WHO VOTED FOR BIDEN?

[Reality 3,121]

3 hours ago, Fnord said:

The good news for you is that if Trump is successful in implementing the platform on which he is running, you may never have to vote for POTUS again after 2024. So you got that goin for ya!

What a dumb take.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,266]

6 minutes ago, Reality said:

What a dumb take.

What are they without them? 

[weepaws 3,167]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What are they without them? 

Trump supporters.  Oh the thought of supporting a wicked man like trump.  Put your trust in the Lord.  

[League Champion 1,909]

28 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Trump supporters.  Oh the thought of supporting a wicked man like trump.  Put your trust in the Lord.  

Is that a trick question? Trump is Lord 

[Dizkneelande 1,094]

4 hours ago, Reality said:

What a dumb take.

It’s why there is no hope. Too many of them think this way when the people they voted for are actual fascists. 

[weepaws 3,167]

4 hours ago, League Champion said:

Is that a trick question? Trump is Lord 

Sadly a lot of people said the same when the criminal was voted president, all of them are just fools.  

I hope before elections come around a candidate that’s worth voting for comes around.  

[Cdub100 3,887]

I'm voting for Biden in 2024. Obviously, things have not got bad enough for people so I want 4 more years of this sh1t. My family and I will be fine. I'm smart enough to know when not to relax. So yeah Make America Worse. 

[Fnord 2,189]

17 hours ago, Reality said:

What a dumb take.

Ignorance must be a real b!tch. But that's how this huckster got to where he is, so keep on supporting him, rubes.

[RLLD 4,198]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Ignorance must be a real b!tch. But that's how this huckster got to where he is, so keep on supporting him, rubes.

I think making such pronouncements though is indicative of lacking wisdom and any sense of critical thought.  This is what the media and Democrats like to toss out to scare you, but its really no different than calling Hillary a child trafficker....

I would urge you to resist.  Let's not allow the extremes out there to have this much oxygen.  These are obvious fallacies that we need to keep at arms length.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,266]

Trump has 75 million votes and counting in his pocket. This terrifies the left. He increased his vote count by 12 million last time. After the country getting it in the ass everytime they get gas and groceries and the left telling them the economy is doing great, you can expect that number to grow. And a less enthused turnout for an old, corrupt, incompetent Biden that has been mumbling and stumbling for the last four years. 

[Fnord 2,189]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

I think making such pronouncements though is indicative of lacking wisdom and any sense of critical thought.  This is what the media and Democrats like to toss out to scare you, but its really no different than calling Hillary a child trafficker....

I would urge you to resist.  Let's not allow the extremes out there to have this much oxygen.  These are obvious fallacies that we need to keep at arms length.

I appreciate your reasoning, and consider you to be one of the best posters here when it comes to political discussion. But Trump isn't making this a secret. He's actively campaigning on this. Sorry, but if you think Biden's DOJ is railroading Trump but you're going to turn around and vote FOR Trump, you're a hypocritical fool at best.

[Fnord 2,189]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump has 75 million votes and counting in his pocket. This terrifies the left. He increased his vote count by 12 million last time. After the country getting it in the ass everytime they get gas and groceries and the left telling them the economy is doing great, you can expect that number to grow. And a less enthused turnout for an old, corrupt, incompetent Biden that has been mumbling and stumbling for the last four years. 

You keep saying this, but it's not true. Just more evidence that MAGAmooks believe what they're told without any independent thought. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,266]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

You keep saying this, but it's not true. Just more evidence that MAGAmooks believe what they're told without any independent thought. 

He didn’t get 75 million votes last time? Just tell me he didn’t. 

[Fnord 2,189]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He didn’t get 75 million votes last time? Just tell me he didn’t. 

JFC you are obtuse. They aren't "in his pocket" just because that's how many he got last time. This has been explained to you at least a dozen times. You just don't listen because it runs contrary to your feelings. MAGAmooks and their feelings are never to be questioned!

[RLLD 4,198]

7 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I appreciate your reasoning, and consider you to be one of the best posters here when it comes to political discussion. But Trump isn't making this a secret. He's actively campaigning on this. Sorry, but if you think Biden's DOJ is railroading Trump but you're going to turn around and vote FOR Trump, you're a hypocritical fool at best.

While I would absolutely vote for Trump, it would be to get back to the sane and logical policies.  Now I will admit that the incessant targeting of Trump is both tiresome and obviously politically-motivated, I presume its just more of the same in that dirty tricks are as much a part of politics as fish are to water.

What i do not think liberals/Democrats/media are yet appreciating is the "over doing it" nature of their behaviors.  It really comes across badly, the lack of restraint now is just way too much.

The disparities, across the board, are just too much.....

[Wade Garrett 155]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

While I would absolutely vote for Trump, it would be to get back to the sane and logical policies.  Now I will admit that the incessant targeting of Trump is both tiresome and obviously politically-motivated, I presume its just more of the same in that dirty tricks are as much a part of politics as fish are to water.

What i do not think liberals/Democrats/media are yet appreciating is the "over doing it" nature of their behaviors.  It really comes across badly, the lack of restraint now is just way too much.

The disparities, across the board, are just too much.....

You were happy with Trump spending $3.8T on covid the year before inflation exploded?

How about adding $8T to the debt in just 4 years?  Think that had an impact on inflation?

How about bullying the Fed to LOWER rates in '19 during "booming" times?  Think that had an impact on inflation?

Oh wait, it's Bidens $1.9T covid bill that caused the inflation that Biden has since brought down right?

[Fnord 2,189]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

While I would absolutely vote for Trump, it would be to get back to the sane and logical policies.  Now I will admit that the incessant targeting of Trump is both tiresome and obviously politically-motivated, I presume its just more of the same in that dirty tricks are as much a part of politics as fish are to water.

What i do not think liberals/Democrats/media are yet appreciating is the "over doing it" nature of their behaviors.  It really comes across badly, the lack of restraint now is just way too much.

The disparities, across the board, are just too much.....

So you're okay justifying the Democratic overreach as an eye for an eye scenario? With Trump being the prosecutory engine of the DOJ to exact his vengeance?

What could possibly go wrong?

[RLLD 4,198]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

You were happy with Trump spending $3.8T on covid the year before inflation exploded?

How about adding $8T to the debt in just 4 years?  Think that had an impact on inflation?

How about bullying the Fed to LOWER rates in '19 during "booming" times?  Think that had an impact on inflation?

Oh wait, it's Bidens $1.9T covid bill that caused the inflation that Biden has since brought down right?

I am eager to reinstate 

America gained 7 million new jobs far exceeding all projections
Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000, more than five times gains during the entire previous administration.
The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century.
Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job-hirings.
More Americans reported being employed than ever before (almost160 million)
Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low.
for the first time in nearly 3 decades incomes rose in every single metro area in the United States
Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those without a high school diploma all reached record lows.
Unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in nearly 70 years.
Lifted nearly 7 million people off of food stamps.
Poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached record lows.
Income inequality fell for two straight years, and by the largest amount in over a decade
African American homeownership increased from 41.7 percent to 46.4 percent.
During the third quarter of 2020, the economy grew at a rate of 33.1%, the most rapid GDP growth ever recorded.
Tax Cuts and Jobs Act
Doubled the standard deduction making the first $24,000 earned by a married couple completely tax-free.
Doubled the child tax credit.
Cut the business tax rate from 35 percent – the highest in the developed world – all the way down to 21 percent.
Small businesses allowed deduct 20 percent of their business income.
Businesses allowed deduct 100 percent of the cost of their capital investments in the year the investment is made.
Over $1.5 trillion was repatriated into the United States from overseas.
Created nearly 9,000 Opportunity Zones where capital gains on long-term investments are taxed at zero.Approximately 1 million Americans will be lifted from poverty as a result of these new investments.
Immediately withdrew from the job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).
Ended the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), and replaced it with the brand new United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA).
Returned 56 hostages and detainees from more than 24 countries.
Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Nuclear Deal and imposed crippling sanctions on the Iranian Regime.
Conducted vigorous enforcement on all sanctions to bring Iran’s oil exports to zero and deny the regime its principal source of revenue

[RLLD 4,198]

5 minutes ago, Fnord said:

So you're okay justifying the Democratic overreach as an eye for an eye scenario? With Trump being the prosecutory engine of the DOJ to exact his vengeance?

What could possibly go wrong?

I am hopeful that there is not an eye for an eye, as i have alrady indicated elsewhere.  I previously posted that I want him to clean out the DOJ, but not under the umbrella of vengerance, even if it would be jutstified

[Hardcore troubadour 15,266]

10 minutes ago, Fnord said:

JFC you are obtuse. They aren't "in his pocket" just because that's how many he got last time. This has been explained to you at least a dozen times. You just don't listen because it runs contrary to your feelings. MAGAmooks and their feelings are never to be questioned!

Oh. So you think the 75 million people that voted for him last time won’t this time? Why? Because Biden has done such a good job? Lol. 

[Wade Garrett 155]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I am eager to reinstate 

America gained 7 million new jobs far exceeding all projections
Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000, more than five times gains during the entire previous administration.
The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century.
Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job-hirings.
More Americans reported being employed than ever before (almost160 million)
Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low.
for the first time in nearly 3 decades incomes rose in every single metro area in the United States
Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those without a high school diploma all reached record lows.
Unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in nearly 70 years.
Lifted nearly 7 million people off of food stamps.
Poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached record lows.
Income inequality fell for two straight years, and by the largest amount in over a decade
African American homeownership increased from 41.7 percent to 46.4 percent.
During the third quarter of 2020, the economy grew at a rate of 33.1%, the most rapid GDP growth ever recorded.
Tax Cuts and Jobs Act
Doubled the standard deduction making the first $24,000 earned by a married couple completely tax-free.
Doubled the child tax credit.
Cut the business tax rate from 35 percent – the highest in the developed world – all the way down to 21 percent.
Small businesses allowed deduct 20 percent of their business income.
Businesses allowed deduct 100 percent of the cost of their capital investments in the year the investment is made.
Over $1.5 trillion was repatriated into the United States from overseas.
Created nearly 9,000 Opportunity Zones where capital gains on long-term investments are taxed at zero.Approximately 1 million Americans will be lifted from poverty as a result of these new investments.
Immediately withdrew from the job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).
Ended the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), and replaced it with the brand new United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA).
Returned 56 hostages and detainees from more than 24 countries.
Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Nuclear Deal and imposed crippling sanctions on the Iranian Regime.
Conducted vigorous enforcement on all sanctions to bring Iran’s oil exports to zero and deny the regime its principal source of revenue

I asked very specific questions.  Virtually each of the "accomplishments" above were undone by his horrid covid response.

Now thoughts on the very specific questions I asked?

Oh and btw, Biden's unemployment is lower than Trump ever saw across every metric.  I guess you'll be giving Biden tons of love now?

[Wade Garrett 155]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh. So you think the 75 million people that voted for him last time won’t this time? Why? Because Biden has done such a good job? Lol. 

How's the country now compared to when Trump slunk away?

DId you like negative 2% GDP?  6.7% unemployment?  $3.8T spent on covid?  $8T added to the debt?  Business closed, masks required, top 10 worst covid deaths per capita, etc.

Biden has literally reversed and corrected all of that.  The American economy is booming boyo.

Unless your head is stuck up some orange moron's as* that is...

LMFAO

[Hardcore troubadour 15,266]

My wife told me the grocery bill has really shot up. I told her the GDP is doing fine. 

[Wade Garrett 155]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

My wife told me the grocery bill has really shot up. I told her the GDP is doing fine. 

Gee, which president added $8T to the debt, ruined supply chains, spent $3.8T on covid, and bullied the fed to lower rates in '19...oh wait, that was Trump...

LOL, do you blame Obama for the '08 near depression?  It happened when he was president...LOL

[Hardcore troubadour 15,266]

2 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Gee, which president added $8T to the debt, ruined supply chains, spent $3.8T on covid, and bullied the fed to lower rates in '19...oh wait, that was Trump...

LOL, do you blame Obama for the '08 near depression?  It happened when he was president...LOL

Obama took office in 09. So no. 

[RLLD 4,198]

1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

I asked very specific questions.  Virtually each of the "accomplishments" above were undone by his horrid covid response.

Now thoughts on the very specific questions I asked?

Oh and btw, Biden's unemployment is lower than Trump ever saw across every metric.  I guess you'll be giving Biden tons of love now?

OK, I see you want to target some specific things that bother you. Makes sense, I have other things that bother me about him, but since no candidate is perfect we often have to pick what is hopefully the least destructive.

You were happy with Trump spending $3.8T on covid the year before inflation exploded?   I was not

How about adding $8T to the debt in just 4 years?  Think that had an impact on inflation?   Yes, there was much to repair from the Obama administration

How about bullying the Fed to LOWER rates in '19 during "booming" times?  Think that had an impact on inflation?  The Fed policy on rate is something I have covered in THOROUGH DETAIl over the years. I have been notably discontent with Fed behaviors going back to the mid-90s, and vocal about it here as well

Oh wait, it's Bidens $1.9T covid bill that caused the inflation that Biden has since brought down right?  Your point is curious, are you actually concerned about inflation or just who introduces it?  I mean, when it became obvious that actions were inflationary, many people called it out.....the right move would then of course be to NOT foment it....but Biden, even though armed with the right information ignored this.....then pretended it wasnt true.....then tried to pretend it was "transitory".   I could be equally mad at both, or a little more mad at the one who had the ability to make it less imapctful but refused....

[Wade Garrett 155]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

OK, I see you want to target some specific things that bother you. Makes sense, I have other things that bother me about him, but since no candidate is perfect we often have to pick what is hopefully the least destructive.

You were happy with Trump spending $3.8T on covid the year before inflation exploded?   I was not

How about adding $8T to the debt in just 4 years?  Think that had an impact on inflation?   Yes, there was much to repair from the Obama administration

How about bullying the Fed to LOWER rates in '19 during "booming" times?  Think that had an impact on inflation?  The Fed policy on rate is something I have covered in THOROUGH DETAIl over the years. I have been notably discontent with Fed behaviors going back to the mid-90s, and vocal about it here as well

Oh wait, it's Bidens $1.9T covid bill that caused the inflation that Biden has since brought down right?  Your point is curious, are you actually concerned about inflation or just who introduces it?  I mean, when it became obvious that actions were inflationary, many people called it out.....the right move would then of course be to NOT foment it....but Biden, even though armed with the right information ignored this.....then pretended it wasnt true.....then tried to pretend it was "transitory".   I could be equally mad at both, or a little more mad at the one who had the ability to make it less imapctful but refused....

Wait wait.  There was much to repair from Obama the Great's admin?  You mean like unemployment trending down YOY so much that Trump barely lowered it in 3 years?  You mean like average GDP Obama's last 4 years that was essentially the same as Trump's first 3?  You mean like Obama's much lower addition to the debt his last 4 years vs Trump's first 3.

And I'm glad to see that you agree that Trump is 80% responsible for the inflation that Biden fixed.  I'm also glad you can admit that no president can really impact inflation in less than a years time.  It takes time for the macroeconomic impact to roll through the economy.  And there's those darn supply chains that Trump completely botched.  Remember all those empty store shelves?  Oh yea, Biden fixed that too...

Wow, I knew you were a partisan hack but holy smokes...SMH

[Wade Garrett 155]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Obama took office in 09. So no. 

Why don't you blame Obama since the bulk of the near deprecesson manifested itself in '09 - '11?  GDP was flat in '08 and negative 2.6% in '09.  Unemployment went from 5.8% to 9.3% from '08 to '09.

Damn that Obama really phuked things up right?

LMFAO

[RLLD 4,198]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

Wait wait.  There was much to repair from Obama the Great's admin?  You mean like unemployment trending down YOY so much that Trump barely lowered it in 3 years?  You mean like average GDP Obama's last 4 years that was essentially the same as Trump's first 3?  You mean like Obama's much lower addition to the debt his last 4 years vs Trump's first 3.

And I'm glad to see that you agree that Trump is 80% responsible for the inflation that Biden fixed.  I'm also glad you can admit that no president can really impact inflation in less than a years time.  It takes time for the macroeconomic impact to roll through the economy.  And there's those darn supply chains that Trump completely botched.  Remember all those empty store shelves?  Oh yea, Biden fixed that too...

Wow, I knew you were a partisan hack but holy smokes...SMH

Correct there was some work to be done for sure, and I was grateful that it was being done.  Of course I prefer less spending, and I lamented the need for it at the time.  And also opposed the needless COVID money as well, as has already been covered. Again, no President is perfect or can address all the needs of all people, but can help many if they choose.  I love that Trump made incredible strides with unemployment, and though COVID really diminished that, I think it could be recovered, but it really need not be Trump...anyone can step back in and deliver his policies, and that is all I really want. 

I see that you really seem to have a pointed problem with Trump, I guess I get that, I am just not on the train of pretending one guy did it all or anything like that.  I know there are those out there who tout Trump, or Biden and pretend these guys are somehow "good" I think people like you add value to the overal conversation. 

[Wade Garrett 155]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Correct there was some work to be done for sure, and I was grateful that it was being done.  Of course I prefer less spending, and I lamented the need for it at the time.  And also opposed the needless COVID money as well, as has already been covered. Again, no President is perfect or can address all the needs of all people, but can help many if they choose.  I love that Trump made incredible strides with unemployment, and though COVID really diminished that, I think it could be recovered, but it really need not be Trump...anyone can step back in and deliver his policies, and that is all I really want. 

I see that you really seem to have a pointed problem with Trump, I guess I get that, I am just not on the train of pretending one guy did it all or anything like that.  I know there are those out there who tout Trump, or Biden and pretend these guys are somehow "good" I think people like you add value to the overal conversation. 

I'm pretty sure you have blamed Biden for the inflation that he fixed.  I'm glad I was able to put you on the correct page that inflation that Biden fixed was largely started and nurtured during Trump's ridiculous spending plus his bullying the Fed.

Let's look at what BIden has done.  He let the Fed do it's work despite the negative impact to the market and the overall economy.  Now we're sitting on a super strong economy with actual interest rates that can be adjusted to help the economy if needed.  This is the complete opposite of Trump's constant crying about interest rates and their impact on his stock market.

Biden and the Fed have achieved a soft landing and the US is so much stronger economically than the rest of the first world it's ridiculous.

There are areas to criticize Biden, the economy ain't one of them.  He took over a dumpster fire and two years later we're back to strong.

Thanks Joe!

[RLLD 4,198]

3 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I'm pretty sure you have blamed Biden for the inflation that he fixed.  I'm glad I was able to put you on the correct page that inflation that Biden fixed was largely started and nurtured during Trump's ridiculous spending plus his bullying the Fed.

Let's look at what BIden has done.  He let the Fed do it's work despite the negative impact to the market and the overall economy.  Now we're sitting on a super strong economy with actual interest rates that can be adjusted to help the economy if needed.  This is the complete opposite of Trump's constant crying about interest rates and their impact on his stock market.

Biden and the Fed have achieved a soft landing and the US is so much stronger economically than the rest of the first world it's ridiculous.

There are areas to criticize Biden, the economy ain't one of them.  He took over a dumpster fire and two years later we're back to strong.

Thanks Joe!

I did, it was obvious at the time that his moves would foment inflation, but he chose to do it anyway.  Ok, I get it.  But when it came time to deal with the inflation.....he LIED to us....pretended it wasnt true.....then he LIED again, straight to our faces, and called it "transitory"....so yeah, I sorta had an issue with that.

Now the Fed, whom I would normally assail, has actually done a pretty decent job of dealing with this situation. I am surprised and a little gratified that they have stepped in and are taking suitable actions.

I am also gratified at some of the stonewalling, such as from Manchin, to protect us for a little while from Biden throwing gas on this thing, to include the misguided student loan nonsense.  Now is not the time to be reckless. 

To pretend that Biden handled this well is to ignore the palpable harm he inflicted on the lower classes, and I am not ready to do that just yet. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,266]

I was pumping gas the other day and the guy next to me said “damn price of gas is through the roof” I said “whoa big fella, you need to get an EV”. He said “ they’re really expensive and if I have to take out a loan to get one the interest rate is really high”. “I said listen , democracy in Ukraine and global warming, don’t be so selfish, poor”. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,266]

28 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Why don't you blame Obama since the bulk of the near deprecesson manifested itself in '09 - '11?  GDP was flat in '08 and negative 2.6% in '09.  Unemployment went from 5.8% to 9.3% from '08 to '09.

Damn that Obama really phuked things up right?

LMFAO

I didn’t say that. That’s some fantasy conversation you’re having with yourself. 

[League Champion 1,909]

 

[League Champion 1,909]

On 8/7/2023 at 10:50 AM, Wade Garrett said:

Bidens

 

[Wade Garrett 155]

Just now, League Champion said:

 

Oh SNAP!  LeaugeLoser can't handle paying 3.2% more for stuff.  I guess being a trannie obsessed moron doesn't pay as much as most jobs that are seeing income gains that crush inflation...

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[League Champion 1,909]

 

 

[Wade Garrett 155]

1 minute ago, League Champion said:

 

 

You realize that Trump is a convicted rapist right?

LOLOLOLOL

[seafoam1 2,922]

2 minutes ago, League Champion said:

 

 

Dude is a sick fock. Look at the intensity in his eyes as he goes in for the kiss. He showered with her when she was like 8 years old. Fock. He should be jailed and given capital punishment soon after.

[Engorgeous George 2,284]

On 8/10/2023 at 4:30 PM, Wade Garrett said:

Oh SNAP!  LeaugeLoser can't handle paying 3.2% more for stuff.  I guess being a trannie obsessed moron doesn't pay as much as most jobs that are seeing income gains that crush inflation...

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

I do not believe that is true.  Perhaps you could edify me.