Jan 6, 2021

[Hardcore troubadour 14,926]

Just now, Dozer FBG said:

Sounds like you’re ready to forgive and forget an attempted insurrection.

 Is there such a thing? It would seem you could charge a lot of people with that. Like everyone that ever took over a court house or firebombed one. 

[Dozer FBG 324]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

meanwhile Patrice Cullors is out free

Had to google her.

Sounds like a fraudster. Would make an interesting thread if you’d care to start one.

[Dozer FBG 324]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 Is there such a thing? It would seem you could charge a lot of people with that. Like everyone that ever took over a court house or firebombed one. 

I don’t believe there is a crime called “insurrection.” I think Seditious Conspiracy is the closest, but I don’t know for sure.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

1 minute ago, Dozer FBG said:

Had to google her.

Sounds like a fraudster. Would make an interesting thread if you’d care to start one.

 

right cause shes not covered on MSNBC or WAPO

 

where I was going with is she is the "founder" of BLM and scammed millions of people into starting vicious riots resulting in 30+ deaths in the mostly peaceful summer of 2020.  Yet nothing 

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1 minute ago, Dozer FBG said:

I don’t believe there is a crime called “insurrection.” I think Seditious Conspiracy is the closest, but I don’t know for sure.

Insurrection act of 1807. 

[squistion 1,947]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

right cause shes not covered on MSNBC or WAPO

where I was going with is she is the "founder" of BLM and scammed millions of people into starting vicious riots resulting in 30+ deaths in the mostly peaceful summer of 2020.  Yet nothing 

I don't believe that she, herself, incited any riots, nor encouraged anyone to riot. And BLM didn't do that either, they just organized what were supposed to be peaceful protest marches and were not responsible for the violence committed after the protests ended and the protesters had gone home for the day. 

[Dozer FBG 324]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Insurrection act of 1807. 

Wiki

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

I don't believe that she, herself, incited any riots, nor encouraged anyone to riot. And BLM didn't do that either, they just organized what were supposed to be peaceful protest marches and were not responsible for the violence committed after the protests ended and the protesters had gone home for the day. 

right the B team showed up.  and the capitol protest was supposed to be peaceful too

 

[squistion 1,947]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Insurrection act of 1807. 

It is a crime on the books, but the way it is written it is almost to prove, so instead the charge is sedition or conspiracy to commit sedition. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,926]

1 minute ago, Dozer FBG said:

Wiki

Yeah. To stop insurrection, which is a crime. What else would they be stopping? 2+2= 4.  

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah. To stop insurrection, which is a crime. What else would they be stopping? 2+2= 4.  

It appears that you posted a law that gives the President certain authority to suppress an insurrection… An interesting topic, for sure.

But I was questioning this that you said:

“You know, in order to be charged with insurrection there has to be a reasonable belief that the alleged insurrectionists can actually pull it off.”

So, I don’t know if the cops can show up at your house with a warrant for “Insurrection.”

Again, there may be such a law…

[Dozer FBG 324]

From FindLaw:

Rebellion or Insurrection
 

The United States became a nation in an act of rebellion against the British Crown. After winning the Revolutionary War, it passed its own law prohibiting rebellion or insurrection. Although the law is rarely invoked, it carries serious penalties. The following article provides an overview of the federal crime of rebellion and insurrection and how it differs from sedition and treason.

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Insurrection: An act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government.

This distinguishes the crime from sedition, which is the organized incitement to rebellion or civil disorder against the authority of the state.

It also separates the crime from treason, which is the violation of allegiance owed to one's country by betrayal or acting to aid the country's enemies.

 

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2 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

 treason, which is the violation of allegiance owed to one's country by betrayal or acting to aid the country's enemies.

Like when a POTUS, who swore an oath to defend the US against enemies foreign and domestic, refuses to act when the US Capitol building is under siege? I'm no lawyer, but in my mind that's what Trump is guilty of.

[Dozer FBG 324]

I believe this is the only federal law that says insurrection specifically:

18 U.S.C. § 2383 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 18. Crimes and Criminal Procedure § 2383. Rebellion or insurrection
 

-Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both;  and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.-
 

That’s the law in its entirety.

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6 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Like when a POTUS, who swore an oath to defend the US against enemies foreign and domestic, refuses to act when the US Capitol building is under siege? I'm no lawyer, but in my mind that's what Trump is guilty of.

Yep,  Jack has him dead to rights in both the J6 and the docs case.  The docs case won't happen before the election but I'll bet the J6 case will.  Maybe right before the election but that will be enough to show just how Trump was completely derelict in his duty and concerned about nothing but himself as usual while being at the center of trying to steal the election. 

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1 minute ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Yep,  Jack has him dead to rights in both the J6 and the docs case.  The docs case won't happen before the election but I'll bet the J6 case will.  Maybe right before the election but that will be enough to show just how Trump was completely derelict in his duty and concerned about nothing but himself as usual while being at the center of trying to steal the election. 

The J6 committee already showed this to be the case beyond reasonable doubt. Of course the MAGAMOOKS refuse to watch or believe it, but enough of the electorate that's somehow still on the fence will realize the stupidity of voting for him to turn the tide. I hope.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,926]

5 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Yep,  Jack has him dead to rights in both the J6 and the docs case.  The docs case won't happen before the election but I'll bet the J6 case will.  Maybe right before the election but that will be enough to show just how Trump was completely derelict in his duty and concerned about nothing but himself as usual while being at the center of trying to steal the election. 

Ass rot got the boot again.  Lol 

[jonmx 2,424]

5 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Yep,  Jack has him dead to rights in both the J6 and the docs case.  The docs case won't happen before the election but I'll bet the J6 case will.  Maybe right before the election but that will be enough to show just how Trump was completely derelict in his duty and concerned about nothing but himself as usual while being at the center of trying to steal the election. 

Lol...good luck with that.   Jack's cases aren't going nowhere

[Hardcore troubadour 14,926]

Just now, jonmx said:

Lol...good luck with that.   Jack's cases aren't going nowhere

Jack got overturned 9-0 by scotus last time he attempted his overtly political prosecution.  Why would you ever sign this guy on after that? He should be doing whatever lawerly things Worms does. This is out of his league. 

[jonmx 2,424]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

The J6 committee already showed this to be the case beyond reasonable doubt. Of course the MAGAMOOKS refuse to watch or believe it, but enough of the electorate that's somehow still on the fence will realize the stupidity of voting for him to turn the tide. I hope.

The illegimate J6 committee?   Everyone on the panel was a rabid Trumo hater with their heads up their butt.  You guys are SOL if you are hoping to stop Trump with these crappy legal cases.   Just making Trump stronger and Democrats look like the pathetic bastards they are. 

[The Real timschochet 6,410]

11 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Lol...good luck with that.   Jack's cases aren't going nowhere

I will wager you $1000 right now that Jack’s Jan 6 case against Donald Trump will be tried prior to this years election and Trump will be found guilty and convicted of at least one felony. Deal? 

[BeachGuy23 642]

13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Jack got overturned 9-0 by scotus last time he attempted his overtly political prosecution.  Why would you ever sign this guy on after that? He should be doing whatever lawerly things Worms does. This is out of his league. 

lol

Love when you comment on chit you know zero about.  Like if a question comes up about the best way to beat up suspects, or meter maid, then you can answer.   Until then how about you clam up friend. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,926]

Just now, BeachGuy23 said:

lol

Love when you comment on chit you know zero about.  Like if a question comes up about the best way to beat up suspects, or meter maids, then you can answer.   Until then how about you clam up friend. 

Oh, so he wasn’t overturned 9-0 by scotus? Stfu Boyo.  

[BeachGuy23 642]

15 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Lol...good luck with that.   Jack's cases aren't going nowhere

You're right.  The Feds record for indictment wins is terrible.

My bad.  I should have come to you, the most unstable, CT believing, low information, bootlicking peron on the board.

Good luck friend. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,926]

1 minute ago, BeachGuy23 said:

You're right.  The Feds record for indictment wins is terrible.

My bad.  I should have come to you, the most unstable, CT believing, low information, bootlicking peron on the board.

Good luck friend. 

Somehow smith got shut down 9-0 by SCOTUS. Lol. 

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Somehow smith got shut down 9-0 by SCOTUS. Lol. 

OH NOES!

Aware me what case he brought before SCOTUS that he lost 9-0?  Cause if you're talking about asking the SCOTUS to bypass the appeals court and make a ruling, you my friend as usual are showing your ignorance.

Are you in a group home?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,926]

2 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

OH NOES!

Aware me what case he brought before SCOTUS that he lost 9-0?  Cause if you're talking about asking the SCOTUS to bypass the appeals court and make a ruling, you my friend as usual are showing your ignorance.

Are you in a group home?

His case was thrown out by SCOTUS on appeal, 9-0. When did I say he brought  a case before them? He sucks, would never happen. SCOTUS shut his weak shitt down, unanimously. You dope. 

[BeachGuy23 642]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

His case was thrown out by SCOTUS on appeal, 9-0. When did I say he brought  a case before them? He sucks, would never happen. SCOTUS shut his weak shitt down, unanimously. You dope. 

What case was that friend.  And no need to get angry.

Is your group home late for dinner?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,926]

3 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

What case was that friend.  And no need to get angry.

Is your group home late for dinner?

Look it up. And I can wipe my own ass. 

[jonmx 2,424]

13 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

You're right.  The Feds record for indictment wins is terrible.

My bad.  I should have come to you, the most unstable, CT believing, low information, bootlicking peron on the board.

Good luck friend. 

Exactly what record are you talking about?  The big 'wins' that Jack has are getting some useless plea deals with no jail time and nothing in their permanent record.   The deals were for headlines so idiots could jizz their pants over. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,926]

4 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

What case was that friend.  And no need to get angry.

Is your group home late for dinner?

This clown.  Running his mouth about Smith, referring to him as “jack” like he knows him or at least knows about him, doesn’t know about one of the biggest humiliations a federal prosecutor can possibly suffer.  As if it’s not very rare. What a dope.

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, jonmx said:

Exactly what record are you talking about?  The big 'wins' that Jack has are getting some useless plea deals with no jail time and nothing in their permanent record.   The deals were for headlines so idiots could jazz their pants over. 

So Trump's goons flipping on him and testifying against him is nothing?

Got it friend.  It's always good when a mob bosses goons flip on him.

 

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

This clown.  Running his mouth about Smith, referring to him as “jack” like he knows him or at least knows about him, doesn’t know about one of the biggest humiliations a federal prosecutor can possibly suffer.  As if it’s not very rare. What a dope.

You think the SCOTUS doesn't overturn cases often?

And don't you refer to another man, not your father, as father?

hahahahahahaha

Come on group home dinner!

[jonmx 2,424]

8 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

So Trump's goons flipping on him and testifying against him is nothing?

Got it friend.  It's always good when a mob bosses goons flip on him.

 

Yes, Jack is a retard.  The deal was, Jack basically drops all the charges so they will testify honestly.  Testifying truthfully is their legal requirement without a deal.  Jack won nothing. 

[BeachGuy23 642]

8 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Yes, Jack is a retard.  The deal was, Jack basically drops all the charges so they will testify honestly.  Testifying truthfully is their legal requirement without a deal.  Jack won nothing. 

Uh, you never heard of pleading the 5th?

Weird because the "Father" you worship so is intimately familiar with pleading the fifth friend.

Your knowledge of law is equal to your bootlicking subserviance to a moron conman.

Still time to change your life friend. 

[thegeneral 2,896]

38 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

50 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Lol...good luck with that.   Jack's cases aren't going nowhere

I will wager you $1000 right now that Jack’s Jan 6 case against Donald Trump will be tried prior to this years election and Trump will be found guilty and convicted of at least one felony. Deal? 

[squistion 1,947]

13 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Yes, Jack is a retard.  The deal was, Jack basically drops all the charges so they will testify honestly.  Testifying truthfully is their legal requirement without a deal.  Jack won nothing. 

But they could take the 5th right, and not testify?

[jonmx 2,424]

27 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Uh, you never heard of pleading the 5th?

Weird because the "Father" you worship so is intimately familiar with pleading the fifth friend.

Your knowledge of law is equal to your bootlicking subserviance to a moron conman.

Still time to change your life friend. 

A prosecutor has all kinds of methods to compel testimony.   Basically all Jack did was provide immunity, but dressed it up like he got a conviction to fool you clueless morons. 

[The Real timschochet 6,410]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I will wager you $1000 right now that Jack’s Jan 6 case against Donald Trump will be tried prior to this years election and Trump will be found guilty and convicted of at least one felony. Deal? 

Bump

[jonmx 2,424]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Bump

I am not betting $1000.  Maybe a lower amount, but the terms need to be laid out and include appeals.