy or a girl? Boy: Nothing -Sure So do you want this? You picked it out! Boy: I do want it... <he obviously had something else to say but it is edited out> You want to wear it all the time at home, but not at school, right? Boy: Yeah Tell me about that. Boy: I don't want o be made fun of, and that's what they always do. - Her issue is with the school and society in general that makes fun of boys that wear dresses What makes you like dresses so much? Boy: I just like dresses - dude likes dresses, who cares Do you think bright pretty colors and dresses and sequences and jewels and gold... all the things that you always wnat to wear... Do you think that's the inner most you? Boy: mmhmm, it is. - dude like gay sh!tt, who cares You know you're mommy get's made fun of for looking like this, too. - mom looks like a dyke, who cares And right before the cut, she makes the point again, it's wrong to assign gender to clothing. But of course, the GC jumps to the conclusion, SHE'S GROOMING HIM TO WEAR A DRESS AND BE A GIRL. Talk about missing the point. Well...clothing does have a gender. Or are we now pretending there are no longer societal norms? And I would say based off that video she is probably pushing him to wear dresses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,578 Posted May 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: She's not a good parent, any parent that puts her kid on tiktok to make a poliitcal point is not a good parent. I'll explain again, the whole point of the video is to make a point to her followers that clothing should not have gender. If she wants to dress like a boy (she's wearing the same shirt as her son, did you catch that), then she can, and if a boy wants to wear a dress, he can. Let's do this real slow now.... Hold on. You love it and you want it and you picked it out, but you don't want it for it school. Can you tell me why? Boy: Because last time I wore a dress to school, everyone called me a girl. - OK, kid agrees he likes the dress and wears dresses to school What did we learn from My Shadow is Pink? Boy: Even when you wear a dress, you're not a girl - Right off the bat, clothing is not gender. <yeah I'm sure that book or whatever it is didn't help influence his thinking> What makes a shirt for a boy or a girl? Boy: Nothing -Sure So do you want this? You picked it out! Boy: I do want it... <he obviously had something else to say but it is edited out> You want to wear it all the time at home, but not at school, right? Boy: Yeah Tell me about that. Boy: I don't want o be made fun of, and that's what they always do. - Her issue is with the school and society in general that makes fun of boys that wear dresses What makes you like dresses so much? Boy: I just like dresses - dude likes dresses, who cares Do you think bright pretty colors and dresses and sequences and jewels and gold... all the things that you always wnat to wear... Do you think that's the inner most you? Boy: mmhmm, it is. - dude like gay sh!tt, who cares You know you're mommy get's made fun of for looking like this, too. - mom looks like a dyke, who cares And right before the cut, she makes the point again, it's wrong to assign gender to clothing. But of course, the GC jumps to the conclusion, SHE'S GROOMING HIM TO WEAR A DRESS AND BE A GIRL. Talk about missing the point. The part you gloss over is ever question she asks is her telling him what he thinks and then encouraging him to agree. That's manipulative as fock. People in general, but especially kids, are more apt to just agree with an authority figure. If she's doing that here where she's attempting to look impartial, what is she doing when the camera is off? If you can't see that, you're blind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,964 Posted May 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, nobody said: I doubt the kid wasn't influenced to wear dresses, but he obviously doesn't have a strong preference for it. He's not even sure he wants the stupid dress in that video. She's trying to talk him into it. A good parent wouldn't just say "wear a dress if you want." At the very least, warn the kid that dressing so strangely will have consequences among his classmates. She's over there telling him he should do it. I'm sure if he wanted to wear garbage bags to school or some shirt with pornography on it because he loved garbage and porn so much, she would step in and let him know those actions will have consequences, but since she wants the kid to wear a dress, it's all about "be your inner most you!" after she no doubt has been influencing him down that path his whole life. 5 minutes ago, Brad GLuckman said: Great assessment. She is putting herself and her need for social media approval over the best interests of her son. You guys are spot on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Brad GLuckman said: Well...clothing does have a gender. Or are we now pretending there are no longer societal norms? And I would say based off that video she is probably pushing him to wear dresses. I think it does too, this woman does not, but she's not pushing him to wear the dress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 26, 2022 1 minute ago, nobody said: The part you gloss over is ever question she asks is her telling him what he thinks and then encouraging him to agree. That's manipulative as fock. People in general, but especially kids, are more apt to just agree with an authority figure. If she's doing that here where she's attempting to look impartial, what is she doing when the camera is off? If you can't see that, you're blind. Have you ever been around a kid? Try telling your son that he likes to wear a dress (assuming he doesn't), is the kid gonna agree or go "NOOOOO!". That lil faggit kid wants to wear a damn dress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Brad GLuckman said: Well...clothing does have a gender. Or are we now pretending there are no longer societal norms? And I would say based off that video she is probably pushing him to wear dresses. Yes. 100%. WTF are people thinking in this country? Shove a tampon up your male ass because tampon's are not gender related? Oh wait, that is happening. So disturbing our great culture is deteriorating like this. One 5 year old at a time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,966 Posted May 26, 2022 38 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: OK, well nice to see you BACKPEDALLED to a more reasonable position. Enjoy the L. You're facinated, huh? It's probably because you're one of the sheep here. Every focking thread it's someone making a ridiculous statement, and then the sheep all come along and make it even more ridiculous. It's clear as day to someone that is not brainwashed, but of course it fascinates you to see anyone have an objective opinion. Typical thread: Mom Grooms kid into wearing a dress Next doosh in: That's child abuse Next doosh in: She's browbeating him Next doosh in: That mom should be raped by 1K gorillas Next doosh in: That kid deserves to get his ass beat Next doosh in: Our society is doomed Next doosh in: Putin needs to nuke us. And yes I'm smarter than most everyone here, but that's not a high bar. And you still can't let go of the dancing toddler I see. Still obsessed with that. Another example of over the top terrible takes, group think. And then a reasonable person like me comes along with a reasonable take, meh, its a little girl dancing, who cares, and immediately I'm a pedo. This place is bananas. But you can't see it, you're in too deep. Who aren’t you smarter than? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 26, 2022 Just now, Utilit99 said: Yes. 100%. WTF are people thinking in this country. Shove a tampon up your male ass because tampon's are not gender related? Oh wait, that is happening. So disturbing our great culture is deteriorating like this. One 5 year old at a time. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 26, 2022 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Who aren’t you smarter than? Can't think of anyone, but I know I'm not the smartest person in the world, so there is probably at least one person here smarter than me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,578 Posted May 26, 2022 There's a huge difference between asking an impartial question and making a statement telling the kid what he thinks and then asking the kid why he thinks that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,966 Posted May 26, 2022 Just now, GutterBoy said: Can't think of anyone, but I know I'm not the smartest person in the world, so there is probably at least one person here smarter than me. Ok. Was that minor in finance very difficult? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,964 Posted May 26, 2022 I wouldn’t be surprised to find out she’s been putting him in pretty little dresses since he was born. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Ok. Was that minor in finance very difficult? No actually I realized I only needed one extra class to get it while I was a senior so I took it over winter break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 26, 2022 Why this is not considered child abuse and prosecuted as such is just plain stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,578 Posted May 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Have you ever been around a kid? Try telling your son that he likes to wear a dress (assuming he doesn't), is the kid gonna agree or go "NOOOOO!". That lil faggit kid wants to wear a damn dress. My kid likes dinosaurs. He wants to watch dinosaur videos all day. He comes to me and says, "Can you put on a show?" and I joke, "what do you want to watch? Basketball?" and he said "no dinosaurs!" for the first 2 months. Now he says he wants to watch basketball without me even prompting. Kids do what the parents do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, nobody said: My kid likes dinosaurs. He wants to watch dinosaur videos all day. He comes to me and says, "Can you put on a show?" and I joke, "what do you want to watch? Basketball?" and he said "no dinosaurs!" for the first 2 months. Now he says he wants to watch basketball without me even prompting. Kids do what the parents do. Must be why HT's kid can't keep his mouth shut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites