easilyscan 912 Posted December 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Baker Boy said: But you will ride with an impaired driver or maybe you drive impaired yourself. The figures could've changed since then (better or worse) but approximately 4 years ago, the DOT in my state released data pertaining to accidents with injuries. Distracted drivers caused 4 times (400%) more accidents with injuries than drunk/impaired drivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Melon 618 Posted December 14, 2023 2 hours ago, HellToupee said: The thing is if you are using autopilot you’re in control. It’s the idiots Fn around and not paying attention. I’m more afraid of someone dicking. around with their phones while driving than autopilot Fair point about distracted drivers, but personally, I don't even use cruise control. If I'm in the driver's seat, my hands are on the focking wheel, and my feet are at the pedals. That's never gonna change for me 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,525 Posted December 14, 2023 13 hours ago, Patented Phil said: I don’t get this line of thinking. What if cars driven by humans are 85% safe? Why wouldn’t the driverless car threshold be 86% instead of 99%? Are you an AI bigot? Pretty simple really. If the cars driven by humans are 85% safe, then 15% of the time, the problem is the human... yes? If driverless cars are 86% safe, then 14% of the time... who's the problem? If the problem is the AI, why should the human be held accountable? If the human isn't, then who is? The car manufacturer? If not, who? Anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,525 Posted December 14, 2023 17 hours ago, thegeneral said: This is why they are doing these updates. To make people have to be more alert and less reliant on the self drive through various alerts and stuff the driver is forced to do every so often. This is much ado about nothing IMO. Never said it was anything, just giving my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted December 14, 2023 13 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So a nothing burger. It’s sad what excites Worms and the other libtards. Just a case of EDS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,275 Posted December 14, 2023 Just now, Reality said: Just a case of EDS. Elon took their control away. But I still don’t understand why a bunch of worker bee’s care so much. Don’t use it. Simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted December 14, 2023 2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: Pretty simple really. If the cars driven by humans are 85% safe, then 15% of the time, the problem is the human... yes? If driverless cars are 86% safe, then 14% of the time... who's the problem? If the problem is the AI, why should the human be held accountable? If the human isn't, then who is? The car manufacturer? If not, who? Anyone? Would seem to be the manufacturer but that is endless liability. I suppose it wouldn’t be hard to tweak the insurance system though where maybe you have to have insurance but name the manufacturer as an additional insured? Or something along those lines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,275 Posted December 14, 2023 Driving today I have seen a bunch of Teslas on the road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted December 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Driving today I have seen a bunch of Teslas on the road. That’s cool, what other makes and models did you see? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,275 Posted December 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: That’s cool, what other makes and models did you see? Saw a Prius with an I’m with her and a co-exist bumper sticker. Was that you? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,716 Posted December 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Saw a Prius with an I’m with her and a co-exist bumper sticker. Was that you? I think you missed the Nevertheless She Persisted bumper sticker as you drove by Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted December 14, 2023 2 million vehicles. even if it's 100K per car. 200 billion? Pocket change Muskie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,167 Posted December 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: That’s cool, what other makes and models did you see? lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,525 Posted December 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Would seem to be the manufacturer but that is endless liability. I suppose it wouldn’t be hard to tweak the insurance system though where maybe you have to have insurance but name the manufacturer as an additional insured? Or something along those lines Right, it would point to the manufacturer as the guilty party. What are the odds that the government will force the manufacturer be the party at fault? I'm going with 1 in a billion chance... you? So, if the consumer is the one that's responsible, then the manufacturer shouldn't be allowed to put it on the market without almost a 100% reliability factor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,121 Posted December 14, 2023 Weird takes abound in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites