The Young Turks 2016 Election Meltdown Over Trump Victory (Uygur Runs For POTUS)

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TYT’s actual election night coverage got 4.5 million viewers—a record for them—over a nearly 12-hour broadcast. These are the "highlights"

What I don’t like about it, however, is that vitriol: the nastiness and the dead certainty that those who voted for Trump were ignorant, racist morons. (I shared the sick feeling of loss, but never the rage.) That misses the underlying dynamic that drove this election: whatever it was, it was more than a bunch of idiots and racists—KKK supporters some said—who simply wanted a President who shared their bigotry.... What bothers me is the kind of smug, dismissive attitude toward our opponents that will hinder us Leftists from regrouping and having substantial political power. For if we get that power, we must appeal to a wider audience and, if we can’t share some of the values of our opponents, at least find some common ground with them and concentrate on the problems of all the dispossessed, disadvantaged, and deprived....

https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2016/11/20/the-young-turks-lose-it-over-the-election/

 

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2:09 Aida Rodriguez says that people don’t like Hillary Clinton simply “because she has a vagina”. (Repeats this claim at 13:41, saying that Clinton lost “because she was a woman”).

8:59  Cenk Uygur has a tantrum about the Democratic Party: he says he’s at “war” with it for allowing Clinton to be defeated by a bigot. (Wasn’t he in favor of Hillary?) Later he calls them “f------- morons.”

14:53: Ana Kasparian says that women who voted for Trump are “f------ dumb”, and says, “I’m losing my mind tonight because of how stupid the majority of the country is.”

19:20: Aida Rodriguez calls the people criticizing her on Twitter “m------f-----s” and gives the camera two middle fingers

19:33: Ana Kasparian addresses those whom (she thinks) voted for Trump because they don’t like affirmative action. She says, “Affirmative action is not the reason you failed in life. You failed in life because you f------ suck! Because you’re a loser!”

23:08: The team turns on Hillary, starts blaming her for the loss. "Not every Trump supporter is a racist, but every racist is a Trump supporter"

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Just three days after Donald Trump announced his candidacy for president in June of last year, conservative columnist Ann Coulter suggested on “Real Time with Bill Maher” that he had the best shot at the GOP nomination, meeting with thunderous laughter from the studio audience. Of course, now it appears she was right.

“Of the declared ones, right now, Donald Trump,” Coulter said when asked which GOP candidate had the best chance of winning the nomination.

Roundtable guests Rep. Luis Gutiérrez, Joy Reid and Matt Lewis looked shocked at her answer and the crowd erupted in guffaws....Conservative pundit and author Coulter was mocked again, later in the segment, for suggesting that Bernie Sanders would make a better Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. Keep in mind, this was nearly a year ago, when Clinton was viewed as an unstoppable force and long before Sanders gained the support that has kept him in the race to this day. Many Democratic voters now agree with Coulter’s theory....

....Hillary Clinton's campaign chair told supporters at her campaign headquarters the race was too close to call, but not long after, Donald Trump said Clinton called her to concede. Why the mixed messages? CBSN's political panel discusses.

"She has always been with you!" - John Podesta, giving Hillary Clinton's concession for her in front of all her supporters.

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"Talk about how historically pathetic the Democratic Party is, that they let this guy, who has never had any success in business, he's has a track record of monumental failure, and they let him win the Presidency and become the most powerful man.... The Democratic Party is gone. But I'm at war with the Democratic Party! This corporatist weak spineless pathetic Party that....handed power to a raging, not just bigot, but an incompetent! I'm done with those losers....I don't care what the donors want!....(Hours Later) ....Hey look man, you gotta give us power man, because without money, you don't have power, let's keep it real...."    -  Cenk Uygur, Election Night 2016

 

"I have no respect for women who voted for Trump...I think so poorly of them.... I don't think you are a single issue voter.  I just think you are dumb....That I started playing mind games on myself as well...these are the racists that don't want to take personal responsibility for their failures in life...they aren't going to vote for Democrats...."  - Ana Kasparian, Election Night 2016

 

"The left think they are right, and not merely that, they think they are better people"  - Peter Hitchens

 

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No one was entitled to victory in the 2016 general election. It was not preordained. Hillary Clinton did not have some kind of feudal birthright to ascend to POTUS. Something I want to highlight is that Hillary Clinton is NOT a victim. But she and many of her supporters have gone to great lengths to present her as such to the American public. No one made her marry a man who was accused of multiple rapes. No one forced her to laugh at a rape victim in Kathy Shelton, defend the rapist legally, and then get caught on tape doing it.  No one forced her to actions/inaction/statements/positions on Benghazi. No one made her call so many every day working class people as "deplorables"  No one made her conspire with Debbie Wasserman Schultz to steal the 2016 primaries from Bernie Sanders and have WikiLeaks break that wide open. No one made her ignore the constant pleas not to have a private email server. No one made her nor Bill Clinton turn their White House run into a relentless grifting enterprise for personal wealth. No one forced her to abandon practical campaign strategy in several states.

The 2016 election loss by Hillary Clinton is proof of life that "woke" is not a practical tenable ideology on which to base a functioning society. If we live in a world where power is distributed and weaponized based on victim-hood, this only encourages every last single American to wage all out war amongst each other over even the tiniest of their irreconcilable hurt feelings.

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Can Trump cure all of Biden’s ills? Some Dems aren’t so sure.

...Donald Trump’s CNN town hall on Wednesday night was viewed as a gift from the political gods inside Biden world. But within broader Democratic circles it fed a nagging and growing concern. Is the president’s team a touch too confident about a Trump-Biden rematch?...Top officials privately have expressed anxiety about the state of the president’s reelection operation.....The president’s political team refuses to discuss its fundraising numbers in public, sparking anxiety among donors that the number is underwhelming and could continue to lag as the summer months approach....

....The assumption that Trump’s continued presence on the scene — and his likely ascension to Republican nominee — will cure a lot of the current ailments is a recipe for complacency. That is especially problematic amid an economy Americans still feel unsure about, and as investigations into the president and his family have the potential to further complicate the election.“..... And so it’s not a huge surprise that the White House doesn’t feel receptive to messages other than the ones that they want to believe in,” said Stephanie Murphy, a former moderate Democratic House member. “It’s easy to blame the media but what is important is being able to listen to what the American people are saying to you. I mean, it’s not that every poll is wrong.”

....Those closest to Biden like their chances in a 2020 rematch with Trump. They believe Trump is no longer viewed as an outsider change agent, but as a disruptive force, one a large swath of the country considers embarrassing.....White House aides believe that even voters who may be lukewarm about now President Biden will still turn out to vote against Trump. But some Democrats feel the dynamics are different now. David Simas, Obama’s White House political director toward the end of his presidency, says that Democrats shouldn’t anticipate that Trump’s presence on the trail and the airwaves makes Biden’s path easier than it was in 2020.....“In 2016 at this stage, 18 months before, [Trump] was trailing Secretary Clinton by double digits.....” 

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/11/can-trump-cure-all-of-bidens-ills-some-dems-arent-so-sure-00096570

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Thanks for sharing. I was up all night basking in the salty liberal tears.  Greatest night in US History.  Hope we get a repeat in 2024.  

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On 5/12/2023 at 11:52 PM, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

"Talk about how historically pathetic the Democratic Party is, that they let this guy, who has never had any success in business, he's has a track record of monumental failure, and they let him win the Presidency and become the most powerful man.... The Democratic Party is gone. But I'm at war with the Democratic Party! This corporatist weak spineless pathetic Party that....handed power to a raging, not just bigot, but an incompetent! I'm done with those losers....I don't care what the donors want!....(Hours Later) ....Hey look man, you gotta give us power man, because without money, you don't have power, let's keep it real...."    -  Cenk Uygur, Election Night 2016

 

"I have no respect for women who voted for Trump...I think so poorly of them.... I don't think you are a single issue voter.  I just think you are dumb....That I started playing mind games on myself as well...these are the racists that don't want to take personal responsibility for their failures in life...they aren't going to vote for Democrats...."  - Ana Kasparian, Election Night 2016

 

"The left think they are right, and not merely that, they think they are better people"  - Peter Hitchens

 

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No one was entitled to victory in the 2016 general election. It was not preordained. Hillary Clinton did not have some kind of feudal birthright to ascend to POTUS. Something I want to highlight is that Hillary Clinton is NOT a victim. But she and many of her supporters have gone to great lengths to present her as such to the American public. No one made her marry a man who was accused of multiple rapes. No one forced her to laugh at a rape victim in Kathy Shelton, defend the rapist legally, and then get caught on tape doing it.  No one forced her to actions/inaction/statements/positions on Benghazi. No one made her call so many every day working class people as "deplorables"  No one made her conspire with Debbie Wasserman Schultz to steal the 2016 primaries from Bernie Sanders and have WikiLeaks break that wide open. No one made her ignore the constant pleas not to have a private email server. No one made her nor Bill Clinton turn their White House run into a relentless grifting enterprise for personal wealth. No one forced her to abandon practical campaign strategy in several states.

The 2016 election loss by Hillary Clinton is proof of life that "woke" is not a practical tenable ideology on which to base a functioning society. If we live in a world where power is distributed and weaponized based on victim-hood, this only encourages every last single American to wage all out war amongst each other over even the tiniest of their irreconcilable hurt feelings.

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Funny how Ana was feeling the wrath of the alphabet mafia a few weeks ago when she didn’t bow down to trans ideology.  They love eating their own.

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The video of the nut in the raincoat screaming will never get old.  

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I wonder why all these people would hate a strong economy with record low AA unemployment and energy independance..... seems an odd position to take.

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Did this happen on the moon.  Jfc...find a new obsession.

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Ana Kasparian saying she has no respect for women that voted the way they wanted to. Yup.  

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1 hour ago, RLLD said:

I wonder why all these people would hate a strong economy with record low AA unemployment and energy independance..... seems an odd position to take.

Exactly. To this day I'll never understand why they voted Trump in 2016.

Also, nobody's going to mention that Blue Horseshoe is posting a bunch of videos from 2016? Like why?

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10 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Exactly. To this day I'll never understand why they voted Trump in 2016.

Also, nobody's going to mention that Blue Horseshoe is posting a bunch of videos from 2016? Like why?

They voted Trump for many reasons.  Clinton was a bad candidate first and foremost.  But also too there are many Americans who do not share the negative view of America that the Democrats were selling and Trump had enough charisma and common sense to lure in voters.  Then he delivered over and over again.  Should he win the next election we should expect to enjoy a much better day to day life, as long as he holds true to past policies. 

Agree on the 2016 lamentation.  Why raise the fact that on 2016 the Democrats were pretending it was a rigged election, that was just so very silly.

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1 minute ago, RLLD said:

They voted Trump for many reasons.  Clinton was a bad candidate first and foremost.  But also too there are many Americans who do not share the negative view of America that the Democrats were selling and Trump had enough charisma and common sense to lure in voters.  Then he delivered over and over again.  Should he win the next election we should expect to enjoy a much better day to day life, as long as he holds true to past policies. 

Agree on the 2016 lamentation.  Why raise the fact that on 2016 the Democrats were pretending it was a rigged election, that was just so very silly.

Whoa there chief.  The Democrats weren't the one's selling a negative view of America in the 2016 election. It was Trump with the "Make America Great Again" rhetoric. Clinton(agree from a surface standpoint she has way too much baggage) was pushing the positives of the previous administration accomplished, not enough IMO, but it wasn't her with the negative view. 

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4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Whoa there chief.  The Democrats weren't the one's selling a negative view of America in the 2016 election. It was Trump with the "Make America Great Again" rhetoric. Clinton(agree from a surface standpoint she has way too much baggage) was pushing the positives of the previous administration accomplished, not enough IMO, but it wasn't her with the negative view. 

Huh? Who was it that was saying America needed “fundamental change” ?   

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8 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Whoa there chief.  The Democrats weren't the one's selling a negative view of America in the 2016 election. It was Trump with the "Make America Great Again" rhetoric. Clinton(agree from a surface standpoint she has way too much baggage) was pushing the positives of the previous administration accomplished, not enough IMO, but it wasn't her with the negative view. 

Correct.....it was promising it was hopeful, Obama did it too...Clinton failed on this point. 

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1 hour ago, RLLD said:

I wonder why all these people would hate a strong economy with record low AA unemployment and energy independance..... seems an odd position to take.

 

You are asking a very good question here. 

Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, from the first main video, are both millionaires from being "brand name" political pundits. However they represent the Progressive wing of the Democratic Party, which are clearly at odds with the hard line establishment Democrats. Both sides treat the other as a type of "necessary evil" in elections because they just need the raw number of total voters together to try to win against Conservatives and Republicans. When you live in neighborhoods that are nowhere near what working class people have to endure, then it's easy to casually give lip service to their concerns. When your kids go to the best schools, when you can afford all the luxuries, when you can buy whatever electric vehicle you want, when your job doesn't entail back breaking labor, when you don't have to clean your own toilets, when you don't see the daily carnage right in your face - then it's easy to compartmentalize the material needs struggle of those who are paycheck and a half away from being homeless into what amounts to a theoretical discussion only. 

But both were not without some major points about the 2016 general cycle. ( Unfortunately they are often crass and confrontational because of attempting to appease their projectible viewer demographics) Hence I've always said just because you don't like someone doesn't automatically mean that they are wrong, and when they are wrong, it doesn't mean they are ruled out from sometimes actually having a good point.

Uygur was generally right about two critical factors in 2016

1) The polling industry was very unreliable. Heavy reliance on polling numbers, especially from 538 (Silver) and from Princeton (Wang) created bad Blue campaign strategy that was not proactive enough

2) Establishment Democrats refused to embrace a true populist candidate despite signs of a push back from every day working class people about corporate type shill candidates that started to simmer during the entire Obama regime.

Kasparian held firm about the 2016 being a critical juncture for a "disruptive" political event. I.E. a ground swell of previous mentioned push back that had root causes across all major sectors ( education, entertainment, finance, military, etc, etc)  and that there was a massive "disconnect" between the Team Blue stocking stuffer type establishment cut outs and the actual on the ground electorate.

Someone like Clinton, Podesta or a Wasserman Schultz, were so filled with their own myopic arrogance,  they would never consider the points of a Uygur or a Kasparian, merely, as strategist Mark Penn coined it, "dismissed as simply right wing talking points even if evidence showed the people at large agreed"

From a strategy standpoint, something that Penn skirted around but I'll say out loud is Clinton raised a lot of money and laundered a lot of money to buy votes she already had. There was never a practical consideration about the votes she didn't have. Lots of people in the DNC actually quietly knew Clinton would likely lose, they just said nothing as they never saw pay days like this before. The push/pull here is that Progressives, like The Young Turks, often have practical points about political strategy, but their reasoning is not rooted in function, process and logistics. More to point, establishment corporate Democrats find it beneath them to have to learn the language of the young hard line left that actually helps them win elections.

What should trouble Team Blue HQ and the DNC (but it clearly doesn't) is not that "they were wrong", what should trouble them is that anyone who speaks up for the practical concerns for the working class were totally ignored even when there's a real point to be made that would have actually helped the overall Party apparatus to win a damn election.

The only real explanation from the heavy pull away from basic common sense is that they are insular ideological zealots.  Zealots can't build anything. They only destroy what other people make and toil for while being too entitled to realize that the same system they hate is the same system that gives them the freedom to be zealots in the first place. 

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26 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Exactly. To this day I'll never understand why they voted Trump in 2016.

Also, nobody's going to mention that Blue Horseshoe is posting a bunch of videos from 2016? Like why?

I voted Trump in 2016 because I forever hated the Clintons thanks to being brainwashed by Rush Limbaugh during the 90s.  I still do, just not as much.  I didn't want Hillary and her corruption.  I bought what Trump was selling, an outsider, drain the swamp, pro business, make smart decisions, he's not your typical corrupt politician, supports the working man.

He was pro business, but everything else was off base.

But yeah 2016 election night I was pretty pumped to see Trump win and how this would usher in another era of greatness.  Whoops.

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Just now, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

You are asking a very good question here. 

Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, from the first main video, are both millionaires from being "brand name" political pundits. However they represent the Progressive wing of the Democratic Party, which are clearly at odds with the hard line establishment Democrats. Both sides treat the other as a type of "necessary evil" in elections because they just need the raw number of total voters together to try to win against Conservatives and Republicans. When you live in neighborhoods that are nowhere near what working class people have to endure, then it's easy to casually give lip service to their concerns. When your kids go to the best schools, when you can afford all the luxuries, when you can buy whatever electric vehicle you want, when your job doesn't entail back breaking labor, when you don't have to clean your own toilets, when you don't see the daily carnage right in your face - then it's easy to compartmentalize the material needs struggle of those who are paycheck and a half away from being homeless into what amounts to a theoretical discussion only. 

I am hesitant to put too much stock into anything they might have to say. They are immature and petulent. They only care about their percaption of meeting a moral standard and nothing for the consequences of that moral standard. They are less than useful. 

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Young Turks founder Cenk Uygur to run for president in 2024 as Democrat

....The big picture: The naturalized citizen who immigrated from Turkey to the U.S. in 1978 would be a long shot, but he said on his show that Biden would not win the election.....Istanbul-born Uygur believes the Constitution's "natural born citizen" clause would enable him to become president, but that he may have to take his case to the U.S. Supreme Court to get there.....What they're saying: "It should not have been me, it should have been somebody else, but unfortunately it was not anyone else," Uygur said.

"There's only four months left. We must change course. He has at best a 10% chance of winning. I'm running as a proxy. I am running to win."...Representatives for the White House did not immediately respond to Axios' request for comment.

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/12/young-turks-cenk-uygur-president-run-democrat-2024

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GordonGekko:

Why should anyone give an eff about Cenk who can't legally become POTUS? (like not US born).

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