Do you think the Geek Club is racist?

[TimHauck 2,685]

11 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

My use of boyo is simply a term of endearment.

And thanks for the link.  So ONE math professor makes this argument and it's "gaining traction" across the country?  Sorry but I'm very skeptical of that.

You're a math teacher, are you being asked to teach anything differently?  Have even close to a significant percentage of school systems across the country started to lower standards or teach math differently because it's racist?

Likely the answer to all is no and once again some loud lefty's stupid opinion is being pushed out like it's even close to mainstream.

I'll hold my outrage until these things become more mainstream and start to infect schools in my area.  Just like conservatives predicted that we'd have boys in girls restrooms constantly, that biological boys would ruin women's sports, that elementary school libraries are full of gay porn, etc.

None of the above has happened outside of very few isolated incidents.  And when they happen they are handled locally as they should.  No need for national outrage or to act like these things are becoming accepted by most liberals.

It's simply not true and not happening.

I just bumped the “Desantis and his stupid laws” thread which included some similar discussion.

There were examples of math “being taught differently” for blacks.
 

There have also been other threads talking about standards being lowered across the board, but I’m not aware of standards only being lowered for blacks or minorities.  You could argue affirmative action in college admissions was a form of this, but I think there is truth to the argument that SAT scores are impacted by privilege so at least originally it made sense that some blacks would be admitted to Ivy League schools for example despite lower SAT scores, because with more resources as a kid they may have had better scores.  But I’m OK with that going away now as it seems in recent years the affirmative action in college admissions was mostly just making it easier for “privileged” blacks to get in and thus hasn’t really been working for it’s intended purpose. 

[Raven Fan 362]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

I just bumped the “Desantis and his stupid laws” thread which included some similar discussion.

There were examples of math “being taught differently” for blacks.
 

There have also been other threads talking about standards being lowered across the board, but I’m not aware of standards only being lowered for blacks or minorities.  You could argue affirmative action in college admissions was a form of this, but I think there is truth to the argument that SAT scores are impacted by privilege so at least originally it made sense that some blacks would be admitted to Ivy League schools for example despite lower SAT scores, because with more resources as a kid they may have had better scores.  But I’m OK with that going away now as it seems in recent years the affirmative action in college admissions was mostly just making it easier for “privileged” blacks to get in and thus hasn’t really been working for it’s intended purpose. 

We've heard screeching from the alt right about how CRT and setting lower expectations for minorities was going to make its way into the schools for years now.  Altering school curriculums.  Examples of this happening either zero or very close to zero.  Maybe some extreme left district in Seattle or Portland may try this nonsense, but they certainly do not represent the views of main stream libs. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,159]

Math is most certainly racist.  It wants nothing to do with the schools in Baltimore 

[seafoam1 2,875]

I hate all liberals equally and equitably and diversely. 

[Dozer FBG 325]

3 hours ago, Raven Fan said:

And showing up to work on time is racist?

Why do you hate millennials?

[jerryskids 6,673]

Quote

The Bias of ‘Professionalism’ Standards

Professionalism has become coded language for white favoritism in workplace practices that more often than not privilege the values of white and Western employees and leave behind people of color.

The standards of professionalism, according to American grassroots organizer-scholars Tema Okun and Keith Jones, are heavily defined by white supremacy culture—or the systemic, institutionalized centering of whiteness. In the workplace, white supremacy culture explicitly and implicitly privileges whiteness and discriminates against non-Western and non-white professionalism standards related to dress code, speech, work style, and timeliness.

We are taught to identify white supremacy with violent segregationist groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and their modern-day equivalents. Okun and Jones, however, introduce a different approach to thinking about white supremacy. In their definition, the term describes a series of characteristics that institutionalize whiteness and Westernness as both normal and superior to other ethnic, racial, and regional identities and customs. While people often don’t view this theorization of white supremacy as violent, it can lead to systemic discrimination and physical violence.

According to Okun and Jones, white supremacy culture at an organizational level is apparent in: the belief that traditional standards and values are objective and unbiased; the emphasis on a sense of urgency and quantity over quality, which can be summarized by the phrase “the ends justify the means"; perfectionism that leaves little room for mistakes; and binary thinking.

These values, established over time as history and fact, have been used to create the narrative of white supremacy that underpins professionalism today, playing out in the hiring, firing, and day-to-day management of workplaces around the world. The story unfolds many ways: in white and Western standards of dress and hairstyle (straightened hair, suits but not saris, and burqa and beard bans in some countries); in speech, accent, word choice, and communication (never show emotion, must sound “American,” and must speak white standard English); in scrutiny (black employees are monitored more closely and face more penalties as a result); and in attitudes toward timeliness and work style.

Author and grassroots activist adrienne maree brown says, “what we pay attention to grows.” We must broaden our perspective to include but also go beyond typical discussions of employment discrimination focused on obvious issues, such as workplace microaggressions and discriminatory hiring and firing practices. We need to expand our attention toward addressing more subtle barriers, from using biased hiring metrics to the acceptance of some work styles over others. Only then will we begin to address the damage done by the biased forms of professionalism that dominate workplaces in the United States and other white-majority countries.

https://ssir.org/articles/entry/the_bias_of_professionalism_standards

From the Stanford Social Innovation Review

[Raven Fan 362]

Just now, jerryskids said:

https://ssir.org/articles/entry/the_bias_of_professionalism_standards

From the Stanford Social Innovation Review

Oh snap, not the Stanford Social Innovation Review!  Written by 1 person in 2019.  Why did Trump cause this kind of thinking to start?  Heck, I'd think in almost 5 years since the article that every school in every state is teaching this now, right?

I didn't realize how far this had infiltrated our country!  Next it will show up as an oped in the Baltimore Bee and you'll know we're all cooked.

LMFAO

[Dozer FBG 325]

2 hours ago, Voltaire said:

 

Alright, kindly drop the 'boyos' and the accusations of racism and maybe a reasonable discourse can be had.

This notion that math is racist or that minority kids shouldn't be expected to meet "higher standards" (higher standards = basic math competency that pretty much even the dumbest rockheads we went to High School with in the 1980s were able to achieve) is gaining traction. The way forward is to lower the standards so us math teachers aren't held accountable for turning out adults who can't figure out their mortgage or internet bill or how many shingles they need to buy to repair a roof, or read a floorplan, let alone design an airplane.

Here's what that looks like.   

https://www.campusreform.org/article/prof-algebra-geometry-perpetuate-white-privilege/10005

 

This sounds a little like The No Child Left Behind Act, that basically ended up lowering standards for all students, and had schools more concerned about the data they had to turn in the state instead of actual outcomes for students.

 

[5-Points 3,443]

12 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

https://ssir.org/articles/entry/the_bias_of_professionalism_standards

From the Stanford Social Innovation Review

"We are taught to identify  white supremacy with violent segregationist groups  such as the Ku Klux Klan and their modern-day equivalents"

 

What, exactly, is a modern day equivalent to the KKK?

BLM? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,159]

Don’t act white. It upsets people. 

[ROCK BOTTOM 58]

It's 2024.  Being white is bad.

[seafoam1 2,875]

1 minute ago, ROCK BOTTOM said:

It's 2024.  Being white is bad.

Whites Unite!!!

[Reality 3,121]

4 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

You guys need some hobbies

Sadly, this is it.

[TimHauck 2,685]

49 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

"We are taught to identify  white supremacy with violent segregationist groups  such as the Ku Klux Klan and their modern-day equivalents"

 

What, exactly, is a modern day equivalent to the KKK?

BLM? 

Doing a quick search, here appear to be a few:

Patriot Front

Vanguard America

National Justice Party

Rise Above Movement

National Socialist Legion

 

 

 

[Engorgeous George 2,245]

14 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Doing a quick search, here appear to be a few:

Patriot Front

Vanguard America

National Justice Party

Rise Above Movement

National Socialist Legion

 

 

 

Do you recommend any one over the others?

[Engorgeous George 2,245]

16 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Doing a quick search, here appear to be a few:

Patriot Front

Vanguard America

National Justice Party

Rise Above Movement

National Socialist Legion

 

 

 

I just read an article about the Free Masons and the Klan.  the article staterd the Klan frequently met at masonic lodges and that the membership between the two in some areas was a unified set.   

[Cdub100 3,878]

17 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Doing a quick search, here appear to be a few:

Patriot Front

Vanguard America

National Justice Party

Rise Above Movement

National Socialist Legion

 

 

 

Genetic fallacy
Fallacy of irrelevance that is based solely on someone's or something's history, origin, or source rather than its current meaning or context
The genetic fallacy (also known as the fallacy of origins or fallacy of virtue) is a fallacy of irrelevance in which arguments or information are dismissed or validated based solely on their source of origin rather than their content.

[seafoam1 2,875]

20 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Doing a quick search, here appear to be a few:

Patriot Front

Vanguard America

National Justice Party

Rise Above Movement

National Socialist Legion

 

 

 

BLM? ANTIFA?

[TimHauck 2,685]

8 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Do you recommend any one over the others?

National Justice Party appears to have been recently disbanded, so not that one I guess 

[Engorgeous George 2,245]

Just now, TimHauck said:

National Justice Party appears to have been recently disbanded, so not that one I guess 

But it sounds like all they were seeking was justice.  I suppose it is just possible that their definition of jsutice might be controversial.

[TimHauck 2,685]

5 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Genetic fallacy
Fallacy of irrelevance that is based solely on someone's or something's history, origin, or source rather than its current meaning or context
The genetic fallacy (also known as the fallacy of origins or fallacy of virtue) is a fallacy of irrelevance in which arguments or information are dismissed or validated based solely on their source of origin rather than their content.

Are you a member of one of the groups I listed?

[seafoam1 2,875]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Are you a member of one of the groups I listed?

Your opinion makes your question moot. 

Because you are wrong with what you say. 

[TimHauck 2,685]

Definitely sounds like something @Cdub100 would write

 

 

[seafoam1 2,875]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Definitely sounds like something @Cdub100 would write

 

 

Sounds like something you liberals would whine about. 

[Cdub100 3,878]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Definitely sounds like something @Cdub100 would write

 

 

Where's the lie?

[TimHauck 2,685]

6 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Where's the lie?

National Justice Party it is.  Sorry to hear about the recent disbanding, hopefully you’ve found a new white supremacist group to join instead.

But to answer your question, there is no racial component to qualifying for section 8 vouchers.

[seafoam1 2,875]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

National Justice Party it is.  Sorry to hear about the recent disbanding, hopefully you’ve found a new white supremacist group to join instead.

But to answer your question, there is no racial component to qualifying for section 8 vouchers.

I embrace racism. Being inclusive means everyone's point is valid. AmIRight?

[TimHauck 2,685]

48 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Where's the lie?

Here’s the backstory behind that btw

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/07/07/texas-hoas-housing-section-8/

Remember when the GC said there isn’t systemic racism against blacks currently? Good times 

[Cdub100 3,878]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Here’s the backstory behind that btw

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/07/07/texas-hoas-housing-section-8/

Remember when the GC said there isn’t systemic racism against blacks currently? Good times 

Bro I don't care. You seem to think I'm on the front lines fighting. I'm not I've given up on white people. In fact, I'm voting to make things worse. I want diversity everywhere. Especially in Conservative GOP republican areas. I want all white people to wonder why everything at their local CVS is behind plexiglass. Why the self-check out is gone. Why their children get beat up at school. Why they have to lock their doors at night and get their cars broken into all the time. I want Homeless drug users on every corner. I want white neighborhoods to look like they do in South Africa high fencing with razor wire all around. 

Diversity is our strength

[5-Points 3,443]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Doing a quick search, here appear to be a few:

Patriot Front

Vanguard America

National Justice Party

Rise Above Movement

National Socialist Legion

 

 

 

 at Patriot Front. 

Which of those groups are lynching people today? 

 

[TimHauck 2,685]

14 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

 at Patriot Front. 

Which of those groups are lynching people today? 

 

Step 1.  It’s not happening

[5-Points 3,443]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

It’s not happening

Exactly. 

[5-Points 3,443]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Step 1.  It’s not happening

Step 2. Make believe it is so simple minded morons have something to fear. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,159]

My the boogaloo boys have fallen. 

[jerryskids 6,673]

3 hours ago, Raven Fan said:

Oh snap, not the Stanford Social Innovation Review!  Written by 1 person in 2019.  Why did Trump cause this kind of thinking to start?  Heck, I'd think in almost 5 years since the article that every school in every state is teaching this now, right?

I didn't realize how far this had infiltrated our country!  Next it will show up as an oped in the Baltimore Bee and you'll know we're all cooked.

LMFAO

Step 2:  It happens but it is rare

[TimHauck 2,685]

31 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Step 2. Make believe it is so simple minded morons have something to fear. 

Phew, good to know that since people aren’t getting hanged in public that means white supremacist groups are NBD

[seafoam1 2,875]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Phew, good to know that since people aren’t getting hanged in public that means white supremacist groups are NBD

Yeah cause a few people getting hanged in public is way worse than the 1000s getting shot in liberal run cities every focking day. 

 

[5-Points 3,443]

13 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Phew, good to know that since people aren’t getting hanged in public that means white supremacist groups are NBD

You need to brush up on your reading comprehension. 

What is the modern day "equivalent" to the KKK? 

If they aren't lynching people, burning crosses, terrorizing communities or voting democrat, they aren't equivalent to the KKK.

But you guys like to call people that disagree with your politics nazis, so your comparisons are meaningless. 

[TimHauck 2,685]

40 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

You need to brush up on your reading comprehension. 

What is the modern day "equivalent" to the KKK? 

If they aren't lynching people, burning crosses, terrorizing communities or voting democrat, they aren't equivalent to the KKK.

But you guys like to call people that disagree with your politics nazis, so your comparisons are meaningless. 

The Geek club: you call people Nazis that disagree with your politics, if they’re not putting people in ovens then they’re not Nazis

Also the Geek Club:  regularly called the left “brownshirts” during Covid restrictions

[5-Points 3,443]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The Geek club: you call people Nazis that disagree with your politics, if they’re not putting people in ovens then they’re not Nazis

Also the Geek Club:  regularly called the left “brownshirts” during Covid restrictions

Exactly