NFL 2022

[Big Guy 1,430]

46 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Well that was a bummer. Philly is good. Well coached, never hurt themselves. Fun year. And I can’t believe all the fake giant fans that were talking shite. Real ones knew better. 

that was a bummer, sorry man

[edjr 7,034]

Giants are who we thought they were. Not that good. 

lets go Cowboys!@

[Cruzer 1,996]

9 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Well that was a bummer. Philly is good. Well coached, never hurt themselves. Fun year. And I can’t believe all the fake giant fans that were talking shite. Real ones knew better. 

NY has nothing to be ashamed of. Team made huge strides and made it to the DIV round.

That being said, you guys are in spot that looks almost identical to what DAL faced a couple years ago with Dak and Zeke. Is Danny a franchise QB? Prolly not, but do you pay him? What's the alternative? You will be drafting 25th, no chance of landing a new QB there. Gonna trade for one, pick up one in FA? It's a tough spot - exactly what Jerry faced. Barkley? He's not gonna be cheap - paying RBs huge 2nd deal money is always dicey. 

[edjr 7,034]

1 minute ago, Cruzer said:

NY has nothing to be ashamed of. Team made huge strides and made it to the DIV round.

That being said, you guys are in spot that looks almost identical to what DAL faced a couple years ago with Dak and Zeke. Is Danny a franchise QB? Prolly not, but do you pay him? What's the alternative? You will be drafting 25th, no chance of landing a new QB there. Gonna trade for one, pick up one in FA? It's a tough spot - exactly what Jerry faced. Barkley? He's not gonna be cheap - paying RBs huge 2nd deal money is always dicey. 

  Danny boy ain't ever winning anything, maybe if he had the 2000 Ravens D

[Hardcore troubadour 16,038]

20 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

NY has nothing to be ashamed of. Team made huge strides and made it to the DIV round.

That being said, you guys are in spot that looks almost identical to what DAL faced a couple years ago with Dak and Zeke. Is Danny a franchise QB? Prolly not, but do you pay him? What's the alternative? You will be drafting 25th, no chance of landing a new QB there. Gonna trade for one, pick up one in FA? It's a tough spot - exactly what Jerry faced. Barkley? He's not gonna be cheap - paying RBs huge 2nd deal money is always dicey. 

I don’t think DJ can ask for the contract that Dak did.  Dak was more successful when he got his new deal. Need a top flight WR and interior line upgrade on offense and a whole new LB corp on D. Barkley will be interesting I agree. 

[cmh6476 1,154]

40 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

NY has nothing to be ashamed of. Team made huge strides and made it to the DIV round.

That being said, you guys are in spot that looks almost identical to what DAL faced a couple years ago with Dak and Zeke. Is Danny a franchise QB? Prolly not, but do you pay him? What's the alternative? You will be drafting 25th, no chance of landing a new QB there. Gonna trade for one, pick up one in FA? It's a tough spot - exactly what Jerry faced. Barkley? He's not gonna be cheap - paying RBs huge 2nd deal money is always dicey. 

Same with the jags.  Talking to the fans at the game yesterday, they expected to lose and were just happy to be there

[League Champion 1,926]

38 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

That being said, you guys are in spot that looks almost identical to what DAL faced a couple years ago with Dak and Zeke. Is Danny a franchise QB? Prolly not, but do you pay him? What's the alternative? You will be drafting 25th, no chance of landing a new QB there. Gonna trade for one, pick up one in FA? It's a tough spot - exactly what Jerry faced. Barkley? He's not gonna be cheap - paying RBs huge 2nd deal money is always dicey

I feel like they have to resign Jones, what's the alternative? It may ultimately be a mistake but it's probably the right call today. 

Saquon, He's amazing but am I giving a RB a long term deal, hell no! Especially with all the holes they need to fill. 

[nobody 2,930]

14 minutes ago, League Champion said:

I feel like they have to resign Jones, what's the alternative? It may ultimately be a mistake but it's probably the right call today. 

The alternative is bottom out instead of being mired in mediocrity for 3 years because the team is in cap hell.

[Louie Kelcher 97]

8 minutes ago, League Champion said:

I feel like they have to resign Jones, what's the alternative? It may ultimately be a mistake but it's probably the right call today. 

Saquon, He's amazing but am I giving a RB a long term deal, hell no! Especially with all the holes they need to fill. 

They should resign Jones, he's a franchise QB and proved it this season.  I would also resign Barkley as he's the heart of this offense, not a Zeke type deal but something fair, he should come back.

Ultimately I trust Joe Schoen based on what he did his first year here.  I met Joe over the summer, school his hand and looked him in the eye, he's a good dude.  I thanked him for turning the team around and he said, "well we haven't even played a game yet so hold off on the thanks"

I'm optimistic for next year for the first time in years.

And yeah, fock the eagles.  Go niners

[Hardcore troubadour 16,038]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

The alternative is bottom out instead of being mired in mediocrity for 3 years because the team is in cap hell.

The Giants aren’t in cap hell

[Hardcore troubadour 16,038]

1 minute ago, Louie Kelcher said:

They should resign Jones, he's a franchise QB and proved it this season.  I would also resign Barkley as he's the heart of this offense, not a Zeke type deal but something fair, he should come back.

Ultimately I trust Joe Schoen based on what he did his first year here.  I met Joe over the summer, school his hand and looked him in the eye, he's a good dude.  I thanked him for turning the team around and he said, "well we haven't even played a game yet so hold off on the thanks"

I'm optimistic for next year for the first time in years.

And yeah, fock the eagles.  Go niners

Mush

[nobody 2,930]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

The Giants aren’t in cap hell

Oh okay.  Then I guess it makes sense to give Daniel Jones $35M a year. 

[Louie Kelcher 97]

3 minutes ago, nobody said:

The alternative is bottom out instead of being mired in mediocrity for 3 years because the team is in cap hell.

You're the last person that should talk about this since you have no idea how the salary cap even works.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,038]

Just now, nobody said:

Oh okay.  Then I guess it makes sense to give Daniel Jones $35M a year. 

 

1 minute ago, nobody said:

Oh okay.  Then I guess it makes sense to give Daniel Jones $35M a year. 

They won’t  be in cap hell if they pay DJ. 

[League Champion 1,926]

3 minutes ago, Louie Kelcher said:

They should resign Jones, he's a franchise QB and proved it this season.  I would also resign Barkley as he's the heart of this offense, not a Zeke type deal but something fair, he should come back.

And that's why they're in this position to begin with. I would also extend Kenny Golladay while you're at it.

[nobody 2,930]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 

They won’t  be in cap hell if they pay DJ. 

Yes they will.  Paying an average QB like he's elite hamstrings teams. 

[nobody 2,930]

I guess people haven't figured out the nfc east had the easiest schedules in the league and that makes them look better than they are.  

[Hardcore troubadour 16,038]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

Yes they will.  Paying an average QB like he's elite hamstrings teams. 

He’s a tweener. Not elite, not average. You can win with him. 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,038]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

I guess people haven't figured out the nfc east had the easiest schedules in the league and that makes them look better than they are.  

This is true. But the Giants of the prior years weren’t even beating the shite teams they played. 

[nobody 2,930]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He’s a tweener. Not elite, not average. You can win with him. 

Yeah, you can win 9 games a year.

[Louie Kelcher 97]

9 minutes ago, League Champion said:

And that's why they're in this position to begin with. I would also extend Kenny Golladay while you're at it.

No it's not.  They have a poverty roster because gentleman joined in "win now" mode and handed out dumb contracts like solder and golladay. It's not Barkley's fault.

Golladay will be cut

[Cruzer 1,996]

On 1/22/2023 at 9:46 AM, League Champion said:

I feel like they have to resign Jones, what's the alternative? It may ultimately be a mistake but it's probably the right call today. 

Saquon, He's amazing but am I giving a RB a long term deal, hell no! Especially with all the holes they need to fill. 

You are dead balls on. Everyone and their dog says not to resign mediocre qbs - cool I get it, sound plan. Problem is the alternative is damn near as bad. 

When you move on from a QB you have 3 basic options: draft a new kid, trade for one or sign in in FA. 

QBs aren't RBs, there's not 10 coming out every year who can step right in and be just fine. NY will be drafting towards the bottom of the 2023 draft - chances of finding one there is almost zero. Ok, so gonna trade for one? Who you gonna go get? Anyone worth a fock is gonna cost you out the ass. Wiling to give up 1st and 2nd rounders for a dude nobody is really sure of either? Then you're left with signing one via FA. Name the cheap ass FA QB who you're willing to pay - Lamar, Brady, Jimmy G, Baker, Geno Smith? There's a reason these dudes are gonna be free - and some won't come cheap either. 

Not as simple or cut and dry and all want to believe. 

[Big Guy 1,430]

If only the Giants had some WR like Toney that plays for the Chiefs

 

seriously though, I knew he was going to be good when he was with them, what happened?

[Hardcore troubadour 16,038]

5 minutes ago, Big Guy said:

If only the Giants had some WR like Toney that plays for the Chiefs

 

seriously though, I knew he was going to be good when he was with them, what happened?

Well, he showed up for his first camp and couldn’t practice because his cleats didn’t fit. Then he was “hurt” all the time. And he was a lockeroom cancer more concerned with his rap career than rehabbing his phantom injury. They tried with him. He didn’t. So they got what they could and moved on. Some guys aren’t a fit. He’ll probably do fine with an all world QB. 

[Big Guy 1,430]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Well, he showed up for his first camp and couldn’t practice because his cleats didn’t fit. Then he was “hurt” all the time. And he was a lockeroom cancer more concerned with his rap career than rehabbing his phantom injury. They tried with him. He didn’t. So they got what they could and moved on. Some guys aren’t a fit. He’ll probably do fine with an all world QB. 

wow, yep

thanks

[Louie Kelcher 97]

Toney wasn't a locker room cancer with the giants.  He was well liked by his teammates.  They tried real hard to make him part of the team, everything from playing his music during practice to having designed plays for him.  There were several problems though.  He never fully bought in.  He was hurt and never fully tried to get healthy, he showed a lack of effort and understanding throughout this season, never gave it his all.  Plus he was drafted by the old GM, and the new GM drafted a player with similar skill set.

I don't believe that toney will ever be a consistently productive player in this league, with the chiefs or elsewhere.

[MDC 8,087]

Yung Joka keepin it real.

[cmh6476 1,154]

On 12/12/2022 at 11:02 AM, cmh6476 said:

1. Chiefs

2. Bengals

3. Bills

4. Titans

5. Ravens

6. Chargers

7. Dolphins

Chiefs > Ravens, Bills > Bengals

Chiefs > Bills

1. Eagles

2. Vikings

3. 49ers

4. Bucs

5. Cowboys

6. Seahawks

7. Redskins

Eagles > Cowboys, 49ers > Vkings

Eagles > 49ers

Chiefs > Eagles

 

 

 

Not a bad take for over a month and a half ago. 

[cmh6476 1,154]

On 8/25/2022 at 9:23 PM, MDC said:

I just can’t buy into the Eagles as a true contender but they’ll be better. All the attention is on AJ Green but the D got better at all three levels. I’ll say 10-7 and maybe they win a playoff game. I think Philly is looking for a new QB next year but I hope I’m wrong.

I think you are wrong. 

[cmh6476 1,154]

On 8/25/2022 at 9:37 PM, shorepatrol said:

Trey Lance is hot garbage. Purdy will be the starter sooner than later if Jimmy is released. Thanks for wasting a SB roster Lynch. GO FOCK YOURSELF

Interesting preseason take. 

[MDC 8,087]

2 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

I think you are wrong. 

I was!  

[cmh6476 1,154]

On 9/12/2022 at 2:06 PM, cmh6476 said:

It should be a close game.  Chargers could win.  After that they have:

Jax

@ Hou

Cle

Den

Sea

Bye

@ Atl

If they aren't 6-2, or at a minimum 5-3 then something is wrong.  You should be used to this by now though, often regular season champs (at least until Mahomes arrived), then choke in the playoffs.  

Nailed this one

[cmh6476 1,154]

On 9/12/2022 at 2:46 PM, cmh6476 said:

What I've been most impressed with by the Chiefs is how they basically turned entire units around in an offseason.

Two years ago the offensive line was the weakest link, they go trade for Orlando Brown, sign Thuney via free agency, and nail the Humphrey and Smith draft picks and the o-line is now a strength.  The Bengals had the same issue last year and tried to upgrade in the offseason and if you watched the game yesterday you couldn't tell.

This year it's basically the receiving unit and secondary after Hill and Mathieu leave.  Yet looking at the Smith-Schuster and MVS additions along with rookie Skyy Moore, and what the Chiefs did with acquiring Justin Reid and the rookie corners they selected and these units played at an extremely high level last year.

Having Mahomes will get you so far, but it only gets you so far.  Team strength is extremely important, and IMO the Chiefs are doing as well as anyone fielding a top notch roster across positions.

Man I'm a smart, in tune homer

[cmh6476 1,154]

Nailed the Chiefs over eagles, and 3 of four conference championship teams in mid December

[cmh6476 1,154]

It finally feels like this season is over and what a great one it was.   Every single bit of chiefs attire is dirty and time to do laundry.   Yesterday was nuts, people more jam-packed than you can believe, cold, wet but it was great.   Two ladies about got into a fight in front of me, and it went something like this:

Smaller drunk girl bumps into my buddy trying to get through.   He let's her pass but there we two sisters in front of us enjoying their day, and drunk girl belly bumps one of them to get past.

"You can say excuse me!!"

 

" excuse me, KAREN!"

the sister proceeds to put her stuff down and I'm about to see them throw down.   Didn't happen but fock what a sh1tshow.  I don't see how people think it's a good idea to bring kids and strollers, but they do. 

 

Now we have an entire off- season to enjoy it.   And the draft kicking off in kc in just a couple months.   

 

The players kept bringing up how this was a rebuilding year for kc.  I wish every year was a rebuilding year.   Time to run it back. 

[cmh6476 1,154]

Also, working hard on an angle to join the Chiefs on their white house visit

[JustinCharge 2,397]

On 1/25/2023 at 8:55 PM, Cruzer said:

You are dead balls on. Everyone and their dog says not to resign mediocre qbs - cool I get it, sound plan. Problem is the alternative is damn near as bad. 

When you move on from a QB you have 3 basic options: draft a new kid, trade for one or sign in in FA. 

QBs aren't RBs, there's not 10 coming out every year who can step right in and be just fine. NY will be drafting towards the bottom of the 2023 draft - chances of finding one there is almost zero. Ok, so gonna trade for one? Who you gonna go get? Anyone worth a fock is gonna cost you out the ass. Wiling to give up 1st and 2nd rounders for a dude nobody is really sure of either? Then you're left with signing one via FA. Name the cheap ass FA QB who you're willing to pay - Lamar, Brady, Jimmy G, Baker, Geno Smith? There's a reason these dudes are gonna be free - and some won't come cheap either. 

Not as simple or cut and dry and all want to believe. 

there is a real chance the #1 overall pick will be traded in the 2023 draft.  if im the giants, i send a boatload of picks to the bears to get it.  losing a lot of picks isnt as bad as you might think.  especially with a talented head coach thats only 47.  rip the band aid off, get it done early in the head coaches career.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,038]

4 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

there is a real chance the #1 overall pick will be traded in the 2023 draft.  if im the giants, i send a boatload of picks to the bears to get it.  losing a lot of picks isnt as bad as you might think.  especially with a talented head coach thats only 47.  rip the band aid off, get it done early in the head coaches career.

No thanks. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

45 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No thanks. 

drafting a qb top 5 has about a 50% succes rate.  outside of that quickly drops to about 1 in 30.  the last place you wanna be is constantly taking qbs in late round 1 to round 3 for 15 years and suddenly reaizing you just wasted an excellent head coach.  some people get caught up in the mahomes or wilson scenarios and forget all of the faliures drafted in that area.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,038]

9 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

drafting a qb top 5 has about a 50% succes rate.  outside of that quickly drops to about 1 in 30.  the last place you wanna be is constantly taking qbs in late round 1 to round 3 for 15 years and suddenly reaizing you just wasted an excellent head coach.  some people get caught up in the mahomes or wilson scenarios and forget all of the faliures drafted in that area.

Those are some great stats. But I’ll go ahead and judge the specific team we are talking about.