Cancel Bud Light! Maga Hissy Fit!

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

It is easy. I stopped using Gillette products entirely, and my kids are following suit.  They see what I do and also do the same. So the company did not merely lose me, but may have lost a couple generations. So the impact of their actions to play games with societal stuff might have a wider footprint. Same for Nike, I will not buy anything associated with them, if it can be avoided. 

When a company decides to wade into the poltical morass, regardless of why, they assume this risk. 

Bud Light is just one piece of a much larger entity, they can ride this out. It would seem that they do not care as well I might note, they are trying to unwind the egregious nature of their violations, but we all know what happens when you try to tread the middle....

Have you looked to see if your other favorite brands are involved or not or do you just follow what the media says to boycott?  That's really my main point.  A lot of people have no idea what their favorite brands are affiliated with but follow along with whatever boycott is trending at the time.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,956]

InBev stock down ten dollars a share since this thread started. 52 week average! 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Have you looked to see if your other favorite brands are involved or not or do you just follow what the media says to boycott?  That's really my main point.  A lot of people have no idea what their favorite brands are affiliated with but follow along with whatever boycott is trending at the time.

I have and still do. My kid is at the Academy right now, and they are preparing to receive plebes this week so she needed some supplies, disposable razors among them....so I disregarded all Gillette products out of the gate, then with those that remained I did a quick search to ensure I did not buy some other brand that was still Gillette, such is my committment to protect my kids from the vile nature of these marxist (woke) ideology. 

[Sean Mooney 1,948]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

InBev stock down ten dollars a share since this thread started. 52 week average! 

Yes one quarter is all you should look at performance wise.

Idiot. 

[RogerDodger 797]

25 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It's easy to boycott things you don't like or use.  Is it even a boycott then?

I own voting shares of goog. There are many ways, the easiest is just making a mental list to avoid companies you dont need to deal with. 

[RogerDodger 797]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Yes one quarter is all you should look at performance wise.

Idiot. 

Stock advise from the teachers lounge.

[Gladiators 1,964]

Has BL rebounded, or are the bored lefties still worked up over BL boycotts?

[Sean Mooney 1,948]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

I have and still do. My kid is at the Academy right now, and they are preparing to receive plebes this week so she needed some supplies, disposable razors among them....so I disregarded all Gillette products out of the gate, then with those that remained I did a quick search to ensure I did not buy some other brand that was still Gillette, such is my committment to protect my kids from the vile nature of these marxist (woke) ideology. 

I think Hawkeye's point is- organizations give money to many causes. Are you sure that everything you use is not giving money to causes you disagree with or are you (not you specifically- more as a general "you") just following what the main causes to fight against are in the news. 

[Sean Mooney 1,948]

1 minute ago, RogerDodger said:

Stock advise from the teachers lounge.

Better than stock advice from the dude who thinks you have to answer a door if someone rings the bell 

[RogerDodger 797]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

Better than stock advice from the dude who thinks you have to answer a door if someone rings the bell 

We could compare portfolios.  You're a poor. 

[Sean Mooney 1,948]

Just now, RogerDodger said:

We could compare portfolios.  You're a poor. 

Which identity of yours must someone compare portfolios with?

Either way- I do well 

[RLLD 4,143]

5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I think Hawkeye's point is- organizations give money to many causes. Are you sure that everything you use is not giving money to causes you disagree with or are you (not you specifically- more as a general "you") just following what the main causes to fight against are in the news. 

I have causes I care about more than others, I accept that a company is going to pander to its customers in a variety of ways and means. And I will likely not agree with all of their movements to harvest money under the guise of social caring.... but where do I stand firm, where are the lines, that is for me to know and act on. 

By way of example, I assiduously oppose murder, but I allow for abortions because I see them as a societal good. I know this is a hypocrital way of dealing with this, and I have reconciled this with myself. While I actively avoid being hypocritical, I accept that it will happen, but I will work to stay as honest to a position as I can.

[RogerDodger 797]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I think Hawkeye's point is- organizations give money to many causes. Are you sure that everything you use is not giving money to causes you disagree with or are you (not you specifically- more as a general "you") just following what the main causes to fight against are in the news. 

The ones you know about. Adjust as you go. It's not that hard dummy. Such an intellectual fallacy trying to paint the picture that you cant really boycott everything you dont know about so it's not working. You have infant brain.  

[RogerDodger 797]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Which identity of yours must someone compare portfolios with?

Either way- I do well 

Teacher salary.

[Sean Mooney 1,948]

9 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I have causes I care about more than others, I accept that a company is going to pander to its customers in a variety of ways and means. And I will likely not agree with all of their movements to harvest money under the guise of social caring.... but where do I stand firm, where are the lines, that is for me to know and act on. 

By way of example, I assiduously oppose murder, but I allow for abortions because I see them as a societal good. I know this is a hypocrital way of dealing with this, and I have reconciled this with myself. While I actively avoid being hypocritical, I accept that it will happen, but I will work to stay as honest to a position as I can.

That's reasonable. I also appreciate you can admittedly see hypocritical thinking in it and not view it as a flaw in the system. Your opinion on this is far more nuanced than many in the thread here view it. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said:

Who said anyone was getting canceled? Canceling is dumb and what lefties go for.  No one (well I am sure someone out there) is saying Bud Light should disband.

 

On 5/25/2023 at 9:49 AM, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m about to allow Bud products back into my home. But not Bud light. That brand must be sacrificed as a symbol.  

 

[Sean Mooney 1,948]

10 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

The ones you know about. Adjust as you go. It's not that hard dummy. Such an intellectual fallacy trying to paint the picture that you cant really boycott everything you dont know about so it's not working. You have infant brain.  

You are a child and are missing the point of what people are saying and doing the typical thing around here of adding things to what someone says. Maybe your other identity would've do that. . RLLD is an adult in this. Maybe you could try it. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

24 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I have and still do. My kid is at the Academy right now, and they are preparing to receive plebes this week so she needed some supplies, disposable razors among them....so I disregarded all Gillette products out of the gate, then with those that remained I did a quick search to ensure I did not buy some other brand that was still Gillette, such is my committment to protect my kids from the vile nature of these marxist (woke) ideology. 

What did Gilette do?

[BuckSwope 654]

59 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Not really.  If you go to the SPCA because you want to rescue poor animals with no homes....why would you only take one? Oh 10 isn't feasible for your situation?   Understandable.   At least take 4 of them tho.  If you are out to save animals.  Right?  Selective virtue signaling by only taking 1 animal when you have space for 8?

People are rolling with bud light because it has worked.  Not every little brand will work.  It is that simple.  

We can disagree, you make a valid point, but I still think it's largely performative because IMO if you only have the capacity for limited boycotts, why wouldn't you try to make it an effective one?  WTF is just not drinking Bud Light do to the Busch company overall?  Why not boycott the whole company or maybe choose a different company who backs these woke things that might be bigger - say, Amazon from Hawks' example of who was sponsoring that Pride parade.  

Mixed in with what you are saying is also a big time dose of just doing what's easy, what others are doing, and something that you can get likes on SM about, but at the end doesn't do a whole lot and is pretty inconsistently applied.  

[BuckSwope 654]

53 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It's easy to boycott things you don't like or use.  Is it even a boycott then?

And also in comes the profit motive in his post, which is what people largely really care about anyway.   

 

[BuckSwope 654]

9 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

What did Gilette do?

Most of the links I saw pointed to THIS. 

 

 

[RLLD 4,143]

9 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

What did Gilette do?

Ahhh Gilette.....they produced a commercial to pander to the "Me too" movement some time ago, and thought they could vilify white men exclusively as being sexual predators. While predatory men do exist, and are certainly not exclusive to "white" men, they are not the norm nor are they what was portrayed.  It was a misstep and it cost them. It cost them me, and I am just one of many who walked away. Their mistake is now the source of business school review, so others can learn from it. 

[RLLD 4,143]

2 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Most of the links I saw pointed to THIS. 

 

 

That one does not bother me too much, I think it was applied far better than the other one..... 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

4 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Most of the links I saw pointed to THIS. 

 

 

Yeah this was all I knew and thought it was a positive, unless of course you condone toxic behavior.  I didn't know they called white men rapists, would like to see that if anyone can produce it.

[listen2me 23 1,831]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

Yeah this was all I knew and thought it was a positive, unless of course you condone toxic behavior.  I didn't know they called white men rapists, would like to see that if anyone can produce it.

Lol.  Was gonna make a throw away joke that you were one of the few men who really enjoyed the commercial.   But you beat me to it.  

[BuckSwope 654]

6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Ahhh Gilette.....they produced a commercial to pander to the "Me too" movement some time ago, and thought they could vilify white men exclusively as being sexual predators. While predatory men do exist, and are certainly not exclusive to "white" men, they are not the norm nor are they what was portrayed.  It was a misstep and it cost them. It cost them me, and I am just one of many who walked away. Their mistake is now the source of business school review, so others can learn from it. 

This I can understand a lot more than the Bud Light dumbness.  For starters, it sounds like you put some thought into it, but also it sounds like you have stopped using Gillette's products in whole.   Mostly what I found silly was the boycott of Bud Light, but not A-B as a company.   

WTF does is do to them if somebody stops drinking Bud Light but still gives their money to the company through other products?  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

7 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Lol.  Was gonna make a throw away joke that you were one of the few men who really enjoyed the commercial.   But you beat me to it.  

Yeah it's hilarious right?  Me actually promoting positive male behavior, lol.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,956]

It’s good to see. Let it be a lesson to the next would be Bud Light.  That’s the point. 

[listen2me 23 1,831]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

Yeah it's hilarious right?  Me actually promoting positive male behavior, lol.

Lol

Yeah man thats it.   Promote away!   

Start with yourself.  Quit calling people "retards".  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Lol

Yeah man thats it.   Promote away!   

Start with yourself.  Quit calling people "retards".  

Valid point, maybe I'll stop, but this is a FF message board where we can be brash and say things we normally wouldn't say.

So you have a problem with Gilette's message of being better men?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,956]

14 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Yeah it's hilarious right?  Me actually promoting positive male behavior, lol.

This guy.  Gets drunk and plays shoot ‘em up video games while conversing with his knows who on line when he does it and he thinks he’s a role model.  Lol.  

[Sean Mooney 1,948]

17 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

This I can understand a lot more than the Bud Light dumbness.  For starters, it sounds like you put some thought into it, but also it sounds like you have stopped using Gillette's products in whole.   Mostly what I found silly was the boycott of Bud Light, but not A-B as a company.   

WTF does is do to them if somebody stops drinking Bud Light but still gives their money to the company through other products?  

It's just dumb people trying to feel good about themselves by caving to the winds of their political side.

I mean HT said in this thread:

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"I’m good with buying other AB products now that they have bent the knee, but bud light has to be sacrificed on principle"

That'll show InBev. "I won't buy Bud Light but I'll buy some other product they make." 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,956]

Bud light must remain down. I don’t want innocent , hard working employees of AB to lose jobs. I’m good like that. 

[listen2me 23 1,831]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

Valid point, maybe I'll stop, but this is a FF message board where we can be brash and say things we normally wouldn't say.

So you have a problem with Gilette's message of being better men?

A better man? No.  The tone of their message and the visuals they used? Yeah.  It is over the top.  

When rap in the 90s talked about slapping women, calling them hoes, homophobic slurs all over, killing people who disrespected them....ect ect ect

The toxic masculinity yellers were no where to be found.  

Now a days it is obviously an agenda against white straight males.  

Give me like 3 examples of "toxic masculinity".  

Back in the day was just called being a good person or being an azzhole.  But these trendy phrases catch on now with people like you and the single liberal women.  

[BuckSwope 654]

3 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

A better man? No.  The tone of their message and the visuals they used? Yeah.  It is over the top.  

When rap in the 90s talked about slapping women, calling them hoes, homophobic slurs all over, killing people who disrespected them....ect ect ect

The toxic masculinity yellers were no where to be found.  

Now a days it is obviously an agenda against white straight males.  

Give me like 3 examples of "toxic masculinity".  

Back in the day was just called being a good person or being an azzhole.  But these trendy phrases catch on now with people like you and the single liberal women.  

you have a point.   Maybe know you can see how funny "save the kids" sounds to some people after those yellers were nowhere to be found during decades of sex abuse scandals and school shootings.    Didn't hear that fire up until the Drag Queens showed up on the SM feeds.  

It's almost as though both parties and people in general are mostly full of sh1t, and fishing for likes online.    

[Hardcore troubadour 14,956]

On 4/24/2023 at 8:40 AM, Sean Mooney said:

On March 31st- Anheuser Busch closed at 66.72 per share. Then Mulvaney happened. Conservatives lost their mind. Snowflakes started shooting beer cans and saying "NOT MAH LITE BEER!!" Articles were written saying "5 billion in market cap lost)...People pushed back thinking they had to protect LGBTQ and calling people hate filled and all that.

 

Meanwhile- in the stock world Anheuser Busch is in pre-trading today at 65.90 per share. That means that roughly their market cap on March 31st was 116,092,800,000. Their market cap once the day opens will be 114,666,000,000. That is a difference now of 1,426,800,000

 

So it looks like the outrage on this lasted about 3 weeks as Anheuser Busch has pretty much almost closed the gap back to where they were. It should also be noted too that last year at this time they were trading at 59.56 a share so they are up ~11 billion in market cap this year. Three years ago (of course about 6 weeks into the pandemic) they were trading at 41.91 per share. So their market cap over the 3 year window is up about 42 billion. 

Just a simple reminder- the market ebbs and flows and does not kowtow to the whims of angry mobs of people on the Internet. Money is money to Wall Street.

3 weeks! People pushed  back to protect lgbtq! . Mooney just making shitt up.  This thread is awesome. 

[Sean Mooney 1,948]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

3 weeks! People pushed  back to protect lgbtq! . Mooney just making shitt up.  This thread is awesome. 

So much of what I said was accurate in that and yes their stock has dropped back some (ironically their stock tends to drop during the summer most years).

Thanks for reposting all the things I was accurate about. I'm glad I don't have to continually do it. 

[listen2me 23 1,831]

8 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

you have a point.   Maybe know you can see how funny "save the kids" sounds to some people after those yellers were nowhere to be found during decades of sex abuse scandals and school shootings.    Didn't hear that fire up until the Drag Queens showed up on the SM feeds.  

It's almost as though both parties and people in general are mostly full of sh1t, and fishing for likes online.    

People didn't voluntarily take kids to priests and ask for their genitals to be examined.  Nothing was normalized.  It was predatory.  The church got plenty pf backlash from what I recall.  Maybe no tagline "save the kids"

Today society is so PC that they feel the need to normalize men dressing as women and waving their dongs around on a float.  Many people think it is perfectly fine for children.  Some trans have canceled events because children weren't allowed to come. 

I understand your point tho and mildly agree with it.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,956]

8 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

So much of what I said was accurate in that and yes their stock has dropped back some (ironically their stock tends to drop during the summer most years).

Thanks for reposting all the things I was accurate about. I'm glad I don't have to continually do it. 

Yeah man, your analysis has shown to be spot on. One question though, where did you get that info that people had rallied around Bud Light?

[BuckSwope 654]

24 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

It's just dumb people trying to feel good about themselves by caving to the winds of their political side.

I mean HT said in this thread:

That'll show InBev. "I won't buy Bud Light but I'll buy some other product they make." 

What this half-a$$ed boycott does is still give the companies their money through other products dopes like HT are still buying, but allows their "woke" product to pick up possible new users in the process.    Maybe it doesn't work, maybe it does for some.    But if you truly find what they did with Bud Light bad enough to boycott, I just don't get the point of just doing Bud Light.   Stop buying their products if it's that important and move on with your day.