KSB2424 3,148 Posted October 13, 2023 And over the past 75 years no side isn’t without faults and blood on their hands. This isn’t a game of absolutes. However if you look at a map there is a massive swath and number of Arab countries. Over 20 Arab countries in and around that region of the world. Israel, the only Jewish state in the world is a tiny dot on the map in comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 13, 2023 A New York University law student has had a job offer rescinded by a top law firm and was voted out as president of the school's Student Bar Association after stating that Israel is to blame for the Hamas attacks that have killed more than 1,000 Israelis. "Israel bears full responsibility for this tremendous loss of life," wrote Ryna Workman in the Student Bar Association newsletter. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nyu-law-student-israel-hamas-ryna-workman-harvard/ CANCELLED! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: No. Hostages released or we bomb. Enough. I mean our war ships are already over there. Might as well get something for that mileage. Maybe wait until some of them Arab countries have another Hamas rally with hundreds of thousands gathered in one spot. Poof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: No. Hostages released or we bomb. Enough. We? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 13, 2023 All the tools that don't want us doing anything to support Ukraine sure got some chubbs to kill some Arabs and join in this war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,932 Posted October 13, 2023 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: We? Yeah. The United States. That’s my team. I’m on it. You’re not. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: All the tools that don't want us doing anything to support Ukraine sure got some chubbs to kill some Arabs and join in this war. We're just brainstorming here Ms. Tiny No Solutions. Throwing ideas up and see if they stick. No bad ideas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,127 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/7/2023 at 9:09 PM, KSB2424 said: Money is fungible. Knowing you have 6B coming soon frees up other money already in pocket. Is it the only reason, of course not. However you’d have to be devoid of all reason and common sense to think it’s just a weird coincidence. You really believe $6b in frozen funds kept one of the world’s largest GDPs from funding Hamas? Should we have not exchanged those funds for five Americans? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,196 Posted October 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I’d also like to take it to the source. Tell Iran if we don’t get our people back most Ricky-tick then we will drop a few bombs on their industrial areas. And keep doing it until we do. Let’s get this over with with them. Take the gloves off finally. Instead of trading hostages for terrorists, maybe Hamas would be willing to trade them for food. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,932 Posted October 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: All the tools that don't want us doing anything to support Ukraine sure got some chubbs to kill some Arabs and join in this war. I’d like to get Americans being held hostage back before they are tortured, killed and put on display. You’re worried about the other side. I wish someone in your family was being hostage instead of the ones that are. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,127 Posted October 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: All the tools that don't want us doing anything to support Ukraine sure got some chubbs to kill some Arabs and join in this war. I’m one of those tools. But I’d like to stay out of this conflict too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 248 Posted October 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: We? Such a perfect response. Lol. You are such a nozzle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yeah. The United States. That’s my team. I’m on it. You’re not. So you want the US to bomb Gaza because they might have some US hostages? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: We're just brainstorming here Ms. Tiny No Solutions. Throwing ideas up and see if they stick. No bad ideas. No they're all bad ideas, but carry on, it's entertaining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, jonnyutah said: Such a perfect response. Lol. You are such a nozzle. This is not our war you focking dope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: We? 2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: So you want the US to bomb Gaza because they might have some US hostages? Foking guy still cant follow along. Just ignore Tiny Brain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, MDC said: I’m one of those tools. But I’d like to stay out of this conflict too. Well then that doesn't make you a tool, because you're consistent. You know who I'm talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 13, 2023 1 minute ago, RogerDodger said: Foking guy still cant follow along. Wanna bet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I wish someone in your family was being hostage instead of the ones that are. Of course you do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,564 Posted October 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: A New York University law student has had a job offer rescinded by a top law firm and was voted out as president of the school's Student Bar Association after stating that Israel is to blame for the Hamas attacks that have killed more than 1,000 Israelis. "Israel bears full responsibility for this tremendous loss of life," wrote Ryna Workman in the Student Bar Association newsletter. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nyu-law-student-israel-hamas-ryna-workman-harvard/ CANCELLED! Ryna is apparently non-binary. These cats really love the people that would happily stone them to death as they scream, "wait! I'm on your team!" Weird. I guess the idea is that they're cool with others beliefs even if it means killing people for being gay? I guess the more likely scenario is they identify with other professional victims Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,932 Posted October 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: So you want the US to bomb Gaza because they might have some US hostages? Iran. Read mutha fuka. Read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,932 Posted October 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Of course you do. Yup. And i would still want to get them out. But you having to see what it’s like might teach you to have a little sympathy for victims. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,564 Posted October 13, 2023 So I don't get how this is Israel's fault. What's the deal there? My understanding is that Egypt and Jordan decided they wanted to cut Israel off to international waterways back in the 60's. Israel then decided to take the waterways resulting in a war. As part of the ending of the conflict, Egypt and Jordan in a stroke of genius ceded the Gaza strip and west bank making these crazies Israel's problem. Since then, these Palestinian territories have made absolutely no secret that they want to wipe Israel off the map. I'm obviously missing something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 13, 2023 They stomp retards in Paris. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 13, 2023 30 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: No. Hostages released or we bomb. Enough. Iran still has US hostages? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yup. And i would still want to get them out. But you having to see what it’s like might teach you to have a little sympathy for victims. Like the sympathy you have for the victims that you want to bomb? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted October 13, 2023 27 minutes ago, nobody said: So I don't get how this is Israel's fault. What's the deal there? My understanding is that Egypt and Jordan decided they wanted to cut Israel off to international waterways back in the 60's. Israel then decided to take the waterways resulting in a war. As part of the ending of the conflict, Egypt and Jordan in a stroke of genius ceded the Gaza strip and west bank making these crazies Israel's problem. Since then, these Palestinian territories have made absolutely no secret that they want to wipe Israel off the map. I'm obviously missing something. You’re not. Israel has its fair share of blood on its hands but it’s 9 times out of 10 in retaliation. Even other Arab countries don’t want these crazies. Choosing sides here is pretty easy. It’s the side that doesn’t want me killed. Not sure what the other dudes are talking about. It’s like Stockholm Syndrome or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,932 Posted October 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Like the sympathy you have for the victims that you want to bomb? I said industrial areas, and to give them warning. Why can’t you keep up? Two pump chump. Get all excited when you see a post from me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted October 13, 2023 Is anyone the least bit concerned about a Sleeper Cell of Russians killing Americans here? Or Jews? Or Hindu? Or literally anyone else but Radical Muslim terrorists. Hamas supporters or apologists? Like this guy. https://x.com/atensnut/status/1712544054213488780?s=46&t=r0y3bJ1CDXchoYAztDxmqw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Iran still has US hostages? Oh holy fok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,932 Posted October 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: This is not our war you focking dope. It’s our hostages you idiot. Let me break it down for you. I’ll even talk nerd so you might be able to get it. Iran is the Death Star. All terrorism emanates from them. It’s terror HQ. They also Fock with our ships in the Persian gulf and guess who is providing the drones that Russia is using against your beloved Ukraine ? Yeah, Iran. Enough out of them. It’s about time they got a taste. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Horseshoe 348 Posted October 13, 2023 8 hours ago, TheNewGirl said: So those who support Palestine can openly support killing and terrorism; there's video of people in London screaming out windows to kill all Jews, Fock the Jews, etc. This is the SAME group that calls for immediate laws to be protected, cancellation and "lynching" of people who burn the LGBTQ flag. Where is the "love and tolerance" for all? Help me understand this. The "Western culture" is typically not one that favors open social confrontation. As a general rule. However the younger generations are seeing a massive shift in that long established thought process. What you have are many "traditional liberals" who are likely a little bit older, who just say nothing at all most of the time. They just don't want the argument and fight. And you have the "activist radical leftists" who are far more aggressive, don't hold to some basic social norms about decorum, and keep on the attack. In effect, it's a small number of people driving the hard edge on public policy. The average staffer for Team Blue, we are talking the rank and file, the nuts and bolts of any elected officials office, is usually young college educated and comes from an upper middle class background. Many have never worked in any other field before. The average age, IIRC, is about 27. Obviously there are some really old people who skew the averages a little, but campaigns want young people as foot soldiers. It's a hard life working in politics, and like war, it's just easier to recruit and use up young people. You can see how "student loan forgiveness" makes little to no sense to the American population across the whole ( 340+ million people) But if the pressure points are coming from young college educated liberals and leftists as the nuts and bolts of the Party, you can see how things like pushing for electric vehicles, and a cashless society, and just ignoring the average working class can happen really easily. Put it this way, James Daulton/RavensFan/Wade Garrett showed up and was a troll and jerk. I confronted him. I started a thread to confront him and archive his behavior. Long term, it got that Wade Garrett account banned. But what if no one said anything? He'd just keep it up. As it is, right now, thread and posts are disappearing, so WG and others are likely gaming the Report Button with their other aliases. So you only need a small handful of toxic people to turn any community, at any scale, into a toilet. For example, at the "other place", timschochet was just one person. But he had countless aliases and like 250K total posts from all his accounts, and he was in every single thread. He attacked everyone. He's not representative of all the traditional liberals out there who are silent. But it might look that way because a small subset are the most aggressive. The average voter is actually pretty moderate in most things. There might be some push/pull over some single voter type issues, but there is some general agreement on many things in the political spectrum. "Bomb throwers", that's the term, are functionally rewarded for their behavior. Otherwise they wouldn't do it. In generations past, they'd be socially punished and ostracized for being toxic. But now it's a badge of honor. There are just people with a gross level of entitlement. They virtue signal without facing the insidious reality that they want to do purity tests to determine which virtues should matter for everyone else. I don't see it as so much partisanship ( though that's a factor) as much as the accepted breakdown of basic social boundaries. Obviously many of the worst bad faith actors at the "other place" and here, even some of the transplants, have a huge problem with me. Because I don't have a problem with confrontation. But they expect everyone else to back down. And will keep attacking until others are silent. The "average person", the answer is not to be confrontational, because that's generally not within most people. The average person should just ignore and demonetize. For example, these major universities, many of them have high level faculty or staff who get into really ugly messes that ride hard against basic free speech. Or they are into the cancel culture. OK, who are the major donors for that university? Hit them all. Hit them in the wallet, until they pressure the university to change their tune. There is no "love and tolerance", there is only leverage. You'll find zealots are usually mentally weak. Hit them in their wallets or hit other people around them in their wallets and you'll see the tune change quickly. Everyone is a tough guy until they've lost their career, they have been financially destroyed and now they are homeless and have nowhere to go. When you see someone stripped bare and they still ride the line to their "principles", then IMHO they are worthy of regard ( Not respect per se, but regard) At least they are willing to bleed for it. Most zealots are like children. They'll push the line again and again and violate boundaries to see how far they can go before someone stops them. Confront them. Or demonetize them. Doing both is actually the best and fastest course to take, but ignore and demonetize is consistently effective. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Oh holy fok. Who are the hostages? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It’s our hostages you idiot. Let me break it down for you. I’ll even talk nerd so you might be able to get it. Iran is the Death Star. All terrorism emanates from them. It’s terror HQ. They also Fock with our ships in the Persian gulf and guess who is providing the drones that Russia is using against your beloved Ukraine ? Yeah, Iran. Enough out of them. It’s about time they got a taste. So you want to start a war with Iran. Makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,288 Posted October 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: They stomp retards in Paris. "Vive la France!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,932 Posted October 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: So you want to start a war with Iran. Makes sense. They’re already at war with us, if you hadn’t noticed. I want our people back. They caused it, they can unfock it or catch a few bombs. What are they gonna do that they aren’t doing already? You worried about them storming the beaches of Cape May? And let them know in the future if they want to take hostages no money. Bombs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 13, 2023 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: They’re already at war with us, if you hadn’t noticed. I want our people back. They caused it, they can unfock it or catch a few bombs. What are they gonna do that they aren’t doing already? You worried about them storming the beaches of Cape May? I'm still trying to figure out what people they have of ours. I keep hearing they have hostages but Google says they don't. What says you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Who are the hostages? Let me get this straight. HT: We should bomb Iranian industrial areas to get our hostages back. Bonus Boy: We? HT: US BB: You want to bomb Gaza to get our hostages back. HT: No, IRAN BB: No sympathy for all the victims? HT: INDUSTRIALS BB: Iran still has US hostages? Everyone: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,932 Posted October 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: I'm still trying to figure out what people they have of ours. I keep hearing they have hostages but Google says they don't. What says you? So you think Hamas and Iran have nothing to do with each other ? Why are you posting if you don’t know the relationship? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,932 Posted October 13, 2023 1 minute ago, RogerDodger said: Let me get this straight. HT: We should bomb Iranian industrial areas to bet our hostages back. Bonus Boy: We? HT: US BB: You want to bomb Gaza to get our hostages back. HT: No, IRAN BB: No sympathy for all the victims? HT: INDUSTRIALS BB: Iran still has US hostages? Everyone: It’s unbelievable. I even made a Star Wars reference to help Waldo out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites