BuckSwope 654 Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: I presume that emotions are, like many things we discuss, some combination of nature and nurture. We certainly have a history of teaching boys to "be a man" and "suck it up", but that is likely in part because we are predisposed to not show weakness, lest another male act on that weakness. That being said, I don't have the numbers handy but IIRC many more men than women commit suicide. It would be good to get a handle on that. I could be wrong, but I think it's accurate women attempt more but men are more successful. Access to guns at a higher rate = higher success rate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,570 Posted June 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: I could be wrong, but I think it's accurate women attempt more but men are more successful. Access to guns at a higher rate = higher success rate. Figures. Women can't do anything right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted June 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: I could be wrong, but I think it's accurate women attempt more but men are more successful. Access to guns at a higher rate = higher success rate. Last I checked women can purchase guns as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,591 Posted June 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, DonS said: Last I checked women can purchase guns as well. Nah. We had the option of giving them the right to vote or the right to buy guns. We chose wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted June 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, DonS said: Last I checked women can purchase guns as well. They can, they just don't own them at near the same rate. It's an impulse act. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted June 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: They can, they just don't own them at near the same rate. It's an impulse act. Or maybe women tend to attempt suicide as more of an attention getting thing so they choose less effective means? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted June 27, 2023 47 minutes ago, DonS said: Or maybe women tend to attempt suicide as more of an attention getting thing so they choose less effective means? Also a factor in some cases. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,513 Posted June 27, 2023 8 hours ago, BuckSwope said: Not because of you, dummy - you admitted to still buying their stuff. I guess because of people with actual convictions then? Buck Dope just making it up again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted June 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Buck Dope just making it up again. I'm pretty sure he's referring to when you stated the following: I’m about to allow Bud products back into my home. But not Bud light. That brand must be sacrificed as a symbol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,513 Posted June 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, DonS said: I'm pretty sure he's referring to when you stated the following: Letting someone bring it over does not mean that I bought anything. My beverages of choice are documented, well prior to Bud Light jumping off a cliff. They do not include Bud Light. The rare Bud is about it. Dope, like many others, is trying to make his bones around here by coming after me. I just wish he would be more interesting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,307 Posted June 28, 2023 7 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: You still seem unable to show me your examples of "toxic masculinity". Other than just being a run of the mill d bag. Actually ill give you a generic google. These wouldn't all necessarily be the ones I may use. But many of them seem to fit. Traditional Masculinity Examples You must be muscular. You must be a fighter. You must be assertive and firm. You must be financially well-off. You must not be a gossiper. You must be willing to make sacrifices. Boys don't cry. You must be honorable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,874 Posted June 28, 2023 13 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Let me google that for you https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db433.htm 2000 isn't the 70s. But seems like a steady rise. But even in the early 2000s parents teachers and coaches were all less forgiving. Mental health wasn't such a subject. And I doubt doctors shoved benzos down young people's throats at the rate they do today. Yet less rates of suicide. So not sure if being tougher on kids created anymore problem. Seems like the more coddling and sympathetic we get the rates have just risen. One can point to social media and I get that. But seems like the increase has been fairly steady from no social media to early social media to full blown everyones on social media. As we get more progressive as a society and more forgiving, it seems like people are less happy. Actual studies about some of this stuff would be interesting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 28, 2023 27 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: 2000 isn't the 70s. But seems like a steady rise. But even in the early 2000s parents teachers and coaches were all less forgiving. Mental health wasn't such a subject. And I doubt doctors shoved benzos down young people's throats at the rate they do today. Yet less rates of suicide. So not sure if being tougher on kids created anymore problem. Seems like the more coddling and sympathetic we get the rates have just risen. One can point to social media and I get that. But seems like the increase has been fairly steady from no social media to early social media to full blown everyones on social media. As we get more progressive as a society and more forgiving, it seems like people are less happy. Actual studies about some of this stuff would be interesting. If you're looking for studies on authoritative parenting style and its effects on kids, there are many many out there, and they mostly fall in the same conclusion, that it's detrimental to the child's mental health. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted June 28, 2023 I don't think I've seen an article about it that doesn't point to noticeable spikes in depression, suicide, loneliness, weight gain, etc.. correlating with cell phones, especially with the onset of social media and the first times they were readily in our pockets. Only going to get worse as more and more AI is introduced. I think people actually underestimate the damage that tech has done - just look around. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted June 28, 2023 There likely is a way to pander to these groups without p!ssing off your customer base, and the company that figures that out will certainly do well. I mean the marketing company. They need to evolve to be much better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, BuckSwope said: I don't think I've seen an article about it that doesn't point to noticeable spikes in depression, suicide, loneliness, weight gain, etc.. correlating with cell phones, especially with the onset of social media and the first times they were readily in our pockets. Only going to get worse as more and more AI is introduced. I think people actually underestimate the damage that tech has done - just look around. Maybe the movie WALL-E was a glimpse at our future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted June 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Maybe the movie WALL-E was a glimpse at our future. I don't think Her is far off either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 798 Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, GutterBoy said: If you're looking for studies on authoritative parenting style and its effects on kids, there are many many out there, and they mostly fall in the same conclusion, that it's detrimental to the child's mental health. Or they can look at people like you and see the alternative. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted June 28, 2023 14 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Letting someone bring it over does not mean that I bought anything. My beverages of choice are documented, well prior to Bud Light jumping off a cliff. They do not include Bud Light. The rare Bud is about it. Dope, like many others, is trying to make his bones around here by coming after me. I just wish he would be more interesting. "Letting someone bring it over." You are the biggest of douches. Your fake tough guy act is hilarious though considering it essentially means (much like Roger Horseman) that you are the biggest puzzy in real life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,513 Posted June 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: "Letting someone bring it over." You are the biggest of douches. Your fake tough guy act is hilarious though considering it essentially means (much like Roger Horseman) that you are the biggest puzzy in real life. Triggered. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted June 28, 2023 Parenting is tough, its challenging. I have a variety of kids and each one required a different set of skills and approach. Adapting your style and approach based on the needs of the kid is how it is done. If you want good results you have to really pour yourself into it. If you do not parent well your kids do poorly in school, they get arrested, they have kids too young and out of wedlock......and they blame everyone else for it..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 798 Posted June 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: "Letting someone bring it over." You are the biggest of douches. Your fake tough guy act is hilarious though considering it essentially means (much like Roger Horseman) that you are the biggest puzzy in real life. Free rent. Why bring me into your slap fight. Oh, summer planning time for life losers that became teachers. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted June 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Triggered. Lol. Just calling it as it is. In my time here I've seen you: - wish rape on a kid - pretend like you are a gangster in discussing a politics issue - say "If I allow people to bring Bud Light into my house" - "Bud Light needs to be sacrificed." You are just a real world puzzy and keyboard tough guy 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 798 Posted June 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: Just calling it as it is. In my time here I've seen you: - wish rape on a kid - pretend like you are a gangster in discussing a politics issue - say "If I allow people to bring Bud Light into my house" - "Bud Light needs to be sacrificed." You are just a real world puzzy and keyboard tough guy Oh no! Dont say Bud Light needs to be sacrificed! Were you wearing your Mulvaney dress when you typed that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted June 28, 2023 78 degrees and partly sunny at 07:40 hours. Retired guy here is going to go out and do some kayaking and maybe toss a line in the water as well. Sometimes I find perspective out there as well as lunch.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted June 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said: 78 degrees and partly sunny at 07:40 hours. Retired guy here is going to go out and do some kayaking and maybe toss a line in the water as well. Sometimes I find perspective out there as well as lunch.. Sounds like the perfect day for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,513 Posted June 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Just calling it as it is. In my time here I've seen you: - wish rape on a kid - pretend like you are a gangster in discussing a politics issue - say "If I allow people to bring Bud Light into my house" - "Bud Light needs to be sacrificed." You are just a real world puzzy and keyboard tough guy Mooney isn’t invited to the BBQ. Way too sensitive and humorless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,498 Posted June 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Just calling it as it is. In my time here I've seen you: - wish rape on a kid - pretend like you are a gangster in discussing a politics issue - say "If I allow people to bring Bud Light into my house" - "Bud Light needs to be sacrificed." You are just a real world puzzy and keyboard tough guy He also said my 10 year old son watches porn. Wut a creep. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,513 Posted June 28, 2023 1 minute ago, MDC said: He also said my 10 year old son watches porn. Wut a creep. You said you can’t do anything about kids watching porn. How would you know that? Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted June 28, 2023 1 minute ago, MDC said: He also said my 10 year old son watches porn. Wut a creep. He probably knows because he follows him online. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,513 Posted June 28, 2023 Buck Dope is so thirsty for some of my attention. Pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 283 Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, RLLD said: There likely is a way to pander to these groups without p!ssing off your customer base, and the company that figures that out will certainly do well. I mean the marketing company. They need to evolve to be much better. Marketing mistakes happen all the time be it big or small mistakes. This was a big one that cost an unheard of 30% market share drop. Not sure what the sales drop-off Coke had with new Coke but this has to be one of the biggest blunders of all time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted June 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said: Marketing mistakes happen all the time be it big or small mistakes. This was a big one that cost an unheard of 30% market share drop. Not sure what the sales drop-off Coke had with new Coke but this has to be one of the biggest blunders of all time. Agree. Whats done is done. Now the move should be to learn from it, and adjust. The problem faced is interesting, to me. It was absolutely a reasoned gamble to tout the trans mental illness dogma. I mean, think about it, most of the normal people just take it....they are living their lives, they shrug and get back to work. Its the radical crazies on the left....the trannies....and others.....who are virulent, violent and loud.....if you are doing the math, pandering to the crazies is a pretty safe bet. The misstep here was they they did it.....and then immediately impugned their traditional customers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 28, 2023 57 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: "Letting someone bring it over." You are the biggest of douches. Your fake tough guy act is hilarious though considering it essentially means (much like Roger Horseman) that you are the biggest puzzy in real life. He'll let someone bring over AB product, as long as they don't drink it while wearing a hat. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,498 Posted June 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: He probably knows because he follows him online. I said getting out of torque over books in the school library is ridiculous given that kids can find porn online. Tardcore twists that into saying my 10 y/o watches porn. I’d sooner let a tranny, drag queen or priest watch my kid than Tardcore. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,513 Posted June 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, MDC said: I said getting out of torque over books in the school library is ridiculous given that kids can find porn online. Tardcore twists that into saying my 10 y/o watches porn. I’d sooner let a tranny, drag queen or priest watch my kid than Tardcore. Ok, so you don’t know if your kid watches porn. Got it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Engorgeous George said: 78 degrees and partly sunny at 07:40 hours. Retired guy here is going to go out and do some kayaking and maybe toss a line in the water as well. Sometimes I find perspective out there as well as lunch.. Sounds awesome. My wife and I are planning on looking for a house on the water (lake or inlet) once we retire. Looking forward to getting a kayak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,307 Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, DonS said: Sounds awesome. My wife and I are planning on looking for a house on the water (lake or inlet) once we retire. Looking forward to getting a kayak. If you're an animal, you want to have a beaver as a friend, because they have some kick-ass houses. Lakeside my ass! Lake ON! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted June 28, 2023 3 hours ago, DonS said: Sounds awesome. My wife and I are planning on looking for a house on the water (lake or inlet) once we retire. Looking forward to getting a kayak. Get a nice fishing kayak and put a trolling motor on it like I did. Love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,703 Posted June 28, 2023 5 hours ago, MDC said: I said getting out of torque over books in the school library is ridiculous given that kids can find porn online. Tardcore twists that into saying my 10 y/o watches porn. I’d sooner let a tranny, drag queen or priest watch my kid than Tardcore. Yes! And there should be drugs Tobacco, and alcohol in the schools because they can get it on the street.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites