Illinois sheriffs prepare for 'America's most dangerous law' to come into effect

[seafoam1 2,799]

Illinois is fighting hard for the honor of being one of the worst states in the country. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/illinois-sheriffs-prepare-for-america-s-most-dangerous-law-to-come-into-effect/ar-AA1e7QXb?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=29c0a39cc79741a99d1842741fe67724&ei=26

Officials in southern Illinois say they are preparing for more crime and more victims as a result of the end of cash bail across the state.

On Tuesday, the Illinois Supreme Court ruled in favor of eliminating the state's cash bail system, which will end bail as a condition of pretrial release.

Franklin County Sheriff Kyle Bacon told Fox News that people who live in southern Illinois are "extremely concerned" about the new law.

He said: "It's an experiment on the backs of victims of crime. I have serious concerns and so do the people that live here."

In the 5-2 ruling, the court overturned a ruling from an Illinois judge last December that a new state law to end cash bail was deemed unconstitutional....

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

Don’t worry, they’ll get around to fixing it after they cause the problem and the victims pile up , which will happen. Well, fix it on paper.  

[easilyscan 858]

Like HT said above, this will end badly.

[dogcows 1,030]

Cash bail is unjust. It’s also ineffective. Criminals who can post bail can still reoffend. Areas that eliminated cash bail did not see increases in failure to appear at trial or increases in crimes committed after arrest and before trial. It’s an outdated system that targets low-income people.

[BuckSwope 654]

3 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Cash bail is unjust. It’s also ineffective. Criminals who can post bail can still reoffend. Areas that eliminated cash bail did not see increases in failure to appear at trial or increases in crimes committed after arrest and before trial. It’s an outdated system that targets low-income people.

Geek Club response:  why do you cheer on people dying in our streets??!!  

Combine that with a problem of overpolicing/policing for profit, and you have a bad system.   

[seafoam1 2,799]

1 hour ago, dogcows said:

Cash bail is unjust. It’s also ineffective. Criminals who can post bail can still reoffend. Areas that eliminated cash bail did not see increases in failure to appear at trial or increases in crimes committed after arrest and before trial. It’s an outdated system that targets low-income people.

It targets criminals dumbass.

[5-Points 3,387]

1 hour ago, dogcows said:

Cash bail is unjust. It’s also ineffective. Criminals who can post bail can still reoffend. Areas that eliminated cash bail did not see increases in failure to appear at trial or increases in crimes committed after arrest and before trial. It’s an outdated system that targets low-income people.

Don't do the crime if you ain't got a dime. 

[Kopy 559]

1 hour ago, dogcows said:

Cash bail is unjust. It’s also ineffective. Criminals who can post bail can still reoffend. Areas that eliminated cash bail did not see increases in failure to appear at trial or increases in crimes committed after arrest and before trial. It’s an outdated system that targets low-income people.

Your sh1t is beyond old at this point.

[League Champion 1,896]

2 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

Combine that with a problem of overpolicing/policing for profit, and you have a bad system.   

Is that what's happening in Dem run Cities? The ones that are war zones? You say "overpolicing" but who's there to police anyone? 

When is it bad people? Do we always need an excuse to justify violence? 

[seafoam1 2,799]

41 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Is that what's happening in Dem run Cities? The ones that are war zones? You say "overpolicing" but who's there to police anyone? 

When is it bad people? Do we always need an excuse to justify violence? 

If he, his wife, or his kid were punched in the face by a criminal, he would change his tune quickly. He has no concern for the victim's feelings unless it were to affect him personally. 

[BuckSwope 654]

52 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Is that what's happening in Dem run Cities? The ones that are war zones? You say "overpolicing" but who's there to police anyone? 

When is it bad people? Do we always need an excuse to justify violence? 

Yes, in all cities - even ones like Jacksonville in Red states with R mayors. War Zone is quite hyperbolic.  There are still police, dinkus.  It's often bad people, and I personally rarely justify violence.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

Ass munchers that never spent one minute in the presence of actual criminals think they have a clue. 

[BuckSwope 654]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Ass munchers that never spent one minute in the presence of actual criminals think they have a clue. 

Internet tough guy, low IQ thinking at it's finest.  Somebody disagrees with you about something, that means you know all about their life.   No, we don't live in inner city Chicago and neither do you. 

You are right, I've probably not encountered as many shoplifters as you, but the business I owned had enough theft - employees and customers.   For reasons from DUIs to murder, I have visited various family members in prison and seen that system in action too.   I have family members who are police.   None of that changes my opinion or facts around what I wrote.  

[seafoam1 2,799]

1 minute ago, BuckSwope said:

Internet tough guy, low IQ thinking at it's finest.  Somebody disagrees with you about something, that means you know all about their life.   No, we don't live in inner city Chicago and neither do you. 

You are right, I've probably not encountered as many shoplifters as you, but the business I owned had enough theft - employees and customers.   For reasons from DUIs to murder, I have visited various family members in prison and seen that system in action too.   I have family members who are police.   None of that changes my opinion or facts around what I wrote.  

So if your wife is out walking down the street and some broke dude punches her in the face and breaks her jaw, you want him back out on the streets that night. Got it. 

Great take retard.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

4 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Internet tough guy, low IQ thinking at it's finest.  Somebody disagrees with you about something, that means you know all about their life.   No, we don't live in inner city Chicago and neither do you. 

You are right, I've probably not encountered as many shoplifters as you, but the business I owned had enough theft - employees and customers.   For reasons from DUIs to murder, I have visited various family members in prison and seen that system in action too.   I have family members who are police.   None of that changes my opinion or facts around what I wrote.  

Anyone that thinks bail, even minimum bail, isn't a deterrent is a clueless ideologue that will grasp and repeat anything they are fed. And couldn’t give a rats ass about who suffers for it. 

[Baker Boy 1,687]

3 hours ago, dogcows said:

Cash bail is unjust. It’s also ineffective. Criminals who can post bail can still reoffend. Areas that eliminated cash bail did not see increases in failure to appear at trial or increases in crimes committed after arrest and before trial. It’s an outdated system that targets low-income criminals.

Fixed, this is where the vast vast majority of violent crime occurs. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.

and for those that say, this is for racial equality, it is more like racial Genocide because low income people are the majority of people being killed. That is why the Dems don’t care.

 

[League Champion 1,896]

26 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

None of that changes my opinion or facts around what I wrote.  

Not you but why are Dems in general so damn set on protecting criminals? Always! 

[BuckSwope 654]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Anyone that thinks bail, even minimum bail, isn't a deterrent is a clueless ideologue that will grasp and repeat anything they are fed. And couldn’t give a rats ass about who suffers for it. 

Where in the world did I say bail wasn't a deterrent?   I don't know which is worse, that you are actually this incapable of reading posts or that your internet persona you use to troll people is somebody who can't read posts.  

My take: anybody who doesn't think our police and criminal system is a profit machine that benefits both sides of the aisle is a clueless ideologue that doesn't follow the trail of $ and will repeat anything they are fed.   

[BuckSwope 654]

1 minute ago, League Champion said:

Not you but why are Dems in general so damn set on protecting criminals? Always! 

See my posts above.  Ones I talk to are more in line with my thinking - it's a profit machine that is tilted towards the poor and that needs to be addressed and fixed.   Bail is a part of that, but IMO not as much of an issue as things like overpolicing has been over the decades.  

I have yet to encounter Dems in real life that want violent criminals walking the streets, but it's fun for internet fodder and clicks.  

[seafoam1 2,799]

5 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

See my posts above.  Ones I talk to are more in line with my thinking - it's a profit machine that is tilted towards the poor and that needs to be addressed and fixed.   Bail is a part of that, but IMO not as much of an issue as things like overpolicing has been over the decades.  

I have yet to encounter Dems in real life that want violent criminals walking the streets, but it's fun for internet fodder and clicks.  

It's tlted towards the criminals. Wake up.

[League Champion 1,896]

8 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

have yet to encounter Dems in real life that want violent criminals walking the streets, but it's fun for internet fodder and clicks.  

You don't think there's a crime problem in those cities? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

16 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Where in the world did I say bail wasn't a deterrent?   I don't know which is worse, that you are actually this incapable of reading posts or that your internet persona you use to troll people is somebody who can't read posts.  

My take: anybody who doesn't think our police and criminal system is a profit machine that benefits both sides of the aisle is a clueless ideologue that doesn't follow the trail of $ and will repeat anything they are fed.   

There are other people in this thread. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

17 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Where in the world did I say bail wasn't a deterrent?   I don't know which is worse, that you are actually this incapable of reading posts or that your internet persona you use to troll people is somebody who can't read posts.  

My take: anybody who doesn't think our police and criminal system is a profit machine that benefits both sides of the aisle is a clueless ideologue that doesn't follow the trail of $ and will repeat anything they are fed.   

Examples. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

Don’t see much “overpolicing”. in low crime areas.  So stupid. 

[5-Points 3,387]

15 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

See my posts above.  Ones I talk to are more in line with my thinking - it's a profit machine that is tilted towards the poor and that needs to be addressed and fixed.   Bail is a part of that, but IMO not as much of an issue as things like overpolicing has been over the decades.  

I have yet to encounter Dems in real life that want violent criminals walking the streets, but it's fun for internet fodder and clicks.  

What kind of "proffit machine" targets the poor? 

Poor people are more likely to be both perpetrators and victims of crime. That's just the way it is. 

Doing away with cash bail is dumb. The alternatives are, nobody gets locked up, or if you get locked up, you stay locked up until trial. 

Neither of those are acceptable outcomes. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

25 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Where in the world did I say bail wasn't a deterrent?   I don't know which is worse, that you are actually this incapable of reading posts or that your internet persona you use to troll people is somebody who can't read posts.  

My take: anybody who doesn't think our police and criminal system is a profit machine that benefits both sides of the aisle is a clueless ideologue that doesn't follow the trail of $ and will repeat anything they are fed.   

Can you map out the trail of bail money for all of us? 

[BuckSwope 654]

11 minutes ago, League Champion said:

You don't think there's a crime problem in those cities? 

I think crime is a problem in all cities. 

[BuckSwope 654]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Examples. 

Ferguson report. 

[BuckSwope 654]

1 minute ago, 5-Points said:

What kind of "proffit machine" targets the poor? 

Poor people are more likely to be both perpetrators and victims of crime. That's just the way it is. 

Doing away with cash bail is dumb. The alternatives are, nobody gets locked up, or if you get locked up, you stay locked up until trial. 

Neither of those are acceptable outcomes. 

I didn't use the word target, you did.  I don't think there is that much intent behind it.  

[League Champion 1,896]

6 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

I think crime is a problem in all cities. 

How about, DON'T COMMIT A CRIME and you don't have to worry about the consequences. 

It's a pretty novel concept, no? 

[seafoam1 2,799]

5 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

I didn't use the word target, you did.  I don't think there is that much intent behind it.  

So your wife randonly gets punched in the face and her jaw is broken, you whole-heartly want the offender back on the streets that afternoon.

[5-Points 3,387]

7 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

I didn't use the word target, you did.  I don't think there is that much intent behind it.  

You're right. I don't want to put words in your mouth. What did you mean by "tilted towards?" 

[5-Points 3,387]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

So your wife randonly gets punched in the face and her jaw is broken, you whole-heartly want the offender back on the streets that afternoon.

Depends. If she's a mouthy biatch, the guy may have done you a favor. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

1 minute ago, 5-Points said:

Depends. If she's a mouthy biatch, the guy may have done you a favor. 

Ok, jokes aside. Really?

[Baker Boy 1,687]

18 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

I think crime is a problem in all cities. 

I have lived in 4 different cities for an extended period of time and crime wasn’t a problem in any of them. The town I grew up in and lived for 18 years had one murder while I live there.

we don’t put up with that stuff in a small town.

[5-Points 3,387]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Ok, jokes aside. Really?

No. I would want 5 minutes with him. The cops can deal with whatever is left of him. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

I have lived in 4 different cities for an extended period of time and crime wasn’t a problem in any of them. The town I grew up in and lived for 18 years had one murder while I live there.

we don’t put up with that stuff in a small town.

Correct. I've lived in the bad and the good. The bad is always negligent as far as crime and the good is always determined to defeat it in current time.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

5 hours ago, dogcows said:

Cash bail is unjust. It’s also ineffective. Criminals who can post bail can still reoffend. Areas that eliminated cash bail did not see increases in failure to appear at trial or increases in crimes committed after arrest and before trial. It’s an outdated system that targets low-income people.

As predictable as the sun rising…

[Patented Phil 1,469]

4 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

Geek Club response:  why do you cheer on people dying in our streets??!!  

Combine that with a problem of overpolicing/policing for profit, and you have a bad system.   

Oh yeah, the system is so much better with all the LeftTard reforms the last few years.  Idiot.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

3 hours ago, Kopy said:

Your sh1t is beyond old at this point.

He’s such a despicable human being.