Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted April 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Explain please. Ā You explain how he didnātĀ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted April 5, 2024 6 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: What did Biden do specifically that made inflation so much worse? Let's start here, because the WH finally admitted it....did not apologize mind you, but at least admitted what they did. Rather they retype everything I have posted....over...and over...and over.... again....just gonna link it Mostly lamenting his lying here. "It is likely that only the top 1% of consumers by income will be better off than before the pandemic," Kolanovic wrote, pointing to the growing signs of credit card and auto loan delinquencies, as well as Chapter 11 filings. And then of course the list of links  I have posted many more examples, of course I note that you rarely provide such things... 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted April 5, 2024 40 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Again youāre speaking in generalities, and I really have no idea what youāre referring to. It would help if you wrote āon such and such date Joe Biden committed this act and it caused this painful outcome.āĀ The people are making it known.Ā Ā Interviews by media....polling...all of it....surveys and such.....we can see the results.Ā It infuriates the President. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted April 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: Let's start here, because the WH finally admitted it....did not apologize mind you, but at least admitted what they did. Rather they retype everything I have posted....over...and over...and over.... again....just gonna link it Mostly lamenting his lying here. "It is likely that only the top 1% of consumers by income will be better off than before the pandemic," Kolanovic wrote, pointing to the growing signs of credit card and auto loan delinquencies, as well as Chapter 11 filings. And then of course the list of links  I have posted many more examples, of course I note that you rarely provide such things... Bro all of these links are to you rambling like a cultist. Please provide me a link to a source not you or this board that states that Biden caused inflation. I've stated many many times why Trump was the primary creator of inflation using facts and examples. You've never done the same. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted April 5, 2024 42 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The first link is to an opinion piece: The author offers a pov, one that I disagree with, but it certainly doesnāt back up a single one of your statements.Ā The second link is focused solely on the New York hush money case. Not sure how thatās even relevant. And again itās reporting certain peopleās opinions, no facts are presented.Ā Ā Making the claim that the Georgia case is a political persecution, and that the system is being āwildly abusedā are pretty serious charges and if you want me to take you seriously you need evidence to back it up.Ā You asked where I sourced my position.Ā So I provide, then you make the move to say I disagree with your source....of course....I mean, unless I post a link you agree with you will just discount it.... The total lawfare is extravagant, your people are making him into some kind of folk hero.... Consider this..... you and yours have been insisting for years that "the system" is unfair, pointedly to historically disenfranchised people.....you have indoctrinated them with this excrement.Ā Now....you go after this guy and show them THE VERY THING you have been using to instill fear and hate into them..... are you really surprised that they are starting to move into his camp? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted April 5, 2024 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You explain how he didnātĀ Trump bullied the Fed to keep rates near 0% his entire horrible term. Trump's tax cuts for the rich increased the amount of disposable dollars chasing goods. Supply chains were destroyed under Trump. Trump spent $2.7T on covid. Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted April 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Bro all of these links are to you rambling like a cultist. Please provide me a link to a source not you or this board that states that Biden caused inflation.Ā I've stated many many times why Trump was the primary creator of inflation using facts and examples. You've never done the same. Well sure, any link I provide you will simply declare it invalid in some way.....Ā Ā unless I sneak in one that feeds into your bias in some way, then you will likely have an actual discussion; as I did with MOD pizza....in the other thread.... Being unwilling to accept anything other than what liberal media feeds you is limiting your intellect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted April 5, 2024 6 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Trump bullied the Fed to keep rates near 0% his entire horrible term. Trump's tax cuts for the rich increased the amount of disposable dollars chasing goods. Supply chains were destroyed under Trump. Trump spent $2.7T on covid. Ā All spending originates in the House. Itās right there in the constitution. Section 1. Thank Pelosi too.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted April 5, 2024 18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: All spending originates in the House. Itās right there in the constitution. Section 1. Thank Pelosi too.Ā Uh, who has to sign the bill to make it law boyo?Ā I assume you didn't watch Saturday morning cartoons. And the destroyed supply chains and Trump sending everyone signed checks is the fuel that inflation burned out of control from.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted April 5, 2024 1 minute ago, BeachGuy23 said: Uh, who has to sign the bill to make it law boyo?Ā I assume you didn't watch Saturday morning cartoons. And the destroyed supply chains and Trump sending everyone signed checks is the fuel that inflation burned out of control from.Ā How did he destroy the supply chains? He made Covid happen in China too?Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted April 5, 2024 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: How did he destroy the supply chains? He made Covid happen in China too?Ā Supply chains were destroyed under his presidency.Ā He's way way more responsible or that than Biden is for inflation that was coming no matter what he did. I will agree that Biden made it worse with his $1.9T covid bill.Ā But we were looking at 6%+ inflation no matter what he did. The miracle is that inflation truly was transitory, particularly when compared to the late 70's.Ā You remember those years don't you boyo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted April 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Supply chains were destroyed under his presidency.Ā He's way way more responsible or that than Biden is for inflation that was coming no matter what he did. I will agree that Biden made it worse with his $1.9T covid bill.Ā But we were looking at 6%+ inflation no matter what he did. The miracle is that inflation truly was transitory, particularly when compared to the late 70's.Ā You remember those years don't you boyo? So how did he destroy the supply chains that originate in other countries?Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted April 5, 2024 35 minutes ago, RLLD said: You asked where I sourced my position.Ā So I provide, then you make the move to say I disagree with your source....of course....I mean, unless I post a link you agree with you will just discount it.... The total lawfare is extravagant, your people are making him into some kind of folk hero.... Consider this..... you and yours have been insisting for years that "the system" is unfair, pointedly to historically disenfranchised people.....you have indoctrinated them with this excrement.Ā Now....you go after this guy and show them THE VERY THING you have been using to instill fear and hate into them..... are you really surprised that they are starting to move into his camp? Based on your comments here you and I are so far removed on these subjects that I donāt know if it makes any sense to engage in further discussion. But I will try:Ā Yes I believe that our justice system, and life here in general, Ā has been historically unfair to certain groups of minorities in this country. I donāt regard that belief as āexcrementā. Itās based on facts and history. Itās pretty insulting to use that word to describe it. People are not indoctrinated with these facts.Ā Ā No one is āgoing afterā Trump. Heās been charged in several court cases for committing actual crimes. I believe he committed them. Trump is not being unfairly treated (except for the fact that he is receiving far more lenient treatment than you or I would- in that sense and that sense alone he is being unfairly treated.)Ā Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted April 5, 2024 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: So how did he destroy the supply chains that originate in other countries?Ā He was president of the US and bungled covid so bigly that our supply chains couldn't get workers. Is this really that hard? At least we agree that Trump is to blame for 80% of the inflation that Biden crushed.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted April 5, 2024 14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: How did he destroy the supply chains? He made Covid happen in China too?Ā He didnāt destroy them but his long inexplicable delay in using the power at his disposal made them far worse. Trumpās response to Covid must go down as the worst response of any President to a crisis in American history, no exceptions, not even James Buchanan or Herbert Hoover. He basically froze for months, denied the crisis, refused to take any positive action, tried to lay it on the states, tried to blame anyone he could (including, typically, a racist attack against the Chinese.) Because of operation Warp Speed late in his term he doesnāt get a total F but he does get a D-. His inaction led to the unnecessary deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. Since he has been out of office, his refusal to whole-heartedly embrace the vaccines and his willingness to lend his name to crackpot, anti-vaccine conspiracy theories have caused the deaths of many more people, most of whom were his followers. So tragic, stupid and unnecessary.Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted April 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Based on your comments here you and I are so far removed on these subjects that I donāt know if it makes any sense to engage in further discussion. But I will try:Ā Yes I believe that our justice system, and life here in general, Ā has been historically unfair to certain groups of minorities in this country. I donāt regard that belief as āexcrementā. Itās based on facts and history. Itās pretty insulting to use that word to describe it. People are not indoctrinated with these facts.Ā Ā No one is āgoing afterā Trump. Heās been charged in several court cases for committing actual crimes. I believe he committed them. Trump is not being unfairly treated (except for the fact that he is receiving far more lenient treatment than you or I would- in that sense and that sense alone he is being unfairly treated.)Ā Ā I think there was a time when the system was unfair, then the 1960's came around, and it was rather fair, and if you were not a dirtbag human....things went your way.Ā I think there was a tectonic shift in the 1990's with the 1995 crime bill.....they elevated attention to criminality, and disproportionately harmed the AA community in particular. The ongoing destruction of the nuclear family for the AA community that started with Johnson fomenting the welfare state......had gasoline thrown on it by Democrats in the 90's So where we can stand up to Democrats I think we can better protect the AA community. But the system was not at fault, the behaviors were held to account, so its not system so much as behavior. Now we can see the allowance for bad behavior as an attempt to remedy this....which of course hurts the good people while empowering the bad....making the average persons life even more miserable.... Now with Trump, you have done to him.....for all to see....what you and yours have sold these people was done to them, you MUST be able to see how they would then tend to gravitate more toward him.....Democrats are the ones that have harmed the AA community......and now they see them doing the thing YOU ALL have told them was so wrong to Trump....its not good strategy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted April 5, 2024 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: He didnāt destroy them but his long inexplicable delay in using the power at his disposal made them far worse. Trumpās response to Covid must go down as the worst response of any President to a crisis in American history, no exceptions, not even James Buchanan or Herbert Hoover. He basically froze for months, denied the crisis, refused to take any positive action, tried to lay it on the states, tried to blame anyone he could (including, typically, a racist attack against the Chinese.) Because of operation Warp Speed late in his term he doesnāt get a total F but he does get a D-. His inaction led to the unnecessary deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. Since he has been out of office, his refusal to whole-heartedly embrace the vaccines and his willingness to lend his name to crackpot, anti-vaccine conspiracy theories have caused the deaths of many more people, most of whom were his followers. So tragic, stupid and unnecessary.Ā The power at his disposal? He had the power to make China open up after they closed down? Much more than we did? This is like talking to a 15 year old.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted April 5, 2024 Trump must listen to the experts! Any examples of him not? Fauci even said he did what was asked.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted April 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Trump must listen to the experts! Any examples of him not? Fauci even said he did what was asked.Ā https://www.americanprogress.org/article/5-ways-trump-administrations-policy-failures-compounded-coronavirus-induced-economic-crisis/ Ā https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trumps-policy-failures-have-exacted-a-heavy-toll-on-public-health1/ Ā https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/politics/trump-covid-pandemic-dark-winter/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted April 5, 2024 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: https://www.americanprogress.org/article/5-ways-trump-administrations-policy-failures-compounded-coronavirus-induced-economic-crisis/ Ā https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trumps-policy-failures-have-exacted-a-heavy-toll-on-public-health1/ Ā https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/politics/trump-covid-pandemic-dark-winter/ You canāt ever just answer a question yourself. You lived through it yet you have to run to your leftist media mouthpieces to do your talking for you. Is that what you do IRL? Also, there is no way you read all of that since I asked. Youāre a complete fraud.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,546 Posted April 5, 2024 48 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: https://www.americanprogress.org/article/5-ways-trump-administrations-policy-failures-compounded-coronavirus-induced-economic-crisis/ Ā https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trumps-policy-failures-have-exacted-a-heavy-toll-on-public-health1/ Ā https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/politics/trump-covid-pandemic-dark-winter/ I looked at one of your articles Tim.Ā It makes a bunch of assertions without one scrap of data to back them up.Ā Much like your posts. Trump was dealing with Covid while Pelosi was still sauntering around Chinatown in SF doing her best Kevin Bacon impression. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted April 5, 2024 5 minutes ago, Strike said: I looked at one of your articles Tim.Ā It makes a bunch of assertions without one scrap of data to back them up.Ā Much like your posts. Trump was dealing with Covid while Pelosi was still sauntering around Chinatown in SF doing her best Kevin Bacon impression. In 2020 the US had a top 10 highest deaths per capita from covid. Trump was unfortunately the president, the country's response is on him. Why do you think he's universally acknowledged as the worst president of all time? Why do you think that 80% of the people who used to work with him tell us what an unhinged, moronic, no moral POS he is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted April 5, 2024 44 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Ā Trump was unfortunately the president, the country's response is on him. This is not my argument. Itās one that I donāt subscribe to. I donāt buy into the āit happened on his watchā thing. Itās lazy IMO.Ā I think Trump deserves blame forĀ specificĀ things that he did and didnāt do, detailed in the 3 articles I linked (despite @Strikeās disclaimer.)Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,989 Posted April 6, 2024 19 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said: What did Biden do specifically that made inflation so much worse? Remember BOYO, you were better off. And don't lie.Ā Ā Ā Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted April 7, 2024 Well now, President Trump just violated the NY Judges unconstitutional gag order, big time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,532 Posted April 7, 2024 Goes after judge and daughter AGAIN.Ā How can anyone be this stupid?Ā With the Nelson Mandela comments this has to be a plan.Ā He must be thinking that his poll numbers will go up if he's jailed. Imagine comparing yourself to Nelson Mandela, a man who was imprisoned fighting for the rights of blacks during aparthied, compared to your acts of sh1t posting online about a judges daughter in a case where you paid off a porn star after you pretty much raped her while your wife was home pregnant. Complete void of self awareness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,532 Posted April 7, 2024 No one above the law, except me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted April 7, 2024 Seriously are we going to have to wait until one of these judges or their family gets attacked before we toss Trumpās ass in jail? Nobody else would ever be allowed to get away with this sh!t.Ā 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted April 7, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Seriously are we going to have to wait until one of these judges or their family gets attacked before we toss Trumpās ass in jail? Nobody else would ever be allowed to get away with this sh!t.Ā A judge and his family were attacked. You and the rest of the Libtards didnāt seem to care.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,989 Posted April 7, 2024 On 4/5/2024 at 2:57 PM, BeachGuy23 said: What did Biden do specifically that made inflation so much worse? It's coming BOYO. You never see hot chicks waiving Biden flagsĀ Ā Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted April 7, 2024 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Seriously are we going to have to wait until one of these judges or their family gets attacked before we toss Trumpās ass in jail? Nobody else would ever be allowed to get away with this sh!t.Ā No, you authoritarian dipshit.Ā Even if a judge gets attacked, it is not on Trump.Ā Criticism of liberal hacks who abuse their power and make a mockery of our Justice system is not inciting violence.Ā Ā Democratic rhetoric is far more hateful, bigotted, and inciteful than anything Trump has ever said in his life.Ā Your double-standard non-senseĀ is absolutely moronic, but I completely understand you have been completelyĀ duped into idiotic thinking by your blind trust in the corrupt establishment media and institutions.Ā Ā 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted April 7, 2024 Lots of people get death threats. They arenāt all the same.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,106 Posted April 7, 2024 8 minutes ago, jonmx said: No, you authoritarian dipshit.Ā Even if a judge gets attacked, it is not on Trump.Ā Criticism of liberal hacks who abuse their power and make a mockery of our Justice system is not inciting violence.Ā Ā Democratic rhetoric is far more hateful, bigotted, and inciteful than anything Trump has ever said in his life.Ā You double-standard non-senseĀ is absolutely moronic, but I completely understand you have been completelyĀ duped into idiotic thinking by your blind trust in the corrupt establishment media and institutions.Ā Ā That's how it works.Ā You scream "OMG!" and try to scare people into thinking they aren't safe so YOU can take over and become the Communist/Marxist authoritarian dictator. Tim is a fool.Ā A useful fool until he's no longer necessary and then he gets lined up against the wall like he wants to do with those who don't tow the dogma. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted April 7, 2024 all you MAGAs and wanna be MAGAs lining up to slob this dudeās knob is pathetic. Cuck city!Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted April 7, 2024 This guy could sell you a plate of his shet and youād call it Feedom Brownies. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted April 7, 2024 1 hour ago, jonmx said: No, you authoritarian dipshit.Ā Even if a judge gets attacked, it is not on Trump.Ā Criticism of liberal hacks who abuse their power and make a mockery of our Justice system is not inciting violence.Ā Ā Democratic rhetoric is far more hateful, bigotted, and inciteful than anything Trump has ever said in his life.Ā Your double-standard non-senseĀ is absolutely moronic, but I completely understand you have been completelyĀ duped into idiotic thinking by your blind trust in the corrupt establishment media and institutions.Ā Ā I guess you donāt know what a gag order means. Neither does your hero.Ā Ā Your comments about Democratic rhetoric being far worse than Trump is not only false, itās insane. No politician in modern times is worse than Trump. He is uniquely awful. No politician on either side has ever called for violence like this. You are defending a fascist. You claim to hate authoritarianism but you constantly defend the one guy who wants to bring it to the U.S. talk about duped.Ā 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,106 Posted April 7, 2024 38 minutes ago, thegeneral said: all you MAGAs and wanna be MAGAs lining up to slob this dudeās knob is pathetic. Cuck city!Ā yeah, okay.Ā Hilarious coming from the guy that believes everything he's told. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted April 7, 2024 This orange clown straight up told you bozos that he could shoot someone in the face and youād go for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites