Cdub100 3,891 Posted March 1, 2024 Just now, thegeneral said: Matty G could probably leave those questions for some dried up ol bag who goes to church 3 times a week. Logical fallacy. The fact you're attacking the question asker and not the truth from that question says a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,121 Posted March 1, 2024 Just now, Cdub100 said: Logical fallacy. The fact you're attacking the question asker and not the truth from that question says a lot. Red Tie team got Hunter to talk to them for like 6 hours. It’s not my fault they suck at it. They continue to look like idiots. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,121 Posted March 1, 2024 You guys have a pair of village idiots running this thing - Jim Jordan and James Cormer so wouldn’t really expect much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,275 Posted March 1, 2024 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: You guys have a pair of village idiots running this thing - Jim Jordan and James Cormer so wouldn’t really expect much. Sure wish we had some all pro-s like Swallwell and Schift. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,121 Posted March 1, 2024 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Sure wish we had some all pro-s like Swallwell and Schift. Logical fallacy derp derp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,438 Posted March 1, 2024 1 hour ago, BeachGuy23 said: When did this payment from China to Biden supposedly occur? They started setting up the investment firms as early as 2014. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted March 1, 2024 59 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: It never did. It all went to the bank. The Bidens are totally innocent. I mean it sure seems that way. What kind of evidence do you have that Joe is dirty? Sure Hunter traded on Joe's name. But not a crime and happens each and every day across all walks of politics. Until you can prove that Joe was given cash to influence policy or at least hear policy proposals from foreign countries you've got nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted March 1, 2024 12 minutes ago, Horseman said: They started setting up the investment firms as early as 2014. But the vast majority of the accusations occured when Biden wasn't in office, correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,891 Posted March 1, 2024 14 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: I mean it sure seems that way. What kind of evidence do you have that Joe is dirty? Sure Hunter traded on Joe's name. But not a crime and happens each and every day across all walks of politics. Until you can prove that Joe was given cash to influence policy or at least hear policy proposals from foreign countries you've got nothing. Joe Biden is clean. Just ask his daughter who he showers with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted March 1, 2024 7 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Joe Biden is clean. Just ask his daughter who he showers with. LOL I'd post up pics of Trump with his hands all over a young Ivanka, but what's the point. I don't like Joe, I wish he'd go away, but these kind of comments based on a stolen diary entry are silly. Also remember that Trump and Epstein were best buds for over a decade. So neither POS candidate can claim the high road here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,275 Posted March 1, 2024 39 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Joe Biden is clean. Just ask his daughter who he showers with. She said him molesting her was why she had so many issues in her teens and adulthood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,275 Posted March 1, 2024 Baby bro Dimed him out. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,333 Posted March 1, 2024 9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: She said him molesting her was why she had so many issues in her teens and adulthood. She did not say that you focking lying piece of sh1t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,275 Posted March 1, 2024 12 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: She did not say that you focking lying piece of sh1t. Yes she did. Unless you consider showering with her not molestation. Of course you do, I forgot who I’m talking to. Anyway, she said in her diary that her father issues led her to be a hore and a druggie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,438 Posted March 1, 2024 1 hour ago, BeachGuy23 said: But the vast majority of the accusations occured when Biden wasn't in office, correct? I think it's accurate to say the vast majority of money that made it's way into Hunter's business accounts happened in 2017. It appears that most of the money before that went into Devin Archer's account (who is about to spend time in prison). Then he would do things like you know, wire money to a car dealership in the exact amount of $142,300 to pay for a Porsche that Hunter would pick up the next day. The day prior at a dinner for "Work Food Program" it happened to be Hunter's birthday. Yelena Baurina (who just gave Devin 3.5 million dollars) was there, so was Kenes Rakishev and of course Devin Archer. The only reason Joe Biden attended the dinner was to say hi to everyone because it was Hunter's birthday. It doesn't count as a meeting with Hunter's business partners while being the Vice President of the United State. Remember when it was just phone calls on speaker at the dinners? Again in 2014 Joe Biden is at another "World Food Program" attended by board of directors of Burisma including Vadym Pozharsky shortly after they hired Hunter on approx 1 million dollar salary. Joe, he had a coke, spaghetti, said hi and left. That's it. So yeah, it might be hard to really tie money going directly to Joe, but we already know his influence got Hunter that job. At first it was no knowledge, never met any of Hunter's business partners. Never even talked about it. Now it turns out that Joe has met a bunch of them, but, they just met a dinners and functions. Not a business meeting. "Met" not a "meeting". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,438 Posted March 1, 2024 28 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: She did not say that you focking lying piece of sh1t. "Being sexualized at a young age" Among many other things listed, "showers with dad, probably inappropriate". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,275 Posted March 1, 2024 3 minutes ago, Horseman said: "Being sexualized at a young age" Among many other things listed, "showers with dad, probably inappropriate". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,438 Posted March 1, 2024 Whatever you think about the impeachment inquiry, we can all agree Hunter just perjured himself. Right? Quote Right now, I'm sure you are happy to hear, is that I am clean and sober. I've been clean and sober since June 1st of 2019, and I remain so today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,333 Posted March 1, 2024 10 minutes ago, Horseman said: "Being sexualized at a young age" Among many other things listed, "showers with dad, probably inappropriate". So she never said her dad molested her. Thanks for proving HT a lying piece of disgusting shite Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted March 1, 2024 While conservatives of course make the worst possible assumptions from the lines of diaries and texts that were stolen, I ain't defending Joe's fathering ability. At least two of his kids are foked up and even his damn dag bites people all the time. Dude is clearly not father of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,438 Posted March 1, 2024 2 hours ago, thegeneral said: When Matt Gaetz got his turn and asked Hunter if he was using drugs while working… HB: Mr. Gaetz, look me in the eye. You really think that’s appropriate to ask me? MG: Absolutely HB: Of all the people sitting around this table, do you think that’s appropriate to ask me? Matt Gaetz certainly has the lack of self awareness and gall required to be a greasy politician It's a fair question when every bit of evidence that's self incriminating for him he played the addict card. Including the "my father is sitting next to me right now". Drugged out and can't remember things like that calls into question the possibility of taking bribes when employed by Burisma who was under investigation for doing just that. Either you're a high functioning addict or you're not. Can't have it both ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,438 Posted March 1, 2024 7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: So she never said her dad molested her. Thanks for proving HT a lying piece of disgusting shite I'll let you play your semantics games, but yeah in addition to dad, certain neighbors that would come over and bad boyfriends she was "sexualized" enough that the trauma keeps her from remembering specifics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,275 Posted March 1, 2024 20 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: So she never said her dad molested her. Thanks for proving HT a lying piece of disgusting shite Exposure of genitalia is molestation. I win, you lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,438 Posted March 1, 2024 Ruling: HT Wins! US Law Institute: Quote Molestation is the crime of engaging in sexual acts with minors, including touching of private parts, exposure of genitalia, taking of pornographic pictures, rape, inducement of sexual acts with the molester or with other children, and variations of these acts. Boy that puts a real damper on Gutterboy's weekend plans. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,333 Posted March 1, 2024 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Exposure of genitalia is molestation. I win, you lose. She never said she was molested. Give it up creeper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,275 Posted March 1, 2024 9 minutes ago, Horseman said: Ruling: HT Wins! US Law Institute: Boy that puts a real damper on Gutterboy's weekend plans. Victory is mine. Again. The good part about Gutterboy sticking with his alias is I won’t have to read him saying stupid, inaccurate things about my NY Giants. His outlook last year was ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,333 Posted March 1, 2024 You two goons are hilarious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,121 Posted March 1, 2024 42 minutes ago, Horseman said: It's a fair question when every bit of evidence that's self incriminating for him he played the addict card. Including the "my father is sitting next to me right now". Drugged out and can't remember things like that calls into question the possibility of taking bribes when employed by Burisma who was under investigation for doing just that. Either you're a high functioning addict or you're not. Can't have it both ways. Should be easy to prove. I’d think they’d be able to catch a drug addict. This investigation has been going on for years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,198 Posted March 1, 2024 1 hour ago, Horseman said: I think it's accurate to say the vast majority of money that made it's way into Hunter's business accounts happened in 2017. It appears that most of the money before that went into Devin Archer's account (who is about to spend time in prison). Then he would do things like you know, wire money to a car dealership in the exact amount of $142,300 to pay for a Porsche that Hunter would pick up the next day. The day prior at a dinner for "Work Food Program" it happened to be Hunter's birthday. Yelena Baurina (who just gave Devin 3.5 million dollars) was there, so was Kenes Rakishev and of course Devin Archer. The only reason Joe Biden attended the dinner was to say hi to everyone because it was Hunter's birthday. It doesn't count as a meeting with Hunter's business partners while being the Vice President of the United State. Remember when it was just phone calls on speaker at the dinners? Again in 2014 Joe Biden is at another "World Food Program" attended by board of directors of Burisma including Vadym Pozharsky shortly after they hired Hunter on approx 1 million dollar salary. Joe, he had a coke, spaghetti, said hi and left. That's it. So yeah, it might be hard to really tie money going directly to Joe, but we already know his influence got Hunter that job. At first it was no knowledge, never met any of Hunter's business partners. Never even talked about it. Now it turns out that Joe has met a bunch of them, but, they just met a dinners and functions. Not a business meeting. "Met" not a "meeting". 1 hour ago, Horseman said: It's a fair question when every bit of evidence that's self incriminating for him he played the addict card. Including the "my father is sitting next to me right now". Drugged out and can't remember things like that calls into question the possibility of taking bribes when employed by Burisma who was under investigation for doing just that. Either you're a high functioning addict or you're not. Can't have it both ways. First 2 bolded: You say 2017 but also when Joe was VP. Which was it? Or are there other events that DID occur before 2017? Of course that's why Hunter got the job. Doubt many dispute that. It's unflattering, unethical, and untoward of course, but not illegal. And many high functioning addicts do go on jags when they have periods of time when their consumption is particularly heavy and they're more prone to bad choices or fail to recall events. Like the Trump NY fraud case, I think this investigation is politically motivated. But if it shows that crimes were committed, prosecution and consequences must occur. If Joe accepted gifts for favors while VP, then impeach, indict, imprison him. I just don't see enough evidence here to prove beyond reasonable doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,275 Posted March 1, 2024 I like the one how Joe , while eating with Hunters business “partners”, had a bowl of spaghetti. No one orders spaghetti at a nice restaurant. GTFO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,438 Posted March 1, 2024 18 minutes ago, Fnord said: First 2 bolded: You say 2017 but also when Joe was VP. Which was it? Or are there other events that DID occur before 2017? Of course that's why Hunter got the job. Doubt many dispute that. It's unflattering, unethical, and untoward of course, but not illegal. And many high functioning addicts do go on jags when they have periods of time when their consumption is particularly heavy and they're more prone to bad choices or fail to recall events. Like the Trump NY fraud case, I think this investigation is politically motivated. But if it shows that crimes were committed, prosecution and consequences must occur. If Joe accepted gifts for favors while VP, then impeach, indict, imprison him. I just don't see enough evidence here to prove beyond reasonable doubt. The second, third and fourth paragraphs all happened in 2014. By my quick count the large sums of money didn't go into Hunter's shell companies until 2017, they went through Devin Archer's. Except for his Burisma salary of course. I agree it's going to be hard to prove Joe himself benefitted (it's clear the rest of the family did), but if you look at the last couple of impeachments the bar isn't very high. One thing is for sure, all these people are playing games for profit and anyone that thinks Joe is an innocent bystander is an idiot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,198 Posted March 1, 2024 1 minute ago, Horseman said: The second, third and fourth paragraphs all happened in 2014. By my quick count the large sums of money didn't go into Hunter's shell companies until 2017, they went through Devin Archer's. Except for his Burisma salary of course. I agree it's going to be hard to prove Joe himself benefitted, but if you look at the last couple of impeachments the bar isn't very high. One thing is for sure, all these people are playing games for profit and anyone that thinks Joe is an innocent bystander is an idiot. Once an individual gets to that level of power and influence, I'd wager only a tiny percentage remain "clean." We'll agree to disagree on your impeachment comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,275 Posted March 1, 2024 Joe got the prosecutor in Ukraine fired in the waning days of his tenure as VP. He did that on his own, the state department had cleared the money to be released due to Ukraine fulfilling the anti corruption stipulations called for in the agreement. I’d love to see Obama questioned on that. Under oath. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,438 Posted March 1, 2024 I dunno though. I guess I'm more paranoid than someone who has gotten away with it their entire lives. I'd be worried that someone finds Tony Bobulinski's phone. Or more details leak out of what and who were at the meetings in China. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted March 1, 2024 27 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Joe got the prosecutor in Ukraine fired in the waning days of his tenure as VP. He did that on his own, the state department had cleared the money to be released due to Ukraine fulfilling the anti corruption stipulations called for in the agreement. I’d love to see Obama questioned on that. Under oath. Yes of course. Joe just grabbed AF2 and flew over to Ukraine against America's wishes to get a foreign prosecutor fired simply to save his son. And no one said boo back home. That makes tons of sense... LOLOLOLOLOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,275 Posted March 1, 2024 7 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Yes of course. Joe just grabbed AF2 and flew over to Ukraine against America's wishes to get a foreign prosecutor fired simply to save his son. And no one said boo back home. That makes tons of sense... LOLOLOLOLOL Nailed it. Good job! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted March 1, 2024 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Nailed it. Good job! "Hey Obama, Ima gonna jump in AF2, fly over to Ukraine, and get that meddling prosecutor fired. Now you don't say a word about it or I'll release your african birth certificate, show your Muslim religious credentials, and out Big Mike" That about how it went down in your mind boyo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,275 Posted March 1, 2024 5 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: "Hey Obama, Ima gonna jump in AF2, fly over to Ukraine, and get that meddling prosecutor fired. Now you don't say a word about it or I'll release your african birth certificate, show your Muslim religious credentials, and out Big Mike" That about how it went down in your mind boyo? Not the blackmail part. But the rest is pretty accurate. Are you saying he didn’t go there to do that? It just came up? Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted March 1, 2024 40 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Not the blackmail part. But the rest is pretty accurate. Are you saying he didn’t go there to do that? It just came up? Lol. Are you saying he was on personal business? LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,275 Posted March 2, 2024 24 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Are you saying he was on personal business? LOL I’m saying he went there to make sure it happened. Again, you think he didn’t go there to do this? Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites